For the Christian, Atheist, Muslim and what ever you practice.
Is it right under any circumstance to take the life of a human being?
Are there any scenarios where you think it is justified to kill someone?
—Article 6.1 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights state that:
“ Every human being has the inherent right to life. This right shall be protected by law. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his life. ”
The scenarios are very many from abortion, to taking someone off  life support, do I have the right to take my own life, and so on.

So I am asking is there a right time to murder and why or why not?

Self defence.

Chrisbenogor:

For the Christian, Atheist, Muslim and what ever you practice.
Is it right under any circumstance to take the life of a human being?
Are there any scenarios where you think it is justified to kill someone?
—Article 6.1 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights state that:
“ Every human being has the inherent right to life. This right shall be protected by law. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his life. ”
The scenarios are very many from abortion, to taking someone off  life support, do I have the right to take my own life, and so on.

So I am asking is there a right time to murder and why or why not?

This is something I've thought about too, even self defence, I sometimes imagine myself killing someone but what has to be done has to be done, I guess.

I don't think there is a right time to murder but for those murderers and serial killers, I think that's only when it is justifiable to do so and somehow self defence, all others I don't think so.

stillwater:

Self defence.

Does that take away that life is sacred for you ( I am guessing that you are a christian now)? I mean do you have to really kill someone to defend yourself? Would you go for a taser or a shot gun?

Diva1:


This is something I've thought about too, even self defence, I sometimes imagine myself killing someone but what has to be done has to be done, I guess.

I don't think there is a right time to murder but for those murderers and serial killers, I think that's only when it is justifiable to do so and somehow self defence, all others I don't think so.

Hello Diva,
Do you think the killing them punishes the individual or the people who loves the person?

Chrisbenogor:

Hello Diva,
Do you think the killing them punishes the individual or the people who loves the person?

Hey Chris
I wouldn't necessarily say punishing the individual because he/she is already gone and dead but at least, it helps reduce people that commit such atrocious crime. I heard like here in the US, some people commit crimes just to be in jail because, they eat well even better than outside, safety and all. A man might want to commit a crime and knows if he gets caught, he could be dead so that might help change his mind. In all, I feel it is justified.

Everyone alive has a right to life and to protect my own rights i'll gladly off the SOB who tries to kill me.

Tudór:

Everyone alive has a right to life and to protect my own rights i'll gladly off the SOB who tries to kill me.

ha ha

Tudór:

Everyone alive has a right to life and to protect my own rights i'll gladly off the SOB who tries to kill me.

LOL my guy my guy
You know you cannot get off that easily with me na 
The question is do you have to kill someone in self defence, I mean defend yourself with the intention to kill?

Chrisbenogor:

LOL my guy my guy
You know you cannot get off that easily with me na 
The question is do you have to kill someone in self defence, I mean defend yourself with the intention to kill?

Most times someone that kills in self defence isn't premeditated. It just happens while trying to defend his/her self. The one I hate is when there is an opportunity to escape and have actually escaped, but come back to kill, calling it self defence, that I do not like.

Chrisbenogor:

LOL my guy my guy
You know you cannot get off that easily with me na 
The question is do you have to kill someone in self defence, I mean defend yourself with the intention to kill?

he he he. . . . .
I advocate that you defend yourself with an "open mind" not necessarily with intent to kill. Initially you should be willing to neutralise the threat, if you're lucky and youz stronger than the 'muhajadeen' or have got say a taser or pepper spray somewhere, you can at least try alittle damage control. However when the felon is obviously stronger than you and you're in a kinda weak spot, animalistic instincts kick in and you'd do all in thy power to survive even KILL.

Tudór:

he he he. . . . .
I advocate that you defend yourself with an "open mind" not necessarily with intent to kill. Initially you should be willing to neutralise the threat, if you're lucky and youz stronger than the 'muhajadeen' or have got say a taser or pepper spray somewhere, you can at least try alittle damage control. However when the felon is obviously stronger than you and you're in a kinda weak spot, animalistic instincts kick in and you'd do all in thy power to survive even KILL.

Point taken

what about the death penalty? for or against?

Krayola2:

what about the death penalty? for or against?

The truth is I do not really know both sides have good arguments. You?

Is it right to murder ? depends on WHY someone's being murdered.

These days, we seem to be able to rationalize any and everything,

I think a basic definition is in order: Murder - the crime of unlawfully killing a person[b] especially with malice aforethought[/b]

  I will have zero problem killing in self-defense or in the defense of another who is in trouble. Morals do not have much to do with it imho, its a matter of cause, effect and prevention.

If you don't have to kill to defend yourself, then the morality of killing in self-defense is questionable.
I would rather have people armed with shields, tasers, stun guns and pepper sprays for self-defense.

@ Seun, do you still attend Foursquare in Sango ?

Chrisbenogor:

Does that take away that life is sacred for you ( I am guessing that you are a christian now)? I mean do you have to really kill someone to defend yourself? Would you go for a taser or a shot gun?

It's really not that easy to kill. The point is to do everything possible to escape if ever I encounter an attacker. If he gets killed in the process, well . . . I can only say it's not my fault. It doesn't make life look less to me either because I protected myself.

stillwater:

It's really not that easy to kill. The point is to do everything possible to escape if ever I encounter an attacker. If he gets killed in the process, well . . . I can only say it's not my fault. It doesn't make life look less to me either because I protected myself.

Very sensible.

Take a look at this scenario:

You bump into a terrorist in an enclosed room who's about to blow up an entire stadium on the night of a UEFA Champions League Final (assuming the bomb has THAT capability).  You are the only one that knows about this, and NOTHING you say/preach to him will change anything, his mind's made up.  There's a loaded AK47 lying somewhere on the floor.  You have the chance to pick it up and blow his brains off, saving thousands of lives, or you have the chance to walk away because "you don't want to kill" (but of course you'll also die when he detonates).  Which option will you pick?

Purist:

Take a look at this scenario:

You bump into a terrorist in an enclosed room who's about to blow up an entire stadium on the night of a UEFA Champions League Final (assuming the bomb has THAT capability). You are the only one that knows about this, and NOTHING you say/preach to him will change anything, his mind's made up. There's a loaded AK47 lying somewhere on the floor. You have the chance to pick it up and blow his brains off, saving thousands of lives, or you have the chance to walk away because "you don't want to kill" (but of course you'll also die when he detonates). Which option will you pick?

Very easy. I will send him a few minutes early to go and collect his 72 virgins .

[size=13pt]What then are we. . .?,If really as claimed"written" in the Bible (Jesus Christ )-died for the sin's of the world it simply mean's we are all Murderer's unknowingly,peherp's i didn't  set my eye's  on the Guy,i didn't see him until his death,but i stumble across some people telling so many stories upon stories about him,i was wondering about the stories  because that time i have not yet read the Bible not until i read it,i study this book and my brain never lie in proper understanding.
  It is Written Jesus died for the sake of me and you,and this mean's we as human being are"Born to Kill" even when we are inside womb,but if the reason of starting this thread is simply because you get bored or worried whenever you murder someone"Human being"-im encourageing you to keep killing people each day,dont worry anymore because you didn't start it all,keep on killing and take it as Fun,but in secret.
I Dont love sharing in this kind of thread because i know some people would not appriciate my pieces of advice,im only a professional"WORLD CHANGER"- and if really you show great interest in becoming like me do feel free to be Original today.

YES,WE ARE ALL MURDERER'S. . .HUMAN ARE THE DISEASE OF THIS WORLD THAT KILL'S WITHOUT NO CARE***
 
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My opinion is that murder is a last resort in any pressing circumstance.

When defending yourself (& family) it is better to cripple the enemy than kill him. Killing is a tool of Satan. That's my opinion.

I think that even atheists will agree with me on this.

Muslims, Wait, what are they even doing in this forum?

Ugly spirit of murder looming around. BAD and Forbiden SPIRIT. Very infectious when discussed. Seun, your recommendation for self defence was quite right towards avoiding murder. Reject the morality of murder(the influence). Yes! You can.

In cases of self defence, I always use my in-spirit energy and wisdom to control the mind(thoughts) of any rival whatsoever without drawing out a sword. I found it 100% safe.
Wisdom is profitable to direct.

In cases of self defence, I always use my in-spirit energy and wisdom to control the mind(thoughts) of any rival whatsoever without drawing out a sword. I found it 100% safe.
Wisdom is profitable to direct.

What about for retribution? Is it ok to kill a murderer? why not just lock them up?

Killing murderers is wrong!

hubreality:

In cases of self defence, I always use my in-spirit energy and wisdom to control the mind(thoughts) of any rival whatsoever without drawing out a sword. I found it 100% safe.
Wisdom is profitable to direct.

If this is your plan for self defence then sorry you aint got much time to live. . .

hubreality:

In cases of self defence, I always use my in-spirit energy and wisdom to control the mind(thoughts) of any rival whatsoever without drawing out a sword. I found it 100% safe.
Wisdom is profitable to direct.

If this is your plan for self defence then sorry you aint got much time to live. . .

The Spirit will always rule and dominate the physical. Too Big for the religious and scientific minds. If you actually dwell and walk in Love, you'll be guided and protected 24/7 by the same Spirit. It carries in it the ability to always ensure that you walk and dwell in the path of peace. I mean it, there won't be any call or reason to draw a sword or pull a triger.