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Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by scully95: 7:33pm On Jun 06, 2016
These rebel forces, american zionist moderate terrorists get mind oh.. see what they firing into syrian arab army positions backed by almighty airforce super power in aleppo.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzSJWEIB-ck

Russia Prepares to Bomb the Rebels in Aleppo Again: As the rebels launch an offensive, truce around Aleppo approaches collapse

by Alexander Mercouris for The Duran

Evidence is mounting that the Russians are cranking up to resume large scale bombing in and around the Syrian city of Aleppo.

The background is an agreement which was concluded by the US and the Russians in February. This called for a “cessation of hostilities” between the various Syrian factions in return for which Russia’s bombing campaign in Syria was to be scaled down.

The “cessation of hostilities” was not a ceasefire and was not intended to be. This was because the two biggest groups fighting the Syrian government – Daesh (“the Islamic State”, also sometimes called ISIS) and Al-Qaeda’s local Syrian franchise – Jabhat Al-Nusra – were expressly excluded from it. The UN Security Council previously declared both organisations terrorist organisations and neither were parties to the “cessation of hostilities” agreement. In fact both denounced it.

A fundamental part of the “cessation of hostilities” agreement was that the US would persuade the various groups it supports in Syria – the so-called “moderates” who form the so-called “Free Syrian Army” – to separate their fighters from these two terrorist groups.

The reason the Russians are now cranking up to resume their bombing in and around Aleppo is because the separation of so-called “moderate fighters” from those of Daesh and Jabhat Al-Nusra in and around Aleppo has never happened. On the contrary the fighters of the various Syrian groups remain intermingled with each other and continue to fight alongside each other.

As for the US, there is little or no evidence that it has ever made any serious attempt to persuade the so-called “moderate fighters” it supports to separate themselves from Daesh or Jabhat Al-Nusra. On the contrary the whole weight of the US’s diplomatic activity over the last few weeks has been to dissuade the Russians from bombing Jabhat Al-Nusra from in and around Aleppo on the grounds that this might hit the so-called “moderate fighters”.

To understand how extraordinary that demand is, just consider that the US has never in all the air campaigns it has waged in the Middle East – whether against the Taliban in Afghanistan or in Iraq or in Libya or Syria – ever sought to distinguish between “militants” and “moderates”.

When the US bombed Afghanistan in 2001 in the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks its stance was totally straightforward – it bombed the Taliban everywhere and anywhere it could without making any distinction between its supposed militant and moderate factions. It was left to anyone who wanted to avoid getting bombed to get out of the way. This despite the fact that such different factions within the Taliban – actually a loose coalition of different groups – are known to have existed, and despite the fact that Al-Qaeda (the nominal target of the whole campaign) and the Taliban were distinct organisations. The mere fact the Taliban and Al-Qaeda were physically connected with each other sufficed for the US to bomb them both.

The fact the US has been pressuring the Russians to desist from bombing Jabhat Al-Nusra – ie. Al-Qaeda in Syria – has been barely reported in the West or in the US. If the families of the victims of the 9/11 attacks – or indeed the US soldiers who fought against the Taliban and Al-Qaeda in Iraq and Afghanistan and their families – were ever to learn that in Syria the US is protecting Al-Qaeda they would surely feel betrayed.

A series of complaints and messages from Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov suggests that the Russians are now close to having enough. Lavrov has made clear that the Russians consider the US in breach of the “cessation of hostilities” agreement the Russians and the US concluded with each other in February.

The Russians also see what is in fact obvious, that Jabhat Al-Nusra make use of any cessation of the bombing to re-equip and redeploy and to launch new attacks against Syrian army positions. Moreover when they do so the US’s so-called “moderate fighters” enthusiastically cooperate with them. A short while ago fighters from Jabhat Al-Nusra in cooperation with fighters of one of the so-called “moderate” groups together stormed an Alawite village and jointly massacred 19 of its civilian inhabitants including children and old people.

Here it is necessary to say something about the true situation in Syria. This is that the so-called “moderate forces” the US and the Western media constantly talk about quite simply don’t exist.

The collapse of the government’s authority over much of Syria meant that various village militias set themselves up to fill the void in different parts of the country. Some of them have claimed to be affiliated with the “Free Syrian Army” in order to get access to Western supplies, and many of them get lumped together by the US as if they were a coherent united fighting force. These militias are however focused on their own districts and are not seriously involved in the war.

As our writer Afra’a Dagher – who is an actual Syrian journalist based in Syria – has written, those fighters who are actually rebels – that is those fighters who actually fight the Syrian army and who seek to overthrow the Syrian government – call themselves at various times by different names but in reality are simply one and the same people.

In order to attract fighters, arms supplies and donations from the Gulf and elsewhere, they say they are Daesh or – if they are fighting around Aleppo – Jabhat Al-Nusra, or by any of various other colourful names that jihadi extremist groups in Syria like to use when it suits them. When they want to prevent the Russian air force bombing them, or when they need to get diplomatic support from the US or from Turkey or the West, they pretend to be “moderates” and call themselves the “Free Syrian Army”.

As Russia’s President Putin himself said in his recent speech to the UN General Assembly, “these people are cruel but they are not dumb”.

Both the US and the Russians know all this perfectly well. Both have for different reasons engaged in the fiction that there are “moderate fighters” in Syria who can be distinguished from the armed jihadis. The US does this because its priority is the overthrow of the Syrian government, not the defeat of violent jihadism in Syria. The Russians do it because they have always sought a diplomatic solution to the Syrian conflict, which would involve the Syrian rebels’ keep supporters – Saudi Arabia and the US – which they see as the only way to secure an end to the war.

News of a major rebel offensive against Aleppo’s Kurdish districts over the last few days has however brought Russian patience to breaking point. Diplomatic engagement with the US having failed to prevent this offensive, the Russians are all but saying that bombing is about to resume.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by Flexherbal(m): 7:56pm On Jun 06, 2016
The world is becoming very tough for humans.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by ValerianSteel(m): 8:36pm On Jun 06, 2016
Russia would fail propping up Assad.Its only a matter of time.Eventually Assad would be removed either forcefully or legitimately as that's the only option supported by other World powers,the United States and even the Syrian people.

The United States has taken out top leaders in ISIS and Russia is busy playing ping pong with Moderate rebels,we've seen the effects of that with ISIS murdering even its own members as alleged spies feeding information to US led coalition.They won't have Assad for long and the incoming government which will definitely come from withing the rebel stronghold will give Russia a black eye starting with a shut down of all Russia Naval facility.

Russia can continue attacking the rebels and killing more innocent lives along the line but assuredly they will be isolated from the Syrian roundtables by which time removing Assad would be inevitable for the world to say No.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by Appleyard(m): 8:43pm On Jun 06, 2016
It is only an uninform person that will believe the crap called ''moderate'' rebels. There are no moderate in Syria. They are all terrorist and the Russians should weed them out. The only painful thing in all these is that, civilians are the ones mostly caught up in the mirage. I just pray this whole thing end soon.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by begod: 9:23pm On Jun 06, 2016
Appleyard:
It is only an uninform person that will believe the crap called ''moderate'' rebels. There are no moderate in Syria. They are all terrorist and the Russians should weed them out. The only painful thing in all these is that, civilians are the ones mostly caught up in the mirage. I just pray this whole thing end soon.
guy, i can see you are running away from nigeria political discussion, i told you on 21th june last yr that you will be disappointed if you are expecting any good from buhari. I salute.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by ebamma(m): 9:52pm On Jun 06, 2016
An attack on the Syrian army by this so called moderate rebels hardly gets a mention by the Bbc, Cnn and co.
But when the Syrian army retaliates, it will be their number one headline.
So much for unbiased press.
Now i understand why some countries ban some media organisations from broadcasting in their territory.

The Western mainstream press work hand in hand with the Imperialists and Neocons.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by capip120(m): 9:58pm On Jun 06, 2016
[s][quote author=ValerianSteel post=46336371]Russia would fail propping up Assad.Its only a matter of time.Eventually Assad would be removed either forcefully or legitimately as that's the only option supported by other World powers,the United States and even the Syrian people.

The United States has taken out top leaders in ISIS and Russia is busy playing ping pong with Moderate rebels,we've seen the effects of that with ISIS murdering even its own members as alleged spies feeding information to US led coalition.They won't have Assad for long and the incoming government which will definitely come from withing the rebel stronghold will give Russia a black eye starting with a shut down of all Russia Naval facility.

Russia can continue attacking the rebels and killing more innocent lives along the line but assuredly they will be isolated from the Syrian roundtables by which time removing Assad would be inevitable for the world to say No.[/quote[/s]]
Absolute hogwash! This is pure rubbish and should be thrown into a pedal bin.
Who are the world leaders? You mean the coalition of evils? You mean the house of Saud? The Saudis have killed more than 16,000 children in Yemen but the so called 'WORLD LEADERS' haven't done a thang thing to call those blood sucking demons to order. They have funded more terrorist group and attacks than the world could count and the so called world leaders didn't condemn or call them to order. They planned the 9/11 attack on the US but the coward and puppet US government couldn't do a thang, now citizens wants to sue Satan Arabia but the puppy in the White House is threatening to veto the bill.
Families of 9/11 victims are infuriated that the Obama administration is lobbying hard against a bill that could result in Saudi Arabia being held responsible in U.S. courts for Sept. 11, 2001.

Saudi Arabia is threatening to dump hundreds of billions of dollars of U.S. assets if Congress passes the law, which would make it easier for Americans to win lawsuits against Saudis implicated in the 9/11 attacks, reports The New York Times. The Saudi foreign minister personally visited Washington last month and told lawmakers Saudi Arabia would be forced to sell up to $750 billion in treasury securities and other assets if the law passes, because of the potential for U.S. courts to freeze the assets on behalf of 9/11 families.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/16/obama-fights-bill-that-could-make-saudis-pay-for-911/
In Syria we have a man who came face to face with the devil, odds were against him he was projected to fail but it took a snap of a finger to get things to where we are now(thanks to Lord Putin). That man is pounding the evil out of the devil and the only thing the world leaders could come up with is the bullshit of killings of children and other sponsored propaganda aimed at smearing Assad's campaign against terrorism.
Not forgetting so soon the atrocious acts of terrorism the US carried out against an Iranian passenger airplane in the Persian Gulf in the year 1988 by the USS Vinciennes killing all 290 passengers on board including 66 children and tried to cover it up.
Even when it was finally established that the US was responsible the vice president George Bush vowed never to apologize.
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2014/7/18/1314985/--I-Will-Never-Apologize-Iran-Flight-665-Shot-Down-290-Dead
The thing with you my prend is that you you and your ilks suffer from acute dementia and self elopement, your sense of judgment have been excavated and a chip from Washington has taken over. If they say back; you back. But thank God their is still hope for you as me and my five star generals are ready to put you on the right path so you can see what we see and hear what we hear.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by Nobody: 10:54pm On Jun 06, 2016
Flexherbal:
The world is becoming very tough for humans.

Courtesy of Amerika & NATO. Putin shouldn't have honoured that cessation of hostilities but I'm glad he has decided to correct that mistake.

Take cover, Kalibr cruise-missiles are coming. grin

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by Appleyard(m): 11:43pm On Jun 06, 2016
begod:
guy, i can see you are running away from nigeria political discussion, i told you on 21th june last yr that you will be disappointed if you are expecting any good from buhari. I salute.
Realy? Honestly, i didn't remember. Anyway, its not all that bad yet. There are still 3years ahead. One can only be optimistic.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by bonechamberlain(m): 6:54am On Jun 07, 2016
Better no need to wait for america again, the delay tactic used by the US is to rearm the terrorist. So much time has been wasted achieving almost nothing. Bomb those bastards to oblivion.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by NairaMinted: 7:49am On Jun 07, 2016
I present to you the biggest and foremost sponsor of terror that the world hasever seen: The Empire of Chaos, The Hegemon Extraodinaire,The United States of Anarchy, The United States of Amerika! From Iraq to Libya to Syria to Yemen - and so many others, it's terror hordes operate and unleash terror.

Below is yet another "frustrated", "Amerika hating", "Putin bootlicker" accusing Amerika of unspeakable things.

[size=18pt]US effectively siding with Al-Qaeda in desire to get rid of Assad – former UK ambassador to Syria[/size]
Published: 7 Jun 2016 | 03:37 GMT
US effectively siding with Al-Qaeda in desire to get rid of Assad – former UK ambassador to Syria

The US is “ready to de facto ally” with its archenemies from Al-Qaeda’s branch in Syria as part of its “obsession” by using “so-called moderate” moderate groups to overthrow the Syrian government, former UK ambassador to Syria, Peter Ford, told RT in an exclusive interview.

The US “is effectively siding with a branch of Al-Qaeda” in Syria, Peter Ford told RT, speaking of Washington’s recent request to Moscow not to target Al-Nusra positions with air strikes for the sake of moderate opposition groups located in the same area.

Read more

‘Moderate opposition’ involved in ongoing attacks on civilians in Aleppo – Syrian FM to UN



Members of al Qaeda's Nusra Front carry their weapons as they walk near al-Zahra village, north of Aleppo city. File photo. © Hosam Katan

The former ambassador denounced the move as “not reasonable at all” and “grotesque.” He also sharply criticized the US for their “obsession with getting rid of Assad and the secular government in Syria” that leads them right to the alliance with “their arch-enemies” and to the loss of “all moral and practical competence.”

“We can only hope that it is a temporary aberration and they will soon return to their senses,” Ford told RT, urging the US government to abandon their policy of de facto aiding Al-Qaeda’s affiliate. He also expressed his support for Russia’s “very reasonable demand that the forces of the so-called moderate opposition disentangle themselves from the embraces of Al-Nusra and allow Al-Nusra to be bombed.”

The former ambassador also stressed that there is “virtually no difference” between Al-Nusra and such groups as Jaish al-Islam, Ahrar al-Sham and Jaish al-Fatah as they are “indistinguishable” in terms of ideology, sectarian bias and their practical methods consisting of “massacres and ruthlessness.”

He also emphasized that the only difference between Al-Nusra and other groups that western countries, including the US, portray as “moderate opposition” lies in the field of tactics.

“The so-called moderate groups pay lip service to the idea that Syria might end up with a secular system after negotiations provided only that Assad will go. They pay lip service to this but anyone, who believes it must be a fool but the Americans use this as a reason or the pretext not to go after these groups,” Ford said.

Read more
Mohamad BayoushSyrian villagers describe massacre by militant group spared from UN terror blacklist (EXCLUSIVE)

The former ambassador denounced the US’ “obsession with getting rid of Assad, which they euphemistically call ‘transition’ in the context of the negotiations” as an attempt to carry out another regime change as they previously did in Iraq and Libya.

“They are keen, it seems, to repeat the same mistakes in Damascus,” Ford said, commenting on the US continuous efforts to oust the Syrian President Bashar Assad from power.

At the same time, he warned that “it is really dangerous to mainstream these jihadi groups with a handful of genuinely democratic secular oppositionists, who are the tiny minority of the opposition on the ground,” referring to such groups as Jaish al-Islam and Ahrar al-Sham, which the US, France, the UK, and Ukraine refused to designate as terrorist organizations and add them to a UN Security Council (UNSC) blacklist.

On June 5, the Syrian Foreign Ministry sent a letter to the UN, in which it alleged that some of the so-called “moderate” opposition groups had been shelling residential areas in Aleppo, Syria, alongside Al-Nusra Front. The ministry also accused some regional powers, including Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar, of “sponsoring terrorists” and attempting to derail the peace negotiations in Geneva.

The letter designated such groups as Jaish al-Islam, Ahrar al-Sham, and Jaish al-Fatah as Al Nusra’s “affiliates” and criticized some members of the UNSC for their refusal to add them to the UN list of terrorist groups.


In the meantime, terrorist shellings of Syrian cities have resulted in the deaths of more than 270 civilians within the last 24 hours, Russia’s Defense Ministry said. Al-Nusra and Ahrar al-Sham have also conducted joint attacks in the Kurdish-controlled Sheikh Maqsood neighborhood in the northern part of Aleppo that particularly left 40 people dead.

READ MORE: US asks Russia not to target Al-Qaeda branch in Syria – Russian FM Lavrov

These shelling and attacks, according to the Russian Ministry of Defense, became possible due to the fact that the terrorists’ positions were not targeted for some time by Russian air forces at the request of the United States. According to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, Washington asked Russia not to target Al-Nusra Front precisely because the terrorist group is sharing territory with some “moderate” opposition groups that might also potentially be hit in airstrikes.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by NairaMinted: 7:53am On Jun 07, 2016
Lest you forget, we remind you:

"I have met with these brave fighters, and they are not Al-Qaeda. To the contrary: They are Libyan patriots who want to liberate their nation. We should help them do it."-Senator John McCain in Benghazi, Libya April 22, 2011 - as an Al- Qaeda flag was hoisted over a Benghazi courthouse......

Of course they are Muslims, but they are moderates. I guarantee you that they are moderates — I know them, and I have been with them.Senator John McCain, speaking about the rebels in Syria, Washington, September 3, 2013

Not true, not true! Frankly, I just disagree… There’s about 70 percent still who are Free Syrian Army.” _ Senator John McCain, Washington, September 18, 2013

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by NairaMinted: 8:30am On Jun 07, 2016
scully95:
These rebel forces, american zionist moderate terrorists get mind oh.. see what they firing into syrian arab army positions backed by almighty airforce super power in aleppo.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzSJWEIB-ck

Those are Amerikan manufactured TOW missiles.
Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by scully95: 11:42am On Jun 07, 2016
NairaMinted:


Those are Amerikan manufacturer TOW missiles.

yes, you are right. that's TOW making an impact on Syrian stockpile. it ignited other stockpiles that made the huge smoke.
Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by Appleyard(m): 12:14pm On Jun 07, 2016
ebamma:
An attack on the Syrian army by this so called moderate rebels hardly gets a mention by the Bbc, Cnn and co.
But when the Syrian army retaliates, it will be their number one headline.
So much for unbiased press.
Now i understand why some countries ban some media organisations from broadcasting in their territory.

The Western mainstream press work hand in hand with the Imperialists and Neocons.
It is written: ''Yeah shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.''

Brother, you are free indeed.. Some of the media houses we have are the mouthpiece of Satan.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by Appleyard(m): 12:27pm On Jun 07, 2016
capip120:
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He that have an ear, let him hear what the Spirit sayeth through Capip120, 5star General, 87th Batallion, Reinformation Brigade, undercover, Copenhagen.

Yeah Apostles of Mendacity, Hearken to Him, for the Words of the Elders are Words of Wisdom. The wise listen and liveth longer, but the mendacious foolish will ignore and go down to his abyss of everlasting doom.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by Appleyard(m): 12:30pm On Jun 07, 2016
Zoharariel:


Courtesy of Amerika & NATO. Putin shouldn't have honoured that cessation of hostilities but I'm glad he has decided to correct that mistake.

Take cover, Kalibr cruise-missiles are coming. grin
With vengeance of fire, as directed by General Poiseidon000.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by Lucasbalo(m): 12:42pm On Jun 07, 2016
Appleyard:
With vengeance of fire, as directed by General Poiseidon000.
One war begot another. Let us say no more war. War is no fun. I am very anti war and that's my problem with the US leadership. Meddling in foreign problems. I almost lost two nephews of mine in George Bush useless wars of greed and vengeance. One of them relocated to Canada and took up Canadian citizenship. They are both physiologically scared for life. WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by NairaMinted: 1:35pm On Jun 07, 2016
Lucasbalo:
One war begot another. Let us say no more war. War is no fun. I am very anti war and that's my problem with the US leadership. Meddling in foreign problems. I almost lost two nephews of mine in George Bush useless wars of greed and vengeance. One of them relocated to Canada and took up Canadian citizenship. They are both physiologically scared for life. WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER.

Then the Amerikan people should vote in leaders that are non-interventionist, that are respectful of the sovereignty of other nations and see war as the very last resort not a tool to get its way with.
Anything short of that, your wish is a fantasy

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by Lucasbalo(m): 1:44pm On Jun 07, 2016
NairaMinted:


Then the Amerikan people should vote in leaders that are non-interventionist, that are respectful of the sovereignty of other nations and see war as the very last resort not a tool to get its way with.
Anything short of that, your wish is a fantasy
Americans are not one issue voter. That's what people don't understand. You will never know the impacts of war until you have been in one. I belong to a Peace movement in Chicago and most of our members are veterans of past America wars. It's not a fantasy to be against war. It's easy to type on Nairaland about all war relevancy, but if you fought in a war for five minutes, your jingoistic attitude will change. Personally to me being scared about my two nephews, it's bad for America's economy. America greatness to me is not her military might but her economic might and diversity.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by Nobody: 2:31pm On Jun 07, 2016
Lucasbalo:


America greatness to me is not her military might but her economic might and diversity.


And even that is about to be lost to China. grin

Listen to me my money-doubling priend. Even if Amerika ends her Global Destabilization Program now, it would never change a thing. 1 good deed is never enough to redeem a man from lifetime of wickedness.

The Gods have decreed that Amerika must pay dearly for her evil & pernicious ways.

Did you see how Muammar Gadaffi was sodomized with bayonets live on TV, before a bullet was finally shot through his brain with his golden pistol?

Lucas! forget - Peacenik or not, Amerika must answer for her crimes against humanity!

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by Lucasbalo(m): 2:37pm On Jun 07, 2016
Zoharariel:


And even that is about to be lost to China. grin

Listen to me my money-doubling priend. Even if Amerika ends her Global Destabilization Program now, it would never change a thing. 1 good deed is never enough to redeem a man from lifetime of wickedness.

The Gods have decreed that Amerika must pay dearly for her evil & pernicious ways.

Did you see how Muammar Gadaffi was sodomized with bayonets live on TV, before a bullet was finally shot through his brain with his golden pistol?

Lucas! forget - Peacenik or not, Amerika must answer for her crimes against humanity!
With your pathological hatred for America, your case is out of the left field. To your angst, with all my disagreements with my Yankee loving friends about America military interventionism, she's still the greatest country in the world. You will never know that being where you are and that's perfectly OK with me.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by scully95: 3:35pm On Jun 07, 2016
Lucasbalo:
With your pathological hatred for America, your case is out of the left field. To your angst, with all my disagreements with my Yankee loving friends about America military interventionism, she's still the greatest country in the world. You will never know that being where you are and that's perfectly OK with me.

Here goes omo ale Yo'ooba again. Spamming every post with "hatred for America". Ode osi. In the past one decade can you mention one thing Anglozionist empire did that is great ? One thing ? I am talking about this 1%.

It's such a dieing empire that can never thrive without a War with less armed countries. When it comes to proper war with fully armed countries, it pushes puppets or proxies to fight. A tactic that has been checkmated several times in the past and still being checkmated today.

Instead of thriving on Building Bridges with countries, Building huge structures particularly in Africa like China is helping the Africans to develop. This dieing empire preffer to thrive on war. China is now number one biggest Economy in the world and has not Engaged in a war for years.

Has middle class of 500m population, that alone is bigger than the totality of any consuming economy in the world.
Can anyone speak of the same for the dieing Anglozionist empire that has turned war to a Business, building junks, several cannon fodders calling it industrial complex and setting up artificial warafare to test junks so Puppets can continue buying the junk and thinking that is being great ?

The greatest country in the world is China that builds and thrive on Building bridges, structures but not on War. Even as China is doing, it's still very powerful militarily.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by Lucasbalo(m): 3:57pm On Jun 07, 2016
scully95:


Here goes omo ale Yo'ooba again. Spamming every post with "hatred for America". Ode osi. In the past one decade can you mention one thing Anglozionist empire did that is great ? One thing ? I am talking about this 1%.

It's such a dieing empire that can never thrive without a War with less armed countries. When it comes to proper war with fully armed countries, it pushes puppets or proxies to fight. A tactic that has been checkmated several times in the past and still being checkmated today.

Instead of thriving on Building Bridges with countries, Building huge structures particularly in Africa like China is helping the Africans to develop. This dieing empire preffer to thrive on war. China is now number one biggest Economy in the world and has not Engaged in a war for years.

Has middle class of 500m population, that alone is bigger than the totality of any consuming economy in the world.
Can anyone speak of the same for the dieing Anglozionist empire that has turned war to a Business, building junks, several cannon fodders calling it industrial complex and setting up artificial warafare to test junks so Puppets can continue buying the junk and thinking that is being great ?

The greatest country in the world is China that builds and thrive on Building bridges, structures but not on War. Even as China is doing, it's still very powerful militarily.

Oloriburuku, poverty incarnate. The poverty you are struggling with has destroyed your moral compass. Scamming and jobless troll that you are. You can't carry my jockstrap in your best day. The mosquitos and rats in your dinghy lightless room you dwell in have destroyed what remains of your sanity. I am a very accomplished man and I wasn't going to reply you but I did to deflate your worthless ego. Would be in Nigeria in December and I would dare you to meet me anywhere of your choice in Lagos. You faceless skunk.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by Appleyard(m): 4:09pm On Jun 07, 2016
Lucasbalo:
One war begot another. Let us say no more war. War is no fun. I am very anti war and that's my problem with the US leadership. Meddling in foreign problems. I almost lost two nephews of mine in George Bush useless wars of greed and vengeance. One of them relocated to Canada and took up Canadian citizenship. They are both physiologically scared for life. WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER.
100% right. Brother, there is nothing as ugly as a war. Only the little crisis we are seeing here in the Niger Delta, is like Satan has become a full blown human. How much more wars where fighter jets and ships are launching fire? God help us all.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by scully95: 4:12pm On Jun 07, 2016
Lucasbalo:
Oloriburuku, poverty incarnate. The poverty you are struggling with has destroyed your moral compass. Scamming and jobless troll that you are. You can't carry my jockstrap in you best day. The mosquitos and rats in your dinghy lightless room you dwell in have destroyed what remains of your sanity. I am a very accomplished man and I wasn't going to reply you but I did to deflate your worthless ego. Would be in Nigeria in December and I would dare you to meet me anywhere of your choice in Lagos. You faceless skunk.

omo ale yo'ooba will always act like omo ale sha ni. chai, omo ale jati jati that brags about emptiness. 'accomplished man'.. see the level of backwardness i was talking about. who is asking you whatever you are ??

only an empty vessel brags about everything even when not asked.. example, just unnecessarily showing off when you have little or nothing. you fall in this shape, your own is even worse. you got nothing yet, keep making mouth. no one is asking if you are ok or not, answer the question olosi jati jati..

one great thing the anglozionist empire has done in the last decade ?

one great thing the anglozionist empire has done in the last decade ?

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by Appleyard(m): 5:14pm On Jun 07, 2016
Lucasbalo:
Americans are not one issue voter. That's what people don't understand. You will never know the impacts of war until you have been in one. I belong to a Peace movement in Chicago and most of our members are veterans of past America wars. It's not a fantasy to be against war. It's easy to type on Nairaland about all war relevancy, but if you fought in a war for five minutes, your jingoistic attitude will change. Personally to me being scared about my two nephews, it's bad for America's economy. America greatness to me is not her military might but her economic might and diversity.

You can say that again. Some folks who have not even experience an armed robbery attack once in their life, will just jump online and start typing nonesense how NATO or a particular country would easily wipe out another with nukes and or with conventional might. The way they will say it will make you think you are watching playstation. One hasbara troll is even here now praying IS which is killing people everywhere, should win, just because they hate a particular or group of nations. Some where even rejoicing that planes are being shot down. My brother, i just don't understand how some people's mind and conscience look like.
I remember when the Boston Bomb attack took place, a Cousin of mine who lives in Spain posted in his Facebook Page, ''payback is a b!tch, smell it.'' Men, i was shocked, and when i rebuked him for such a heartless comment, (being that am his senior,) he got angry, after some exchange of words, and till today, whenever i message him, he doesn't reply back. The reason for his hatred for America was that, a friend of his was killed by US Drone strike. So, the hatred. Just as many of us may have one reason or the other to hate America or Russia, what my cousin and many more on both side fails to realize is that, as his late friend is innocent of such terror-like American attack, so too are the victims of the Bostom terror bombing. The end result is that, its the innocent that dies mostly - this side or that side. And when you applaud their death, you authomatically become a part of that crime. This isn't trying to be holy, but the fact.
This realization is why i mostly dodge war threads on Nairaland. The only point of plausibility to me is, where the likes of terrorists like ISIS or Boko Haram are concern, i can vouch for their quick termination because, any group or body killing both women and children, beheading and burning in acid, bombing both Christians and Muslims alike, is, or are not worthy of life and deserve no human sympathy. These are the set of people who i call ''offsprings of the Serpent Seed'', the greatest mystery in the Bible. These are human-animals with no natural humanely acceptable ideology. I support that they should be quickly exterminated before they plung the rest of us into extinction.

But again, civilians are the ones also mostly caught in the cross-hair, just as we are seeing in Syria now.

Thus, anyway you may look at it, war is man's worst enemy. But the fact that some revere in it, beat my comprehension.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by Lucasbalo(m): 5:35pm On Jun 07, 2016
Appleyard:


You can say that again. Some folks who have not even experience an armed robbery attack once in their life, will just jump online and start typing nonesense how NATO or a particular country would easily wipe out another with nukes and or with conventional might. The way they will say it will make you think you are watching playstation. One hasbara troll is even here now praying IS which is killing people everywhere, should win, just because they hate a particular or group of nations. Some where even rejoicing that planes are being shot down. My brother, i just don't understand how some people's mind and conscience look like.
I remember when the Boston Bomb attack took place, a Cousin of mine who lives in Spain posted in his Facebook Page, ''payback is a b!tch, smell it.'' Men, i was shocked, and when i rebuked him for such a heartless comment, (being that am his senior,) he got angry, after some exchange of words, and till today, whenever i message him, he doesn't reply back. The reason for his hatred for America was that, a friend of his was killed by US Drone strike. So, the hatred. Just as many of us may have one reason or the other to hate America or Russia, what my cousin and many more on both side fails to realize is that, as his late friend is innocent of such terror-like American attack, so too are the victims of the Bostom terror bombing. The end result is that, its the innocent that dies mostly - this side or that side. And when you applaud their death, you authomatically become a part of that crime. This isn't trying to be holy, but the fact.
This realization is why i mostly dodge war threads on Nairaland. The only point of plausibility to me is, where the likes of terrorists like ISIS or Boko Haram are concern, i can vouch for their quick termination because, any group or body killing both women and children, beheading and burning in acid, bombing both Christians and Muslims alike, is, or are not worthy of life and deserve no human sympathy. These are the set of people who i call ''offsprings of the Serpent Seed'', the greatest mystery in the Bible. These are human-animals with no natural humanely acceptable ideology. I support that they should be quickly exterminated before they plung the rest of us into extinction.

But again, civilians are the ones also mostly caught in the cross-hair, just as we are seeing in Syria now.

Thus, anyway you may look at it, war is man's worst enemy. But the fact that some revere in it, beat my comprehension.
Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by Lucasbalo(m): 6:21pm On Jun 07, 2016
Appleyard:


You can say that again. Some folks who have not even experience an armed robbery attack once in their life, will just jump online and start typing nonesense how NATO or a particular country would easily wipe out another with nukes and or with conventional might. The way they will say it will make you think you are watching playstation. One hasbara troll is even here now praying IS which is killing people everywhere, should win, just because they hate a particular or group of nations. Some where even rejoicing that planes are being shot down. My brother, i just don't understand how some people's mind and conscience look like.
I remember when the Boston Bomb attack took place, a Cousin of mine who lives in Spain posted in his Facebook Page, ''payback is a b!tch, smell it.'' Men, i was shocked, and when i rebuked him for such a heartless comment, (being that am his senior,) he got angry, after some exchange of words, and till today, whenever i message him, he doesn't reply back. The reason for his hatred for America was that, a friend of his was killed by US Drone strike. So, the hatred. Just as many of us may have one reason or the other to hate America or Russia, what my cousin and many more on both side fails to realize is that, as his late friend is innocent of such terror-like American attack, so too are the victims of the Bostom terror bombing. The end result is that, its the innocent that dies mostly - this side or that side. And when you applaud their death, you authomatically become a part of that crime. This isn't trying to be holy, but the fact.
This realization is why i mostly dodge war threads on Nairaland. The only point of plausibility to me is, where the likes of terrorists like ISIS or Boko Haram are concern, i can vouch for their quick termination because, any group or body killing both women and children, beheading and burning in acid, bombing both Christians and Muslims alike, is, or are not worthy of life and deserve no human sympathy. These are the set of people who i call ''offsprings of the Serpent Seed'', the greatest mystery in the Bible. These are human-animals with no natural humanely acceptable ideology. I support that they should be quickly exterminated before they plung the rest of us into extinction.

But again, civilians are the ones also mostly caught in the cross-hair, just as we are seeing in Syria now.

Thus, anyway you may look at it, war is man's worst enemy. But the fact that some revere in it, beat my comprehension.
God bless you for your post and I am not patronizing you. My opposition to war comes from my youthful experience of growing up in a very bad section of Chicago north side ( Uptown ) when it was called Bucket of Blood. I saw few unnecessary killings. I have told stories about my two nephews who we grew up together. Both of them changed when they came back from Bush useless wars that almost bankrupt America. That's why I stay away from all the jingoistic people on Nairaland. I lost a close colleague who worked with Fitzgerald Investments on the 93 Floor of the North Twin Building. Like you said before, I have been robbed with a gun and I have been in an office in Miami where gunshots erupted all of a sudden. Believe me my brother, it's no fun. The worst hawkish leaders in America like Bush, Chenney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowiz will never send their children to war. In conclusion, war is ugly and God hates ugliness.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by Lucasbalo(m): 6:46pm On Jun 07, 2016
scully95:


omo ale yo'ooba will always act like omo ale sha ni. chai, omo ale jati jati that brags about emptiness. 'accomplished man'.. see the level of backwardness i was talking about. who is asking you whatever you are ??

only an empty vessel brags about everything even when not asked.. example, just unnecessarily showing off when you have little or nothing. you fall in this shape, your own is even worse. you got nothing yet, keep making mouth. no one is asking if you are ok or not, answer the question olosi jati jati..

one great thing the anglozionist empire has done in the last decade ?

one great thing the anglozionist empire has done in the last decade ?
Poverty runs in your family and you inherited it from the mongrels you descended from. Oloriburuku, you should know about being Omo Ale since you were bred in a slum. Oduduwa you are not. I am not the reason for your poverty and misfortune in life. You are going to die in penury like your subhuman forebears. Jobless tout pretending to be a blogger that can't show his ugly Skunky face. You are a subhuman piece of garbage. Will be in Lagos in December and let's meet so I can show you that you can only bark but not bite. You can't even show your poverty ridden ugly face. Your Irumole will destroy what's left of your poverty ridden life. You are due for the Market Square Oloriburuku.

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Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by seunny4lif(m): 7:11pm On Jun 07, 2016
embarassed
What can I say
Hmmm
Is it watching my 2 friends be killed in Libya or everyday bombing of Libya by NATO before Baba was killed...
I was inside our office when Baba was killled and you need to see how Tripoli people were Sad embarassed
My Boss told that, they will suffer for the death of Baba..
I left Libya now but only God can let that Country have peace embarassed
My Libya is gone embarassed
Lucasbalo:
God bless you for your post and I am not patronizing you. My opposition to war comes from my youthful experience of growing up in a very bad section of Chicago north side ( Uptown ) when it was called Bucket of Blood. I saw few unnecessary killings. I have told stories about my two nephews who we grew up together. Both of them changed when they came back from Bush useless wars that almost bankrupt America. That's why I stay away from all the jingoistic people on Nairaland. I lost a close colleague who worked with Fitzgerald Investments on the 93 Floor of the North Twin Building. Like you said before, I have been robbed with a gun and I have been in an office in Miami where gunshots erupted all of a sudden. Believe me my brother, it's no fun. The worst hawkish leaders in America like Bush, Chenney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowiz will never send their children to war. In conclusion, war is ugly and God hates ugliness.
Re: Russia Prepares To Bomb The 'moderate' out of the 'Rebels' In Aleppo Again - by capip120(m): 7:47pm On Jun 07, 2016
Appleyard:
He that have an ear, let him hear what the Spirit sayeth through Capip120, 5star General, 87th Batallion, Reinformation Brigade, undercover, Copenhagen.

Yeah Apostles of Mendacity, Hearken to Him, for the Words of the Elders are Words of Wisdom. The wise listen and liveth longer, but the mendacious foolish will ignore and go down to his abyss of everlasting doom.
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