dalaman:


By lying that the word slave is actually supposed to mean employee or servant right? So you can beat your employee and pass them as permanent inheritance to your kids. Well done.

Hmmm

KingEbukaNaija:



Hmmm

The Jewish encyclopaedia states that the real meaning is slave. Most Bible translations use the word slave as rightly translated. The JPS which is considered as the most accurate translation of the Hebrew bible uses slave.If the apologist whose work is in the OP likes he can rewrite his own bible and use employee.

dalaman:


The Jewish encyclopaedia states that the real meaning is slave. Most Bible translations use the word slave as rightly translated. The JPS which is considered as the most accurate translation of the Hebrew bible uses slave.If the apologist whose work is in the OP likes he can rewrite his own bible and use employee.

Winner01 : The truth: The most popular English Bible versions rightfully translates the word "ebed" as slaves: NLV, ESV, NASB, KJV, ISV, HCSB, NET Bible, GWT, NAS, KJV 2000, AKJV et al.
What the Jewish Encyclopaedia really said: The Hebrew word "'ebed" really means "slave"; but the English Bible renders it "servant" (a) where the word is used figuratively, pious men being "servants of the Lord" (Isa. xx. 3), and courtiers "servants of the king" (Jer. xxxvii. 2); and (b) in passages which refer to Hebrew bondmen, whose condition is far above that of slavery (Ex. xxi. 2-7). Where real slaves are referred to, the English versions generally use "bondman" for "'ebed," and "bondwoman" or "bondmaid" for the corresponding feminines

The dictionary meaning of the word figuratively: The adverb figuratively describes something symbolic, not actual. For example, If a friend invites you to tonight's concert but you already have plans with your family, you might say — figuratively — that your hands are tied.

The Jewish encyclopaedia recognizes that the english versions that use the word servant, make use of it figuratively.

Afrokan:
I read the article and weeped at the ignorance of the writer...Trying to turn the slavery in the bible into a lesser crime and giving it another name.
What is wrong with African? Cant we think

No. We can't.

That is why we need white Chizoss to think for us.

If Goat has decreed slavery in the buybull we Africans will defend it with our lives.

the basic question is does God endorse the buying and selling of humans?

KingEbukaNaija:


Jack Bizzle 's reasoning :

Argentine footballer Lionel Messi is a property of Barcelona because of his contract , therefore he is a foreign slave

An Albert Einstein moment from logic boy himself

When did I claim that Lionel Messi is a property of Barcelona?

Are you mad or just a liar?

JackBizzle:



When did I claim that Lionel Messi is a property of Barcelona?

Are you mad or just a liar?

How can a slave know slavery is bad?

KingEbukaNaija:

Next time, don't tell silly lies.

KingEbukaNaija:


Yeah . Im not joking .

They are bigots too

Learn more here :

1. https://www.nairaland.com/3203415/bigotry-atheism

2. https://www.nairaland.com/3148752/atheists-express-rage-against-god

Atheism is deleterious to a sound mind .

They now advocate for incestuous relationship after they got bestiality in Canada

Adam and eve practiced incest while your God didnt complain... So i dont really see a point here

JackBizzle:


Next time, don't tell silly lies.

Im trying to show you how you reasoned poorly

Afrokan:

Adam and eve practiced incest while your God didnt complain... So i dont really see a point here

It was morally ok in their dispensation but it is not allowed again . Incest was the expedient way of populating the world . Now its no longer necessary and it appalls me that atheists assent to incest . Atheists are perverts

ifenes:
How can a slave know slavery is bad?

No wonder the blacks didnt fight for freedom and are still slaves today

Kay17:
the basic question is does God endorse the buying and selling of humans?

No

KingEbukaNaija:


No

Simple.

Kay17:


Simple.

Huh ? Coming from you ? Are you now a Christian ?

KingEbukaNaija:


Im trying to show you how you reasoned poorly

No, you argued poorly. You brought a strawman and claimed that was what my argument mirrored.

How does my statement that slaves were property in the bible now logically mean that Messi is a slave of Barcelona?

KingEbukaNaija:


It was morally ok in their dispensation but it is not allowed again . Incest was the expedient way of populating the world . Now its no longer necessary and it appalls me that atheists assent to incest . Atheists are perverts

Listen to yourself clearly. Why couldn't your God create more people to prevent Adam and eve from committing incest? And you are saying their incest is okay because your bible says so but any other person is wrong because they dont have the bible backing?

dalaman:


Perfect summary. These apologist will twist and turn words and give them every meaning in the world. Imagine someone that just wants to tell lies saying that the words were inaccurately translated without giving us the accurate Hebrew words. These guys are ridiculous.

Atheist are fools in the highest order

Very educative and insightfull article. Nice one Bro.

The very smart fools will condeme this writeup.

blueAgent:


Atheist are fools in the highest order

You that you are fool of the lowest order, how has not being an atheist improved your life? What have you achieved?

JackBizzle:



You that you are fool of the lowest order, how has not being an atheist improved your life? What have you achieved?

I should ask you that.You say their is no God. but you still live in fear and misery.
I have acheived everything you ever wish to achieve and more.

blueAgent:



I should ask you that.You say their is no God. but you still live in fear and misery.
I have acheived everything you ever wish to achieve and more.

Yet, you are here on nairaland arguing with people you call "fools".

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blueAgent:


Atheist are fools in the highest order

Ok.

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KingEbukaNaija:
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Great topic that has that propensity to garner numerous pages of comments . Please front page

Since you have earlier conceded that God doesn't endorse the buying and selling of human beings, it will automatically mean that all provisions in Bible on slavery are not from God because God abhors slavery.

Besides God would abhor slavery not because buying and selling is bad but because human misery is bad

JackBizzle:



Yet, you are here on nairaland arguing with people you call "fools".

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3971807_ilaff_jpeg_jpeg40d810f7440ed021716175b8a3ef9f96

Iam not arguing with you people. you Atheists cannot match me in an arguement.

dalaman:


It actually gets worse for him. Selling people into bondage was allowed. The Jewish Encyclopaedia clearly states it. As for the beating of slaves, it is permitted as long as you do not injure or kill them. If you beat them and they die same day then it will be seen as murder and avanged as such but if they die the next day then it will not be seen as murder.

If he smites him or her so as to cause death on the same day, the deed is avenged as a murder; but not when death ensues on a subsequent day (Ex. xxi. 20, 21, 26, 27).

This is what this deluded winner01 is comparing to house help in our modern world. This guys are just pathetic.

Also, the idea of househelps is wrong in itself and rightly condemned by sensible human beings. Every househelp in Nigeria should be paid at the least the minimum wage and must be older than 18, but our lawmakers are so stupid they can't even enact meaningful laws.

However, it pales in comparison to the servitude suggested in the bible

Is it that Christians fail to understand the basic tenets of human rights or is it a case of biblical infallibility? When some can buy and sell you, whether as ebad, slave, bondsman, servant etc, you have lost your humanity dignity as you have been reduced to the worth of property.

winner01:
Your name should be changed to liar.

Lets hear what the Jewish encyclopaedia has to say about Gentile slaves:

[b]Foreign-Born Bondmen.
The Israelite is permitted by Lev. xxv. 44-46 to buy bondmen and bondwomen (in the true sense of the word) from among the surrounding nations, or from the strangers dwelling in his land, and from the descendants of these born in the land; the "indwelling" stranger being distinguished from the stranger who lives under the same law as the Israelite. Such bondmen or bondwomen become a possession, and are inherited by children like other property. But the law limits the absolute power of the master. If he strikes his bondman or bondwoman so as to cause the loss of an eye or a tooth, he or she goes free. If he smites him or her so as to cause death on the same day, the deed is avenged as a murder; but not when death ensues on a subsequent day (Ex. xxi. 20, 21, 26, 27). Another alleviation of bondage is the law (Deut. xxiii. 16, 17) forbidding the return of a fugitive slave to his master by those among whom he seeks shelter. The religious status of bondmen owned by Israelites is well defined by the Scriptures, which make them an integral part of the community. The males, though of foreign blood, whether bought for money, or "born in the house," are to be circumcised (Gen. xvii. 27; Ex. xii. 44), and when circumcised are to be admitted to eat of the Passover meal (ib.). Likewise the bondmen or bondwomen of a priest may eat of his holy meats (Lev. xxii. 11). Neither bondmen nor bondwomen are to be required to work on the Sabbath (Ex. xx. 10); indeed, the opportunity for the "son of thy handmaid" to have a "breathing-space" (A. V. "may be refreshed" is mentioned as one of the great motives for the institution of the Sabbath (Ex. xxiii. 12).[/b]



Will you or your wife agree to such liberating contract with your house maid?

You are filled with so much hate. Go hug your parents or something.

Honestly you are morally and intellectually sick. Which liberating contact? You are telling us that in the rubbish you wrote above, the slave signed a contractual agreement to be a slave? Please tell us how slaves were made or created. It seems you do not even know the meaning of the word slave.

I have never seen any body attempt to justify any form of slavery. I will not be surprised if you justify the enslavement of your forefathers by Christians. They must be justified because they were Christians.

Please, if you do not have excuses for some biblical wrong practices, simply shut up, instead of making silly excuses. Any body that is caught today doing any of those biblical verses you quoted to his or her maid would be sent to jail.

In addition; i am sure you are not aware that you are still a slave, not physical slavery but mental slavery. You worship the God of your slavemaster, you bow down before the image of your slavemaster. You speak like your slavemaster, think like your slavemaster and incapable of independent thought.