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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:35am On Jan 20, 2017
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got my eye on the left one grin grin grin grin

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:38am On Jan 20, 2017
MikeCZA:
Thales fin folfing rockets.

The FZ275LGR is still in development.

did not know that grin
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:44am On Jan 20, 2017
interesting s.korean tank design

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:46am On Jan 20, 2017
MikeCZA:



which one of the 2 baton armed chicks would u prefer in the pic posted above ? grin

remember left one is mine ....... choose wisely grin
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:49am On Jan 20, 2017
Indian RF seeker for brahmos

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:52am On Jan 20, 2017
turkish mounted VSHORAD (stinger)

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:55am On Jan 20, 2017
wiesel shocked grin

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:58am On Jan 20, 2017
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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 12:02pm On Jan 20, 2017
leopard 2

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 12:04pm On Jan 20, 2017
k-2 mbt s korea

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 12:18pm On Jan 20, 2017
nemesis2u:


no , that is the kestrel Wheeled Armored Amphibious Platform , it has nothing to do with the FICV program which involves tracked vehicles only ,kestrel was designed by TATA and VRDE to cater mainly for COIN operations and maybe rear...


Okay got it
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 2:06pm On Jan 20, 2017
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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:57pm On Jan 20, 2017
nemesis2u:
oh la la grin

got my eye on the left one grin grin grin grin

My condolences, they don't like Bloody civilians.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:02pm On Jan 21, 2017
LCA Tejas flypast at Republic day rehearsal

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:37pm On Jan 21, 2017
NSG (SAG)

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:00pm On Jan 21, 2017
jakeporeshenko:
Nemesis2u, i did a quick google search, is this the vehicle you're referring to?

Indian metallurgy has to improve. Indian built ship's are nice, but thier land systems are mostly horrible.

Look at this vehicle, is this an IFV? The damn thing looks like an earthworm.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:01pm On Jan 21, 2017
older version arjun mk1 equipped with soft kill systems

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:41pm On Jan 21, 2017
Henry240:


Indian metallurgy has to improve. Indian built ship's are nice, but thier land systems are mostly horrible.

Look at this vehicle, is this an IFV? The damn thing looks like an earthworm.
Indian defense organization don't consider anesthetics I guess, just look at their light combat helicopter and TATA trucks...etc Well at the end of the day all that matters is performance.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 10:21pm On Jan 21, 2017
Henry240:


Indian metallurgy has to improve. Indian built ship's are nice, but thier land systems are mostly horrible.

Look at this vehicle, is this an IFV? The damn thing looks like an earthworm.

what has metallurgy to do here ?

i mean how can u judge the quality of metallurgy from photos grin grin grin grin

and for the nth time that is an APC not a IFV.

looks like a earthworm ? grin grin grin grin
have u laid eyes on a earthworm , aren't they suppose to be long and round , u got to keep searching for another appropriate analogy grin
to me a hedgehog analogy seems fit grin

anyways coming to point ,
dont know about others, but Indian army is not interested in aesthetic appeal of weapons they r more interested in the ergonomics , functionality , maintainability , operational capability etc etc of a weapon system.
in short Indian military issues General Staff Qualitative Requirements (GSQRs) for each individual weapon system and every weapon system has to fulfill the requirements to be considered for user trials and if it does and passes the trials then it is inducted .


as for Indian metallurgy

Indian made nuclear submarines , nuclear reactors , aircraft's , helicopters , space launchers , satellites , missiles , medical equipment's , military vehicles, automobiles , ships , forging industries , electronics industry etc etc r using what then ? WOOD grin grin grin grin

i dont think u have an idea of the work/research being done by hundreds of institutes and R & D centers both in the government sector and private sector in India and the no of patents filed .

what is metallurgy ?
it broadly encompasses
1.Physical metallurgy
2.Mechanical metallurgy
3.Extractive metallurgy
4.Powder metallurgy
5.Mechanical behaviour of materials
6.Materials science
7.Manufacturing processes
8.Alloys and composites
9.Environmental degradation of materials
10.Modelling and simulation
11.Nanoscience and technology
12.Surface engineering
etc

India is nearly self sufficient in all of the above except for some technologies

it ranks among the high top 10 countries if not top 5 in some fields when it comes to metallurgy and advance materials (light alloys , advance composite material , particulate materials , ultrahigh temperature materials , smart materials , nano materials , ceramics , polymeric materials , inter mettalics etc etc )

last 60 years the fuuking budget for R & D was peanuts , only increased last year and still low. still a hell lot has to be done, since learning is a continuous process as technology always keeps on moving ahead , nobody can say he has all, only to realize he has been left behind grin grin


grin grin grin grin hope u got a basic lesson on metallurgy, i was planning on a more comprehensive write up on advance materials like super alloys, shape memory alloys , bio materials etc

when i realized what the hell nobody will even read it. grin grin grin grin

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 10:26pm On Jan 21, 2017
Henry240

since u like earthworm so much

for ur viewing pleasure grin grin grin grin

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:38pm On Jan 21, 2017
OFF TOPIC
lets talk about ancient indian metallugy

in delhi there is a pillar called iron pillar of delhi weighing 6 tonnes which dates back to the reign of chandragupta II vikramaditya (375-414 AD), despite it being 1600 years old it has not rusted away as an iron structure should have.

similar old pillars and objects in Indian temples exhibit similar rust proof properties which is still unexplained by science , even though some theories have been giving but non was proved .

all this is a testimony to the skills of the ancient Indian metallurgists at forging iron objects.


not many of u will know that
university of taxila was the oldest university in the world (600BC-500AD) and was home to 10,000 students including from china Babylon Greece Syria etc
and university of nalanda (2nd oldest university in the world) 500AD -1300AD was also home to around 10,000 students including from korea japan china tibet persia turkey etc

but everything lost to Islamic invaders universities burnt, libraries burnt, centuries of priceless hard word gone to waste . why because fuuking Indians in their quest for spirituality, righteousness, forgiveness and such nonsense lost their teeth to fight and defend themselves.

inspite of their knowledge and wisdom they failed to understand the reality that -in this world it is not the righteous who survive but it is only the fittest who survives.


sometimes i wonder ...... why be good and not bad , does it even matter , after all good and bad is only a manifestation of human though process , they exist (including god) solely because we humans (our brains/minds) exist .

my bets r on aliens and maybe sovngarde as a dragonborn grin grin grin grin

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 12:03am On Jan 22, 2017
nemesis2u:


what has metallurgy to do here ?

i mean how can u judge the quality of metallurgy from photos grin grin grin grin

and for the nth time that is an APC not a IFV.

looks like a earthworm ? grin grin grin grin
have u laid eyes on a earthworm , aren't they suppose to be long and round , u got to keep searching for another appropriate analogy grin
to me a hedgehog analogy seems fit grin




No offence, the vehicle looks like an earthworm. It's great that India is trying hard to be self sufficient but aesthetically, your vehicles are so damn ugly.

The LIght Combat Helicopter, LCA and mainly your land systems. Nothing beautiful about these vehicles. You got to work on your aesthetics. From China, the JF-17, J-10, J-20, J-31, Z-10, Chinese land systems, Naval systems, gear are by far more beautiful than anything India can offer.

I understand the Chinese are atleast 30 - 40 years ahead of India, but they are your main rival.

If you want to secure sales, you guys need to make your vehicles more beautiful. It's already a tight market. Whether ergonomics or whatever, there are many countries offering better.


For example why would anyone want to go for the Kestrel when the VN-1 is available.


I'm trying to insult India or anything of such, I'm only airing my opinion. Which i believe you agree with.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 12:22am On Jan 22, 2017
Henry240:


No offence, the vehicle looks like an earthworm. It's great that India is trying hard to be self sufficient but aesthetically, your vehicles are so damn ugly.

The LIght Combat Helicopter, LCA and mainly your land systems. Nothing beautiful about these vehicles. You got to work on your aesthetics. From China, the JF-17, J-10, J-20, J-31, Z-10, Chinese land systems, Naval systems, gear are by far more beautiful than anything India can offer.

I understand the Chinese are atleast 30 - 40 years ahead of India, but they are your main rival.

If you want to secure sales, you guys need to make your vehicles more beautiful. It's already a tight market. Whether ergonomics or whatever, there are many countries offering better.


For example why would anyone want to go for the Kestrel when the VN-1 is available.

I'm trying to insult India or anything of such, I'm only airing my opinion. Which i believe you agree with.

my dear friend if i had taken offence i would not have even replied , infact i had a good laugh wondering how would a nigerian earthworm look like if i were to base it on the APC design grin grin grin grin

i am not a fan of aesthetics , i grew up a poor family and i learned the hard way that functionality gives u the bang for money/opportunities etc.

a man with a empty stomach don't have much appreciation for beauty/aesthetics grin
but if the beauty got nice boobs with milk in it , then surely count me in grin grin grin grin

Indian military is basically a poor military so it needs functionality.

the choice is of the buying nation depending whether it wants to enter a fashion show or fight a war grin

china is 15-20 years ahead of india not 40 lolzz , from where do u conjure these data ?

let me tell u a bed time story , in the 90s indian army personnel took a prototype of arjun to Israel, it was done in a hush hush manner, the Indian fellows were given Israeli uniforms ranks and names , for several months what they did is unknown . later some whispers were heard that the Israelis were so impressed with arjuns mobility and ride comfort that they named it the desert Ferrari and they also helped with some technology and in return they asked for some data on arjuns kanchan armour which in lab tests had easily resisted latest Israeli APFSDS rounds at point blank range fired at 0 degree , the test teams were so surprised they though that the Israelis were supplying dummy rounds .
Indian weapons undergoes so much field trials that even comparable systems in their operation life cycle don't put up similiar mileage/usage.

insult India as much as u want except for the good people rest of them deserve it and i am not bothered ,
look at the threads here on this forum,
a rape happens in Antarctica and the people here start blaming india grin
do u see me going there , i go when i see u fellows (the guys i know) there , we meet once or twice i think when i followed u grin grin grin grin

anyways come on now ur putting worlds into my mouth grin grin
i seriously dont agree with u ,
please take a look at an earthworm at the earliest opportunity and refresh ur memory , ur most probably confusing the earthworm with ur d*ng grin grin grin grin

oh man! thats really funny grin

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 12:31am On Jan 22, 2017
nemesis2u:


my dear friend if i had taken offence i would not have even replied , infact i had a good laugh wondering how would a nigerian earthworm look like if i were to base it on the APC design grin grin grin grin

i am not a fan of aesthetics , i grew up a poor family and i learned the hard way that functionality gives u that the for money/opportunities etc.

insult india as much as u want except for the good people rest of them deserve it and i am not bothered , look at the threads here , do u see me going there , i go when i see u fellows (the guys i know) there , we meet once or twice i think when i followed u grin grin grin grin

anyways come on now ur putting worlds into my mouth grin grin
i seriously dont agree with u ,
please take a look at an earthworm at the earliest opportunity and refresh ur memory , ur most probably confusing the earthworm with ur d*ng grin grin grin grin

oh man! thats really funny grin

I'm glad you didn't take any offence.

I'm not talking about this vehicle specifically anymore, I meant generally. Indian equipment has to improve in terms of aesthetics. They could be the best in the world or the worst in terms of functionality, I don't know.


However what I do know is, the designs have to change. The ships and boats are nice, but land systems and aircrafts lots of improvements have to be made.

Just my opinion.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 12:34am On Jan 22, 2017
Henry240:


I'm glad you didn't take any offence.

I'm not talking about this vehicle specifically anymore, I meant generally. Indian equipment has to improve in terms of aesthetics. They could be the best in the world or the worst in terms of functionality, I don't know.


However what I do know is, the designs have to change. The ships and boats are nice, but land systems and aircrafts lots of improvements have to be made.

Just my opinion.

as aesthetic as the one below grin

that is one good weapon, get her to do a hot bollywood dance in skimpy cloths before the enemy troops and i think all of them will surrender peacefully , that is if they dont kill each other in the first place grin

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 12:52am On Jan 22, 2017
nemesis2u:


grin grin grin grin

as aesthetic as the one below

You edited your comment. So, I'm going with the previous question.


In other not to hurt your feelings, it is not an earthworm, what it is, is............... One of the ugliest APC's, I've seen in my life. And, I've seen alot of them.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 12:53am On Jan 22, 2017
nemesis2u:


as aesthetic as the one below grin

that is one good weapon, get her to do a hot bollywood dance in skimpy cloths before the enemy troops and i think all of them will surrender peacefully , that is if they dont kill each other in the first place grin


Photoshop!
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 12:56am On Jan 22, 2017
Henry240:


You edited your comment. So, I'm going with the previous question.


In other not to hurt your feelings, it is not an earthworm, what it is, is............... One of the ugliest APC's, I've seen in my life. And, I've seen alot of them.

now now the psychologist in me tells me that henry240 is in love over heels with the kestrel APC grin

dont deny it grin

love must not be suppressed with bitter words. grin

henry let go of ur true feelings grin grin grin grin

just take a deep breath and say "I LOVE U KESTREL APC" grin
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 12:59am On Jan 22, 2017
nemesis2u:


now now the psychologist in me tells me that henry240 is in love over heels with the kestrel APC grin

dont deny it grin

love must not be suppressed with bitter words. grin

henry let go of ur true feelings grin grin grin grin

just take a deep breath and say "I LOVE U KESTREL APC" grin

I don't. Wake up and smell the Indian tea.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 1:02am On Jan 22, 2017
Henry240:


Photoshop!

what photoshop

girl is real , i wish i was charlie grin
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 1:03am On Jan 22, 2017
Henry240:


I don't. Wake up and smell the Indian tea.

damn u ! its whiskey time grin
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 1:34am On Jan 22, 2017
good old T55 now mostly used as mine ploughs

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