hopefulLandlord:


Replace Jews with "Jesus" and answer the question then

hopefulLandlord:

I didn't read that properly

My apologies

I've edited it

KingEbukaNaija:


Christians are permitted to follow societal laws when it is congruous with God's laws .So if you are a Christian and you are of marriageable age according to your societal law then you can marry .

youngestland:


simply put, societal laws gives moral and not your holy books

hopefulLandlord:

I didn't read that properly

My apologies

I've edited it

KingEbukaNaija:
Pedophilia is sexual perversion and can also be seen under fornication or sexual immorality . It is unnatural to lust after a child . Eww !

1 Corinthians 6:18-20
Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

Child marriage wrong because the child is immature . It is usually done out of lust and the child is forced against her will or inveigled to commit to a man . Being married to a child is ungodly and can be seen as another form of pedophilia .

Lust is wrong . Persuasion using deceit -inveigling - is wrong . And the fact she is being coerced to do so means it is wrong

Jude 1:7
Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.

Being married to a child or having sex with a child can be seen as an unnatural desire and that is perversion - so its wrong.

naijadeyhia:



If you could not understand the one paragraph statement made by winner01 is it a 5 paragraph response that you would understand?

You always are faster than yourself and ask baseless and ridiculous questions without first taking time to understand what you are responding to. What does that say to you about yourself? Attention deficit disorder or something else?

Lilbrown007:

[size=21pt]HYPOCRITE HE DIDN'T SAY JUDAISM BUT CHRISTIANITY!!![/size]

hopefulLandlord:
Hi Christians

Since Christians claim morality comes from the Bible, what is the Bible's view on pedophilia and child marriage?

Do you endorse child marriage and Pedophilia? If no, why is it wrong? Where does the bible condemn it?

If I marry a 12 year old that has hit puberty and/or have sex with her, is it wrong? Where in the bible was it addressed as wrong?

dalaman:


Bla bla bla. Even during the time of Jesus the average age of marriage for the Jews was 13 for boys and 12 for girls. According to the Catholic encyclopaedia Mary the mother of Jesus married Joseph at age 12.

winner01:
I know the motives of atheists on Nairaland and thats why I have stopped giving to them Biblical explanations. Its better to discuss atheism with them so that they can see how empty and vain it really is.


For the sake of readers, I try to explain in the simplest manner.

Jesus expressed great love, care and concern towards children. He also stressed the truth of His father's concern for children in the opening parts of Matthew chapter 18.


In the same chapter, Jesus seriously warns; “But whosoever shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me or cause them to sin, it would have been better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the deepest part of the sea” (Matthew 18:6).

Offending a child or causing a little child to sin may mean many things.
We have heard of several murder cases in child marriage, where the child bride murders the husband. It may be because the child was obviously offended.

The word paedophilia does not appear in the Bible and so are several other words such as: age of consent, encyclopaedia, HIV, Cancer, Ebola and other contemporary terms.
And so to expect the Bible written several hundreds of years ago to mention all the words or laws we use today is folly.


This and the responses above are the answers to the Op, but sadly they are more interested in mocking rather than trying to understand the Word of God.

It seems to me that nothing would serve as someone for evidence for someone who desperately wants to wish God away.
But if you wish God does not exist, why try to encourage other people to share your futile wishes?.

babajeje123:

I don't know what you want to justify by asking this question. However, let me start by saying marriage is a union between a MAN & a WOMAN. A girl of 12 years is not matured in most aspects. Emotionally, psychologically, physically & health wisely. As a matter of fact, puberty stage at such age does not indicate she is matured to go through the rigour of sexuality & child bearing. Rather, it indicates she can reproduce.
From the Bible, the first marriage God instituted was between a man & a woman and not minors.

kilo4sure:

If the Jews married children off, that doesn't mean Christians should do same. Christians have Jewish foundation but are not Jews, hence are not obliged to live by that code. We are not to live by the old testament, but it is for our correction and learning, it shows our foundation and describes the heroes of faith, but it was exclusive. Christ has taught us the general code that would in turn embrace all cultures, love thy neighbor as thyself, and like Williams said he obviously had a high regard for little children. If you are a girl you would hardly want to be married off at the age of twelve. But ancient cultures had little regard for the girl child, so why should they care about her feelings?

winner01:
I know the motives of atheists on Nairaland and thats why I have stopped giving to them Biblical explanations. Its better to discuss atheism with them so that they can see how empty and vain it really is.


For the sake of readers, I try to explain in the simplest manner.

Jesus expressed great love, care and concern towards children. He also stressed the truth of His father's concern for children in the opening parts of Matthew chapter 18.


In the same chapter, Jesus seriously warns; “But whosoever shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me or cause them to sin, it would have been better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the deepest part of the sea” (Matthew 18:6).

Offending a child or causing a little child to sin may mean many things.
We have heard of several murder cases in child marriage, where the child bride murders the husband. It may be because the child was obviously offended.

The word paedophilia does not appear in the Bible and so are several other words such as: age of consent, encyclopaedia, HIV, Cancer, Ebola and other contemporary terms.
And so to expect the Bible written several hundreds of years ago to mention all the words or laws we use today is folly.


This and the responses above are the answers to the Op, but sadly they are more interested in mocking rather than trying to understand the Word of God.

It seems to me that nothing would serve as someone for evidence for someone who desperately wants to wish God away.
But if you wish God does not exist, why try to encourage other people to share your futile wishes?.

winner01:
We do not follow the customs of the Jews, we follow the teachings of Jesus.
Ive posted His take on littoe children and so you can wave your hands all you want.

Born2Freak:
KingEbukaNaija and Winner01,

I have been watching you guys from the sidelines and I want you guys to come to this thread and defend your christianity.

You guys were claiming that the bible is the standard for morality. Why is the bible then silent on underage marriage? How do you preach to a muslim girl that wants to get married at 14?

Lilbrown007:

So Would U Call God Fvcking Mary At The Age Of 12 Rape?? Would U Call It Child Abuse??

babajeje123:

You're an atheist, I think.

Answer My Question

kilo4sure:

The girl would not have agreed to that, if she had not being brainwashed by her religion and society, the first thing is to debrainwash her by preaching Christ to her and then make her see that she has been bought with a price, her body is the temple of God and then make her see the devastating consequences of such early marriage on her body. Isn't that good enough?

Lilbrown007:

So Would U Call God Fvcking Mary At The Age Of 12 Rape?? Would U Call It Child Abuse??

naijadeyhia:



Dalaman do you see that even though winner01 and I are not in the same place yet we posted the same answer to the same questions asked by you and ifenes?

This explains what I said earlier.

kilo4sure:

The girl would not have agreed to that, if she had not being brainwashed by her religion and society, the first thing is to debrainwash her by preaching Christ to her and then make her see that she has been bought with a price, her body is the temple of God and then make her see the devastating consequences of such early marriage on her body. Isn't that good enough?

Lilbrown007:
I
Answer My Question

kilo4sure:

If the Jews married children off, that doesn't mean Christians should do same. Christians have Jewish foundation but are not Jews, hence are not obliged to live by that code. We are not to live by the old testament, but it is for our correction and learning, it shows our foundation and describes the heroes of faith, but it was exclusive. Christ has taught us the general code that would in turn embrace all cultures, love thy neighbor as thyself, and like Williams said he obviously had a high regard for little children. If you are a girl you would hardly want to be married off at the age of twelve. But ancient cultures had little regard for the girl child, so why should they care about her feelings?

dalaman:


What is the age of consent according to Jesus? At what age should people get married? Jesus had no words against child marriage because that was the norm during his time. If he were to have been married he would have gotten married to a teenage child whichwas the nor at that time.

hopefulLandlord:


No surprises you're taking full advantage of this despite my admitting my wrong

What does that say about you?

naijadeyhia:



A true Christian does not live by laws but by grace through faith. You keep repeating what has already been tackled. Does your brain need a jump start so it can bring up a whole new argument?

hopefulLandlord:


What if a 12 year old "wants" to get married at that age? Is it wrong? Since society and the child allowed it

If its wrong, why?

dalaman:


Moral evolution is what has ended child marriage in most part of the world. In Europe and US teenage marriage used to be the norm. As people gained more knowledge they decided to end the practice.

ifenes:


Who said a true Christian lives by faith? Whose report do you believe, Yahweh or Paul? Where did Yahweh say you now live by grace? Show me!

damogul:



Even you know you deserve no response for this Childish rant.