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|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by ezeagu(m): 10:00pm On Sep 22, 2009|
Then those who share phenotypes and genotypes are those races. Besides, I was trying to show people that there were people in West Africa thousands of years before 'Egypt' sprang up, not to talk about races.
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by agabaI23(m): 12:12am On Sep 23, 2009|
Ezeagu is taking over from Becomerich in map reading!
Nice job. I will have time to read the first pag thoroughly. So much info . . .!
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Gamine(f): 12:43am On Sep 23, 2009|
Then those who share phenotypes and genotypes are those races. Grin Huh Besides, I was trying to show people that there were people in West Africa thousands of years before 'Egypt' sprang up, not to talk about races.
How did you show it?
For someone that gets his info from wikipedia, you are rather smart
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 1:29am On Sep 23, 2009|
Maybe this will help Igbo, Yoruba etc realize at the end of the day we are all brothers and sisters.
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by ezeagu(m): 1:58am On Sep 23, 2009|
Well people don't seem to pay attention to the sources linked through the little numbers ,  etc. at the end of each statement, paragraph or point that link to the bottom of the page showing the reliable source from which the information was obtained from and also helps for further reading. This is also seen in published books.
e.g In his landmark book The Races of Europe, Coon defined the Caucasian Race as encompassing the regions of Europe, Central Asia, South Asia, the Middle East, North Africa, and Northeast Africa. [links to:] Carleton S. Coon, The Origin of Races, (New York: Knopf, 1962)
Now I have taught you what a source is.
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Kobojunkie: 2:06am On Sep 23, 2009|
Very good observation!
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by ezeagu(m): 2:15am On Sep 23, 2009|
Do you know what a source is?
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 3:22am On Sep 23, 2009|
ezeagu you didnt post the full explanation for that map.
The one you posted was labelled before the Pleistocene
It was followed by another titled after the Pleistocene
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 3:24am On Sep 23, 2009|
in short, first in everything under the sun, right?
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Gamine(f): 3:34am On Sep 23, 2009|
Stop trying to play smart.
I advice that you meditate on what Morpheus24 posted,
Since you cannot give explanations on how Nigerians became Egyptians.
How many 'sources' are we gonna go through to finally fall upon
what you are trying to explain.
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by becomrich15: 2:36am On Oct 16, 2009|
I have gone thru this egyptian word. I search for them on the internet. I do not think the word are egyptian, I have tried to verify some of the word. and they do not look like egyptian world.
Please I need prove.
EGYPT - YORUBA
1. Wu (rise) - Wu (rise)
2. Ausa (Osiris, father of the gods) - Ausa (father)
3. Ere (python/ Serpent) - Ere (Python / Serpent)
4. Horise (a great god) - Orise (a great god)
5. Sen (group of worshippers) - Sen ( to worship)
6. Ged (to chant) - Igede (a chant)
7. Ta (sell / offer) - Ta (sell/offer)
8. Sueg (a fool) - Suegbe (a fool)
9. On ( living person) - One ( living person)
10. Kum (a club) - Kumo( a club)
11. Enru (fear / terrible) - Eru (fear / terrible
12. Kun / qun (brave man) - Ekun (title of a brave man)
13. Win (to be) - Wino (to be)
14. Odonit (festival) - Odon (festival)
15. Ma or mi (to breath) - Mi. (to breathe)
16. Tebu (a town) - Tebu (a town)
17. Adumu (a water god) - Adumu (a water god)
18. Khu (to kill) - Ku (die)
19. Rekha (knowledge) - Larikha (knowledge)
20 Hika (evil) - Ika (evil)
21 Mhebi (humble) - Mebi, humble to ones family
22 Sata (perfect) - Santan (perfect)
23 Unas (lake of fire) - Una (fire)
24 Tan (complete) - Tan (complete)
25 Beru (force of emotion) - Beru (fear)
26 Em (smell) - Emi (smell)
27 Pa (open) - Pa (break open)
28 Bi (to become) - Bi (to give birth, to become)
29 Hepi (a water god) - Ipi (a water god)
30 Sami (water god) - Sami (a water god)
31 Osiri (a water god) - Oshiri (a water god)
32 Heqet – Re (frog deity) - Ekere (the frog)
33 Feh (to go away) - Feh (to blow away)
34 Kot (build) - Ko (build)
35 Kot (boat) Oko (boat)
36 Omi (water) - Omi (water)
37 Ra (time) - Ira (time)
38 Oni (title of Osiris) - Oni (title of the king of Ife)
39 Budo (dwelling place) - Budo (dwelling place)
40 Dudu (black image of Osiris) - Dudu (black person)
41 Un (living person) - Una (living person)
42 Ra (possess) - Ra (possess/buy)
43 Beka (pray/confess) - Be or ka (to pray or confess)
44 Po (many) - Po (many/cheap)
45 Horuw (head) middle Egyptian - Oruwo (head) (Ijebu)
46 Min (a god) - Emin (spirit)
47 Ash (invocation) - Ashe (invocation)
48 Aru (mouth) - Arun (mouth ) Ilaje
49 Do (river) Odo (river)
50 Do (settlement) - Udo (settlement)
51 Shekiri (water god) - Shekiri (a water god)
52 Bu (a place) - Bu, a place
53 Khepara (beetle) - Akpakara (beetle)
54 No (a water god) - Eno (a water god)
55 Ra -Shu (light after darkness) - Uran-shu (the light of the moon)
56 Run-ka (spirit name) - Oruko (name)
57 Deb/dib to pierce - Dibi (to pierce)
58 Maat (goddess of justice) - Mate (goddess of justice)
59 Aru (rise) - Ru (rise up)
60 Fa (carry) - Fa (pull)
61 Kaf (pluck) - Ka (pluck)
62 Bu bi (evil place) - Bubi (evil place)
63 In- n (negation) - In-n (negation)
64 Iset (a water god) - Ise (a water god)
65 Shabu (watcher) - Ashonbo (watcher)
66 Semati (door keeper) - Sema (lock/shut the door)
67 Khenti amenti (big words of Osiris Yenti – yenti (big, very big)
68 Ma (to know) - Ma (to know)
69 Bebi, (a son of osiris) - Ube, a god
71 Ren( animal foot) - Ren (to walk)
72 Ka (rest) - Ka (rest/tired)
73 Mu (water) - Mu (drink water)
74 Abi (against) - Ubi (against / impediment)
75 Reti (to beseech) - Retin (to listen)
76 Hir (praise) - Yiri (praise)
77 Ta(spread out) - Ta (spread out)
78 Kurud (round) - Kurudu (round)
79 Ak – male - Ako (male)
80 Se – to create - Se (to create)
81 Hoo (rejoice) - Yo (rejoice)
82 Kamwr (black) - Kuru (extremely black)
83 Omitjener (deep water) - Omijen (deep water)
84 Nen, (the primeval water mother) - Nene (mother
85 Ta (land) - Ita (land junction)
86 Horiwo (head) - Oriwo (head)
87 Ro (talk) - Ro (to think)
88 Kurubu (round) Kurubu (deep and round)
89 Penka (divide) - Kpen (divide)
90 Ma-su (to mould) - Ma or su (to mould)
91 Osa (time) - Osa (time)
92 Osa (tide) - Osa ( tide)
93 Fare (wrap) - Fari (wrap)
94 Kom (complete) - Kon (complete)
95 Edjo (cobra) - Edjo (cobra)
96 Didi (red fruit) - Diden (red)
97 Ba (soul) - Oba (king) soul of a people
98 Ke (hill) - Oke (hill)
99 Anubis (evil deity) - Onubi (evil person)
100 Kan (one: Middle Egyptian) - Okan (one)
101 Nam (water god) - Inama (water god)
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by 9jaganja(m): 5:05am On Oct 16, 2009|
Oboy eeeeee!!!. Becomerich even though I love the fact that some of the words have similarities. I still don't think it's enough reason to say the great ones were Yorubas. Though Some historian said Oduduwa fled Egypt during a race or religious war, Yorubas have been existing before Oduduwa. History is twisted damn!!!!!!!!!!!
Whoever posted that rubbish map must be reading and believing the cracker's book. Even Caucasians would reject that kind of racial distribution map. Are you nuts to believe such map? You read it from Wikipedia? No wonder!!!! Anyone can edit wiki you know that? First off the first fully evolved human to ever existed was from Africa and I'm sure journey from wherever in Africa to North Africa can't be 4 generations long for the humans to have devolved into whites They keep bringing up cave men of thousands of years old when the artifacts have been found in Africa dating civilizations to as far back as 2.3billion years. Also Caucasians were the last piece of the puzzle of evolution and they came last in human history if it's not written by racists.
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 3:09pm On Oct 16, 2009|
Good. Keep it coming.
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Gamine(f): 2:22pm On Oct 17, 2009|
Yorubas are really Egyptians
and Igbos are Jews
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by ababda: 10:56am On Oct 31, 2009|
this is a very interesting argument. since being from the nile valley, and starting to study the history of the region. i am starting to realize one cannot mention egypt without mentioning the sudan, because they are practically part of the same whole in reference to history. so, i will relegate myself in saying nile valley civilization. because during ancient times egypt and sudan were one, and you had many cushitic pharaohs that ruled both countries at one time.
here is a pyramid in northern sudan and temple of soleb: the temple was built during the time of amenhopet and his nubian or cushite wife queen tiye. http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/Image/1443/Thumb/1443-871.jpg
here is the temple of "mut" on northern sudan every king in the new kingdom and later period had to be crowned here to legitmatize their rule, because the mountain have a pinnacle of a uraeus which signify kingdom. due to the fact that the cobra was kingship, so every pharaoh had to be crowned here to legimatize his rule, by the temple priets of amun, however that also applies to the temples in luxor as well.
i feel that the dominant class during the pharaonic era look like these people, this population you can find in northern sudan and upper egypt, they look like their ancestors. also take note even though many of these people might claim to be arab, they still practice many of the old pharonic and meroitic customs
note the guy in 3:51-3:52 looks like a dead ringer of king ramises
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by ababda: 11:16am On Oct 31, 2009|
one pyramid in northern sudan
soleb temple complex in northern sudan
temple of mut at jebal barkal mountain
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 9:27pm On Jan 06, 2010|
This is a nice job done, Ross,
I have become conscious of my history since going through this pieces and i'll go further to look for more. Hopefully, we can get our own people to have it written for us not an outsider.
But one thing for sure, there were lot of incidents relating to the old Egypt in the Bible so it should be a source of enormous information.
And dont forget King Solomon said he was deeply admired by the daughters of jerusalem because he's black.
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by paddylo1(m): 10:35pm On Jan 06, 2010|
good job rosskie. . .dont mind theseself hating negroes on here. . .
these are the same ppl that tell u the white man discovered the river niger. . .
even though blk ppl have been living there for hunreds of thousands of yrs. . .
nothing here should be too complicated. . .
the black man or african was the first human with a brain that can think and talk and survive by hunting and farming
this black man lived in africa and spread out for thousands of yrs. . .
before wondering out to other continents. . first to asia,then australia. . .and europe. . .
so why is it so hard to understand that ancient egypt was black?
perhaps its the inability to understand the dates involved. . .
well ancient egyptians began to appear around 6000BC. . .
whearas rome and greece city states did not appear until 400bc. . .
thats more than 5000yrs later. . .
so why the ambiguity?. . .and reluctance to accept our history
even the white man has told u that he comes from black africans
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Horus(m): 11:32pm On Jan 06, 2010|
Maiherpri, Buried in Thebes, Valley of the Kings, New Kingdom 18th Dynasty, 1427-1392 B.C.
Maiherpri was buried in the sacred burial sites with other Egyptian kings in in Thebes, (Valley of the Kings).
On the picture, he is clearly woolly haired and dark skinned.
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Ije004: 5:34pm On Jan 19, 2010|
Amazing Thread, rarely seen artefacts, except the Caucasian - looking ones shown in the media.
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by morpheus24: 5:51pm On Jan 19, 2010|
This should be moved to the Racist tribalist section. I have a lot of refernces that support Rossikes studies
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Ije004: 5:55pm On Jan 19, 2010|
Check this out:
Granite head of Amenhotep III 18th Dynasty
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Ije004: 6:07pm On Jan 19, 2010|
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 4:00am On Jan 22, 2010|
Great thread. Thanks for the contributions, guys and girls.
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Diasporic: 9:40pm On Jan 31, 2010|
Good to see people with their eyes open, about 95% of our people here in the U.S. are brainwashed beyond belief.
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by PrinceOzo: 3:33am On Mar 23, 2010|
If the Yorubas' and other Black Africans' original homeland was the Nile Valley, and that same valley was the original primal birthplace of Western Civilization (and arguably all human civilization), then according to a logical progression of these facts and thought it's not hard to believe, however fantastic, that a European mariner who made contact with Yoruboid West Africa had the following comments to make,
(Captain Richard Burton visited the Nigeria region in 1862. He was most puzzled by the architecture he witnessed because:
"It is impossible to think that Yoruba [sic] in ancient times derived its architecture through the Romans, whose conquests in Northern Africa were as extensive as in North Europe. We find in every [Yoruba] house a Tuscan atrium, with a cavaedium or gangway running round the rectangular impluvium, the tank or piscine which catches the rain and drippings railing through the compluvium or central opening in the roof. Sometimes the atrium is a tetrastyle in which pillars at the four corners of the impluvium support girders or main beams of the roof."
Burton further informs us that the royal palace "is supposed to contain not less that 15,000 souls". This data corroborates both Blomert, who suggested that the palace was the same size as the Dutch city of Harlem. Another traveller, Joshua Utzheimer, writing in 1603, suggested that the royal palace was "about the size of the [German] city of Tubingen".
These days, scholars no longer claim Roman influence on Benin or Yoruba architecture. However, the fact that Benin City was compared to the Roman city of Pompeii does prove that they were comparable. This indicates the high standard of Benin architecture and shows that it is every bit as impressive as its art.)
, such a profound observation deserves at least passing mention in even Western public curriculum, however, due to a highly concerted effort by SOME fearful and jealous members of the White West this prodigious fact about West Africa has eluded the notice of the vast majority of those who would ignorantly/naively hold to that antiquated and incohesive "theory" of the Black man's inferiority,
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Gamine(f): 9:55pm On Oct 30, 2010|
Still so much to be learnt. . .
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by TewMuch: 11:56pm On Oct 30, 2010|
Hmm, i am the most skeptical about this Yoruba-Egypt link but i have to admit that there are some similarities. Especially in the translations posted by the OP. This article says a lot as well. I guess something bad must have happened for them to run that far. Plus i dont think the geography was the same then and now, so it may not have been that crazy of a journey. The pictures ROSSIKE posted are very crazy, all of them Yoruboid everyday looks. Dont mean to be a skeptic but more proof is needed.
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by IG: 12:33am On Dec 05, 2010|
The Egyptians themselves say it
check out the video here
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 2:08am On Dec 05, 2010|
IG, thanks for that video.
Nothing like hearing the truth from the horse's mouth.
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Tochi3(m): 3:06am On Dec 05, 2010|
I have read '' The Destruction Of Black Civilisation'' By Chancellor Williams and I must say it is a book that explains our history.
Thank you ROSSIKE.
|Re: Tomb Art From Ancient Egypt: A Black African Civilization (pics) by Nobody: 3:50am On Dec 05, 2010|
To-chi, I really have to congratulate you on this. Not many Nigerians have read The Destruction of Black Civilization
I cannot commend the author of this work highly enough. The late African-American historian and anthropologist, Dr Chancellor Williams spent 16 years of his life in Africa, travelling to over 25 countries, delving into remote regions untouched by any other historians, speaking to long forgotten elders and griots who hold the continent's history in their palms, waiting to be asked.
Williams tells of long forgotten heroes of the black world, people like the mighty Queen Nzinga of Angola, who held back the Portuguese takeover of south central Africa for over 40 years, leading her troops to battle FROM THE FRONT in decades' long resistance.
For the Portuguese, avoiding the vast stretches of land and territory controlled by Queen Nzinga and her troops was the beginning of wisdom, such was the ferocity with which they were repelled.
Williams tells us of the glorious city of Thebes, (or[i] Nowe[/i]) in southern Egypt. The capital of the ancient black world.
Thebes was the pride of the black world in antiquity. It's scholars, artisans, architects, scientists, priests, and mathematicians, led the world in progress and civilization for 2,000 years.
Thebes was the heartbeat of the pharaonic dynasties. It was the ruling capital of ancient Egypt during its most dominant eras, beginning with the Old Kingdom 4500 years ago, and is home to two of its most revered temples at Karnak and Luxor. Most of Egypt’s rulers are buried nearby in the famous Valley of the Kings.
In the words of Williams, ''Let us not forget the central fact about Thebes, not even for a moment. For if the blacks had never left a single record of their past greatness, that record would still stand, defying time, in the deathless stones of Thebes, of her fallen columns from temples, monuments, and her pyramids; a city more eternal than Rome because its foundation was laid before the dawn of history, and its plan was that copied by other cities of the world. If the blacks of today want to measure the distance to the heights from which they have fallen, they need go no further than Nowe (Thebes).''
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