Muafrika2:

Really?

A covenant is an agreement that involves oath taking. Abraham is the person that with God, made a covenant. He was NOT the covenant.

The covenant was for his inheritance of Canaanites, which is why Michael descended on Jericho and all related Canaan cities with a blood bath. So Abraham's covenant is spent. Especially with Christ coming. He brokered a new covenant. New promises for the saints, and an inheritance of the principalities of all the earth. It's also open to more people, including rebellious ones like you. It's better, will be bloody very soon.

I hope I was clear enough.

Muafrika2:
Yes.

And I repeat the answer. .. again



I'll keep repeating for as long as you pretend to be dumb. I've got all the time

ValentineMary:

Waw. So God gives short term covenants. Yet he is the same yesterday, today and forever.

Gombs:


You should go back to Sunday School.

See how you're embarrassing yourself. That God's covenant with Abraham is spent.

Thanks for your time.


Cheers

Muafrika2:


These two parts of your sentence sound funny together.

ValentineMary:

Because I brought out the contradiction in ur bible abi?

Muafrika2:

What's contradictory?

What's the relation about God being the same person and him making covenants with two of his children? I think it actually shows consistency. He deals with covenants.

I honestly feel xtians have an inborn trait not to be logical.

U are asking how does a covenant that changes affect the notion of a non changing God? Are u for real

ValentineMary:

I honestly feel xtians have an inborn trait not to be logical.

U are asking how does a covenant that changes affect the notion of a non changing God? Are u for real

Muafrika2:

Did u miss the part about the covenants being two, to two different people? Rhetorical question.

You just have a list of unreasonable points to make that you are forcing into issues here. So you want me to say God changed? I am trying hard to find your point.

Gombs:



You're the one being really ignorant. No doubt Jesus ushered in a new covenant, which I tried telling replaced the old one. However, both the old and new were ad a result of the one God had with Abraham.

You came here and said Abraham’s covenant is spent already, and Jesus was doing negotiations for us (I asked with who).

In simple English... Did God enter a covenant with Jesus? You seemingly are clueless about this... But anyways, the thread is simply saying you don't have a covenant with God... If you do, kindly let me know when and how.

Until then... Keep wallowing in ignorance.

Gombs:
[size=18pt]We’re Children Of The Covenant [/size]

Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed (Acts 3:25).

One Bible character that’s been very popular and important through the ages is Abraham. What made him so relevant in God’s scheme of things? It’s the covenant God made with him. Abraham was God’s covenant friend. Now, I know there’re Christians who say they have a covenant with God. No, you don’t have any covenant with God. Abraham had a covenant with God, [size=18pt][b]but we’re not in that covenant.[/size] Who are we?

We’re the seed of Abraham: “For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise” (Galatians 3:26-29).

As Abraham’s seed, we’re the children of the covenant that God had with him. This is really amazing! Let me illustrate further. Imagine a husband and his wife in a marriage covenant. Would their child or children be part of their covenant? Absolutely not! Their child would be the product of the covenant.

Books have been written about our covenant with God, but really, we’re not in covenant with God. The danger of this misleading teaching is that while praying and trying to get results on the basis that you’re in covenant with God, you’re merely trying to get what you already have. And you’ll never get it that way. There’re things people pray and struggle for that shouldn’t be, if only they knew who they are, and their positioning in Christ. We’re [size=18pt]children[/size] of the covenant!

https://www.nairaland.com/393253/rhapsody-realities-daily-devotional/53#48349122

ValentineMary:

Do u know how improbable genetically for Abraham to be ur father?

ValentineMary:

An omniscient being choose Abraham as a covenant and later found out he was not good enough

In case u did not noticed, u just mocked ur God's intelligence.

ValentineMary:

Waw. So God gives short term covenants. Yet he is the same yesterday, today and forever.

Gombs:


You should go back to Sunday School.

See how you're embarrassing yourself. That God's covenant with Abraham is spent.

Thanks for your time.


Cheers

Muafrika2:


You are working hard to make Christ's role in salvation diminished. That's why you are more combative than this atheist. You are no different. That's why I have no respect for your doctrine and your teacher. Insult me. I'll still gladly challenge your subtle deception.

ValentineMary:

Because I brought out the contradiction in ur bible abi?

Muafrika2:

What's contradictory?

What's the relation about God being the same person and him making covenants with two of his children? I think it actually shows consistency. He deals with covenants.

ValentineMary:

I honestly feel xtians have an inborn trait not to be logical.

U are asking how does a covenant that changes affect the notion of a non changing God? Are u for real

Gombs:



You're the one being really ignorant. No doubt Jesus ushered in a new covenant, which I tried telling replaced the old one. However, both the old and new were ad a result of the one God had with Abraham.

You came here and said Abraham’s covenant is spent already, and Jesus was doing negotiations for us (I asked with who).

In simple English... Did God enter a covenant with Jesus? You seemingly are clueless about this... But anyways, the thread is simply saying you don't have a covenant with God... If you do, kindly let me know when and how.

Until then... Keep wallowing in ignorance.

petra1:

@Gombs ,

The new covenant by the blood of christ is between who and who?

promise10:

Please, stop this nonsense and know that God is logical!

Stop this, even if your logics fails. There are people who logically understands how our relationship with God is.

promise10:

Old and new are products of abrahamic covenant.
The difference btw old and new is that the old was conditional via keeping of the law. In the new, the old was renewed by the abolishing of the law which made our dividend an UNCONDITIONAL one.
Under the law, it was conditional, under grace it was conditional.

promise10:

Please stop!

You have to understand what abrahamic covenant is and christ's role towards salvation.

God had a covenant with abraham, and not Jesus. As Jesus is the incarnate son of God.

But, bro you are really messing things up, and that atheist is here making fun of you.

Bro, wake up and start reading your bible!

Muafrika2:



You're the girl who never refers to scripture. Nice to have you back. But I know where this discussion is going. At least an atheist can misquote a bit of scripture.

Muafrika2:

Promise, sit out this one.

Where do you even get these statements that you generously throw around.

promise10:

That's why I said you should start reading your bible.

promise10:

Lol, this guy you must be kidding.

Anyway, I am not a girl.

This is kinda funny to me.

Muafrika2:

Let's forget this bible reading thing.





Then you must have a twin. But why does your name sound so girly?

Muafrika2:

Let's forget this bible reading thing.





Then you must have a twin. But why does your name sound so girly?

KingEbukasBlog:

promise10:

Lol

We don't have to forget the bible reading thing because it is our bone of contention.

Muafrika2:

It's no use. I'll just ask you to substantiate all the points you've made with scripture, to which you will respond with more unsubstantiated statement and exclamations. And it will be a vicious cycle. We've done this before