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Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by oduastates: 2:30pm On Aug 22, 2016
divinelove:
farming should be optional and a matter of interest, the policy was ill concieved and lacks merits. instead of using workers y not use unemployed youth nw here is y d Governor was planning to slash workers salaries as soon as they embrace the idea by over 50% angry angry angry angry angry Rochas is a rogue

Farming is optional.the civil service job is optional as well.
Reducing working hours is alternative to layoffs.
Even with all the corruption and political appointees, A state that cannot pay her employees simply has too many of them.
If the people cannot pay the taxes needed to fund their salaries, then they are indirectly saying that they do not want them.

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Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by daniella04: 2:32pm On Aug 22, 2016
venom13:
Indian and Chinese Companies treat Nigeria citizens as slaves the almighty NLC will not fight for us, private companies will sack staff without a meaningful explanation NLC will not say anything.

But Government is trying to create jobs for millions of Nigerians NLC came out talking rubbish
The NLC is right on this, why will the civil servants suffer because of some governors wastefulness. The governors should start by reducing their own salary and allowance then they will be taken serious

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Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by ironheart(m): 2:43pm On Aug 22, 2016
kabrud:

I just tire o! People must just oppose the govt. Could remember when CBN tagged some items 'obslolete' and decided to auction them at ridiculously low price to the low cadre staff (a functional deep freezer was sold at #50) some members of staff were just complaining upandan that they should have been given money to buy new ones as if seperate provision was made for the purchase of household items for staff. These items were bought brand new and these are the people that will still go to the market searching for tokumbo items even if they are given money for brand new ones. Meanwhile, this was done at the initiative of the Zonal Controller and they still bought as much as they could get. SMH.
this is the kind of country we find ourselves. you have said the very mindset of our people. we are just too lazy. i work in the private sector. i am waiting for them to give me such opportunity and you will see how i will embrace it with hands legs and even d***. May we all see the light i pray
Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by Guyman02: 3:00pm On Aug 22, 2016
coalcoal1:
Agriculture is NOT the magic solution
August 21 2016 by Simon Kolawole

Okay, let us talk about Cote d’Ivoire’s fabled cocoa wealth. Cote d’Ivoire produces 33% of world cocoa and exports to manufacturers such as Hershey’s, Mars Inc. (both in the US) and Nestlé (Switzerland). You know what Cote d’Ivoire earns yearly from exporting raw cocoa? A whopping $2.5bn. I repeat: a whopping $2.5bn! So Mars buys Ivorien cocoa and makes several products from it: Bounty, M&M, Mars and Milky Way, to name a few. You know Mars’ net income from chocolate products alone in 2015? According to the International Cocoa Organisation (ICCO), Mars made a pathetic $18bn, compared to Cote d’Ivoire’s whopping $2.5bn. Agriculture, indeed.

https://www.thecable.ng/agriculture-not-magic-solution

This portion of the article is the key reason why Laurent Gbagbo was overthrown by French forces under a dubious UN mandate as Ivorian president and some stupid Africans (including GEJ the peacemaker) cheered that it was for democracy even when Outarra did not win the election because he wanted Ivory Coast to control their cocoa.

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Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by Guyman02: 4:02pm On Aug 22, 2016
AllTheWayUp:
Rochas Okorocha the mad man started this fake forced farming , because he couldn't pay civil servants, he told them to work for Monday to Wedensday and thus their monthly salaries will only cover Monday to Wedensday for every month,

He has diverted Imo State monthly allocations, no wonder ghost is slapping him , he is in India as we speak, seeking spiritual treatment.

Beer parlour rumour of ghost slapping Rochas, the man is abroad having fun with his grandchildren grin
Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by Ferdinandu(m): 4:07pm On Aug 22, 2016
Silly NLC. Did they say that they are reducing salary. Everybody knows that 90% of civil servants in the country are just jobless Individuals eating from government coffers for doing nothing. The farm output of every individual is for you and not for government. So why the noise, if you don't want to farm on those days you sleep in your house, it is not somebody that will wake you when hunger came knocking.
Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by oluseguntemi: 4:08pm On Aug 22, 2016
Emi a n tori e ku ti ni je opo( Goverment are saying that they want to release you out of slavery so that you can make income your self and your salaries will still continue but u said u like it that way, besides u av more option aside farming.
Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by Ohonba(m): 4:38pm On Aug 22, 2016
Sorry I am not getting it, if they go to farm, are they going to give it out free, but its just another way of creating economic activities na. will the civil servant buy from the market what they can harvest from their farms....its another way to save money.. lets think outside the box... this labour self. make una dey fight good fight na.
Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by Henrichemeka(m): 5:04pm On Aug 22, 2016
That is what happens when you follow a change you dont know and have not seen before.
Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by Cooldude68(m): 5:43pm On Aug 22, 2016
As if NLC really cares...
Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by seniwellsFX: 6:07pm On Aug 22, 2016
coalcoal1:
Agriculture is NOT the magic solution
August 21 2016 by Simon Kolawole
Anytime I hear Nigerian presidents, ministers, governors, economists, analysts and commentators declare that agriculture is the alternative to oil, and that the solution to Nigeria’s economic woes is to return to the farm, I am tempted to jump up and ask at full volume: “Who agriculture alone don epp?” Some states have hilariously declared work-free days for civil servants to go to the farm. It would be nice to see those farms and how well the emergency farmers are doing. We’ve been told again and again that agriculture, as Nigeria’s biggest employer of labour, is the magic solution to unemployment, that we will export agricultural produce and earn plenty forex. Well done.
I’ve been hearing this fairy-tale all my life. When I was a primary school kid, Lt. Gen. Olusegun Obasanjo, then head of state, asked Nigerians to tighten their belts because the oil boom would not last forever. He added drama by tightening his military belt on TV. He launched Operation Feed the Nation. My grandfather responded by setting up a garden in our backyard. President Shehu Shagari did Green Revolution. The structural adjustment programme (SAP) of Gen. Ibrahim Babangida was basically about diversifying into agriculture. In different shapes, forms, sizes and packaging, we have been talking about agriculture, agriculture and agriculture forever.
Since we love glamorising our exploits in the export of cocoa, coffee, palm oil and groundnuts before the oil boom doom, I will pick on just cocoa to dispel this ill-conceived notion and never-ending campaign that agriculture is the magic wand. We used to be the biggest producers of cocoa in the world. Chief Obafemi Awolowo utilised cocoa revenue to develop the south-west when he was premier of the region in the 1950s. But we dropped the ball along the line and Cote d’Ivoire overtook us. And now we are lamenting that we are nowhere to be found. The solution, therefore, is for the south-west to revive the cocoa farms. Oh, the good old days!
Okay, let us talk about Cote d’Ivoire’s fabled cocoa wealth. Cote d’Ivoire produces 33% of world cocoa and exports to manufacturers such as Hershey’s, Mars Inc. (both in the US) and Nestlé (Switzerland). You know what Cote d’Ivoire earns yearly from exporting raw cocoa? A whopping $2.5bn. I repeat: a whopping $2.5bn! So Mars buys Ivorien cocoa and makes several products from it: Bounty, M&M, Mars and Milky Way, to name a few. You know Mars’ net income from chocolate products alone in 2015? According to the International Cocoa Organisation (ICCO), Mars made a pathetic $18bn, compared to Cote d’Ivoire’s whopping $2.5bn. Agriculture, indeed.
If you are wondering how just one company, which manufactures chocolate, can earn seven times more than a whole country, which farms and exports the cocoa input, then you are asking the same question with me: Who agriculture alone don epp? On ICCO’s list of the world’s top 10 companies in net revenue from chocolate, you have three from America, two from Japan, two from Switzerland, and one each from Luxemburg/Italy, Argentina and Turkey. None from Cote d’Ivoire, Ghana and Indonesia — the world’s three biggest producers of raw cocoa. There must be something that Hershey’s, Mars and Nestlé know that we don’t know as we keep planting cocoa.
To be fair, Cote d’Ivoire is waking up. In 2015, French chocolatier Cémoi opened a plant in Abidjan, the economic capital, to produce chocolate. President Alassane Ouattara, on touring the plant, said: “We want to be able to make chocolate for Ivoriens, for Africans and especially West Africans.” Ouattara (pronounced Wa-ta-ra) understands what we still don’t understand here: that agriculture without industry is dead, being alone. How could I buy cocoa worth $1m from you and make chocolate worth $10 million from it — and you think you are smart? If you are smart, you will start making the chocolate yourself and stop romanticising about the “good old days”.
There was a video that went viral sometime ago. CNN’s Richard Quest visited a cocoa farm in Cote d’Ivoire. Come and see poverty written all over the faces of the farmers, who have been told for decades that agriculture is the magic solution to their problems. Quest gave the farmers bars of chocolate. They were eating the sweet stuff for the first time in their lives! Compare their lives to those of the executives of Mars Inc., who buy the cocoa beans from Cote d’Ivoire. They are flying private jets and holidaying in the moon, while the Ivorien farmers are fighting off flies and bees in the bushes of Koffikro. For your information, Mars Inc. has no cocoa farms!
Don’t get me wrong please. If I have created the impression that agriculture is useless, I do apologise. That is not my intention. After all, agriculture is our culture. Millions of Nigerians are farming rice, beans, cassava and corn. That is huge employment. Also, we certainly can produce many food items that we are importing and burning precious forex on. But is that why governors are declaring work-free days for civil servants to go and plant melon and maize to solve Nigeria’s economic problem and stop the dependency on oil? If only these governors knew that Switzerland does not grow one tree of cocoa, yet makes the world’s most elegant chocolates!
Let us break this whole agric logic into pieces. If we really want to diversify from oil and create proper value, agriculture must give birth to industry. If agriculture currently employs, say, 5 million Nigerians, agro-allied industry can employ 15 million in the value chain. So why do we spend so much time discussing farming and not industry? For example, how many graduates can a tomato farm employ compared to a factory making tomato purée? The factory will employ or engage the services of engineers, technicians, chemists, marketers, accountants, communicators, lawyers, administrators, drivers, and so on. It may even have a sick bay and employ doctors and nurses.
I’m not done. A basket of tomatoes sells for N800 in Kaduna. A 400g tin of purée sells for N300. Look at how many bottles of purée you can get from a basket, and how much value you will be getting. Who, then, is making the real money? The factory will pay company tax, its employees will pay PAYE and the consumers will pay VAT. That is how government will boost its revenue. The purée bottle makers offer a different business altogether that employs workers and pays all kinds of taxes too. And if we are good enough, we can begin to export purée to other countries, and earn forex. This is just purée. Think of a thousand agro-allied factories. Think of our huge population.
Sure, agriculture is very important in a primitive economy like ours. But we always miss the bigger picture. One, we need full optimisation of the sector to enhance productivity. A country like the US knows this much better: the percentage of the population engaged in farming is insignificant, but it is so optimised that the output is out of this world. For instance, the US produces enough rice for local consumption, for export, for aid and to dump in the sea to “stabilise” market prices. Two, processing is where you find the massive job opportunities. The agro-industry will yield far more output, more jobs and more economic value than Benue Friday Farming.
These things look so simple and doable, but commonsense is not common. Our agricultural output can be far better in quantity and quality than currently obtains. We can do with better technology, storage, conditioning, packaging and transportation. Most importantly, our brains should focus on how industry can bring out the real value of agriculture and spark off a chain of economic activities that will create millions of good jobs and generate billions of dollars in revenue to investors, employees and government. But we seem excited only about preaching and promoting the export of raw produce, and we feel so smart we think this is the way out of our oil dependency!
But how can we add value when, despite the billions of dollars we have made from oil since 1999, we don’t have the basic infrastructure to inspire an agro-based industrial explosion? Where are the roads? Where are the rails? Where is the electricity? Where is the security? Where is the finance? Yet I can point to uncountable private jets, mansions and customised cars that politicians and their friends have acquired since 1999 with proceeds from the oil boom — while they keep preaching stone-age agriculture to Nigerians. So if your governor joins this craze of declaring work-free days for primitive farming, just ask him politely: Your Excellency, who agriculture alone don epp?
https://www.thecable.ng/agriculture-not-magic-solution
. excellent analysis mr coalcoal1. i respect your recommendations. if only our vissionless leaders will see this. i feel happy coming across intellectual analysis and presentions on issues affecting nigeria. thanks.
Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by Abagworo(m): 6:39pm On Aug 22, 2016
ironheart:
lazy sets of workers, they are giving you opportunity to make extra income and you do not want it.

The thing tire me. Many of them have other businesses and barely report to work until time for salary payment. IMHO the idea is very good as long as there is no salary cuts at the moment or near future.
Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by ironheart(m): 6:41pm On Aug 22, 2016
Abagworo:


The thing tire me. Many of them have other businesses and barely report to work until time for salary payment. IMHO the idea is very good as long as there is no salary cuts at the moment or near future.
very true
Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by nkechiben(f): 1:20pm On Aug 23, 2016
Wait!

Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by Kexorcist(m): 9:31am On Aug 24, 2016
Romania and Venezuela reply: LOL, that's what they told us, not that we cared.
Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by mikolo80: 3:19am On Apr 05, 2017
lytech1:
Confused administration...

Can't they employ some set of unemployed citizen to fill the void of farming and use the medium to create employment?


I doubt the hope of common man in this country
so civil servants should just be collecting salary without working?
Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by mikolo80: 3:20am On Apr 05, 2017
chernest2002:
Apc wants all power in order to dictate and control the people anyhow they want.
all parties want same. it's up to you to decide whether to give them or not
Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by lytech1(m): 7:31pm On Apr 05, 2017
mikolo80:
so civil servants should just be collecting salary without working?
so they are employed to be a farmer?
Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by mikolo80: 5:12am On Apr 06, 2017
lytech1:

so they are employed to be a farmer?
so you will be paying your employee for doing nothing when there is work to do and no money to pay new workers. are you thinking at all.it is your money that they are collecting for doing nothing.if they sack all of them is it not farm they will return to.
Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by lytech1(m): 7:18am On Apr 06, 2017
mikolo80:
so you will be paying your employee for doing nothing when there is work to do and no money to pay new workers. are you thinking at all.it is your money that they are collecting for doing nothing.if they sack all of them is it not farm they will return to.
and who told you they are doing nothing....
If truely they are doing nothing,why were they employed in the first place...
Though they might have less work to do in their offices due to division of labour,bt they are employed for a purpose..
If they were now ask to leave their offices and go to farm...when the time comes for them to carry out their duties in the office.. Who will do that? You or me?
Re: You Cannot Force Workers Into Farming, Labour Tells Govs by mikolo80: 4:14pm On Apr 06, 2017
lytech1:

and who told you they are doing nothing....
If truely they are doing nothing,why were they employed in the first place...
Though they might have less work to do in their offices due to division of labour,bt they are employed for a purpose..
If they were now ask to leave their offices and go to farm...when the time comes for them to carry out their duties in the office.. Who will do that? You or me?
I don't think you've ever had any reason to visit secretariat, court or any public office. why you're talking like this. I just sent someone to iseyin to arrange land for farm and the director, director, director of lands said he should come back tmrw from Ibadan (3 hrs drive) notwithstanding the cost of inconvenience. this is after being directed by the director director director of land acquisition who refused to give phone number saying u we should suffer since we are the ones in need of land and not her.

so their block head didn't realise that it is cheaper for the client to call first to confirm when oga at the top will be no seat.
their block head could delegate such minor task to another jobless public officer who were just gisting in the office.
Abeg make i hear word.
this is just one example o
I have plenty.
runs encouraging laziness.

those taxes can be put to better use

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