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Re: 11111 by Weah96: 1:08pm On Aug 25, 2016
exmuslim1:
Bruh, God is real. As real as you and me.

What does it (God) look like?

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Re: 11111 by Peritus(m): 1:24pm On Aug 25, 2016
exmuslim1:
Bruh, God is real. As real as you and me. But religions, pfft, it's all cooked up, tribal and political. Do you in fact know that radical Catholics existed and still do in small numbers. These people massacred and killed innocent people in name of "fighting for the church". The then Popes are just as guilty as the idiot Muslim Caliphates of today. You see, it's all political. Turkey's Ottoman empire, Romania's Wallachia resistance. Dracula- The man is actually not what is being portrayed in books and movies.
This is where the problem lies. Religion is manmade that is why it is possible to be fraught with such. Many acclaimed men of God have been grappling with understanding the supernatural withing the context of their individual supposition of what God ought to be, while seeing themselves as mini-gods. That doesn't mean that there are no true men of God. A good many of them abound.

True worship is divine. Christianity ought not be religion, it is a spiritual offshoot of Judaism. It is a covenant of true and spiritual worship characterised by indwelling of God and personal encounter with him. Now, you don't need a man of God to know God. You don't even need a church. Church is there to guide u, and not a condition for knowing God.

Create a personal relationship with him and he will be, not just your God or Father, but a good and reliable friend. You seek direction from him whenever u will.

Take for instance: my former office has been searching for a customer's title documents I filed long time ago but couldn't find same. They called me this morning to ask. I couldn't even remember the customer's name or what I filed. I asked God to direct me. He directed me on what to do. I did and discovered the document was registered in another person's name. I called them, and they found it.

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Re: 11111 by exmuslim1: 1:27pm On Aug 25, 2016
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Re: 11111 by exmuslim1: 1:34pm On Aug 25, 2016
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Re: 11111 by Pidggin(f): 2:08pm On Aug 25, 2016
It seems you've moved from frying pan to fire. Is black magic better than Islam? You need to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior

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Re: 11111 by Weah96: 2:36pm On Aug 25, 2016
exmuslim1:
Eeyah. It's like you don't know the difference between magic and tricks. Man, I'd like to witness the look on your face when you see pure water being set on fire.

Google search " light water on fire." There's tons of videos on Youtube.
Re: 11111 by exmuslim1: 2:55pm On Aug 25, 2016
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Re: 11111 by Nobody: 4:13pm On Aug 25, 2016
Interesting. Very interesting.
Re: 11111 by vikkeee(m): 4:13pm On Aug 25, 2016
This is really eye opening
Re: 11111 by Weah96: 4:26pm On Aug 25, 2016
exmuslim1:
Jeez. Did you fetch the water for them? Do you what's in those water? Stop believing camera tricks.

Will I know what's in the demonstration water? Or didn't your native doctor bring his own water to set ablaze?

I've seen a man remove his tongue. But I didn't touch the knife or examine the mouth after the fact. He didn't appear to be in pain, so I immediately dismissed the gimmick. Nice show though. I definitely will pay again.

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Re: 11111 by CHARLOE(m): 5:39pm On Aug 25, 2016
Wow! Another nail on d coffin of religion, dis time, Islam. @ op, ur story is as revealing as its compelling, kudos. Wish most of our northern almajiri cld read.
My joy in all of these is dat d eyes of d Blackman (xtians n muslims) is opening gradually, d scales are beginning to fall off.

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Re: 11111 by tartar9(m): 5:55pm On Aug 25, 2016
Time registered : August 25, 2016
truthman2012 is this you sad

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Re: 11111 by donnffd(m): 6:40pm On Aug 25, 2016
This is obviously a lie...brought dead pigeon to life, where did u get the ram blood?, you bought a ram so u can test wit ur little brother? Where did u learn d incantations from?...

You just make lots of claims and expect someone to believe just like that?
Re: 11111 by DRwiz(m): 7:27pm On Aug 25, 2016
Wow. This is rather strong

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Re: 11111 by exmuslim1: 9:03pm On Aug 25, 2016
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Re: 11111 by Chubhie: 9:41pm On Aug 25, 2016
Peritus:
Have you asked God to reveal to you what He wants of you? Trust me, you may never get satisfied or found solace until you know him personally.
Since you believe in God, ask him to show you the way, and trust me he will.
There are so many portals and channels to the spiritual realm, most of which are negative portals. So don't marvel when you behold spiritual forces defying the mundane.
I agree with you brother.One can access the spiritual realm through fasting and praying for it.

The spiritual realm is such a treacherous terrain for the dabblers and ungrounded uninitiated. The young man is experimenting with forces capable of consuming him if not cautioned.

Even the secret of Jesus was through fasting and prayers to which every one willing to put in the dedication and work can access. I'm still baffled how today's Christians has failed to be Christ like.
Re: 11111 by Chubhie: 9:54pm On Aug 25, 2016
exmuslim1:
Nice reasoning. But no i didn't buy a ram, the poor salah ram took the fall. Doesn't matter if it's from the market or home, the blood mattered. And no, i don't expect you to believe me. I'm out of that religion for good.
Organised religion is a tool to control minds. Spirituality is liberating. Caution must be applied cos a lot of spiritual entities are looking for human agents to serve one agenda or the other.

Use such accessed powers for the greatest good and not for evil. Justice and hierarchies exits also in the spiritual realm. Jesus can serve as your fantastic example.

Seun, you wan try some?

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Re: 11111 by analice107: 10:21pm On Aug 25, 2016
exmuslim1:
Lol. The bird is alive isn't it? And if you're so concerned about animal lives, how many rams have had their head cut off in the name of Salah and how many Turkeys and Chickens have you fried for Christmas. I'm not fetish, nor have i taken to ritual practices. I needed to prove a point, and i did. I believe in God, I strongly do but not in any religion whatsoever.
Reading you is almost like reading Ali Sina, also an ex Muslim. you should visit his site.
www.faithfreedom.org or www.alisina.org.
Re: 11111 by analice107: 10:30pm On Aug 25, 2016
AnonyNymous:
Interesting. Very interesting.
No be small thing oo
Re: 11111 by analice107: 10:33pm On Aug 25, 2016
tartar9:
Time registered : August 25, 2016
truthman2012 is this you sad
hahahahahahahahaaha. tartar is back. Who let the dog out?

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Re: 11111 by plappville(f): 11:22pm On Aug 25, 2016
exmuslim1:
I feel bolder. I feel free. I’ve never thought of myself a coward. Neither have I ever felt my mind imprisoned.
I renounced Islam and as crazy as it sounds, I still can’t believe it. It’s funny when you eventually come to the realization that no one really knows the future. I’ve read about a lot of people repudiating Islam, and what did I say- ‘’I hope Allah guides them back to the righteous path’’. Little did I know it was just a matter of months before I followed in their footsteps. And I here I am, planning on changing my name and absolute dissociation from the Muslim community.
People renounce Islam for a lot of reasons- some do so to make peace with their conscience, some as a result of peer pressure and influence, some as a result of weak practise of the religion, some due to skepticism and some just for the sake of it. I’ve always had my differences with some perspectives of Islam and disagreed with part of the Quran. The Book has its flaws just like the numerous ‘’holy books’’ out there. But don’t get me wrong, I’m no Atheist and I strongly believe in the existence of God but will never get myself tangled in religioun politics and fanaticism again. From now on, I shall live by neutral moral codes and not by hadiths or whatever. I’m a theist now, I believe in God, but have no belief whatsoever in the doctrine of the Trinity nor any divine revelation.
I was born a Muslim and into a very religious home. I was taught the rudiments of Islam at a very young age and I adapted to the Islamic community effortlessly. I could fast a full Ramadan at the age of ten and memorisation of the Quran was no problem. But as faith and age grew, questions and doubts began to pop. I tried brushing them off my mind as I perceived them to be ‘’whispers of the devil’’, but apparently I couldn’t evade them forever and I started looking for answers simply to consolidate my faith and religion. I mean if the religion was right there would certainly be nothing incriminating to find. Boy was I wrong. We live in an era of corruption and lies- crooked politicians, crooked clergymen and crooked religions. Everyone claims their religion is the way, even factions of the same religion claim the other is wrong.
JUJU/MAGIC: First thing I did was to confirm the existence of supernatural forces and consciousness of the unseen. I got my hands on old Yoruba ‘’manuscripts’’, spell book, juju book or whatever you want to call it which was passed down by my great great grandfather who was a descendant of magicians and masqueraders. Apparently, Islam reared it’s ugly oblong head into the clan through my great grandfather. I began experimenting with forces outside the physical and natural realm. There was of course no error- it was real. And I think white people made a terrible mistake for not endeavouring to explore African secrets, their education has of course proved be very much reliable, but it’s their loss and our gain anyway. As ridiculous and farcical as it may sound, I could find out when someone was lying and it wasn’t through a polygraph machine lie detector test, as the machine is not 100% accurate and can be lied to anyway. All it takes is ten green, healthy and unperforated almond leaves (popularly known as fruit tree in Nigeria), the blade of a hoe (which has tasted the earth), a sizable rock or stone (part of the earth), a pod of alligator pepper and some incantation [It’s the utmost secret here, and I can’t reveal it]. This procedure requires two people (gender neutral), the right palm of both parties would be spread and forked into one another horizontally. The ten leaves would be arranged in two columns of five leaves. Then the leaves would be placed slightly on one another and pointing to each other at the same time such that the midribs (line or sort of backbone that runs through a leaf) touch one another, and connects them together. Then the stone and the hoe blade would be placed on it chronologically. Nine grains of alligator pepper would be chewed before the incantation is recited and the question one desires or seeks answer to will be asked. FICTIONAL CASE: Let’s say Femi can’t find his money, and he wants to know if any of his roommates Deji, Akpan, Chinedu or Hassan stole it. Let’s say Akpan stole it, when he performs the process on the others, he would have to say something like ‘’If Chinedu stole the money, let the leaves come loose. If Chinedu didn’t, let the leaves stick together’’. Since Chinedu didn’t, the leaves will come loose effortlessly when drawn (horizontally) apart. Now, when it’s Akpan’s turn (since he stole the money) and he performs the process, I don’t give a flying fvck about how muscular you are or the number of years you’ve been hitting the gym. When you draw the leaves, they won’t come apart. Be you Arnold Schwarzenegger, Dwayne Johnson or the two in one body, pfft, the leaves won’t! E fee fa ku. Una go draw tire.
Secondly, I prepared a bronze ring which required an owl, the elulu bird (don’t know it’s English name), some leaves and incisions on my ears, head and around my left ring finger. When it was ready I put it to test: I tore an A4 paper into 50 pieces and labelled it numbers 1 to 50. I called on my younger brother and told him to pick any number or numbers and not say it out and each time I kept getting it right. All I had to do was look at someone, and in a snap of fingers, I would know precisely what they were thinking as long as the ring was on my left ring finger. Nigerian pastors and Alfas use this power a lot, before you narrate your problems they tell it to you and claim it was revealed by divine power. Power koh, Empire ni.
With these two demonstrations I proved the Muslim God Allah and His Book wrong, for he said in the book of Hud verse 5: Behold! They may fold up their hearts, that they may lie hid from Him! Even when they cover themselves with their garments, He alone knows well the inmost secrets of the heart. [Book of Al-Qasas verse 69]: And your Lord alone knows all that their hearts conceal and all that they reveal.
And finally the big one, I prepared another ring, also bronze. It required soaking in the fresh blood of a ram for a week, a yard of white cloth and a box made precisely from the wood of an Iroko tree amongst other things [Can’t reveal all]. Some markings were made on the white cloth. When it was ready, I got a pigeon, killed it by taking the head clean off. Wrapped it with the marked cloth and placed it in the box. I recited the incantation and then opened the box, unwrapped the ‘’dead’’ pigeon and there it was- stained with blood, but more than alive and with the head intact. Some will say Musa performed this, some may think I’m arrogant and comparing myself to Allah. I’m but a human being who has beyond the lies. Pastors use powers similar to this in performing ‘’miracles’’. Allegedly, Jesus is long gone, any pastor performing miracles is a liar and is full of shit. With this act I proved Allah and His Book wrong again: ‘’He it is Who gives life and causes death. And when He decides upon a thing He only says to it: Be! And it is.’’
RACISM: Of all the Prophets of Allah in the Quran, only one man was chosen as a messenger but not ordained with Prophethood- Lukman. And don’t tell me it’s a simple coincidence that Lukman is in fact black. And if you try telling me about notable black people such as Bilal Ibn Rabah, I’ll send you slap through Bluetooth. Sounds like Arabs and their God have a problem with a prophet being black. Do you think if Christianity or Islam originated from Africa, anyone would believe it. Simply not, just because, well, we’re black. And if Mohammed was so pious a human, why couldn’t he do something as humane as stopping enslavement of blacks in stone-throw territories like Ethiopia. Mohammed in fact owned black slaves, in fact, he bought and sold them. It was business for him and there is proof of this in Ibn Qayyim Al-Jawiyya’s famous book Zad Al-Ma’ad page 160. Bilal Ibn Rabah was one of his slaves, not a disciple as alleged. Many Africans were stolen in their villages and auctioned off like animals, Arabs are just as guilty as Westerners in the exploitation of black. This same pious Mohammed said ‘’If you dreamed of a black woman, this is an evil omen’’. Abeg, I was black yesterday, I’m black today and I’ll be black tomorrow, does he expect me to dream about oyinbo girls? And the cherry on top of this embarrassing and disgusting sundae- The common Arabic word for black is ‘’Abd’’ which means ‘’Slave’’. They were allowed to have sex with black slaves who they considered ‘’animals’’ but the offspring were not considered legitimate and could be sold off as slaves, who does that? Along came these Semitic religions- Islam and Christianity, and we black grabbed them like poff-poff. And Oh, don’t forget the unending feud of the Yahud and Arabs. This is a religion which commands Muslims to kill Jews simply because it was, well, commanded. And could you imagine the then King of Saudi Arabia commended Adolf Hitler for killing the Jews. Jew or no Jew, over six million lives were lost and they showed no empathy whatsoever. I’m sure they must have provided backroom sponsorship for Hitler. They are always engaged in one religion politics or the other
BARBARIC/HONOUR KILLINGS: What kind of human buries another human alive and stones them to death. What kind of sick deranged fanatic sets her daughter on fire for not marrying some withered old pervert. What kind of brother strangles his own sister in the name of honour killing? These are few of the senseless practices still being executed by lost Muslim morons. About two years ago, I read about Boko Haram activities in their then claimed territories- A man was amputated for stealing food. Now, this simply shows the high level of stupidity and ignorance of these people, they claim they want to practise Islamic laws and the morons don’t even know the law. A man’s hand is directed to be cut off but there is in fact a compromise. If he steals trifle things like food, especially food, he gets to keep the food, he’s warned never to repeat such and then flogged. But if he steals items of worldly value like Gold, Cars and so on, only then should he be amputated. The illiterate Hausa fools have turned a foreign religion to a helmet and glued it to their head. I weep for Muslim Hausas and Somalis. I hope they later realise how much Usman Dan Fodio is a curse to them.
SCIENTIFIC FACTS/IMMORALITY/ABSURDITIES: This is the forte of many ex-Muslims and they’re numerous. Science has made us see the errors of the so called ‘’Holy Quran’’. Like seriously, sperm being produced in the backbone. Honey Bees eat fruits, really? Allah created all things in pairs (two mates), does the Almighty not know about Bacteria, Protista, Fungi and plants that reproduce asexually. The Quran claims the glands that produce milk is within the body of the cattle, mammary glands are in fact stored outside the body. Allah claims He’s the only one who knows what’s in the womb, please, it’s the 21st century. Gender and cardinality can be determined in minutes. Women are seen as sex objects and properties, they can be owned and disposed. Muslims could take ‘’sex slaves’’, not surprised ISIS are auctioning them off online, apparently their ring leader did the same. Quran approves of sex with pre-pubescent girls (Child Molestation). Quran approved of child marriage, and Hausas love this, as they love their goro. Quran approves of Husband beating his wife (Domestic Violence), they groom their sons as future fanatics. Quran approves of retaliation (Qisas), an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. Mohammed solicited his crazy fanatic warriors by promising the perverts virgin maidens in heaven, seriously? A woman’s testimony equals half of a man’s (Sexism and Discrimination). Mohammed molested Aisha when she was only six years old and had sex with her when she was nine. Mohammed captured many women and kept them as sex slaves. Beheaded his enemies and even a 13 year old jewish boy after pulling down his pants and inspecting his groin for pubic hair. Mohammed ordered the torture, murder and terrorization of non-Muslims, hence ISIS and Boko Haram. Assassinated people for insulting islam, hence Hausas and their senseless killings. Compared his black slaves to Satan.
SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY: Hmm, the zombie leaders. More grease to their elbows for the number of lives they’ve taken for speaking against them. You can’t blaspheme against their God and you can’t give your two cents or criticism of the ‘’royal family’’. Their swords are ever swift to take the head drug dealers, but Prince Nayef bin Fawaaz’s case was an exception. He’s still alive till date. In 2015, Prince Abdel Mohsen bin Walid was caught with 2 TONNES of cocaine loaded on his private jet, he was extradited home and the case was swept under the rug. Muslims should please educate me on equality in Islam. Have they also forgotten about the caution against opulence in Islam, Prince Talal in 2014 bought an A380 Airbus aeroplane [not even a jet] for $300m and spent $200m customizing it, was he sanctioned? It has spas, a parking space for his Rolls Royce, private entertainment sessions, marble floors and what not. Who was there to enforce the rules of Mohammed, not even the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia because they’re all hypocrites. They do whatever they like and spend the nation’s money however they want, but police and kill people whenever they speak out. Princess Misha’al was executed for not complying with arranged marriage. She was executed with a gunshot to her head in public, while her lover watched and then he was beheaded with a sword too. Prince Faisal threw a wild Halloween party which is of course deemed un-Islamic, alcoholic drinks were served, liquor and what not and nobody batted an eye, not even the Grand Mufti. And what about gay Prince Saud bin Abdulaziz who raped and beat his gay manservant to death in London. And what about Prince Abdulaziz bin Fahd the rapist. How many of these royal buffoons have been prosecuted? They are hypocrites who drink alcohol, do and sell drugs, rape, murder and yet walk freely simply because they have ‘’royal blood’’. They have little or no regard for the religion and yet people place Islam on their heads like gala. And what about Salman bin Abdulaziz and cohorts who have married more than 30 times even though Allah’s limit was four. They simply changed the rules and now claim you can be married to a limit of four women at a time. And after they grow tired of them, they divorce them and marry another set of fours and this continues until they die. Muslims, have you forgotten Allah’s strong words in Suratu Talaq in your Quran. I weep for you, and I hope your eyes and mind eventually see the truth.
I see the imminent breakout of World War 3, I see it as a religious war and I see Islam and Muslims as the public and common enemy. I would renounce the religion and my Muslim name before some psycho bludgeons me to death for being a Muslim. I’m a prodigal son of all religions now, but as biblical as your thoughts might be, I’m never coming back


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Waoh....could this be one of NL active Muslim who alway defend Islam atrocities? I suspect @Empiree. This person know much about the evil of Islam. Wonders shall never end. Oya where all the Abo.kis and yuroba Muslims. Come and read oo. Saudi Arabia has enslaved you for centuries. Its high time you renounce thier god. Dont die in your ignorance. grin

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Re: 11111 by plappville(f): 11:26pm On Aug 25, 2016
tartar9:
Time registered : August 25, 2016

truthman2012 is this you sad

You didnt read the part how Muhammad enslaved your ancestors.? No wonder Saudi Arabia put the blame of the last stampede on you Africa Muslims. SMH for you.

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Re: 11111 by plappville(f): 11:36pm On Aug 25, 2016
The OP made Some critical points. But i will only pick one. Its so true that Many moderate Muslims today are walking in the street with fear. Isis and co have put shame in thier faces. Like here in France, Muslim women are enbarrased in some states. I have witness one event where a muslim woman and her kids were calles terrorist in a super market. Again they are facing serious embarrassment with thier Islamic dressing code this summer.

Many will soon close the book and face life like this OP.

The truth is that, ISIS and boko are the true Muslims thats why they are defending Islam with thier lives.

But Op, you left Islam and embrace what then?

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Re: 11111 by tartar9(m): 11:36pm On Aug 25, 2016
donnffd:
This is obviously a lie...brought dead pigeon to life, where did u get the ram blood?, you bought a ram so u can test wit ur little brother? Where did u learn d incantations from?...

You just make lots of claims and expect someone to believe just like that?
Lol...imagine,he has all this powers and he's not a billionaire grin

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Re: 11111 by ComplexManifolds: 12:32am On Aug 26, 2016
What ineffable twaddle.
Re: 11111 by exmuslim1: 1:22am On Aug 26, 2016
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Re: 11111 by exmuslim1: 1:27am On Aug 26, 2016
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Re: 11111 by EyeHateGod: 1:27am On Aug 26, 2016
grin I respect Deist a lot not All this Theist Nonsense But Exmuslim When U think about God what do U see? The Abrahamic one?
Re: 11111 by plappville(f): 1:32am On Aug 26, 2016
exmuslim1:
No religion. Just God.

Which God?
Re: 11111 by exmuslim1: 1:44am On Aug 26, 2016
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Re: 11111 by plappville(f): 1:57am On Aug 26, 2016
exmuslim1:
God is God. Olodumare. Mahou. Whatever name people call him. I believe there is absolutely a principal object of supreme being. Did Yoruba's formulate the name Olodumare after their induction into foreign religions. Absolutely not. And this is evident in almost every culture. Belief in God, and that whatever deed you commit carries it's relative reaction or judgement. Good deed equals good reward. Bad deeds equal equal or acute retribution. But now, it's all about this religion and that.

No, god is not god. Dont tell me the god u are talking about is same as the God of Abraham Isaac and Israel, or the Hinduism god, Shinto god, allah of islam, Buddhist god etc. Because all of them are not thesame. They do not agree. Ao which is yours?

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