Critical thinking  session:  Egyptians are a dark skinned people. Or were dark skinned people in the past, if u visit there museums and see ancient pictures and paintings you will understand. Yahushua and His family hid in Egypt from Herod.  If Yahushua ,Yoseph, and Miriam(Mary) was white could they possibly hide out in Egypt amongst a black race?  They would have to blend in right.  Yahshua, Yoseph and Miriam are from the tribe of Yahudah of the twelve tribes of Israel.  Yoseph, Moses, and Paul are from the twelve tribes.  All either hid in Egypt or was mistaken for an Egyptian. The only conclusion to this is that our Messiah did not have blond or brown hair and white skin.   Yahushua was and is a dark skinned non-Egyptian,non-African Hebrew Israelite. 

The birth or history of the Israel nation started in the Land of Ham/Mizraim or modern day Egypt.  When Ya'aqob(Jacob) entered Egypt with his people their number was around 70 souls and when they departed during the Exodus they numbered in over 3 million Hebrew souls.  If you truly study scripture, you can find what race of people the ancient Hebrews actually are and who they are today.

First off, several times in scripture the ancient Hebrews were compared to the ancient Egyptians in physical appearance.  Lets look at Yoseph(Joseph) when he was second-in-command in Egypt under the Pharaoh. Read the following verse about when Yoseph sees his brothers for the first time many years after they put him in a hole and sold him to the Midianites.

Bereshith(Genesis) 42:7-8-(v7)And Yoseph saw his brothers and recognized them, but he acted as a stranger to them and spoke to them harshly, and said to them,"Where do you come from?"  And they said, "From the land of Kena'an to buy food."(v8)So Yoseph recognized his brothers, but they did not recognize him.

KJV Ch.42:7-8-(v7)And Joseph saw his brethren, and he knew them, but made himself strange unto them, and spake roughly unto them; and he said unto them, Whence come ye? And they said, From the land of Canaan to buy food.(v8)And Joseph knew his brethren, but they knew not him.

1611 KJV ch. 42:7-8(v7)And Ioseph saw his brethren, and he knew them, but made himselfe strange vnto them, and spake roughly vnto them; and hee saide vnto them, Whence come ye? And they said, From the land of Canaan, to buy food.(v8) And Ioseph knew his brethren, but they knew not him.

Okay, so If the Egyptians are a dark skinned people and Yoseph was white, would not his brothers recognized him even with Egyptian garb on?  The answer to that is yes, they would have recognized him whether they would have recognized him as their blood brother or someone of the same nationality.  If you place a white person in a room full of blacks or a black person in a room full of whites they would stand out like a sore thumb.  So if the Egyptians are black and Yoseph's brothers thought he was an Egyptian and not a Hebrew, that means that the Hebrew people were and are a dark skinned people and not the lighter color skinned people we see playing these patriarch Hebrew roles in movies and on t.v. or the people that are occupying Israel right now.

This next verse explains how the Canaanites described the physical appearance of the Hebrews compared to the Egyptians.  This is after the death of Ya'acob in Egypt and his burial in the land of Canaan. 

Bereshith(Genesis)50:7-11(v7)And Yoseph went up to bury his father.  And with him went up all the servants of Pharoah, the elders of his house, and all the elders of the land of Mitsrayiam.(v8)and all the house of Yoseph, and his brothers, and his father's house.  Only their little ones, and their flocks, and their herds they left in the land of Goshen.(v9)And there went up with him both chariots and horsemen, and it was a very great company.(v10)And they came to the threshing floor of Atad, which is beyond the Yarden, and they lamented there with a great and very heavy lamentation.  And he observe seven days of morning for his father.(v11)And when the inhabitants of the land, the Kena'anites, saw the mourning at the threshing-floor of Atad, they said,"This is a greviousmourning for the Mitsrites."  That is why its name was called Abel Mitsrayim, which is beyond the Yarden".

KJV Ch. 50:7-11(v7)And Joseph went up to bury his father: and with him went up all the servants of Pharaoh, the elders of his house, and all the elders of the land of Egypt,(V8)And all the house of Joseph, and his brethren, and his father's house: only their little ones, and their flocks, and their herds, they left in the land of Goshen.(V9)And there went up with him both chariots and horsemen: and it was a very great company.(v10)And they came to the threshingfloor of Atad, which is beyond Jordan, and there they mourned with a great and very sore lamentation: and he made a mourning for his father seven days.(v11)And when the inhabitants of the land, the Canaanites, saw the mourning in the floor of Atad, they said, This is a grievous mourning to the Egyptians: wherefore the name of it was called Abelmizraim, which is beyond Jordan.

KJV 1611 ch.50:7-11(7)  And Ioseph went vp to bury his father: and with him went vp all the seruants of Pharaoh, the elders of his house, and all the elders of the land of Egypt,( And all the house of Ioseph, and his brethren, and his fathers house: onely their litle ones, and their flockes, and their heards, they left in the land of Goshen.(9) And there went vp with him both charets and horsemen: and it was a very great company.(10) And they came to the threshing floore of Atad, which is beyond Iordan, and there they mourned with a great and very sore lamentation: and he made a mourning for his father seuen dayes.(11) And when the inhabitants of the land, the Canaanites sawe the mourning in the floore of Atad, they saide, This is a grieuous mourning to the Egyptians: wherfore the name of it was called, Abel Mizraim, which is beyond Iordan‎
Mosheh (Moses) Mistaken for an Egyptian
Mosheh (Moses) was birthed from the house of Levi.  His father and mother are of the tribe of Levi.
Exodus 2:1-2(v1)And there went a man of the house of Levi, and took to wife a daughter of Levi.(v2)And the woman conceived, and bare a son: and when she saw him that he was a goodly child, she hid him three months.

During this time the Israelite's were still in Egyptian captivity and multiplying at a rapid rate.  The Pharaoh(believed to be Seti I) recognized and feared the great population boost of the Israelite's because he feared his slaves would become greater than them and join their enemies in war against Egypt. 

Exodus 1:7-10(v7)And the children of Israel were fruitful, and increased abundantly, and multiplied, and waxed exceeding mighty; and the land was filled with them.(v8)Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph.(v9)And he said unto his people, Behold, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than wev10)Come on, let us deal wisely with them; lest they multiply, and it come to pass, that, when there falleth out any war, they join also unto our enemies, and fight against us, and so get them up out of the land.

At the time of the birth of Moses, Pharaoh placed an order out that every male Hebrew newborn be killed.

Exodus 1: 22-And Pharaoh charged all his people, saying, Every son that is born ye shall cast into the river, and every daughter ye shall save alive.

OK to sum things up Moses' mother placed him in a basket and put it in the river, Pharaoh's daughter retrieves him from the river and raised him as her own son.  The Pharaoh believed for many many years that Moses was his blood grandson and raised him as so.  He never thought for one moment that Moses was Hebrew.  So if Moses was white, would not he had been killed on the spot.  There is no way that a dark skinned Pharaoh could possibly think that a white skinned Moses was his grandson.  When Pharaoh found out, well into Moses' adulthood, he ordered Moses to be killed.  Here is a quick critical thinking session:  The Egyptians are a dark skinned people.  Pharaoh thought Moses was His blood grandson.  When you put these two facts together you get that Moses was a dark skinned non-Egyptian man.  There is no way around it.  The proof is in the pudding.  POINT, BLANK, PERIOD!  Moses is a black Hebrew Israelite from the tribe of Levi of the twelve tribes of Israel.

After Moses fled from Egypt, he ended up in the land of Midian.  While in Midian he helped seven dauthers of a Midian priest by chasing away oncoming shepherds and helped water the flock.  When the daughters told their father about Moses, they thought he was an Egyptian.

Exodus 2:16-19- (16) Now the priest of Midian had seven daughters: and they came and drew water, and filled the troughs to water their father's flock.(17) And the shepherds came and drove them away: but Moses stood up and helped them, and watered their flock.(18)And when they came to Reuel their father, he said, How is it that ye are come so soon to day?(19)And they said, An Egyptian delivered us out of the hand of the shepherds, and also drew water enough for us, and watered the floc
Paul was Mistaken for an Egyptian

The Apostle Paul, who is from the tribe of Benjamin and is a "Jew" which meant that he dwelt in the land of the tribe of Yahudah(Judah) of the 12 twelve tribes of Israel, was mistaken for an Egyptian.
Acts 21:37-39(v37)And as Paul was to be led into the castle, he said unto the chief captain, May I speak unto thee? Who said, Canst thou speak Greek?(v38)Art not thou that Egyptian, which before these days madest an uproar, and leddest out into the wilderness four thousand men that were murderers?(v39)But Paul said, I am a man which am a Jew of Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city: and, I beseech thee, suffer me to speak unto the people.

OK it's time for another critical thinking session:  Egyptians are a dark skinned people.  Paul was mistaken for an Egyptian by a Greek speaking Chief Captain who was most likely a European because Rome had control of Israel at that time.  Paul could not possibly be white and be mistaken for a black Egyptian by a European guard.  Paul has to be a dark skinned Hebrew man.
Yahushua is Black
Our savior Yahushua the Messiah was birthed out of the tribe of Yahudah(Judah) from the twelve tribes of Israel.  When Yahushua was just a young child, Him, His father and mother fled to Egypt because Herod ordered all male children 2 years and under to be killed for the fear of the prophecy of a future reigning King.

Matthew 2:13-And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Yahuah appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him.
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The Ancient Hebrew Israelites were compared with and mistaken for Egyptians many many times as far as physical appearance goes.See the pictures of the real Ancient Hebrews Israelites; 
real tangible proof and see the real Ancient Egyptians. ‎
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Hmmmm Nice writeup

don't care about my saviors color.. blue,red,green,purple all I care about is the blood of the lamp on my 4head shekina:"

ever811:
don't care about my saviors color.. blue,red,green,purple all I care about is the blood of the lamp on my 4head shekina:"

Please don't run from the truth, don't be shy at the face of the evidence. We blacks don't even buy the black Jesus idea, they have twisted our history to the point that we are satisfied being inferior.

I've known for a very long time that Jesus Christ is brown/dark in complexion in opposite to what the westerners made us belief, nice right up bro. Todays' Israelites are not even the pure jews.

I've known for a very long time that Jesus Christ is brown/dark in complexion in opposite to what the westerners made us belief, nice right up bro. Todays' Israelites are not even the pure jews.

Stop smoking cheap Osogbo weed you no go gree
See what your life is now turning to

The fact remains that be he (Jesus) white or black, it doesn't make him lesser than what he is and will always be THE SON OF God.

Now for clarification sake

1) Revelation 1:15 ESV

His feet were like burnished bronze, refined in a furnace , and his voice was like the roar of many waters.

To start with, for those unfamiliar with the word or metal 'bronze', the colour of bronze is brown When bronze is heated at high temperatures in a furnace, it turns further darker brown.

2) Revelation 1:13-14 ESV 



And in the midst of the lampstands one like a son of man, clothed with a long robe and with a golden sash around his chest. The hairs of his head were white, like white wool, like snow. His eyes were like a flame of fire.

Of all races, only the black man's hair when grown resembles wool. The hair of asiatic/european peoples are known to be long, flowy and wavy.

3) Isaiah 53:2 ESV 


For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him.



4) Daniel 10:5-6 ESV 



I lifted up my eyes and looked, and behold, a man clothed in linen, with a belt of fine gold from Uphaz around his waist. His body was like beryl, his face like the appearance of lightning, his eyes like flaming torches, his arms and legs like the gleam of burnished bronze, and the sound of his words like the sound of a multitude.

In this verse, not only were the feet of Jesus ascribed to be bronze-like in colour but his entire legs and arms.

Loseph yoseph roseph nko

Thank Jehovah Rasullulah(abduhu wa rasulluhu S.A.W) has lineage so no qualms about his colour of skin.. When Pope died, a black man from Nigeria was said to have being his suppose successor, I laughed in vertican when I heard, all the security and celebrity kind of treat the Pope get can never be accord to a black Pope by the whites. Michael Jackson was brainwashed to change the colour of his skin so that he can gain recognition among whites, though a decision he openly regrets.
OP your research might be true,no doubt but it has being proven in our own generation that even if Jesus is black, he will be advised to bleach his skin to be acceptable by almighty whites hahaha...
So no doubt the OP's research can be true but the whites will forever make the blacks believe Jesus is a white man..

Some contemporary groups suggest Jesus was a black or African Hebrew. Is there evidence for this view? Was Jesus black?

A straightforward look at the history of the life of Jesus in the Gospels notes He was the virgin-born son of a Hebrew woman from the town of Nazareth in the modern-day nation of Israel. A descendant of Jews, Jesus would have certainly been born with a Jewish complexion, typically consisting of an olive, light brown skin tone. This is also supported by the fact that Jesus fit well within His local Jewish culture and was known as being from Nazareth and being a Galilean (Matthew 26:69).
Many quickly dismiss the idea of the Jewishness of Jesus as unimportant. However, the Jewish physical background of Jesus is important for a variety of reasons. First, Jesus came as the promised Jewish Messiah. This would require Him to be physically Jewish, including features others would recognize as Jewish. The very first verse of the New Testament clearly proclaims the Jewish ethnicity of Jesus: "The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham" (Matthew 1:1).
Second, the messianic prophecies could not be fulfilled in Jesus unless He was physically Jewish. To be from the tribe of Judah required Jewish lineage. It is evident from passages such as Hebrews 7:14," For it is evident that our Lord was descended from Judah," that Jesus was ethnically a Jew.....
Third, Jesus could only be rejected and suffer as the Jewish Messiah if He was Jewish. If Jesus had been of another background, the fulfillment of Isaiah 53 of Jesus as the suffering servant of the Jewish people would not have been able to take place. In fact, verse 2 notes, "For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him." This prophecy made clear that the looks of the Messiah were not the focus; it was His role that held utmost importance.
Fourth, John 4:22 specifically notes the Jewishness of Jesus from His own perspective: "You [the Samaritans] worship what you do not know; we [the Jews] worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews."
Finally, Jesus was nailed to a cross with a sign that called Him "King of the Jews." To both Jews and Gentiles, Jesus was seen as a Jewish man who claimed to be a king. While He was rejected, His resurrection proved His claim as the Messiah...
The evidence clearly supports the view that Jesus was an ethnic Jew with a Jewish complexion. This Jewish Messiah is the One who calls those of every background to come to Him for salvation (Acts 4:12), offering eternal life to all who believe (John 3:16) [color=#006600][/color]

MSMnigeria:
The fact remains that be he (Jesus) white or black, it doesn't make him lesser than what he is and will always be THE SON OF God.

Now for clarification sake

1) Revelation 1:15 ESV

His feet were like burnished bronze, refined in a furnace , and his voice was like the roar of many waters.

To start with, for those unfamiliar with the word or metal 'bronze', the colour of bronze is brown When bronze is heated at high temperatures in a furnace, it turns further darker brown.

2) Revelation 1:13-14 ESV 



And in the midst of the lampstands one like a son of man, clothed with a long robe and with a golden sash around his chest. The hairs of his head were white, like white wool, like snow. His eyes were like a flame of fire.

Of all races, only the black man's hair when grown resembles wool. The hair of asiatic/european peoples are known to be long, flowy and wavy.

3) Isaiah 53:2 ESV 


For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him.



4) Daniel 10:5-6 ESV 



I lifted up my eyes and looked, and behold, a man clothed in linen, with a belt of fine gold from Uphaz around his waist. His body was like beryl, his face like the appearance of lightning, his eyes like flaming torches, his arms and legs like the gleam of burnished bronze, and the sound of his words like the sound of a multitude.

In this verse, not only were the feet of Jesus ascribed to be bronze-like in colour but his entire legs and arms.

Jewish as a Hebraic Jew, Jesus was born in Bethlehem, but his earthly mother, Mary, and his earthly father, Joseph, were from the northern parts of Galilee. Jesus would not have been white; he would have been olive-skinned. The closest thing in our day and age would be Middle Eastern Arabs or Middle Eastern ethnic Jews...Additionally, as the son of a carpenter and a young man who trained in carpentry, we can deduce that Jesus was probably tanned by the sun and at least in decent shape, but not necessarily “cut” or especially athletic....

If Yoseph, Yacob etc are black, then the Yeebos, I mean the flattt headddss are from Yesrael!

divinecode101:
If Yoseph, Yacob etc are black, then the Yeebos, I mean the flattt headddss are from Yesrael!

You definitely don't have the 'blood of the lamp' on your head

Time for flat heads to come and narrate thier origins

It all makes sense

Okay, now that we have accepted that he was black skin, what next?

*Following* got nothing to say tho only thing I can deduce is that black has being so much brain washed by this Christianity religioning cus I personally found out lot of doctrines practice by Christians that not even in the scriptures, they only implemented by white folks, what a cruel world.

so the Egyptians you see today looks black to u?well whether Jesus is white or black it doesn't really matter and there is no single physical evidence about his complexion existing today
I need to add that Egyptians with the Catalans and Turkish people of today look more alike and have ancestral link

ever811:
don't care about my saviors color.. blue,red,green,purple all I care about is the blood of the lamp on my 4head shekina:"

so you have a lamp that bleeds... abi no be kerosene your own lamp dey use?!

boss1310:
so the Egyptians you see today looks black to u?well whether Jesus is white or black it doesn't really matter and there is no single physical evidence about his complexion existing today
I need to add that Egyptians with the Catalans and Turkish people of today look more alike and have ancestral link

dude stop masturbating in ignorance! go and do some historical research and get to understand what the poster is talking about! the original inhabitants of ancient syria (which encompassed present day egypt long before recorded biblical times) were nubians!

Iscoalarcon:
Stop smoking cheap Osogbo weed you no go gree
See what your life is now turning to

Stupid slowpoke........them dey tel you your history and you dey fool your self...... Its strange sha....didn't know people like you still exist if you don't know ur history heritage where u re from how can you know where you re going to.........you re just existing not living.....open mouth talk like drunk fool

If you don't care about his colour, it means you don't care about truth. It means you have no understanding of the relevance of history. In a nut shell, it means you are a blind believer who must be led by the nose. Of course,that is what those who created and twisted the story hope to achieve; to get us to believe them blindly and make it easy for us to be controlled

ever811:
don't care about my saviors color.. blue,red,green,purple all I care about is the blood of the lamp on my 4head shekina:"

boss1310:
so the Egyptians you see today looks black to u?well whether Jesus is white or black it doesn't really matter and there is no single physical evidence about his complexion existing today
I need to add that Egyptians with the Catalans and Turkish people of today look more alike and have ancestral link

I think history should be made compulsory in all our secondary school for a start so that people can learn more about themselves and the world around them.

Acient Egyptians were dark skin Africans, the Egyptians of toady is a mixture of Acient Egyptians, Turks, Palestinian , Persian and other southern European.
Majority of present day Egyptian of 87million people still look darker than Arab Gulf, Turks, Syrians or Palestinian.

Egypt was a cross road between Africa and middle east, so you will expect lots of mixing and interaction between different people from the three continent of Africa, Europe and Asia

So Christains has been worshipin with Faith, faith works.
Make we reach Heaven finish make we no Dey espct white Jesus....confusion go happen o

Qualer:



dude stop masturbating in ignorance! go and do some historical research and get to understand what the poster is talking about! the original inhabitants of ancient syria (which encompassed present day egypt long before recorded biblical times) were nubians!

and gay man you were there to know what they look like then.they are Nubians yet none of their population not even a percent look like that today.don't be pushing too hard or trying to be sentimental because you want Christ to look black as it doesn't really matter the race he is from if you are a true believer
its always funny when people only talk about history from what is written in the books.use your head sometimes its not just there to watch porn or play bet9ja

Onyegecha:


If you don't care about his colour, it means you don't care about truth. It means you have no understanding of the relevance of history. In a nut shell, it means you are a blind believer who must be led by the nose. Of course,that is what those who created and twisted the story hope to achieve; to get us to believe them blindly and make it easy for us to be controlled

ipob!ipob!ipob..I think radio biafera don tell you say Jesus is not real?..so wetin come be your own for Jesus matter!

Onyegecha:


If you don't care about his colour, it means you don't care about truth. It means you have no understanding of the relevance of history. In a nut shell, it means you are a blind believer who must be led by the nose. Of course,that is what those who created and twisted the story hope to achieve; to get us to believe them blindly and make it easy for us to be controlled

I think black people shud get over all this drama and talk. I think it too late for such arguments bt so he Ws Jew or Hebrew or like Egyptian complexion or mideast Arab, are those people black? Are they called black? Let's stop this inferiority complex borne arguements and forge ahead. It's no Longer by physical or geographical birth. However I don't think Jews or even Arabs are black and if dey are it don't matter if blacks aren't achieving significant things now? Cheers

[quote author=abdulwastecx post=48817657]

I think history should be made compulsory in all our secondary school for a start so that people can learn more about themselves and the world around them.
all these because you want Christ to appear black?of what use will it be to you,Christianity is not about facts but just faith.talking about history being compulsory in school yet you are quoting bible,when did bible become a basis for studying history even if I as a Christian believe every word in it
Jesus as the whole world believe is Jew and if Jews arent blacks then he is not simple,forget all these things people mix up to bring up arguments about race.Egypt was a hotbed for commerce and civilisation back in the day and that simply means that people of different races can hide there even in plain sight.meanwhile Herod's men and Herod himself never knew what the saviour and his parents look like.I love ur topic as its educative but facts is what I live with

jaxxy:


I think black people shud get over all this drama and talk. I think it too late for such arguments bt so he Ws Jew or Hebrew or like Egyptian complexion or mideast Arab, are those people black? Are they called black? Let's stop this inferiority complex borne arguements and forge ahead. It's no Linder by physical or geographical birth. However I don't think Jews or even Arabs are black. Cheers

my exact point!

boss1310:

and gay man you were there to know what they look like then.they are Nubians yet none of their population not even a percent look like that today.don't be pushing too hard or trying to be sentimental because you want Christ to look black as it doesn't really matter the race he is from if you are a true believer
its always funny when people only talk about history from what is written in the books.use your head sometimes its not just there to watch porn or play bet9ja

and yet he is still here in full masturbation mode.. that is how you people fail in life.. like i said - go and do some historical research instead of coming online and trying to wish yourself into the intelligence cadre. Knowledge is there for the taking - if you do know where to look and what to look for (which i seriously doubt - judging from your submissions). Try and educate yourself, don't depend on what halfbaked lecturers infuse into your brain in school. We are not talking about religion here but history and facts! I would have loved to teach you a few things but alas! you have a brain too, so make use of it positively. Your greatest mistake will be continuing to live in assumption and wallow in ignorance.

Qualer:



dude stop masturbating in ignorance! go and do some historical research and get to understand what the poster is talking about! the original inhabitants of ancient syria (which encompassed present day egypt long before recorded biblical times) were nubians!

please any book you can recommend for me.