danthamccoy:
Should simply "hearing" the gospel before you die be enough to send one to hell for eternity?

Consider a case of a young boy, say in Tibet who at a very young age is sent to a remote countryside to train to become a monk. He's virtually cut off from the rest of the world but happens to hear about Jesus Christ a few times. He's a Buddhist monk and has grown up his whole life with the same belief hammered into him.

But when he dies he's going to hell simply because he heard the Gospel (alongside hearing about several other religions) and "rejected" it along with the rest of them?

Reason i don't believe Those who don't believe in Christ will burn in Hell.. am a Christian . Most Christian are just shying away from the truth.

We all know how the human mind works, If a child is been born into another religion lets say Buddhism , and he/she is been indoctrinated, When that Child grows up there's nothing you tell him that will make him change is faith Do you know Why ? His mind has been conditioned , 98% of those born into other religion likewise won't convert to Christian, So are you telling me that they will all burn in Hell ?, Wow interesting.

Now my question is

i. Did they choose there Religion ?
ii. If been a Christian will be a determinant factor for making heaven , so are you telling me God will burn his own Creature In Hell because they were indoctrinated into different Religion ?

lets apply common sense.. Happy sunday.

danthamccoy:
Should simply "hearing" the gospel before you die be enough to send one to hell for eternity?

Consider a case of a young boy, say in Tibet who at a very young age is sent to a remote countryside to train to become a monk. He's virtually cut off from the rest of the world but happens to hear about Jesus Christ a few times. He's a Buddhist monk and has grown up his whole life with the same belief hammered into him.

But when he dies he's going to hell simply because he heard the Gospel (alongside hearing about several other religions) and "rejected" it along with the rest of them?

God is merciful and a just judge...he will not condemn a good man who died without hearing the gospel of Christ in his life.. those people who died before the Gospel reached them centuries ago will be judged according to their deeds..man has always had that still small voice whispering to his conscience... that is why man is a moral being..will Abraham and his lineage be judged guilty for not confessing Christ as their Lord and saviour?

I believe there shall be no second coming, till the gospel reaches the four corners of the earth. Mathew 24v14 - and this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

seankay:
All I see on this thread are Fanatics. How can you tell me only Christians will make Heaven?
I was born into a Christian family but I've detected so many flaws in Religion. All Religions believe you can't make heaven unless you join them so this has made me concluded that if there would truly be a judgment,it can never be based on Religion.

Nigeria as a case study:

Before the advent of the two foreign and prominent Religions in Nigeria; Christianity and Islam, our fore fathers worshiped what they believed in. Today we term those things idols and both Religions believes the worshipers are Hell bound. However, since God is merciful, loving and not wicked, I don't believe he intentionally decided to send Billion of People to hell,knowing fully well that they stand no chance of hearing the "Gospel"

Exactly my point.. Most Christian shy away from the truth.. Me too am a Christian but truth be told..

royalemperors:


Are you serious about the emboldened?

Hope you are aware that there are other religion and those PRACTISING these other religion were also created by God, just like Christians?

Its important I state this that majority of us humans are in one religion or the other not by choice but by nature. If Jesus Christ is the only and through way to heaven as you stated, how then would someone like a man in Edo north who is a Muslim, he didn't became a Muslim by choice but he was born into a Muslim home, which has been the practise in their home right from the time of his forefather's and that makes Islam the only religion he knows, understands and practise. Does that means he also won't know or reach heaven when the trumpet sounds except he converts to Christianity, become a christian, know and give his life to Christ?

God has NOTHING to do with religion, God created man and man invent religion, man invent religion to fill that empty vacuum. Those born into muslims home must have come across the message of christ, if you reject it, its your choice.

An2elect2:
Okay dear. Wish you same!

thank you.

royalemperors:

Its a pity this is how religion has taken some human imaginations to.

With what you just stated, it means all religions are fighting a supremacy battle with another just to become the lead and that makes all religious books flaw.

Its people like you that would have your mom in the hospital on a sick bed needing 200k to carry out an operation on her to make her live but you would prefer to go give your pastor the money instead of saving your mom's life just because your pastor quote a verse from the bible stating the church is more important than any other thing or human.

For your info every religion is powerful and that's why they have have followers and many are based on deceptions but Christ is only THRUTH. Tell me His word you found out to be a lie all are has happened, happening and still to happen.

For your illustration using my mom
I think you don't understand something here.
All doctors are lil gods because they representing part of God on earth, so no need to ignore them. Only foolish person will do what u just said bro.

the gospel reached my forefathers about 2 centuries ago...Christ died and rose again about two thousand years ago..what will happen to the myriad of good men and women who were just and showed love to their neighbours, who died before the Europeans could reach them with the Gospel... they will be condemned to eternal punishment? you think the Most High Creator will condemn those who showed the ultimate law which is "love your neighbour as yourself" because they didn't confess Christ? thank God that God is not man...

An2elect2:
You don't see Him because you are blind to Him.
Why not ask Him for sight

And you see him in a world full if men because you are delusional, why don't you seek help.

mecussey:

Does this mean, all musliims ar condemned already

No be me talk am.

That's one of the reasons I doubt religion.

victorazy:


I think your the ignorant fellow here bro!
1 Peter 4: 6 read it.
The gospel is on waiting for them over there.

lol.... So if one dies without knowing Christ, the gospel will be preached to him in the land of the dead...? That means he have the chance of repenting and accepting Christ as a dead man.... Plz, enlighten me....

sarutobie:
the gospel reached my forefathers about 2 centuries ago...Christ died and rose again about two thousand years ago..what will happen to the myriad of good men and women who were just and showed love to their neighbours, who died before the Europeans could reach them with the Gospel... they will be condemned to eternal punishment? you think the Most High Creator will condemn those who showed the ultimate law which is "love your neighbour as yourself" because they didn't confess Christ? thank God that God is not man...

Eat this 1 Peter 4: 5. You will be fine
Many doesn't know whom Jesus is, He is the word that formed the world, he has answer to every problem on earth.

royalemperors:

So if I was born and died as a Buddhist, what would be my judgment? Hell because I didn't recognise and follow the way of Jesus Christ who is supposed to be representing another religion diff from mine? Don't tell me yes, if you do then it means since USA is the world power, for you as a human to make it in life, you must first believe, practice and follow the American dream and their way of life.

if u die as a Buddhist u will go to hell becos u rejected the conviction of the Holy ghost when He told u abt Jesus

aninexzy:
. Before rapture tAkes place, d gospel will get to every nook and cranny of the earth. hence nobody have any xcuse of whatsoever.

And those that have died before hearing it.

An2elect2:
Lol Ive not seen any scripture where it is said that those who would not hear the gospel, will be saved alongside those who believe.
Rather, scripture says, he that believes not is condemned already (he has been condemned in Adam even before men started to preach the gospel)

John 3:18

Even romans 10 : 13,14 Talks about the orders salvation must follow before it is attained: and hearing is one of them.

Though i agree their punishment would not be as grievous as those who saw and tasted the gospel.

But they will perish too

They would not have been guilty sin if I had not come and spoken to them; as it is, they no longer have any excuse for their sin John 15:22 and John 15:24a, what do you think on this?.

Rich4god:
lol.... So if one dies without knowing Christ, the gospel will be preached to him in the land of the dead...? That means he have the chance of repenting and accepting Christ as a dead man.... Plz, enlighten me....

Na wa for u o!
I gave answer there and ur here asking me for enlightenment, u no get bible? Check 1Peter 4:5-6
Jesus went to hell as a sinner but for a mission to release the prisoner and give them the good news just as is been preached to us alive because God is God of justice. Many will still reject it and not believe him just as many are doing on earth today. . j

Rich4god:
lol.... So if one dies without knowing Christ, the gospel will be preached to him in the land of the dead...? That means he have the chance of repenting and accepting Christ as a dead man.... Plz, enlighten me....

Na wa for u o!
I gave answer there and ur here asking me for enlightenment, u no get bible? Check 1Peter 4:5-6
Jesus went to hell as a sinner but for a mission to release the prisoners and give them the good news just as is been preached to us alive because God is God of justice. Many will still reject it and not believe him just as many are doing on earth today. . j

victorazy:


Na wa for u o!
I gave answer there and ur here asking me for enlightenment, u no get bible? Check 1Peter 4:5-6
Jesus went to hell as a sinner but for a mission to release the prisoners and give them the good news just as is been preached to us alive because God is God of justice. Many will still reject it and not believe him just as many are doing on earth today. . j

Just come out plain.... Do you mean that as a dead man, some still can still have the option of rejecting Christ even in the grave....

If only Christians will understand and believe the scripture...
By prophesing hell fire, shows how dark and wicked the human heart can be, because there is no place from Genesis to Revelation where u will find it. If you believe in a place where billions of the children of God will be tormented in a fire forever then u really need to give your life to God and pray He should direct you to the truth because you are being lied to.

ƒσℓℓσωιηg!

Rich4god:
Just come out plain.... Do you mean that as a dead man, some still can still have the option of rejecting Christ even in the grave....

Are the living all believers? is just like that too.

The good news Jesus brought is on over there and many will still reject it. Remember this is ONLY for those who didn't hear the gospel (good news) on earth o! Not for me and u we don hearam if we die na judgment strigth

Akshow:
Modern Church, Monster Church.

Practices in the modern evangelical church that I will NEVER ever get over.

1. Comedy Shows or StandUp Comedy in Churches.
Is the Church about Jokes now?

2. Award/Dinner Nights in churches.
What happens to selfless christian service and heavenly rewards?

3. Bodyguards or Ushers in churches looking like FBI/CIA Agents running everywhere.
Is the church under siege? This really freaks me out.

4. POS Machines in churches.
Maybe worshippers should pay their offerings into a designated bank account the next Monday morning. It gives the church some replica of sacred sanity, rather than look like a glorified Casino. Or maybe churches are scared their 'magic' would wear off before Monday?

5. Pulpit looking too much like a Concert Stage. Too many light works and special effects.
What is our main attraction? Christ or the others?

6. Everybody speaks in tongues that no one understands, yet nobody interprets.
How am I encouraged or edified if you motivate me in Latin where I'm Yoruba?

7. Special King-size Seats for the Presiding Pastor and his Mrs.
Are you the Lord or Jesus?

8. Special Stooges who carry even the Pastor's mobile phones and wife's bag.
Are they amputees?

9. Sharing the grace with the guy/girl beside you in church, yet you leave in your car without offering him/her a lift to a nearby bus stop.
Why not share your car and keep your grace?

10. You've not paid your rent, fees or tax but your tithe never suffers.
Always remember: God is merciful, but your landlord or government is not.

There are simply too many abominable practices today in the modern church, fast evolving into a monster church. Too many to even remember. Do you Believers know any?


Selah.

Not a christian sir but I concur with you

Ada9103:
Jesus is the way..........





I'm so delighted.... Happy born day to me

Happy birthday.

Tomorrow na my own

Rich4god:
So many places.... Mostly middle East, Asian countries, east Africa.... Countries like north Korea might have people like that.

Wtf are you saying?!

You've been watching too many movies... Of all places u wan talk na middle east and Asia never hear of Jesus. Don't kid yourself man

andycoal40:


errant nonsense.....

Still makes sense pass your sense

haryomikun:

Happy birthday.

Tomorrow na my own

Wow...that's so sweet

malvisguy212:
Paul tell us That those who have not heard of the gospel will be judge by the law which God had place in their heart;

Doesn't that mean one can enter Eternal Life without Chrsit?

charlsecy:
Doesn't that mean one can enter Eternal Life without Chrsit?

NO. The judgment of this people is different from Those who know the will of God, This are the people who have not been Expose by the Gospel of christ. The parable of the slave and master imply their punishment is different from those who know the will of God but depart from it.

haryomikun:

Wtf are you saying?!

You've been watching too many movies... Of all places u wan talk na middle east and Asia never hear of Jesus. Don't kid yourself man

I don't knw why when it comes to matter of religion, some people will just talk without fact. Countries like Saudia, China and even India, there are remote places where the inhabitants don't even know any other religion outside theirs exit. In the Amazonian forest, geographers claim that there are pple there that have not come in contact with civilization as the place is unexplored.

Let me even come back home.... States like zamfara, sokoto and kebbi, there are villages where the inhabitants know Jesus Christ as a prophet of Allah and not as a saviour, cos that's how the Quran puts it. If not for nysc program, the percentage of those categories of people would have been more. You think it's every body that have the kind of information and freedom that you have. Come up north and see for yourself....

Rich4god:
I don't knw why when it comes to matter of religion, some people will just talk without fact. Countries like Saudia, China and even India, there are remote places where the inhabitants don't even know any other religion outside theirs exit. In the Amazonian forest, geographers claim that there are pple there that have not come in contact with civilization as the place is unexplored.

Let me even come back home.... States like zamfara, sokoto and kebbi, there are villages where the inhabitants know Jesus Christ as a prophet of Allah and not as a saviour, cos that house the Quran puts it. If not for nysc program, the percentage of those categories of people would have been more. You think it's every body that have the kind of information and freedom that you have. Come up north and see for yourself....

Number one Sir, am not religious. I don't do religion.... So I ain't no fanatic

Number two sir, you just countered yourself... You said they know Jesus as a prophet of Allah. The fact is they've heard about Jesus. So far you don hear about Jesus you don hear am b dat. Na hell fire remain. At least according to Christian making heaven terms.

Number three, when you were talking about the Asia and middle east thing you made it sound like 20% of the population there no sabi about Jesus at all. Like dem never hear the name.

Thing is, so far you don hear about Allah, you don hear about Jesus be that. In the Quran, there was evidence of Christianity so it ain't like you don't know about its existence.

It doesn't matter whether someone came to preach to you directly or indirectly. So far you have knowledge that there's a religion like Christianity you don dey enlightened be that.

P.s: I spoke from a Christian perspective even though am not one

Ada9103:





Wow...that's so sweet

Yeaa... The lord has connected us together. On a Sunday and one day difference between birthdays.

PM me your number

haryomikun:

Yeaa... The lord has connected us together. On a Sunday and one day difference between birthdays.

PM me your number

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