Been studying all types but really its between christianity and Islam, the thing is am leaning towards islam because the doctrine soo much more simple and easy to understand without the theological paradoxical notions of the trinity or the original sin, maybe i should abandon both but i dont know, christianity atleast the modern feels soo far removed from Yeshua(esa) the aramaic jewish man living in 2000 years ago, i can almost feel and smell the change of the religion when i walk into a church

its very easy to understand amputation, jihad, killing of defenseless people and worshiping the moon-god, . . .Another thoughtless retard.

Sadly i read past the silly plomics that just posted especially the oft-repeated but oft-refuted Moongod theory of Moore, unlike you, you are wrapped up in your doctrine soo hard that you are too scared to look at the otherside. It scares you to be objective. Im free i can look at any sources and not be scared or worried that my faith will be shattered.

But as a note from my studies Jihad is part struggle/part war only done for defensive purposes. I would like you to find me verses in the quran which of course you can explain to me without copying and pasting without knowing the context(studies early quranic history and the biography of mohammed)

-also find me verses in the quran or hadith that Justify the killing of defenseless people and sanction it to make a muslim creed. Explain to me the context of the verses revealed, and amputation funny you mention because that was a form of punishment for theft in medieval days, even done by the church, but how is that unreasonable? every community has customs of corporal punishment


reply to me finding the sources from both sides and be honest, do it without going to famous plomics sites because i know all of them

NOW here is a vidoe that completely distroys the moon god assertion(most christian abadon the theory)

here are three videos since am objective dubunking your assertion

from a jew:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_l3wmMSJcU

here is another aramaic jewish speaking guy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3XUNwPcIZg&feature=related

Here is another video that totally destroys the Moon GOD assertion made by a white dude


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ4rYO_4JDE

See all different perspectives,

shakerz:

Sadly i read past the silly plomics that just posted especially the oft-repeated but oft-refuted Moongod theory of Moore, unlike you, you are wrapped up in your doctrine soo hard that you are too scared to look at the otherside. It scares you to be objective. Im free i can look at any sources and not be scared or worried that my faith will be shattered.

But as a note from my studies Jihad is part struggle/part war only done for defensive purposes. I would like you to find me verses in the quran which of course you can explain to me without copying and pasting without knowing the context(studies early quranic history and the biography of mohammed)

-also find me verses in the quran or hadith that Justify the killing of defenseless people and sanction it to make a muslim creed. Explain to me the context of the verses revealed, and amputation funny you mention because that was a form of punishment for theft in medieval days, even done by the church, but how is that unreasonable? every community has customs of corporal punishment


reply to me finding the sources from both sides and be honest, do it without going to famous plomics sites because i know all of them

NOW here is a vidoe that completely distroys the moon god assertion(most christian abadon the theory)

here are three videos since am objective dubunking your assertion

from a jew:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_l3wmMSJcU

here is another aramaic jewish speaking guy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3XUNwPcIZg&feature=related

Here is another video that totally destroys the Moon GOD assertion made by a white dude


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ4rYO_4JDE

See all different perspectives,

do u know how many times on this forum IDIOTS like u have demanded for evidences from the koran? do u know how many times I provided these evidences from ur koran and haddiths? do u know how many times IDIOTS like u have ended up running away from the threads in question?

Go and read ur koran and haddiths. . . . .u know next to nothing about allah's islam.

Okay lets be honest here just admit atleast you didnt watch the videos.

Ignore the things i asked you to do and lets focus on 1 thing.

Since you got scared to watch those clips from Jews and not muslims because i knew you would not watch it, here is the point:

Answer these simple question

What Languge did Jesus, your God, speak?
---- Ill give you the first answer Aramaic


Now how do you say God in Aramaic?

----Here click on this Aramaic lexicon, put in the word God and tell me what it says:

http://www.peshitta.org/cgi-bin/lexicon.cgi

lol waiting for answer

shakerz:

Okay lets be honest here just admit atleast you didnt watch the videos.

Ignore the things i asked you to do and lets focus on 1 thing.

Since you got scared to watch those clips from Jews and not muslims because i knew you would not watch it, here is the point:

Answer these simple question

What Languge did Jesus, your God, speak?
---- Ill give you the first answer Aramaic


Now how do you say God in Aramaic?

----Here click on this Aramaic lexicon, put in the word God and tell me what it says:

http://www.peshitta.org/cgi-bin/lexicon.cgi

can u give ONE intelligent reason why ANYONE shoul see ur videos?

hey neotic be FEARLESS one time in your life and go to the damn lexicon and type in the name god and tell me what it reads in Aramaic the language of Jesus,

GAWD, no wonder no you are blind, just tell me the answer

shakerz:

hey neotic be FEARLESS one time in your life and go to the damn lexicon and type in the name god and tell me what it reads in Aramaic the language of Jesus,

GAWD, no wonder no you are blind, just tell me the answer

what is this goon saying?

when was the last time u read ur koran?

Gosh another muslim trying to stylishly present his faith as the truth. . .i tire oo!

okay for anyone who is viewing this thread, this is why this christian neolotic was scared to post the reply.

When you type in God in the standard Aramaic lexicon here is the answer

"Meaning:God
Pronunciation: (Eastern) AaLaH


Look like Jesus was worshipping Allah and called his lord as such , he didnt use the word Lord or God, not Eloah(even though this is the hebrew pronounciation of Allah) or Jevoah or anything else but Allah, see the thing is that aramaic is the foundation of syriac and arabic, , OR YOU still going to claim the jesus worshipped a Moon God called Allah?


I think the damage is done, IM OUTTIE 

shakerz:

okay for anyone who is viewing this thread, this is why this christian neolotic was scared to post the reply.

When you type in God in the standard Aramaic lexicon here is the answer

"Meaning:God
Pronunciation: (Eastern) AaLaH


Look like Jesus was worshipping Allah and called his lord as such , he didnt use the word Lord or God, not Eloah(even though this is the hebrew pronounciation of Allah) or Jevoah or anything else but Allah, see the thing is that aramaic is the foundation of syriac and arabic, , OR YOU still going to claim the jesus worshipped a Moon God called Allah?


I think the damage is done, IM OUTTIE 

1. mohammed's father was also worshipping an allah. . .hence his name was abd-allah (which means slave of allah). since he was dead before mohammed was born, who was the allah he was worshipping?

2. if Jesus worshipped allah. . . . . .why did allah stop using anointing oil and using priests like was done in the OT?. . .who EXACTLY is allah?

The word ALLAH precedes the Arabs and the coptic Chrsitians before even Mohammed and the Arabs of Qureish were using it. Just visit egypt and syria and yemen, the generational arab who are still christian claim that word is there,  its true that the Arabs started to associate the names of gods like hubal and manat and so on with smaller dieties after they became polythestic(remember they are the children of ISHMAEL) but for Allah they never made idols except for his -daughers,

the point is that ALLAH goes back to the tongue of Jesus, and the prove i posted in the damn dictionary,

What does Allah mean? WTF, watch the damn 2 minutes clips, shesesh

Eloah comes from Elohim(the im is royal plural) Allah is the Arabic prouncation of Eloah which means the God. Eloah and Allah are the same word, same letters ( A L H ARE THE TRIANGULAR ROOTS) but pronounced slightly different.

READ THIS SHIT ON YOUR OWN BY THE WAY

HERE ARE OTHER WORDS FOR GOD

SYRIAC GOD IS ALAHA IN GREEK IT IS TRANSLATED AS ELO-I AND so on


The problem is that you forgot that Jesus was middle eastern and that the language he spoke was close to arabic, you think christianity came from europe, gawd your soooo dumb, AM NOT EVEN MUSLIM YET I KNOW THIS, GO TO WIKIPEDIA OR ENCLOYPEDIA, its common knowledge for people who are not brainwashed christians

I believe that Judaic rituals and worship was conducted in Hebrew and the jewish scriptures were written in Hebrew and not Aramaic. So he would have called God the way he is called in the Hebrew scriptures.

secondly, Jews didn't typically call the name of God, or even write it. When they wrote it the took out the vowels to leave YHWH. the tetragrammaton.

I am only aware of one record of Jesus actually calling out to God, and that was on the cross (which muslims say didn't happen, his crucifixion). And No, he didn't cry Allah allah why have you forsaken me.

Fetish priestswhen discussing their religion will talk of God, so will hindus and so will christians. Does that mean that they are all referring to the same being?

Wow interesting. Hope noetic will be shave off his ignorance

Abuzola:

Wow interesting. Hope noetic will be shave off his ignorance

Sharap, what do you want noetic to be shaved of ? the Abuzola and sharkez conspiracy ?

shakerz:

Been studying all types but really its between christianity and Islam, the thing is am leaning towards islam because the doctrine soo much more simple and easy to understand without the theological paradoxical notions of the trinity or the original sin, maybe i should abandon both but i dont know, christianity atleast the modern feels soo far removed from Yeshua(esa) the aramaic jewish man living in 2000 years ago, i can almost feel and smell the change of the religion when i walk into a church

You are a muslim posıng as an agnostic . . .the problem is that the koran and the OT are almost the same because most of the stories in the koran were stolen from the OT. . . .If you insist that the OT is false then you automatically accept that the koran is false. . . .

Pastor AIO:

I believe that Judaic rituals and worship was conducted in Hebrew and the jewish scriptures were written in Hebrew and not Aramaic.  So he would have called God the way he is called in the Hebrew scriptures.  

secondly, Jews didn't typically call the name of God, or even write it.  When they wrote it the took out the vowels to leave YHWH.  the tetragrammaton.  

I am only aware of one record of Jesus actually calling out to God, and that was on the cross (which muslims say didn't happen, his crucifixion).  And No, he didn't cry Allah allah why have you forsaken me.  

See the problem is that "ELA ELA lama Sabachtani" (God God why have you forsaken me) is rendered in Hebrew and not in Aramaic so that why does it not appear as Allah, i posted some videos of Jewish speakers trying to clear the confusion because lots of christians think that Allah is a seperate Arabic word for an Arabian Deity. Allah and Eloah are the same word pronounced differently because of the Accent. The plural Eloahim is in Arabic Allahum, the letters that form them are * alif LEM AND HAMZA or a l h , )

Christian arabs that reach back to Jesus have been using this word to refer to the * ONE GOD* OR THE GOD* Which is the meaning of Allah. Though the pagan Arabs began to use it to, they created even daughters for him but they always were sacred to Allah and created other deities. If you pick up an Arabic bible the word Allah is scattered thoughout.

The Moon God theory is not only been refuted by hundreds of Muslim scholars, but even coptic christians laugh a little at the silly assertion. People need to copy and pasting ,

Okay, but you need to further understand what is going on there. Jesus was quoting scriptures. The Psalms to be precise. And these were written in Hebrew so it is more likely that Jesus said those words in Hebrew and not Aramaic. Unless Jesus decided to quote it in translation.

Would you say that the ancient canaanite diety El is the same as Allah?

shakerz:

The word ALLAH precedes the Arabs and the coptic Chrsitians before even Mohammed and the Arabs of Qureish were using it. Just visit egypt and syria and yemen, the generational arab who are still christian claim that word is there,  its true that the Arabs started to associate the names of gods like hubal and manat and so on with smaller dieties after they became polythestic(remember they are the children of ISHMAEL) but for Allah they never made idols except for his -daughers,

the point is that ALLAH goes back to the tongue of Jesus, and the prove i posted in the damn dictionary,

What does Allah mean? WTF, watch the damn 2 minutes clips, shesesh

Eloah comes from Elohim(the im is royal plural) Allah is the Arabic prouncation of Eloah which means the God. Eloah and Allah are the same word, same letters ( A L H ARE THE TRIANGULAR ROOTS) but pronounced slightly different.

READ THIS SHIT ON YOUR OWN BY THE WAY

HERE ARE OTHER WORDS FOR GOD

SYRIAC GOD IS ALAHA IN GREEK IT IS TRANSLATED AS ELO-I AND so on


The problem is that you forgot that Jesus was middle eastern and that the language he spoke was close to arabic, you think christianity came from europe, gawd your soooo dumb, AM NOT EVEN MUSLIM YET I KNOW THIS, GO TO WIKIPEDIA OR ENCLOYPEDIA, its common knowledge for people who are not brainwashed christians

can this deluded IGNORAMUS trace the historical origin of the demonic-islamic moon-god called allah?

Hahahaha i can see noetic is short of words. Allahu akbar the truth is good all the time

Banom u don start again abi ? If i call tpiah you will behave urself

Abuzola:

Hahahaha i can see noetic is short of words. Allahu akbar the truth is good all the time

where u expecting me to give credence to his baseless assertions?

What a man, what do you do when challenge ? Refutation my guy, refute, too bad you have to let it go becos u re short of words

what EXACTLY has he said that I should refute? . . , . .the IGNORAMUS has no idea as to the origin of allah?

Hahahaha i said it

Abuzola:

Banom u don start again abi ? If i call tpiah you will behave urself

hahhahahaa, call the Monkey , let me deal with her.

Oh, k

@poster, good luck in what ever religion you choose, at least u believe in God

Neotic is the dumbest NL member i think.

Oh my God,must you guys stir this thing?