plappville:


They have forgotten that, Muhammad wouldn't have gotten the ideal of fabricating Islam if he had not read the bible.

Perhaps:


Here we go again.

You guys never get tired of spewing trash.

Please, do tell me, dear all-islamic-knower, what historical book or record you got the crap that Muhammad (SAW) lived with the pope.
Please, enlighten us.


I don't know if Tesbim is even a word but to prove your ignorance, THE PROPHET NEVER USED A ROSARY .
A rosary, as generally believed by every (knowledgeable) Muslim is an addition to the religion.
The prophet never for once used or mandated anyone to use it.

Down to the Eleha.
I mean, let's be realistic.
Did you actually really believe anyone would for even a minute believe the crap you wrote up there?
Oh. Please.
Muhammad lived in Saudi Arabia.
The pope we all know lived and still lives in Rome.
So, tell me again when Muhammad stayed with the Pope, learnt how make women wear hijabs, saw the rosary.


I admit I might not know much about the religion as I'd like to but the little I know is better to rebuke the likes of you and is good enough for me to find favor in God.

Please, do mention the things you can't mention here.
If you believe you know as much as you claim, mention the things you know and let's see them.
You might never know, we could get to learn something from it.

OH. Yeah. The ablution is what else?
Hit me.
What is the ablution?

LOL.
The Quran needs a new testament.
The Quran is perfect.
Picture Perfect.
Time Perfect.
Reading Perfect.
By saying the Quran needs a new testament, I'm sure you're expecting men filled with holy ghosts to get into the spirit and start writing it abi?
Nah.
We ain't like that in the religion.
LOL. We don't get taken by imaginary spirits(lol. The thought of it gets me every time. I mean, I can't imagine myself waking up in the night and screaming "Ayayabayabakdifnabaybaaabayabaybajdjdbbayabaybfjdhabahab" " and possibly appear coherent to anyone.) to do the willing of a home bastard deity.


Am tired of typing.
Am tired of laughing at people like you.
The problem with lost of you Christians is that you keep recycling the see very much old arguments that you've used over the years that have been rebuked by so many different brothers and sisters in this forum. You've got nothing new to bring up.
We're tired of that.
Come up with new things.
NNew challenges for us.



FinaFinally, my advise to you is this.
Quit the charade.
SStop deceiving people you know Islam when all you know are the lame posts on anti-islamic websites.
Now, go to your room.
Lock yourself up.
Pick up the copy of a translated Quran.
Read. Read and Read.
When you've read and understand it, then pick up a hadith collection.. Then read, read and read again.


Then, when you find a fault in all of those, come back here and asks genuine questions.

Salam.

gimakon:


I had an argument with a muslim one day, a reasonable one. When I told him Islam was born from christendom, he said I was lying ,that Islam was even born before other religions. I decided to make him understand and show him that he didn't have a single idea of what Islam stood for.

It was after then I figured out most of these fellows don't have a glimpse of what the Quran says.

The Quran is the copy paste of the bible, and mohamed lived in the house of the Pope. It was then when he went to Hira, he founded and created the Islamic religion and started having followers. To make the religion look more like an interesting one, he adopted the tesbim, which is the rosary of the roman catholic church, the way the nuns of the Catholic Church dress, that's how this their women they call "eleha" dress, and even the ablution is something else.

I even explained to him things he never understood that was practised and still practised in the church, I am an Anglican and we got most things from the Catholic Church, even the apostles and nicine creed, are based on some catholic doctrines of the roman catholic church.

These ones in nairaland, I don't blame them, they don't know jack about the Islamic religion. The religion claims to be very strict and many has lost their lives serving their god. I went on to ask him some questions which I wouldn't ask here for some reasons, truth be told, he hasn't heard that kind of thing I asked him before.

The antiquated reasoning of Islam and the Quran is the major problem of Islamic Adherents. The Quran needs a new testament.

hanity:

Sure Ma the day is glorious but is it glorious for all of us

plappville:

How do you manage sharing two tears each passing day woman? The day is GLORIOUS yet you shed bitter tears? Keep making fool of yourself

Demmzy15:
How and when was he able to do that, start talking please!

aminusanti:

enlighthen urself first wicked soul

* Is Jesus GoD?
* is old testament authentic?
* who was the GOD in OT that issued all the killings in OT ? wasn't that ur GOD jesus?
senseless pple

plappville:



Bukhari 4.829
 
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
 
The Jews came to Allah's Apostle [Muhamed] and told him that a man and a woman from amongst them had committed illegal sexual intercourse. Allah's Apostle said to them, "What do you find in the Torah [old Testament] about the legal punishment of Ar-Rajm (stoning)?" They replied, [But] we announce their crime and lash them." Abdullah bin Salam said, "You are telling a lie; Torah contains the order of Rajm." They brought and opened the Torah and one of them solaced his hand on the Verse of Rajm and read the verses preceding and following it. Abdullah bin Salam said to him, "Lift your hand." When he lifted his hand, the Verse of Rajm was written there. They said, "Muhammad has told the truth; the Torah has the Verse of Rajm. The Prophet then gave the order that both of them should be stoned to death. ('Abdullah bin 'Umar said, "I saw the man leaning over the woman to shelter her from the stones."
 
As you can see, the above Hadith confirms that the Torah existed during Muhammad's time and that he believed in it and used it as a source.

Muhammad had no doubt of the torah or bible as you muslims do today.

Instead, He chose to use it as a certified source.

There are several proofs that he knows much about the Jewish and Christian book while he was fabricating Islam.

jared007:
My brother of a truth God issued the killings of the canaanites in the OT and i will tell u why. The canaanites and amalekites were aggressive people involved in bestiality, incest, child sacrifice etc. The Canaanites sin was so repellent that God said, the land vomited out its inhabitants (Lev 18:25). Gods destruction was on canaanite religion and not on the ethnic people per se (Deut 7:3-5, 12:2-3). Remember that Rahab the Canaanite woman was spared becos she repented? (Josh ch2). God is interested in people repenting than dying (Ezek 18:31-32, 33:11). God gave the canaanites 400yrs to repent (Gen 15:13-16). The canaanites were aware of Gods power but refused repentance (Josh 2: 10-11; 9:9).

plappville:


Of a truth, YOU have just confirmed my previous comment. ..

Stop F O O L I N G urself woman..or you will start to shed three type of tears each passing day...

aminusanti:


ok good. Before i proceed explaining anything i want to verify few questions from you below
* You believe GOD ordered the destruction of Canaanites?
* is it the same GOD that appeared as Jesus or a different GOD?
* what makes the GOD of Moses(pbh) and Mohammad(pbh) different?

jared007:
* You believe GOD ordered the destruction of Canaanites?
For the first question yes!

* is it the same GOD that appeared as Jesus or a different GOD?
For the second question yes but theres a difference between God and His Word(jesus). The Word of God proceeds 4rm God to get things done. Its that Word that became a man called Jesus!

For the last question Allah is different 4rm the Christians God becos Allah recognises Moses but sees Jesus as a common man but the Christians God recognises Moses and made Jesus the only way to reach Him.(John 14:5-7).

The Christians God also gave opportunity for Moses to visit Jesus at the Mount of Transfiguration. My brother has Moses visited Mohammed?

TopeQs:

I'm a Muslim, proud of my religion..... I don't know what you think you know about Islam but I'm sure you know next to nothing about Islam..
I'm not just a Muslim by birth, I also read well about Islam, if I wasn't Muslim by birth I'd have changed my religion because of the fact I know now.


by the way, you can't be the one to tell me who a true Muslim is, how much do you know MUHAMMAD?

you just shouldn't say what you don't know.....

hanity:

Subhanallah,Beware of how you speak,God can't be mocked.I pray its not after death you start regretting all these

true2god:
Are you a lady? If 'yes' you really disappointed me. Women are the greatest victim of Islam.

Do know that Mohammed approved having sex with female war captives?

Do you know that Mohammed, your greatest man ever, married baby Aisha when when was 6 and started sleeping with her when she became 9?

Do you know that Mohammed slept with a Jewish lady, called safiya, after killing her husband and parent?

Do you know that safiya was a war booty which Mohammed bought from Dhiya for the exchange of 7 slaves slaves after the battle of khaibar (sunnah ibn majah volume 3 hadith number 2272)?

Do you know that Mohammed approved a husband beating his wife (Quran 4:34)? Do you know that Mohammed married his adopted son's wife after visiting him (zaid) and saw his wife half naked? (Quran 33:37, al-tabari volume 8 page 2 to 4)?

You dont seem to know you religion or your prophet.

annunaki2:


Most NL muslims know these terrible things about mohammed and even much worse things that you have not listed here but they have been brainwashed from birth to this terrible character as 'the best of mankind' so their screwed up brain cannot process the fact that what he did is wrong, rather they try to justify it. today the moral decadence, backwardness and terrorism in the islamic world is being justified withe sunnah of mohammed which all good muslims are expected to emulate.

jared007:
Hey aminusanti, the first question has already been explained which u ignored. Palestine(Canaan and environs) was the only country God supplanted and willed to Israel by violent justice becos of their numerous perversions and evils whereas Allah and Mohammed sanctioned the senseless killings of innocent peeps dat didnt hurt a fly.

For the second question, Jesus is God becos he is the Word of God and not a Messanger. God exists as The Father, His Word and His Spirit! Is ur word or voice not part of u? Anyway i dont expect u to understand becos it cant be understood by a carnal mind.

jared007:
aminusanti i ve explained d first question earlier with scriptural proofs. Read my first comment again. The Israelites simply went to take their possession 4rm the murderous Canaanites without attacking any other country

and besides they didnt fight to force God down d THROATS OF CANAANITES but for the LAND

while Islam has been murdering people all over d world since the time of Mohammed.

Israel never attacked Egypt in the bible.

The answer to ur last question is in 1John 5: 7. Read it.

true2god:
Are you a lady? If 'yes' you really disappointed me. Women are the greatest victim of Islam.

Do know that Mohammed approved having sex with female war captives?

Do you know that Mohammed, your greatest man ever, married baby Aisha when when was 6 and started sleeping with her when she became 9?

Do you know that Mohammed slept with a Jewish lady, called safiya, after killing her husband and parent?

Do you know that safiya was a war booty which Mohammed bought from Dhiya for the exchange of 7 slaves slaves after the battle of khaibar (sunnah ibn majah volume 3 hadith number 2272)?

Do you know that Mohammed approved a husband beating his wife (Quran 4:34)? Do you know that Mohammed married his adopted son's wife after visiting him (zaid) and saw his wife half naked? (Quran 33:37, al-tabari volume 8 page 2 to 4)?

You dont seem to know you religion or your prophet.

Demmzy15:


You claimed Muhammad(saw) read and copied from the bible, but the ahadith you presented doesn't show that at all. Please give me reliable proofs how Muhammad(saw) read and applied the bible for Muslims, as you can clearly see the Jews came to him to request him to punish adulterers.

Narrated by Ubaidullah: Ibn 'Abbas said, "Why do you ask the people of the scripture about anything while your Book (Quran) which has been revealed to Allah's Apostle is newer and the latest? You read it pure, undistorted and unchanged, and Allah has told you that the people of the scripture (Jews and Christians) changed their scripture and distorted it, and wrote the scripture with their own hands and said, 'It is from Allah,' to sell it for a little gain. Does not the knowledge which has come to you prevent you from asking them about anything? No, by Allah, we have never seen any man from them asking you regarding what has been revealed to you!" (Bukhari Volume 9, Book 92, Number 461)

Proofs please!



You can start presenting them, or better still open a thread for that,so as you can humiliated in this world and on the hereafter!

hanity:


A word is enough for the wise!All i know is islam is the way

plappville:


Yet you shed bitter tears each glorious day? Use your tongue to count your teeth woman!

plappville:


Muhammad asked them because He knew about the stoning to death in the torah.

Even if He was an illiterate. His companion Abdullah bin Salam was a Rabbi before he converted to Islam. Read this Sura with open mind and stop arguing blindly.

Bukhari 4.829
 
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
 
[size=15pt]The Jews came to Allah's Apostle [Muhamed][/size] and told him that a man and a woman from amongst them had committed illegal sexual intercourse. Allah's Apostle said to them , " What do you find in the Torah about the legal punishment of Ar-Rajm (stoning)?" They replied, [But] we announce their crime and lash them." Abdullah bin Salam said, "You are telling a lie; Torah contains the order of Rajm." They brought and opened the Torah and one of them solaced his hand on the Verse of Rajm and read the verses preceding and following it. Abdullah bin Salam said to him, "Lift your hand." When he lifted his hand, the Verse of Rajm was written there. They said, "Muhammad has told the truth; the Torah has the Verse of Rajm. The Prophet then gave the order that both of them should be stoned to death. ('Abdullah bin 'Umar said, "I saw the man leaning over the woman to shelter her from the stones

What truth Muhammad told if he didnt know about the stoning to death verse in the torah? He knew it that was why he asked them.

I dont have time to post more to you if you cannot accept this glaring proof. Then which one will you accept?

As usual, Another contradiction in Islam...
Yet Muhammad confirmed the OT and NT in the quran umm?

See Muhammad's words in the quran as follow:

1) 3:50 - "I come to confirm the Torah which preceded me..."

2) 5:46 - "After them we sent forth Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming the Torah already revealed
[/color]

if Man could change or corrupt the word of God during the time of Moses, Jesus and God could not preserve his word as He promised, is it with Muhammad He can preserve it?

Even if i present to you all the proofs, you will still argue them.

Where do you think Muhammad got the ideal of Forming his own religion from? The stoning to death verses, the prohibition of pig etc were all copied.

He did it because He was despirate to convince the Jews He was truely sent. I can present you only two eye opening articles on this subject, will your biased mind allow you see the truth?

hanity:

Lmao!And what are you?A bigger disgrace!At what age did you start having sex?And dont you still go about sleeping with cats and dogs around all in the name of civilization.See who seem to know more about other people's religion,wonderful!

Talking about sleeping with kids,i guess it would have been better if you got married earlier than just keep giving ur body to guys free and easily like a condemned damaged goods!

jared007:
People paid for their sins tru death in OT becos sin hadnt been atoned for dats why God sent his word to die for us. Now God, his word and his spirit reaches out to save d sinful world tru d preaching of the good news. Throughout history christians ve never slaughtered unbelievers but d reverse is the case with islam which came about 600yrs since Lord Jesus ascended back to heaven. As for the issue of 1jn5:7, dat verse of scripture was probably deliberately omitted 4rm those modern bibles to mislead. The trinity is manifested in Gen 1, Jesus is confirmed as God in John 1verse 1 to the end aminusanti