ifenes:
Christianity is a wheelchair for the hopeless,weak,unintelligent and gullible. If you have much to do and less time,religion won't cross your mind,not to talk of defending an unknown deity. I may sound a bit harsh,but I had to say it

Respect Bro!

Christianity is not efficient in terms of allocation of time resources. I see no reason why faith should be directed towards circumstances that doesn't correlate with nature and reality.

The God standard in the Bible is very primitive and ain't fit enough to be tagged an intelligent designer unless it only takes foolishness and primitiveness to become one.

The God of any religion didn't meet the standard of an intelligent designer.

winner01:
But I dont believe in superstitions and atheists are not in control of the natural.

you no longer believe in the supernatural?
The laws of nature control the natural oga..
Does yahweh control gravity?

hopefulLandlord:


I don't understand how this proves anything

those theists who found answers found it "in spite" of their religion and not "because" of their religion

stop dwelling on wrong assumptions

Bottomline those theists who found answers were theists. Be it that they found answers because of their religion or not does not matter. Their foundation was theism.

Do you not disprove with your very words right here that theists are dumb and unable to think and lack intelligence?

winner01:
I dont dwell on things that are not true, i dont think your children will live like you.

you're so fixated on children; my children would make their own choices not the pathetic indoctrination done by religious people lime you

I am here to expose the foolishness of having imaginary friends
.

4everGod:


Bottomline those theists who found answers were theists. Be it that they found answers because of their religion or not does not matter. Their foundation was theism.

Do you not disprove with your very words right here that theists are dumb and unable to think and lack intelligence?

when did I say that?

you're making shit up again, just like those that created Yahweh

HCpaul:


Respect Bro!

Christianity is not efficient in terms of allocation of time resources. I see no reason why faith should be directed towards circumstances that doesn't correlate with nature and reality.

The God standard in the Bible is very primitive and ain't fit enough to be tagged an intelligent designer unless it only takes foolishness to become one.

I suppose you are suddenly now light years ahead of our time now that you are an atheist.

HCpaul:



The God standard in the Bible is very primitive and ain't fit enough to be tagged an intelligent designer unless it only takes foolishness to become one.

thank you@the bolded..

hopefulLandlord:


when did I say that?

you're making shit up again, just like those that created Yahweh

You need to read your post again. You know you have always had a weakness I know of so read your post again

4everGod:


You need to read your post again. You know you have always had a weakness I know of so read your post again

oga point it out and stop the rigmarole

4everGod:


Bottomline those theists who found answers were theists. Be it that they found answers because of their religion or not does not matter. Their foundation was theism.

Do you not disprove with your very words right here that theists are dumb and unable to think and lack intelligence?

bros..they used their brain outside of religion..
If they had adhered to what's taught in the holy books they wouldnt have done so.

@hopefullandlord so you cannot see the way you killed your own argument with your own words? Words you thought about first before typing down? Smh

hopefulLandlord:


what people regard as "supernatural" is simply mysteries we are yet to unravel

500 years ago, almost all humans on earth believes thunder, rain and other things to be controlled by the supernatural even created gods out of it

today we know better, hell, Dubai can make rain fall right now over there if they want to

that's the same fallacy you're applying here

anyways, lest we lose track statistics show prayers don't work

Abeg where is the statistics on prayer, as u claim?

raphieMontella:

bros..they used their brain outside of religion..
If they had adhered to what's taught in the holy books they wouldnt have done so.

Even you are shooting yourself in the foot here. If they could use their brains inspite of religion then how did you arrive at the fact that religion is intellectual bondage?

felixomor:


Brother
Yeah,
According to his logic,
If u use paracetamol for headache and it "doesn't work" for him,
Automatically, u can conclude "paracetamol doesn't exist".

Hehehe, typical atheist logic.

lol
You dey mind dem

@4evergod

I ain't got time for useless back and forth

simply quote where I said theists can't think for themselves and are unintelligent

hopefulLandlord:


I don't understand how this proves anything

those theists who found answers found it "in spite" of their religion and not "because" of their religion

stop dwelling on wrong assumptions

Where did their belief ask them not to find answers?
We keep finding answers. 100 years from now, ther will be more answers. Will you say religion is why we cant find today the answers we will find over the next 100 years?

raphieMontella:

you no longer believe in the supernatural?
The laws of nature control the natural oga..
Does yahweh control gravity?

Yahweh created gravity.

hopefulLandlord:
@4evergod

I ain't got time for useless back and forth

simply quote where I said theists can't think for themselves and are unintelligent

That has been your anthem all along whenever atheists lay claim to this. Even your comment clearly said theists found answers and were not based on religion....interpretation. ..religion hinders the quest for answers...

You really need to be quick on your feet when thinking and making comments.

Religion is all about spiritual development and never stands in the way of physical development.

hopefulLandlord:

you're so fixated on children; my children would make their own choices not the pathetic indoctrination done by religious people lime you

I am here to expose the foolishness of having imaginary friends
.

Would you take them to the church as well as strip clubs and allow them to choose for themselves, or would you choose for them what you think is right even though right and wrong does not exist.

When they eventually see the foolishness in your worldview and embrace God, wouldnt you have wasted your life?

4everGod:



I suppose you are suddenly now light years ahead of our time now that you are an atheist.

That HCPaul is something else, only God can help him.

4everGod:



Even you are shooting yourself in the foot here. If they could use their brains inspite of religion then how did you arrive at the fact that religion is intellectual bondage?

their views and findings were contradictory to the beliefs of their religion or their religious books which was supposed to be the word of a creator deity...
By todays standards..they would be what you term ''church goers''.

winner01:
That HCPaul is something else, only God can help him.

Lol he must have a house on the moon or a garage in the clouds bow that he is an atheist.

raphieMontella:

bros..they used their brain outside of religion..
If they had adhered to what's taught in the holy books they wouldnt have done so.

Can you tell us the verse in the Holy Book that is against what they did?

winner01:
Where did their belief ask them not to find answers?
We keep finding answers. 100 years from now, ther will be more answers. Will you say religion is why we cant find today the answers we will find over the next 100 years?

and the answers found will keep on making theists to take their holy books from ''literal to fictional'' and inevitablly discard it.

winner01:

Would you take them to the church as well as strip clubs and allow them to choose for themselves, or would you choose for them what you think is right even though right and wrong does not exist.

Last time I checked, children aren't allowed into strip clubs, dig deeper for better example, you're capable of that

When they eventually see the foolishness in your worldview and embrace God, wouldnt you have wasted your life?

when you eventually see the foolishness in your views and embrace atheism, wouldn't you have wasted your life?

raphieMontella:

their views and findings were contradictory to the beliefs of their religion or their religious books which was supposed to be the word of a creator deity...
By todays standards..they would be what you term ''church goers''.

Prof.!!!

Why are you lying?

Just say they were atheists

raphieMontella:

their views and findings were contradictory to the beliefs of their religion or their religious books which was supposed to be the word of a creator deity...
By todays standards..they would be what you term ''church goers''.

Wrong! Their views and findings helped in confirming the existence of intelligence and an intelligent designer. Those discoveries actually compliment religion and not refute it.

Science is the finger of nature pointing at a creator but only upholders of truth will attest to this.

Why its actually called a discovery is because it has been there all along but only now visible. Inventions are just extensions of nature and further proof of intelligence behind the universe as only intelligence can birth complexity.

winner01:
Can you tell us the verse in the Holy Book that is against what they did?

religion at that time usually supressed scientific knowledge...terming it ''hearsay'' and tools of the ''devil''
theres a bible verse o...which says we shouldnt
but im saying if they had kept on believing what was passed on in ''holy books'' as truth of the world...they wouldnt !

hopefulLandlord:

Last time I checked, children aren't allowed into strip clubs, dig deeper for better example, you're capable of that



when you eventually see the foolishness in your views and embrace atheism, wouldn't you have wasted your life?

You'll need to expose them to both sides so they can choose for themselves, anything short of that is indoctrination. Please dont forget to come back here and tell us what they chose.

I wouldnt have wasted my life. I've been irreligious, ive been a lukeworm christian, ive been a christian no better than an atheist, but now im a true born again christian. Im also enjoying my life to the fullest.

I've lived that life you speak about, that life which seems right unto man, that life which ends in destruction.
Jesus is Life my brother.
Stop fighting.

4everGod:



Lol he must have a house on the moon or a garage in the clouds bow that he is an atheist.

lol.
Its just plain delusional.

raphieMontella:

religion at that time usually supressed scientific knowledge...terming it ''hearsay'' and tools of the ''devil''
theres a bible verse o...which says we shouldnt
but im saying if they had kept on believing what was passed on in ''holy books'' as truth of the world...they wouldnt !

It wasn't religion that stood in the way of such...it was human ignorance. Some of the church leaders then had authority but were ignorant in their authority so mixed Religion and their authority as knowledge hence their position against science.

Don't kill yourself over this. Even here on nairaland the critical thinkers in the face of arguments have been theists and facts confirm this. We think and present fresh facts and fresh arguments but all atheists here do a mirror effect on each other and regurgitate each others arguments over and over again and this has never changed for the past 20 or so odd years

raphieMontella:

and the answers found will keep on making theists to take their holy books from ''literal to fictional'' and inevitablly discard it.

Lol.

Some people said this 500 years ago, im sure they will still say it in 500 years time, if Jesus tarries.