Liability:
Benin people are fearless

yoloba people are coward..... Fearful like a derange girl.


Yoruba makes sound like this when they are scared, " yee yee yee yee yee mo ti ku oooo"

check his trouser, there is urine in it already.

Ontarget:

And yet there is widespread poverty and hunger. Who has the "superb culture" helped?

IEDA:
Actually it is the bini blood that flows in every yoruba monarch...if you have studied the history of ekhaladeran/oduduwa you'll know this but from your name i can see that you've been in the bush for way to long to know where sanity lies...

MENELIK1:

Yoruba grew to an empire in pre colonial history, they defeated the fulanis at the battle of Osogbo in 1840, then your fore fathers were walking naked, forget what the Osus are saying about Yoruba people they are yet to recover from 1967-1970 bashing from gallant Yoruba soldiers. Lastly it is wrong to make comparison between the Yorubas and the Benins rather compare benin with sectional Yoruba like the Ijebus, egbas and the rest but don't use Ibadan, it is almost like the size of Edo state. Man Pass man, no be by mouth

domido:
there are two kingdoms in the world; Benin kingdom and United kingdom.

MrPresident1:
When they are through with all the rights in Benin, Omonoba son of Oba must first visit Ile-Ife, the ancestral and spiritual home of his forebears to pay homage to the chief priest of Oduduwa, the Ooni.

When he is through with Ile-Ife, he will now visit Oyo, to greet the Alaafin.

Udmaster:
Why are yorubas trying to claim Benin? Leave them alone.
Oba of Benin is the ORIGINAL OBA. every other oba is just an imitation.
Smh Conies

Liability:
yea u r right. Come and collect ilorin na. Fulani have been nyashing u people in ur back yard. More emirs in Yoruba land.

cekhoe:
on point, to think they brought up that evidently fake story about how oduduwa or whatever brought sand and a chicken used his feet to spread the sand and that was how the earth was formed, all in the name of trying to claim supremacy.At least they should have cooked up a better lie that will be believable to all, let them keep waiting for him to come and pay homage to their appointed oba. Oba gha tor okperé, Ise!

MENELIK1:

We have gone beyond that, an Oba in Benin and an Olu in Warri, Yoruba rules, forget osu Igbos!

macof:


Nah. . bini people have been showing for some years that they want to be as far away from yoruba as possible. .it's cus they can't stand staying around us without feeling intimidated which the bini pride cannot accept.

but we claim what is ours - The Oba of Benin. .who is a yoruba son

aycorporat:

God bless you for the enlightenment sir. that brings me to another question is the ogiso lineage different from other era of Obas or it was just some break? Besides who was Queen Idia and how important was she to Benin history? thank you so much

2dugged:
hehehehe, yorubas have it all, from backstabbing, to eye service, to slimmy and corky, and now to spreading of fables just to feel good about themselves, we Binis know exactly who we are and all those stupid fables have been proven to be all lies with glaring facts, so afonja and all those waiting to see the oba of Benin in Ile ife, una go wait tire, the oba will be crowned and the sky will not fall, and he will do so with any worthless visit to the afonjas, get that into your thick skulls you and your eye service afonjas on this thread

2dugged:
hehehehe, yorubas have it all, from backstabbing, to eye service, to slimmy and corky, and now to spreading of fables just to feel good about themselves, we Binis know exactly who we are and all those stupid fables have been proven to be all lies with glaring facts, so afonja and all those waiting to see the oba of Benin in Ile ife, una go wait tire, the oba will be crowned and the sky will not fall, and he will do so with any worthless visit to the afonjas, get that into your thick skulls you and your eye service afonjas on this thread

AreaFada2:


The break between Ogiso era & post Ogiso era is where the famous Benin-Ife/Yoruba controversy stems from. It boils over from time to time.

Over the years, I have commented on them. They are still here to be seen.

To begin with, I am a Benin-Yoruba hybrid & clarity & truth in the matter is most important to me than one side striving to claim superiority.

Ogiso Owodo was the last Ogiso. The break came because there was no heir. This is called the interregnum period.

Prince Ekaladerhan was the heir to Owodo. But the Prince's step-mother called Esagho schemed to get him killed. Faking a message from an oracle priest, and claiming that only his death would avert disaster in Benin. Sadly & reluctantly Owo accepted it, for the welfare of his Kingdom.

But the Isiewmenro (Royal Executioners) who took the prince to the forest to sacrifice could not bear to kill him. They made him swear an Oath never to return to Benin but run for his dear life. He did. He travelled towards Owo (70 miles due North-West of Benin). Then he moved towards a village now called Ife. Ife is also roughly 70 miles West of Owo. So he entered Ife from the East. A prediction Ife people had been given about a ruler coming from the East. With time Esagho could not produce an heir as she had hoped. Owodo later got suspicious and sent other emissaries to the oraclist. That was when the scam was revealed. But it had become known that Ekaladerhan through divinity was in fact alive but he could not be traced in Owodo's life time. So the crown remained vacant. But Evian (now Ogiamien family) became ruler as the most powerful local chieftain of Igodomigodo (as Benin was called then) but NOT a King.

In the meantime, Ekaladerhan has found fortune in Ife & made king. He exclaimed that "Izoduwa" meaning I have been favoured/achieved my destiny. This became Ododuwa. A similar corruption of name would happen Ododuwa's grandson in Benin two generations later. The exclamation "Owomika" in Youruba became Eweka I of Benin. In fact my relative is the duke/chief of the ancient village (actually now part of Benin metropolis) where Eweka made that exclamation in About 1170 AD. In just over a week from now, The Crown Prince will be making a similar exclamation near my relative's ducal palace. That exclamation is what his Title & name will become for life. And all his descendants will henceforth bear that name as surname. Except his first son who will chose his own regnal name when crowned in the future.

Ekaladerhan was known to be alive already so the search continued for decades. Until he was traced to Ife. He rfused to return, having sworn an oath not to. But he sent his son "Omonoyan", basically meaning beloved child. What was called Oranmiyan by Ife people. Oranmiyan was accompanied by yoruba courtiers including Oloton. Chief Oloton today remains in charge of Royal ancestral shrine. Oranmiyan's son Eweka I restored the monarchy in Ogiso line. Benin people were ready to keep the stool vacant for decades then, just like they did while Ovonramwen was in exile in Calabar for 17 years.

So Ife people came to be very welcome in Benin & seen as our relatives. Even after Oranmiyan left.

Now we all know Yoruba versions of Ododuwa: from coming from the Sky to coming from Mecca. Judge for yourself what is scientifically possible.

Idia was the mother of Oba Esigie. Esigie ruled from 1504 to 1550. Idia was the wife of Oba Ozolua. Both her husband and son go down in history as successful warrior Kings/emperors.

She was a warrior Queen Mother with her own Royal Regiment personally commanded by her at war front. She played a major role in helping Esigie expand the empire. Europeans even accompanied Esigie to wars in Eastern Yorubaland & extolled Benin war tactics including Ifianyako (encirclement) of enemy soldiers.
This Epistle won't change anything, let the Oba of Benin change his title to something not Yoruba, then we can take the Benin people serious

MENELIK1:

I challenge the Oba of Benin and you to spell the word "OBA" using Benin alphabets

Liability:
oba of kano, kaduna,borno? Biitch please. Afonja!

macof:


no bini Person will talk like this. igbo man claiming bini
filthy thing

2dugged:
the symbol is not here, the O is Ó upside down

MENELIK1:
Please address the topic!

inikamoze:
If I hear say rain fall for Benin throughout the coronation ceremony...make I half.

AreaFada2:


The break between Ogiso era & post Ogiso era is where the famous Benin-Ife/Yoruba controversy stems from. It boils over from time to time.

Over the years, I have commented on them. They are still here to be seen.

To begin with, I am a Benin-Yoruba hybrid & clarity & truth in the matter is most important to me than one side striving to claim superiority.

Ogiso Owodo was the last Ogiso. The break came because there was no heir. This is called the interregnum period.

Prince Ekaladerhan was the heir to Owodo. But the Prince's step-mother called Esagho schemed to get him killed. Faking a message from an oracle priest, and claiming that only his death would avert disaster in Benin. Sadly & reluctantly Owo accepted it, for the welfare of his Kingdom.

But the Isiewmenro (Royal Executioners) who took the prince to the forest to sacrifice could not bear to kill him. They made him swear an Oath never to return to Benin but run for his dear life. He did. He travelled towards Owo (70 miles due North-West of Benin). Then he moved towards a village now called Ife. Ife is also roughly 70 miles West of Owo. So he entered Ife from the East. A prediction Ife people had been given about a ruler coming from the East. With time Esagho could not produce an heir as she had hoped. Owodo later got suspicious and sent other emissaries to the oraclist. That was when the scam was revealed. But it had become known that Ekaladerhan through divinity was in fact alive but he could not be traced in Owodo's life time. So the crown remained vacant. But Evian (now Ogiamien family) became ruler as the most powerful local chieftain of Igodomigodo (as Benin was called then) but NOT a King.

In the meantime, Ekaladerhan has found fortune in Ife & made king. He exclaimed that "Izoduwa" meaning I have been favoured/achieved my destiny. This became Ododuwa. A similar corruption of name would happen Ododuwa's grandson in Benin two generations later. The exclamation "Owomika" in Youruba became Eweka I of Benin. In fact my relative is the duke/chief of the ancient village (actually now part of Benin metropolis) where Eweka made that exclamation in About 1170 AD. In just over a week from now, The Crown Prince will be making a similar exclamation near my relative's ducal palace. That exclamation is what his Title & name will become for life. And all his descendants will henceforth bear that name as surname. Except his first son who will chose his own regnal name when crowned in the future.

Ekaladerhan was known to be alive already so the search continued for decades. Until he was traced to Ife. He rfused to return, having sworn an oath not to. But he sent his son "Omonoyan", basically meaning beloved child. What was called Oranmiyan by Ife people. Oranmiyan was accompanied by yoruba courtiers including Oloton. Chief Oloton today remains in charge of Royal ancestral shrine. Oranmiyan's son Eweka I restored the monarchy in Ogiso line. Benin people were ready to keep the stool vacant for decades then, just like they did while Ovonramwen was in exile in Calabar for 17 years.

So Ife people came to be very welcome in Benin & seen as our relatives. Even after Oranmiyan left.

Now we all know Yoruba versions of Ododuwa: from coming from the Sky to coming from Mecca. Judge for yourself what is scientifically possible.

Idia was the mother of Oba Esigie. Esigie ruled from 1504 to 1550. Idia was the wife of Oba Ozolua. Both her husband and son go down in history as successful warrior Kings/emperors.

She was a warrior Queen Mother with her own Royal Regiment personally commanded by her at war front. She played a major role in helping Esigie expand the empire. Europeans even accompanied Esigie to wars in Eastern Yorubaland & extolled Benin war tactics including Ifianyako (encirclement) of enemy soldiers.

MENELIK1:

Yoruba grew to an empire in pre colonial history, they defeated the fulanis at the battle of Osogbo in 1840, then your fore fathers were walking naked, forget what the Osus are saying about Yoruba people they are yet to recover from 1967-1970 bashing from gallant Yoruba soldiers. Lastly it is wrong to make comparison between the Yorubas and the Benins rather compare benin with sectional Yoruba like the Ijebus, egbas and the rest but don't use Ibadan, it is almost like the size of Edo state. Man Pass man, no be by mouth

macof:


who told you this? Ekaladerhan
bini and inferiority complex towards yorubas is just epic. And it wasn't always like this o. .. There was a time Bini were proudly in brotherhood with the Yoruba kingdoms

macof:


Nah. . bini people have been showing for some years that they want to be as far away from yoruba as possible. .it's cus they can't stand staying around us without feeling intimidated which the bini pride cannot accept.

but we claim what is ours - The Oba of Benin. .who is a yoruba son

MENELIK1:

I challenge the Oba of Benin and you to spell the word "OBA" using Benin alphabets

Ubenedictus:
OR because one ooni was intimidated by akensua and thought the best way to exult himself was to call akensua his son, instead of father and elder brother.

Ubenedictus:
Until ooni made the mistake of calling the oba his son during a curtesy visit.

who has inferiority complex? akensua who visited or d ooni who was trying to exult himself, fantasizing dat d oba is his son.

macof:
well oranmiyan is a son of oodua, ooni is Odua. and the oba of benin is a son of the son of oodua. so infact the oba of benin is the Ooni`s grandson . wishing thinking and lying to yourself wont change a thing.

macof:
why would ooni call akensua father and elder brother... infact how can one be father and elder brother to the same person use ur head

Ubenedictus:
Here we disagree, here bini and yoruba disagree, ooni and omo n'oba disagree. and naturally binis wil reject ur land claiming advances.