Igboid:

Well, it's a complex issue. No one single answer to it. But we can all agree that it's deeply rooted on the clannish nature of an Igbo man.

His first allegiance is to his immediate family, his extended family, village, town,clan, state, and then ethnic group.
He doesn't believe anyone else can take care of his family, village, town, state, ethnic group, more than himself, his family members, his town members, his state members, his clan members, his ethnic group members, as the case may be.

It breeds a sense of suspicion in him. Only a transparent, selfless,non parochial minded individual can assuage his suspicion, to enable him place the welfare of his family, village, town, clan, ethnic group, on the hands of person's not members of those units.

Since the end of the civil war, Ndiigbo had struggled to produce a selfless, non parochial leader. Hence the reason it has become impossible to produce a pan Igbo leader.

Igboid:
Take Okpara for example, he was a respected Igbo leader across all boards.

He was selfless. For all he spent in government, Okpara lived a decent man, he was never a rich man, go to his place in Afugiri Ohuhu Umuahia, he left no loot for his children, he depended only on his salary, his driving force was only how to place the Eastern region on high pedestal, can we say the same Of any of our current politicians? They are all selfish, only looking out for the interest of themselves and their immediate family.

Azikiwe another respected Igbo leader. He built the University of Nigeria in Nsukka, modern day Igbo politician would rather build such in his immediate town or Local government. Ike Nwachukwu took ABSU to Uturu, Chimaroke took ESUT to his Agbani hometown, and was instrumental in the building of Nigerian law school in Agbani. Ngige was plotting on how to bring a campus of ANSU to his hometown Alor before he was removed. Sam Egwu built the New EBSU permanent site close to his Ezza ngbo home town.

A prominent SE senator diverted the money meant for Enugu-PH express road to constituency project fund and used it to build inner lesser used roads in his Aninri/ Awgu area. The rest of us that are not from his area should go and die.

This is the big issue. Every one only care about his area. No one looks after "our area", yet they expect to be "our leader" and not the leader of their respective mushroom units. If I leave my state and support you, knowing that you would divert any project meant for us to your own people, I can never take you as my leader, you can only become a leader of your own people.

So, this is the issue. Until a leader who would put the welfare of the next Igbo man at same level as his , the welfare of the next village same as his, who will put the welfare of the next Igbo speaking town, clan, state, region, at same level as his, there will never be an Igbo leader.
They will all remain leaders of their respective families, villages, towns, states, etc.

murphyibiam15:

Then is it a kind of advantage or a disadvantage to ndiigbo considering the kind of country we are in

Proudlyngwa:
'Igbo enwe eze' died long ago

murphyibiam15:

Dude seems you don't get the essence of this thread...mind u this thread is not for real life frustrated follks who get orgasm from spewing hate online..

What I meant was whether is of more an adavantag or disadvantage to a region

rowanMama:

I think disadvantage.

CHIJIOKE1314:
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How would know if there is any.. Recession hunger and stomach uproar tormenting you has encroach your brain with dashing blows..

When you sit on the dwarf fence of your dilapidated yard somewhere in Osun with troubling stomach wreck yawning on SE cum Igbo issues..

Tell me, how would you know if there is anyone like your god and saviour Tinubu?

murphyibiam15:

So does it mean the Igbo may not be able to produce a politician who is so popular across south east states?? For instance an Ebonyi or Abia people have no influence from peter obi who is from anambra or anambra people have any influence from ogbonnaya/Anyim pius who are both from Ebonyi
Don't u think is a disadvantage politically

murphyibiam15:

Lekwa on ye nke a...odika ina Apu ara..so anybody that brings about the Igbo course on nairaland is now Yoruba
Sholve your bilious hate kid...how do u sleep at night..so much frustration in you
Am a bonafide Igbo son

Igboid:
Take Okpara for example, he was a respected Igbo leader across all boards.

He was selfless. For all he spent in government, Okpara lived a decent man, he was never a rich man, go to his place in Afugiri Ohuhu Umuahia, he left no loot for his children, he depended only on his salary, his driving force was only how to place the Eastern region on high pedestal, can we say the same Of any of our current politicians? They are all selfish, only looking out for the interest of themselves and their immediate family.

Azikiwe another respected Igbo leader. He built the University of Nigeria in Nsukka, modern day Igbo politician would rather build such in his immediate town or Local government. Ike Nwachukwu took ABSU to Uturu, Chimaroke took ESUT to his Agbani hometown, and was instrumental in the building of Nigerian law school in Agbani. Ngige was plotting on how to bring a campus of ANSU to his hometown Alor before he was removed. Sam Egwu built the New EBSU permanent site close to his Ezza ngbo home town.

A prominent SE senator diverted the money meant for Enugu-PH express road to constituency project fund and used it to build inner lesser used roads in his Aninri/ Awgu area. The rest of us that are not from his area should go and die.

This is the big issue. Every one only care about his area. No one looks after "our area", yet they expect to be "our leader" and not the leader of their respective mushroom units. If I leave my state and support you, knowing that you would divert any project meant for us to your own people, I can never take you as my leader, you can only become a leader of your own people.

So, this is the issue. Until a leader who would put the welfare of the next Igbo man at same level as his , the welfare of the next village same as his, who will put the welfare of the next Igbo speaking town, clan, state, region, at same level as his, there will never be an Igbo leader.
They will all remain leaders of their respective families, villages, towns, states, etc.

CHIJIOKE1314:
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I guess you are yet to hear about 'Efulefu', it's not everyone who yells, 'I'm Igbo' is actually Igbo.. Some are Efulefu'..

When the essence of ur birth has been stuffed with excess watery Ewedu and gbegiri, how then could one blame you for 'thinking' you are Igbo even when you are from IMO or Ebonyi state..

SuperS1Panther:
They are neophytes in politics. Have you ever wonder why they never had a structured political system befoe the advent of the british?

jayrule:



Correct, the answer is "an average Igbo man is selfish"
Thank God this generation are waking up with the help of Nnamdi KANU.
We are gradually changing our orientation.
Nnamdi KANU made the saying "Igbo ewenghi eze" a refuted claim.
The only thing about us is that we are self serving.
But this is gradually changing.

I've been looking towards Pat Utomi. But some folks we know will still do what was done in the past.

One problem is ignorance. An average Igbo man is ignorant of consequences and things that are happening outside his enclave. They only see their surrounding. They Dont care about the brother outside. This need to change.

jayrule:



Correct, the answer is "an average Igbo man is selfish"
Thank God this generation are waking up with the help of Nnamdi KANU.
We are gradually changing our orientation.
Nnamdi KANU made the saying "Igbo ewenghi eze" a refuted claim.
The only thing about us is that we are self serving.
But this is gradually changing.

I've been looking towards Pat Utomi. But some folks we know will still do what was done in the past.

One problem is ignorance. An average Igbo man is ignorant of consequences and things that are happening outside his enclave. They only see their surrounding. They Dont care about the brother outside. This need to change.

murphyibiam15:
Why is it that there is no single individual in south east who is widely respected across the state divide in south east unlike in the south west were Tinubu is a strongman and northern Nigeria were Buhari is a strong man irrespective of your state..more esp I used to think Buhari was from Kano because of the massive support and 'Said' baba chanter which in started from there...
But in south east it seems no politician is respected beyond his state.
I would have thought about ogbonnaya onu but don't really think he's popular outside Ebonyi state.
Why is this so?? And then is it an advantage or a disadvantage to the political advancement of a region??
CD lalasticlala mynd44

victorvezx:

See delusion

victorvezx:

See delusion

jayrule:


See ignorance

victorvezx:

I no blame u, I blame the brainwashing. But no worry, by the time E hit u, ur eye go clear

somegirl1:


We need someone whose Igboness won't be denied in future. Peter Obi strikes me as a viable candidate.

murphyibiam15:



Then how does it benefit the political advancement of the igbo within the confince of present Nigerian politics when there is no one such individual who could pull a crowd across state divide

Proudlyngwa:

Igbo enwe Eze
Are we talking of the institution or the ideology, then we can know how to relate.

EnuguDadImoMom:
The answer is simple- Republic. It has been like that since precolonial era. We respect and don't worship individuals.

kropotkin2:
And what has that got you besides playing second fiddle ?

murphyibiam15:
Why is it that there is no single individual in south east who is widely respected across the state divide in south east unlike in the south west were Tinubu is a strongman and northern Nigeria were Buhari is a strong man irrespective of your state..more esp I used to think Buhari was from Kano because of the massive support and 'Said' baba chanter which in started from there...
But in south east it seems no politician is respected beyond his state.
I would have thought about ogbonnaya onu but don't really think he's popular outside Ebonyi state.
Why is this so?? And then is it an advantage or a disadvantage to the political advancement of a region??
CD lalasticlala mynd44

somegirl1:


So absence of centralized authority/ power equates to lack of structure in your books?
Big words, little mind.

lonecat:
I guess it's because they do not want one family to own the region like this

ak47mann:
Igbos are too independent to allow such tyranny they practice in North and South West,I mean how can 35million people in one region blindly follow one man that can lead them to hell, and block any means necessary for any body to be financially independent without lying on the floor for one tyrant before he or she can become something.we are not animals like sheep that follows anything without asking questions