Our eactions here are 100% misplaced. These are folk who were sold into slavery, can something not be done for them instead making the fact seem like a pride. It isn't.

Little Ghana did something for those sold into slavery at around 2000 or so, in the meantime the "giant" of Africa is rejoicing that her children are scattered. Talk of wearing the cap upside down.

bibiking look at the list for you to know why.


Some on thier list are

Valentine Strasser, Head of State of Sierra Leone from 1992-1996
Abel Nathaniel Bankole Stronge, current speake[/b]r of parliament of Sierra Leone
Adelaide Casely-Hayford, Sierra Leonean advocate, nationalism, and educationist
Abioseh Davidson Nicol, author and Sierra Leonean diplomat
Herbert George-Williams, [b]current mayor of Freetown
Henry Josiah Lightfoot Boston, Governor-General of Sierra Leone from 1962 to 1967
Ade Renner Thomas, former Chief Justice of Sierra Leone
Isaac Wallace-Johnson, Sierra Leonean journalist, activist and politician
Andrew Juxon-Smith, former commander of the Sierra Leone Armed Forces
Christiana Thorpe, current chief [/b]of the Sierra Leone National Electoral Commission
Abdul Tejan-Cole, [b]current Commissioner [/b]of the Sierra Leone Anti Corruption Commisssion
Brigadier-General Arthur Nelson-Williams, [b]current Chief of the Defence Staff of The Sierra Leone Armed Forces, the professional head of Sierra Leone Armed Forces and the highest ranked military position in Sierra Leone
David Omoshola Carew, current Sierra Leone Minister of Trade and Industry
Ogunlade Davidson, Current Sierra Leone Minister of Energy and Power
Winstanley Bankole Johnson, mayor of Freetown from 2004-2008
Cecil Osho Williams, member of Parliament of Sierra Leone from the Western Area (APC)
Victor Reider, member of Parliament of Sierra Leone from the Western Area (APC)
John Henry Malamah Thomas, mayor of Freetown from 1904-1912
Eustace Henry Taylor Cummings, mayor of Freetown from 1948-1954
Christopher Cole, former Sierra Leone's Governor-General and Chief Justice
Prince Harding, Sierra Leone minister of transportation and communication from 2002-2007
Dennis Bright, Sierra Leone's sport minister from 2002-2007
John 'Johnny' Taylor, Creole trader during colonial era
Dr. John Augustus Abayomi-Cole, Sierra Leonean medical doctor, herbalist and politician.
Sir Samuel Lewis, first mayor of Freetown
Herbert Bankole Bright, was Sierra Leonean medical doctor and politician
William John Campbell, former mayor of Freetown
Tom Carew, Chief of Defence Staff of Republic of Sierra Leone Armed Forces from April 2000 to November 2003
Edmund Cowan, former speaker of Parliament of Sierra Leone
Sylvia Blyden, Sierra Leonean journalist and publisher of the independent Sierra Leonean newspaper Awareness Times
Thomas Decker, Sierra Leonean writer, poet, journalist, and linguist
Syl Cheney-Coker, poet, novelist, and journalist from Sierra Leone
Clifford Nelson Fyle, Sierra Leonean journalist and composer of the Sierra Leone National anthem
Jeillo Edwards, Sierra Leonean actress
Rodney Strasser, Sierra Leonean footballer
Ahmed Deen, Sierra Leonean footballer
Albert Jarrett, Sierra Leonean footballer
Albert Cole, Sierra Leonean footballer
John Keister, Sierra Leonean footballer

Daddy Saj, Sierra Leonean rapper
S. E. Rogie, Sierra Leonean musician
Frederick McCormack, Sierra Leonean actor
Delpaneaux(Delpano) Adetunji Wills, Sierra Leonean actor
Eunice Barber, Sierra Leonean athlete competing in heptathlon and long jump.
Horace Dove-Edwin, a retired Sierra Leonean sprinter who specialized in the 100 metres

^^ you be ode avent you posted that twice ok we get it

[s]ok I'm waiting for Fireflies to download.[/s]


I dont really think the SL "Yorubas" are lost anyway, since they know their history to some extent. The thread title is misleading.

For someone to be truly lost, they'd have to be totally unaware of their origins, imo. Like those Roanoke Indians.

and if thats the case, then practically everybody is lost.

dont really think the SL "Yorubas" are lost anyway, since they know their history to some extent. The thread title is misleading.

For someone to be truly lost, they'd have to be totally unaware of their origins, imo. Like those Roanoke Indians.

and if thats the case, then practically everybody is lost.



They are lost and disconnected from mainstream Yorubas because they have lost the ability to speak the language even with their own unique dialect, on like the Yorubas of Republic of Benin.

The only connection they have with Yoruba’s today are they still have their Yoruba names and use some Yoruba words like “ odaboh – bye bye “, “ekuseh – welldone “ and “aso ebi” – in celebrations like marriages and funerals when the immediate family and extended family put on the same clothes in other to distinguish themselves from other attendees.

They also see and call themselves Krios rather than Yoruba’s otherwise the SL govt will not recognise them as citizens of SL but as foreigners.

Obviously a renaissance is required for them to re-claim their heritage back, but whether that awareness and  movement has started remains to be seen.

“I think that the failure of the government to recognize Yoruba as one of the national languages was one of the pivotal agents that is killing the Yoruba people and language in this country,” Alhaji argued.
He disclosed that he could not speak the language as fluently as he wished to and it is getting worse with their own children.
“We found out now that we have to claim Creole and speak krio to properly identify ourselves in Sierra Leone other than that we are Yoruba and Nigerians (foreigners).
On the other hand it is actually interesting and peculiar for us Muslim Yorubas to claim ourselves as creoles with Muslim names like Mohamed Cole, Mucktaru Pearce, Osman Thomas, Saptieu King.
The Christian Creoles always think that they are the pure and original Creole people, but actually we are all brothers and sisters and came from the same origin with the same culture.” Alhaji Hamid explained.



Another point this thread is about the Yoruba Muslim a sub-group of all Yorubas in SL, they maintained a close knit community amongst themselves for a very long time not until very recently when they started assimilating with the larger community.

See extract as to why the Muslim Yorubas had to abandon their language and assimilate with the Krio Community above.

^^ This is interesting to know.

These people are not even Yoruba. They are the descendants of slaves and their language is a mixture of various West African languages.

[size=21pt]What is wrong with Nigerians? This is a sickening disgrace![/size]

Little Ghana has long since done a lot to welcome back those that they sold into slavery. Here, fools are talking about the "strength" of their culture. What strength? Selling your blood?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierra_Leone_Creole_people

These people are not even Yoruba. They are the descendants of slaves and their language is a mixture of various West African languages.

What is wrong with Nigerians? This is a sickening disgrace!

Little Ghana has long since done a lot to welcome back those that they sold into slavery. Here, fools are talking about the "strength" of their culture. What strength? Selling your blood?


They are Yorubas,  you heard from the Alhaji himself, the only reson they are denying their heritage is becos the SL govt view them as foriegners. See extract below.[b][/b]

I think that the failure of the government to recognize Yoruba as one of the national languages was one of the pivotal agents that is killing the Yoruba people and language in this country,” Alhaji argued.

No wonder Africa is messed up


You are not serious.Is not the Yoruba's that propelled the development of Nigeria from the first University-first Television in Africa-first International stadium(Liberty Stadium Ibadan),etc.Please mind your words.

@KnowAll

Ok, they are bleeping Yoruba or whatever. Does that take from the issue that there is nothing here to be proud of? For goodness sake, these people where sold into slavery!

^You are just bloody ignorant.

The Sierra Leone Creole (or Krios) are an ethnic group in Sierra Leone, they are descendants of West Indian slaves from the Caribbean, primarily ( from Jamaica) and freed African American slaves from the United States[1], which landed in Freetown between 1787 and 1855 (or possibly as late as 1860).[1] . Sierra Leone's capital Freetown was founded by the British as a settle for the Krios in 1787. They make up about 5.8% of the Sierra Leone's total population (about 377,003 people), and they live primarily in the capital Freetown and its surrounding Western Area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierra_Leone_Creole_people

Tell them to come back home. They don't need ships now. Make dem just trek

The Sierra Leone Creole (or Krios) are an ethnic group in Sierra Leone, they are descendants of West Indian slaves from the Caribbean, primarily ( from Jamaica) and freed African American slaves from the United States[1], which landed in Freetown between 1787 and 1855 (or possibly as late as 1860).[1] . Sierra Leone's capital Freetown was founded by the British as a settle for the Krios in 1787. They make up about 5.8% of the Sierra Leone's total population (about 377,003 people), and they live primarily in the capital Freetown and its surrounding Western Area.





There are 2 types of slaves in Freetown


1. The Nova Scotians these are people brought back from Nova Scotia and other places in the new world.


2. Those that the abolitionist hijacked their ship on the high seas and since they don’t know which coast in Africa they came from they were all       dumped at Freetown. The Yoruba Muslims fall into these category.


3. The Nova Scotians where the true Krios they formed the core creole community.


4. Don’t say people are ignorant without getting your facts right it makes u look stupid.

KnowAll:

There are 2 types of slaves in Freetown

1. The Nova Scotians these are people brought back from Nova Scotia and other places in the new world.

2. Those that the abolitionist hijacked their ship on the high seas and since they don’t know which coast in Africa they came from they were all       dumped at Freetown. The Yoruba Muslims fall into these category.

3. The Nova Scotians where the true Krios they formed the core creole community.

4. Don’t say people are ignorant without getting your facts right it makes u look stupid.

Isn't there a time to stop arguing (especially when you've stopped making sense)?

Abolitionist's hijacked ships? You tink say dem be bin laden? Ode!
Do you think Nova Scotia is somewhere near Ibadan? Okpe mumu!
If the abolitionist's captured (not "hijacked" a slaving ship, does this somehow mean that by some miracle, those on board were not sold by their kith and kin for mirrors and gin?

After 1121 posts (no doubt of really stupid quality), you still don't know how to use the "insert quote" button? Talk about being dense.

Isn't there a time to stop arguing (especially when you've stopped making sense)?

Abolitionist's hijacked ships?    You tink say dem be bin laden?  Ode!
Do you think Nova Scotia is somewhere near Ibadan? Okpe mumu!
If the abolitionist's captured (not "hijacked" a slaving ship, does this somehow mean that by some miracle, those on board were not sold by the kith and kin for mirrors and gin?

After 1121 posts (no doubt of really stupid quality), you still don't know how to use the "insert quote" button? Talk about being dense.


I dont trade foul language with empty headed thread de-railers like u, those that find this peice captivating have made their comment. 



hi⋅jack  /ˈhaɪˌdʒæk/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [hahy-jak] Show IPA

–verb (used with object) 1. to steal (cargo) from a truck or other vehicle after forcing it to stop: to hijack a load of whiskey.

2. to rob (a vehicle) after forcing it to stop: They hijacked the truck before it entered the city.

3[b]. to seize (a vehicle) by force or threat of force. - hYJACK TO SEIZE VECHILE BY FORCE I DONT HAVE TO TEACH U ENGLISH. THE SHIPS WERE SEIZED AND THE CARGOS DISLOGED IN FREETOWN.[/b]
4. to skyjack.

Isnt it pathetic dat young people of 2day who should shun tribalism because of the undesirable dire consequences it has on the country's development are rather embracing the vice. Anybody who has made a tribalistic statement on this post should bow his or her head in shame.

KnowAll:

I dont trade foul language with empty headed thread de-railers like u, those that find this peice captivating have made their comment. 

This is all the more reason, you are a FOOL.
How do you think both Saro's and Akata's view your pride in the fact that they were sold into slavery?
You don't even think it is immoral, what a damaged soul! The only thing that bothers you is their ethnicity, disgusting!

I really wash my hands of such a display of wickedness and mental retardation.

This is all the more reason, you are a FOOL.
How do you think both Saro's and Akata's view your pride in the fact that they were sold into slavery? You don't even think it is immoral, what a damaged soul! The only thing that bothers you is their ethnicity, disgusting!

I really wash my hands of such a display of wickedness and mental retardation.


You have nothing positive to contribute , I will be a fool to continue to indulge in your rather childish games

@Beaf
I think you need proper home training you don't just come out to a public forum like this and start insulting people,its totally uncalled for it show the kind of home you were brought up in. if the topic deosn't go well with you,i think you should simply move to another one that will favour you,i am not in support of insult. It is not a must that igbo compete with yoruba all the time, see if you are confident of your tribe you don't have to argue to impress anybody i think the cultural norms and value of your tribe should speak for the tribe.
These people were just discussing about how far slavery took their tribe and how much they spread around the world,nobody condemn the igbo or hausa tribe,afterall there are hausa people in the house why didn't they say silly things cos they understood the fact that these people meant no harm,i don't want to believe this is inferiority complex.

KnowAll:

You have nothing positive to contribute , I will be a fool to continue to indulge in your rather childish games

[size=21pt]The creoles were sold by their own people into slavery. They were treacherously rejected by own their blood.[/size]

Instead of acknowledging that disgraceful fact, bleeping tribalists like yourself are only interested in the ethnicity they were before they became creole.
Some are even talking of the "strength" of culture. Is treachery a strength these days? Man, you guy's make me want to throw up!

They aren't part of any Nigerian ethnic group right now, they were rejected; leave them to be what they are. Don't make up rubbish and disgraceful stories.

Look at what Ghana is doing:

Nevertheless, thousands of African-Americans already live here at least part of the year, said Valerie Papaya Mann, president of the African American Association of Ghana.

To encourage still more to come, or at least visit, Ghana plans to offer a special lifetime visa for members of the diaspora and will relax citizenship requirements so that descendants of slaves can receive Ghanaian passports. The government is also starting an advertising campaign to persuade Ghanaians to treat African-Americans more like long-lost relatives than as rich tourists. That is harder than it sounds.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/27/international/africa/27ghana.html

Do you think any of our blood in the diaspora consider Nigeria to be their ancestral home? No, they don't; all of them feel closer to Ghana. Nigeria can only offer them the unfortunate words and thoughts of FOOLs like yourself.

simplychic:

@Beaf
I think you need proper home training you don't just come out to a public forum like this and start insulting people,its totally uncalled for it show the kind of home you were brought up in. if the topic deosn't go well with you,i think you should simply move to another one that will favour you,i am not in support of insult. It is not a must that igbo compete with yoruba all the time, see if you are confident of your tribe you don't have to argue to impress anybody i think the cultural norms and value of your tribe should speak for the tribe.
These people were just discussing about how far slavery took their tribe and how much they spread around the world,nobody condemn the igbo or hausa tribe,afterall there are hausa people in the house why didn't they say silly things cos they understood the fact that these people meant no harm,i don't want to believe this is inferiority complex.

Another FOOL. I am not Igbo.
I don't even care where these people come from. One shameful fact remains; they were sold into slavery by their own. Period!

^Is the from Alhaji from ex-slave stock?
If he isn't, then you can be proud. If he is, then you need your tribalist brain checked.

@beaf
so because they are descendants of slaves they should bury their head in shame or we should pity them

half of the world's population are descendants of slaves from different times in history!!!

stick to the topic and quit derailing the thread.

This topic was to educate not bring up pointless points

salsera:

@beaf
so because they are descendants of slaves they should bury their head in shame or we should pity them

half of the world's population are descendants of slaves from different times in history!!!

stick to the topic and quit derailing the thread.

This topic was to educate not bring up pointless points

I never said any such thing.

[size=14pt]This is what I am saying; we should be ashamed, we should bury our heads in shame, we sold them, we have nothing to offer them as compensation - not even an apology.[/size]
Instead of claiming some stupid cultural "strength" or "Virgin Island" bullshit, we should be constructive on what we should do about our own in the diaspora. I have given Ghana as an example enough times on this thread, enquire and find out how many programmes they have, how much land they have set aside etc. Instead what we have on this thread is the glorification of brutishness.

KnowAll:

They are lost and disconnected from mainstream Yorubas because they have lost the ability to speak the language even with their own unique dialect, on like the Yorubas of Republic of Benin.

The only connection they have with Yoruba’s today are they still have their Yoruba names and use some Yoruba words like “ odaboh – bye bye “, “ekuseh – welldone “ and “aso ebi” – in celebrations like marriages and funerals when the immediate family and extended family put on the same clothes in other to distinguish themselves from other attendees.

They also see and call themselves Krios rather than Yoruba’s otherwise the SL govt will not recognise them as citizens of SL but as foreigners.

Obviously a renaissance is required for them to re-claim their heritage back, but whether that awareness and  movement has started remains to be seen.

This is not true abeg.

see eh Fulatown people do not call themselves Yoruba but Oku, you are making it seem like., they want to call themselves that and they fear the Government.

Krio is the language, Creole is the tribe and majority of Creolea are Christians.

Foulah Town people are called Oku and not krio.

Even the words you say kaboh and Ekushe are only used by really old people, the only words that are normally used are 'komojadeh', Eleykew' and few others.

They are sierra Leoneans full Sierra Leoneans.

This slavery issue is something I feel quite strongly about. I opened a topic to discuss it in the tribalism section, but everyone feels it is to uncomfortable to talk about it https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-331554.0.html. Every topic is too uncomfortable until some clown romantises it with their bleeping ethnicity, no matter how fu.cked up the "romantic" story is.
They would rather insult Akata's for either rejecting us or lacking any interest.

Every adult needs to be grown up enough to deal with their baggage. And slavery is our collective baggage, deal with it.

Is the from Alhaji from ex-slave stock?
If he isn't, then you can be proud. If he is, then you need your tribalist brain checked.


They say when u throw stone in the market place u don’t know where or who that stone will fall on.

What u have embarked on is what they call self defecation of your own people, because your fore fathers were also involved in slave trading.

Slavery is our communal heritage as West – Africans, your comments are not only immature but lacks any iota of sensitivity.

I can only assume u live in Nigeria, if it were a case that u live in the West, UK, America or the Caribbean and u continuously open your foul mouth carelessly on such a touchy and sensitive subject your corpse will not be found in one piece, it will be mutilated beyond recognition.

I caution u,  your boyish and immature tirades should be limit to this forum, at least u have the grace of  internet anonymity to see u through your unbecoming behaviour, for the last person who I personally knew who open his gob like u is six feet under ironically that person happen to be a Nigerian, He was stabbed with a six feet blade right in the middle of his chest for his careless utterances to a Jamaican national.

So be warned.

KnowAll:

They say when u throw stone in the market place u don’t know where or who that stone will fall on.

What u have embarked on is what they call self defecation of your own people, because your fore fathers were also involved in slave trading.

Slavery is our communal heritage as West – Africans, your comments are not only immature but lacks any iota of sensitivity.

I can only assume u live in Nigeria, if it were a case that u live in the West, UK, America or the Caribbean and u continuously open your foul mouth carelessly on such a touchy and sensitive subject your corpse will not be found in one piece, it will be mutilated beyond recognition.

I caution u,  your boyish and immature tirades should be limit to this forum, at least u have the grace of  internet anonymity to see u through your unbecoming behaviour, for the last person who I personally knew who open his gob like u is six feet under ironically that person happen to be a Nigerian, He was stabbed with a six feet blade right in the middle of his chest for his careless utterances to a Jamaican national.

So be warned.

This is why I keep calling you FOOL.

My wife and inlaws are all from the diaspora. . . And I am still alive and kicking your stupid tribalist butt! Whenever I visit, we talk freely; most times on mundane issues, but a lot of the time about black issues, slavery etc.
Cowards die many times.

There is nothing the diaspora wants more than to be hugged and embraced by their own. Do you see the amount of bad blood from Akata's in the "Racism, Tribalism, Sectarianism" section? There is a mixture of loss, anger and nostalgia, a hole in place of their historical identity.
But they only have FOOL's like you to be proud of, isn't it?

KnowAll:



What u have embarked on is what they call self defecation of your own people, because your[b] fore fathers were also involved in slave trading.[/b]

Slavery is our communal heritage as West – Africans, your comments are not only immature but lacks any iota of sensitivity.

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Interesting point of view.

Its a sensitive issue alright but not one we can hide from. Actually, its one of the points that the African Americans will raise anytime U enter into any kind of discourse with them on issues concerning race and heritage.

Why sweep it under the rug? It happened, it happened and yes, we as a race have to bear some of the responsibility or at least acknowledge that we didnt do our best to protect our own. That our fore fathers were involved in slave trade didnt and wouldnt in anyway make it right and it is not self defeacation in any form or manner if someone decides to discuss about what happened.