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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by superstarDikk(m): 2:57pm On Oct 27, 2016
Emycord:
How does it underdevelope nigeria. Someone is aggrieved instead of you to hear from him you suppress him cos he is minority. Then he responds with the only means that you understand: violence. If its affecting only nd will nigeria react? The truth is they are crippling nigeria economy not only nd. Now lets assume lagos port feeds the whole nation will yoruba not act same way ? Before you criticise nd think if its you what will you do
with all due respect, nobody is suppressing Niger Deltans. The militants are just too dumb to think. The monies meant for ur welfare are been hijacked by a few, when the government want to prosecute those people, u threaten to blow up NNPC, but yet you are the first to shout marginalisation n shiit. GEJ shared gold Iphones during his daughter's wedding. How many NDeltans have ever seen an iphone not to talk of owning one. Shey dem Tompolo made billions in the expense of some fools calling themselves militants?

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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by Zoehill(m): 2:57pm On Oct 27, 2016
We know that the ND had been undeveloped, marginalized, degraded e.t.c but by now I expect them to meet among themselves (ND) and produce indegenious investors within SS, engineers, artisans that will continue the exploration once the foreigners leave. Once the exploration is halted it means no work for the indigenous staff employed many are being laid off which will create more hardship for the region. I think the folks in abuja need to be recalled to their constituencies and restrategised how a meaningful bill will be passed that will benefit an ordinary ND not the destruction of their region through hate.
Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by stamcy(m): 2:58pm On Oct 27, 2016
Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by Zoehill(m): 3:08pm On Oct 27, 2016
NDs need to be very logical in their approach...... all senators, honourables, governors, chairman even councillors have their children kept & guarded in Europe & us while the real NDs are killing themselves all in the name of I get power pass you. A visit to Rivers will sadden your heart, every youth is being influenced by a spirit are this the result of the marginalisation?

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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by udatso: 3:15pm On Oct 27, 2016
Emycord:
How has nigeria developed the nd since they start oil exploration and till militants arose. Answer that one first cos it seems thats that the unanswered question that led to bombings in the first place. Dear maclatunji don't treat symptoms treat the cause. Bombing is the symptom neglect is the cause
Your approach is very wrong. He asked a question First. You can choose to answer it or not. But asking him to answer your question before you answer him isnt logical at all.

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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by madjnr: 3:23pm On Oct 27, 2016
gidgiddy:


Lets say you have a water well in your own compound. Out of the goodness of your heart, you allow all your neigbours to benefit from your well by connecting pipes to their homes and beyond. Overtime, you find out the consumotion of your own water by others has become so high that there is no longer enough for you and your family. You go to your neigbours and complain that you want to now control how this water is distributed and shared so as to have enough for your self, but your neigbours ignore you, some even insult you.

How long will it be before you disconnect your neigbours to remind them owns the well?
are û okay??na una papa dig up the soil put the oil there?
Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by Pesuzok(m): 3:30pm On Oct 27, 2016
gidgiddy:


Lets say you have a water well in your own compound. Out of the goodness of your heart, you allow all your neigbours to benefit from your well by connecting pipes to their homes and beyond. Overtime, you find out the consumotion of your own water by others has become so high that there is no longer enough for you and your family. You go to your neigbours and complain that you want to now control how this water is distributed and shared so as to have enough for your self, but your neigbours ignore you, some even insult you.

How long will it be before you disconnect your neigbours to remind them owns the well?

who dug the well?
Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by 12inchDickson: 3:32pm On Oct 27, 2016
QuotaSystem:


This is a weak and very poor analogy for several reasons;

1. The Niger Delta never dug the well, and never had & still doesn't have the capacity to do so.

2. The Niger Delta by law does not own the water in the well, Nigeria does, so there is nothing like "allowing neighbours out of goodness of the heart".

3. The Niger Delta itself benefits from the "water" from the well, even with an added derivation of extra buckets which other neighbors don't enjoy, but the parents of the house are fond of wasting and stealing it so members of its household then start dying of thirst in anger thinking it's due to the neighbors activities.

4. In trying to damage the well dug by the neighbors, the members of the household end up flooding and killing themselves.

What a tragedy brought about by unmitigated stupidity of the household and wickedness of the parents.
u r a good writer

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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by Nobody: 3:40pm On Oct 27, 2016
maclatunji:
It is a straightforward question. Militants and their supporters will celebrate destroying government infrastructure in the NigerDelta I imagine. However, away from the mindless jubilation, how do pipeline bombing, attacking and kidnapping oil workers bring about growth and development in the region?

One would think the region would be the most developed by now if it were an effective strategy going by the number of attacks that have occurred in the region since 1999.

Feel free to explain if you have answers to the questions. Don't come here to boast about blowing up things, I have already identified that as mindless, what I want to know is how it is an effective development strategy.
Before d attacks nko? It is like choosing Buhari or Jonathan.. Hillary or Trump.
Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by Zejie: 3:53pm On Oct 27, 2016
One question I would lyk you to answer is
Before the blowing up of the pipelines started, how well was the development of the Niger delta?
The truth is blowing up of pipelines doesn't develop the Niger delta and will not bring development. But as they say when u push someone to the wall he would retaliate. Have you asked yourself what brought about the blowing up pipeline in the Niger delta? The people of the Niger delta have been crying out about the destruction of their environment before the blowing up of pipelines started we have had men lyk ken sarowiwa who was killed. These oil exploration started before independence and also destruction of their environment its been over 50years now and over 25years before the blowing up of pipelines started the amazing thing is no government has shown sincerity about the destruction of the pipelines all they care about is drill, sell the oil and make money. Now if the agriculture produce in the north is owned by the farmers in the north and solid minerals is controlled by states why can't the people in d Niger delta own what is in their soil.
1) The people are blowing the pipelines because no government since 1960 have shown sincerity in stopping or alleviating the destruction of the Niger delta even when peaceful means were used for about 25years
2) if they don't blow the pipelines their environment will still be destroyed by oil spillage by this oil companies and government will not care
3) so if they stay and do Nothing or only appealing to the government their environment will still be destroyed
4) so its blow up the pipelines so it hurts d government who doesn't care because they make a Hell of profit because even if we don't our environment will be destroyed by SPDC, Agip nd Co so whats d difference? When we hurt d government they might care or we destroy their profits
5)in the end its a win win thing or loose loose thing.

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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by Sweetguy25: 4:00pm On Oct 27, 2016
Don't you know what social justice means?

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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by DrWillie(m): 4:01pm On Oct 27, 2016
QuotaSystem:


This is a weak and very poor analogy for several reasons;

1. The Niger Delta never dug the well, and never had & still doesn't have the capacity to do so.

2. The Niger Delta by law does not own the water in the well, Nigeria does, so there is nothing like "allowing neighbours out of goodness of the heart".

3. The Niger Delta itself benefits from the "water" from the well, even with an added derivation of extra buckets which other neighbors don't enjoy, but the parents of the house are fond of wasting and stealing it so members of its household then start dying of thirst in anger thinking it's due to the neighbors activities.

4. In trying to damage the well dug by the neighbors, the members of the household end up flooding and killing themselves.

What a tragedy brought about by unmitigated stupidity of the household and wickedness of the parents.

It is statements like this that make them blow pipe lines.

First, if you think ND those not have the capacitg to develope the oil. Please who those in Nigeria? The technology used is it owned by Nigerians? Is it not foreigners that were brought into develope it? Are you trying to insult them indirectly by saying ND people are so stupid that they can not make deals like any other Nigerian with foreigners to develope the oil?

Secondly the law that made the oil to n owned by Nigeria was made because of oil by Obasanjo. Before oil was discovered every thing you mined belonged to you. They found oil and because of greediness and because they were in power they made decrees to make the oil everybodies. Now tell n those that sound okay to you.

Thirdly if I come to your backyard were you have a farm and take everything there giving you just 13% will you say it is fair? Will you say you were given a fair share by someone who has no stake in your farm just because he can bully you.

Now for more than 30years ND people having been using peaceful means to agitate. what happened? They were killed and called names. Nobody said anything. Now everybody is paying attention as they are speaking the language FG understands violence and destruction.

This your view of the oil belonging to Nigeria is a fallacy and sooner or later, the Oil will be returned. People from other region make themselves billionaires on other people's wealth. The people complain and you insult them. I pray same thing happens to everyone who is supporting this injustice but in your case let it never be resolved or heard of. So you suffer in silence! !!

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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by gidgiddy: 4:07pm On Oct 27, 2016
Pesuzok:


who dug the well?

Who dug the well is irrelevant. The important thing is who owns the land on which the well is sited.

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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by amanikondo: 4:09pm On Oct 27, 2016
izombie:
Op here is a question for you . how has not blowing pipelines and oil facilities for decades developed niger delta?

Go and ask Tompolo and the Fat flat headed monster that built his University in Benin Republic.
Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by emymeeky: 4:09pm On Oct 27, 2016
QuotaSystem:


This is a weak and very poor analogy for several reasons;

1. The Niger Delta never dug the well, and never had & still doesn't have the capacity to do so.

2. The Niger Delta by law does not own the water in the well, Nigeria does, so there is nothing like "allowing neighbours out of goodness of the heart".

3. The Niger Delta itself benefits from the "water" from the well, even with an added derivation of extra buckets which other neighbors don't enjoy, but the parents of the house are fond of wasting and stealing it so members of its household then start dying of thirst in anger thinking it's due to the neighbors activities.

4. In trying to damage the well dug by the neighbors, the members of the household end up flooding and killing themselves.

What a tragedy brought about by unmitigated stupidity of the household and wickedness of the parents.


Haha hahaha.. when it comes to oil ... Nigeria owns the oil
But when it comes to destruction.. Nigeria ND is being destroyed grin

Bunch of permanent hypocrites grin

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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by Zejie: 4:10pm On Oct 27, 2016
If the law doesn't permit the Niger delta to own the crude oil in their soil, don't you think the law is biased? When it permits states with solid minerals control those resources. Is it not high time such law is changed dats why we are fighting for resource control. I visited Bayelsa recently and after a heavy downpour people's farmlands were washed away by water those farm produce were destroyed. This people have only the crude oil to depend on so if they don't gain from it how do you want them to survive? Before the bombing of pipelines started they have had human right activist championing for government intervention but they were killed and nobody is saying anything. The rest of them government ignored them and doesn't care hmmm to the so called governments they re noise makers. If they tried peace for over 25years nd it failed I think its right to explore other sources

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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by Realist2: 4:10pm On Oct 27, 2016
How does suicide bombing develop the north ?.

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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by Pesuzok(m): 4:15pm On Oct 27, 2016
gidgiddy:


Who dug the well is irrelevant. The important thing is who owns the land on which the well is sited.

says who, there was a mou before the wells were dug.
Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by Nobody: 4:15pm On Oct 27, 2016
maclatunji:


Can you expatiate?
my community for instance have been producing oil for some time now and there is no electricity, road or any sign of development. If you complain too much you will be arrested or punished by soldiers, graduates from other parts of the country come and work in this multinationals and our graduate remain jobless. Then the youths revolted What you call militancy, Today we have access roads, electricity, companies now consider our graduates for employment, you may notice some errors in what i typed because I am busy now working, which I may not av gotten the opportunity if militancy never started. I want you to understand that it will be an insult to my literacy if I support militancy, I try in my little way to discourage those who are in support of it on its demerits, but it will be foolish of me to think they are wrong in supporting militancy because that is the only way they have been getting what is rightfully theirs, the only language the government have shown to them that they understand is violence, is like showing your kid that the only time they can get what they need from you is when they are angry with you, trust me that child will always get angry with you whenever he needs something from you. Have a wonderful day Bro.

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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by Earth2Metahuman: 4:24pm On Oct 27, 2016
emymeeky:



Haha hahaha.. when it comes to oil ... Nigeria owns the oil
But when it comes to destruction.. Nigeria ND is being destroyed grin

Bunch of permanent hypocrites grin
Nigeria own's the oil while naija delta owns the land..

Just like Nigeria own's waters while lagos owns the land.

Every natural resources belong to federal government ...

Read before you comment.
Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by crisycent: 4:28pm On Oct 27, 2016
How does shipping out jobs to other states develop the niger delta?

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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by gidgiddy: 4:33pm On Oct 27, 2016
Pesuzok:


says who, there was a mou before the wells were dug.

Who told you that one? Back when Oil was found in Oloibiri in 1956, Nigeria was not even indepedent yet. By the time the Oil was being exported, the Oil companies were dealing directly with the Eastern Region and the Oil producing communities were getting 50% of Oil revenue. This so called 'our Oil' by Nigerians only started after the war. The war was about who controls Oil.

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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by falxx: 4:34pm On Oct 27, 2016
QuotaSystem:


This is a weak and very poor analogy for several reasons;

1. The Niger Delta never dug the well, and never had & still doesn't have the capacity to do so.

2. The Niger Delta by law does not own the water in the well, Nigeria does, so there is nothing like "allowing neighbours out of goodness of the heart".

3. The Niger Delta itself benefits from the "water" from the well, even with an added derivation of extra buckets which other neighbors don't enjoy, but the parents of the house are fond of wasting and stealing it so members of its household then start dying of thirst in anger thinking it's due to the neighbors activities.

4. In trying to damage the well dug by the neighbors, the members of the household end up flooding and killing themselves.

What a tragedy brought about by unmitigated stupidity of the household and wickedness of the parents.
The answer is very sime. The fact is that your quota stark ilitrate dunce dumbest Buhari told the world that all those who gave him 5% votes will suffer and that he will force them to enjoy their God given natural resources. Why will you promise to oppress, desregard and undermine people yet want to also force them to take away their resources?

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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by Marvinspeed(m): 4:40pm On Oct 27, 2016
@op kindly let me ask you some questions

Have you seen crude oil before?
Have you seen crude oil on waters meant for fishing and/or drinking?
Have you seen oil spillage?
Have you been to any oil producing community?

If your answer is No...then you are not in the best position to ask this question you just conjured up.
Even if blowing up of pipelines doesn't bring development does keeping quiet when the government continually does nothing about it bring development?
Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by lastkingsman: 4:42pm On Oct 27, 2016
maclatunji:


Okay, how do blowing pipelines and other crimes bring justice?

Thank you for that question.

Have you heard about IRA? Here is a brief description:

"the Irish Republican Army(IRA) is any of several armed movements in Ireland in the 20th and 21stcenturies dedicated to Irish republicanism, the belief that all of Ireland should be an independent republic. It was also characterised by the belief that political violence was necessary to achieve that goal."

The key word I want you to note there is "political violence"

England (The idiots that put up this contraption called Nigeria) is the master of divide and rule. They ruled over Ireland under the united kingdom umbrella with headquarters in London until they couldn't take it anymore hence IRA. The smart thing they did was to carve out "Northern Ireland"

Why did I tell this little story? I want to give you a short answer

Niger Delta (an area blessed by huge oil and gas reserve, access to sea shore...) has resolved that the only way to take back their God given resources is to bring down the Nigeria economy to its knee by blowing pipeline - violence is the only way forward, it will take time but it worth the fight.

JUSTICE: give me back what belongs to me, am tired of your 11% derivation and the catastrophe you have caused in my region.

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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by falxx: 4:42pm On Oct 27, 2016
maclatunji:


Please, this your post is the worst. I am sure the militants will not agree with you because it elevates their situation from being stupid to crazy. Who breaks the doors and windows of his house to draw attention to his problems?
You are even the dullest. What is your concern/business if I decided to damage my doors, windows?

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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by ImoRiver: 4:45pm On Oct 27, 2016
worldmoney:
my community for instance have been producing oil for some time now and there is no electricity, road or any sign of development. If you complain too much you will be arrested or punished by soldiers, graduates from other parts of the country come and work in this multinationals and our graduate remain jobless.

If you are not lying can I know your community? Some youths in Niger Delta don't like humble jobs. Etche, Ogoni and if we include Akwa Ibom, Edo and Crossriver as Niger Delta are some of the block exceptions. My company employs for 100k start up as a servicing company but none of the host community employees has ever lasted more than 6 months because there is a belief that 100k is too small for a graduate from the community. Igbos, Ogonis and Akwaibomites even apply for manual jobs of 50k and yet look much happier and fulfilled.

One thing I've noticed is that some politicians are involved in brainwashing the youths into believing that oil being in their soil means they should be rich without hard work but their own children are working despite being sure of inheriting billions. Niger Delta areas in Rivers, Bayelsa and Delta need total reorientation to change this wrong psych. All of Nigeria suffers from bad leadership but others are more self reliant.

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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by falxx: 4:45pm On Oct 27, 2016
LoveMachine:


You won't get an answer. You will instead receive deflection. They will answer your question with another question with the hope that maybe juuuust maybe they can get you to bite on their fakeout.
Why would any reasonable person answer this most foolish questions. If this evening, I decides to damage all my doors, windows, whose business is that?

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Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by nnaemekanwachuk(m): 5:12pm On Oct 27, 2016
izombie:
Op here is a question for you . how has not blowing pipelines and oil facilities for decades developed niger delta?
bro thanks for that question.
Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by nnaemekanwachuk(m): 5:15pm On Oct 27, 2016
ImoRiver:


If you are not lying can I know your community? Some youths in Niger Delta don't like humble jobs. Etche, Ogoni and if we include Akwa Ibom, Edo and Crossriver as Niger Delta are some of the block exceptions. My company employs for 100k start up as a servicing company but none of the host community employees has ever lasted more than 6 months because there is a belief that 100k is too small for a graduate from the community. Igbos, Ogonis and Akwaibomites even apply for manual jobs of 50k and yet look much happier and fulfilled.

One thing I've noticed is that some politicians are involved in brainwashing the youths into believing that oil being in their soil means they should be rich without hard work but their own children are working despite being sure of inheriting billions. Niger Delta areas in Rivers, Bayelsa and Delta need total reorientation to change this wrong psych. All of Nigeria suffers from bad leadership but others are more self reliant.
Who did for boko haram?
Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by nnaemekanwachuk(m): 5:16pm On Oct 27, 2016
Bro you have no question at all .... but you are fooling your self e day pain you.
Re: How Do Crimes Like Blowing-Up Pipelines Develop The Niger Delta? by cashmyles: 5:18pm On Oct 27, 2016
woodcook:
@Op I have a simple question for you once you answer it I will answer yours:

How does the current arrange in Nigeria develops Niger Delta?


Oh really? But what are your leaders and the people representing you both in the senate and the house of assembly doing about it? Have they brought or present the issues concerning the niger delta and her welfare to the floor in d senate and d assembly?.

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