OLAADEGBU:


The wise men only worshipped Jesus as a king they were not aware of His divinity.

So after one month of consultations, this is the best you could come up with. This is terribly low for someone like you.

It was very clear that the Magi knew exactly who they sought after, as a matter of fact, they instructed Herod so well about the person, that Herod went " And gathering together all the leaders of the priests, and the scribes of the people, he consulted with them as to where the Christ would be born. Matt.2:4.

Did you see it, Herod specifically asked for where "the Christ" will be born. The Christ was the Messiah, the annointed, the one Isaiah called the mighty God. The Magi knew exactly who they sought. That's why they came prepared with gold for the king of kings, Frankincense for the eternal priest, and Myrrh for his crucified body. Please show me where you got this lie you posted above from.

Syncan:


So after one month of consultations, this is the best you could come up with. This is terribly low for someone like you.

It was very clear that the Magi knew exactly who they sought after, as a matter of fact, they instructed Herod so well about the person, that Herod went " And gathering together all the leaders of the priests, and the scribes of the people, he consulted with them as to where the Christ would be born. Matt.2:4.

Did you see it, Herod specifically asked for where "the Christ" will be born. The Christ was the Messiah, the annointed, the one Isaiah called the mighty God. The Magi knew exactly who they sought. That's why they came prepared with gold for the king of kings, Frankincense for the eternal priest, and Myrrh for his crucified body. Please show me where you got this lie you posted above from.

Read your Bible and get some wisdom.

OLAADEGBU:


Read your Bible and get some wisdom.

You have listened to His word, harden not your heart like your fathers at meribah.

OLAADEGBU:


Read your Bible and get some wisdom.

hehehe, so u couldnt respond to his rebuttal so u resorted to this abi?

Syncan:


You have listened to His word, harden not your heart like your fathers at meribah.

Read the Bible to be wise. Believe it to be saved. Practise it to be holy.

Ubenedictus:


hehehe, so u couldnt respond to his rebuttal so u resorted to this abi?

Get some inspiration from the inspired Word of God. Your church tradition is not God breathed.

OLAADEGBU:


Get some inspiration from the inspired Word of God. Your church tradition is not God breathed.

so this is d best response u can give abi? u cant even comment on the rebutal weldon.

Ubenedictus:


so this is d best response u can give abi? u cant even comment on the rebutal weldon.

What rebutal? Abeg face where you are going and don't drop it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L8rcgP_jJY

OLAADEGBU:


What rebutal? Abeg face where you are going and don't drop it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L8rcgP_jJY

Syncan:


You have listened to His word, harden not your heart like your fathers at meribah.

OLAADEGBU:


What rebutal? Abeg face where you are going and don't drop it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L8rcgP_jJY

Ubenedictus:

Have you read God's commandments regarding idol worshiping?

freshboi88:


The answer lies within ur statement, Jesus accepted to be a man, emptied himself n bcame man..... But tht didn't take away his divine nature, if u recall bfre saying tht the Father is greater than he is.....he had first said tht to have seen him is to have seen tht father and he and the Father are one.

Cos I already know we're ur heading to, so yes as man the Father is greater but as a diety (essence) he is equal to the Father. So Jesus is both man and God..... Nd remember tht even in his resurrection he still took his manly flesh.....

that means you agree that there is a diff btw Jesus as a man and Jesus as God. Jesus humanity started from Mary's womb but his divinity has no beginning

freshboi88:


Why did Elizabeth refer to Mary as the mother of my Lord (L) in capital letter

Elizabeth knew through the holy spirit that Christ is going to be the Lord.(the Messiah was to be Lord) and so acknowledging him so.

Ubenedictus:
i hope u are aware ur analogy doesnt work and still doesnt affect my point.

if a woman claims her spirit is older it may imply she had two lifetimes and hence two mothers, one in d previous lifetime and one in d present, but both were at one time or d other a parent to her.
the son of God was born of the father b4 time began, when he became man he was born of mary. [/b]

do u even believe the son of God was born of mary?

the younger lady cannot lay claim to be the mother of an older lady nothing like reincarnation.
God the father didn't give birth to Jesus rather the relationship.

@ bold you have contradicted yourself. Which means Mary is only the mother of the Jesus in the flesh not as God and when Jesus died that relationship ended.

Ubenedictus:
Do u believe she gave birth to the Son of God.

Jesus was already the Son of God before he became man through Mary.

solite3:
Jesus was already the Son of God before he became man through Mary.

of Course and Mary conceived and bore a son who was both God and man, she thus bore God the son thus she is theotokus

solite3:
that means you agree that there is a diff btw Jesus as a man and Jesus as God. Jesus humanity started from Mary's womb but his divinity has no beginning

there is only one just who is both God and man from conception not 2 Jesus one man the other God, stop teaching Nestorianism.

solite3:
the younger lady cannot lay claim to be the mother of an older lady nothing like reincarnation.
God the father didn't give birth to Jesus rather the relationship.

@ bold you have contradicted yourself. Which means Mary is only the mother of the Jesus in the flesh not as God and when Jesus died that relationship ended.

if either was God in the flesh then the younger lady can give birth to the eternal God.


stop teaching Nestorianism, there are not two type of Jesus, from conception Jesus was both God and man and Mary gave birth to him with those natures together.

Ubenedictus:
of Course and Mary conceived and bore a son who was both God and man, she thus bore God the son thus she is theotokus

the Mary can never be the mother of one before her except you don't know the meaning of mother.

Ubenedictus:
there is only one just who is both God and man from conception not 2 Jesus one man the other God, stop teaching Nestorianism.

when Jesus grew in knowledge,was it God that grew in knowledge? When Jesus was a baby was he a baby God? Does God have age? When Jesus was thirty years old was God thirty years old?
Its time you seek the true God not roman religion.

Ubenedictus:
if either was God in the flesh then the younger lady can give birth to the eternal God.


stop teaching Nestorianism, there are not two type of Jesus, from conception Jesus was both God and man and Mary gave birth to him with those natures together.

@ Jesus nature as God predates Mary and has no relationship with Mary.
BTW if you refer Mary as mother of God, what will you call Mary's father and mother who gave birth to Mary? Grandmother and Grandfather of God? Lol.
I never said there are two types of Jesus.
One Jesus in two natures.
Mary is the mother of Jesus in the flesh but not in Spirit..That is why Jesus never called Mary his mother. Is there any place in the bible? He prefers calling her woman.
Jesus only respects and honors his heavenly Father not Mary.

Mary was just a vessel. The fact that God considers her to be a vessel to bring his Son into the world is already an honor to Mary. But calling on Mary to intercede for you means giving Jesus place to Mary. Jesus only honors Mary and Joseph t o fulfll the law. But Jesus is no longer under the law. He has ended all that on the cross.

solite3:
@ Jesus nature as God predates Mary and has no relationship with Mary.
BTW if you refer Mary as mother of God, what will you call Mary's father and mother who gave birth to Mary? Grandmother and Grandfather of God? Lol.
I never said there are two types of Jesus.
One Jesus in two natures.
Mary is the mother of Jesus in the flesh but not in Spirit..That is why Jesus never called Mary his mother. Is there any place in the bible? He prefers calling her woman.
Jesus only respects and honors his heavenly Father not Mary.

Mary was just a vessel. The fact that God considers her to be a vessel to bring his Son into the world is already an honor to Mary. But calling on Mary to intercede for you means giving Jesus place to Mary. Jesus only honors Mary and Joseph t o fulfll the law. But Jesus is no longer under the law. He has ended all that on the cross.

stop teaching Nestorianism.


please do well to research before you come here and propound Nestorius's heresy. Mary gave birth to a baby not a lifeless flesh, that baby she gave birth to was God and man, she didn't give birth to the man first and wait for the God part of him to come. she gave birth to God incarnate

solite3:
the Mary can never be the mother of one before her except you don't know the meaning of mother.

a mother is someone who conceive and give birth to a child, Mary conceived and gave birth to God the son

Ubenedictus:
a mother is someone who conceive and give birth to a child, Mary conceived and gave birth to God the son

was God the Son not in existence before Mary?, you are not making sense.

Ubenedictus:
stop teaching Nestorianism.


please do well to research before you come here and propound Nestorius's heresy. Mary gave birth to a baby not a lifeless flesh, that baby she gave birth to was God and man, she didn't give birth to the man first and wait for the God part of him to come. she gave birth to God incarnate

was God not existing before Mary? Mary gave birth to a man called Jesus not God. Jesus relationship with Mary ends in the flesh it does not go beyond it. Mary is dead now that relationship has ended.

solite3:
was God the Son not in existence before Mary?, you are not making sense.

you are the one not making sense.

a mother is someone who conceives and bears a son, that is what Mary did, God was in her womb and she gave birth to him, she is the theotokus, bearer of God.

solite3:
was God not existing before Mary? Mary gave birth to a man called Jesus not God. Jesus relationship with Mary ends in the flesh it does not go beyond it. Mary is dead now that relationship has ended.

so the baby Mary gave birth to wasn't God abi? when did the divinity enter the baby since you say Mary only gave birth to mere flesh.?

MrPRevailer:


Jesus is the Word of God or Spirit/Son of God. Like saying my spirit is me. John 1:1, John 16:28, John 8:42.

Mary is an ordinary human being God used to bring Jesus to the world in a human form.
God is a God of Justice, the true Judge.
It was done this way so that Jesus death on the cross can be justified. And Satan the accuser will have nothing to say against God.

Do you have any evidence that Jesus truly died?

barongmj:
Because he has to come in flesh and blood, experience what we do nd lay an example that we might follow. If Jesus as come as a supernatural being that he is, am sure people will say he was perfect because he wasn't human so he had to come the human way and form so to teach us that we can also walk in holiness and righteousness even if we are in this world.

What about people who lived before his coming?

'God' presented himself to his creations. Allowed himself to be mocked, stoned, convicted, and killed by the people he created. And rosed after three days.

This must be a wonderful 'god'.

One will certainly wonder who was in charge of affairs on earth and in the heavens while 'god' was dead for three days.