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Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by natedalo: 5:22pm On Nov 18, 2016
LightandDarkness:



First off in reality there is no such thing as nothing, nothing always leads to something. The big bang theory doesnt suggest something came from nothing, thats a misconception.

Yes designs can exist without intelligence, look at the Grand canyon. Its a geological feature produced by a combination of natural events, it can be considered as complex but yet has no creator. Similarly planets and stars CAN exist without being created.

Having ecosystems with order doesnt suggest a creator. Ecosystems contain species which interact with each other and find their places and roles nothing more to it than that. Nobel prizes in science are won for discoveries that revolutionize their relevant field, has nothing to do with the complexity of the discovery.
Please sir compare the grand canyon to a rolex watch.

If you saw a rolex watch in the grand canyon would you assume it was part of the canyon assuming you had not seen a rolex watch before as a scientist?

Now the life with its intricate systems is many times more complex than a rolex watch.
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by mpire: 5:32pm On Nov 18, 2016
Must be a really slow day for you. Idahosa has been dead for how long now? And you're asking this ridiculous question? Do you want to raise him up from the dead to tell him you believe or you don't believe him? Just file your post under IRRELEVANT post.
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by Nobody: 5:37pm On Nov 18, 2016
natedalo:
Please sir compare the grand canyon to a rolex watch.

If you saw a rolex watch in the grand canyon would you assume it was part of the canyon assuming you had not seen a rolex watch before as a scientist?

Now the life with its intricate systems is many times more complex than a rolex watch.

Why are you comparing a natural feature (grand canyon) to a watch (an artifical product). Complexity can arise naturally without design, you are making the assumption that if it is complex it must have been created intelligently.
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by bayinq25(m): 5:56pm On Nov 18, 2016
you watched it on tv?dude religion is full of scam...if nollywood can do it,then 700 club can.
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by Seun(m): 5:59pm On Nov 18, 2016
The existence of God is not synonymous with the archbishop's ability to raise the dead. If the story is false, that doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. If the story is true, that doesn't necessarily imply that God exists. These are different things.
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by PDBonline: 6:09pm On Nov 18, 2016
LightandDarkness:



First off in reality there is no such thing as nothing, nothing always leads to something. The big bang theory doesnt suggest something came from nothing, thats a misconception.

Yes designs can exist without intelligence, look at the Grand canyon. Its a geological feature produced by a combination of natural events, it can be considered as complex but yet has no creator. Similarly planets and stars CAN exist without being created.

Having ecosystems with order doesnt suggest a creator. Ecosystems contain species which interact with each other and find their places and roles nothing more to it than that. Nobel prizes in science are won for discoveries that revolutionize their relevant field, has nothing to do with the complexity of the discovery.
1. Give examples of how nothing ALWAYS leads to something.

2. The Big bang is theory and I didn't even consider that in my discuss.

3. A significant geological or geographical feature is different from a design. In fact, the word "design" suggests intention and intelligence. And I intentionally used the word "functional design". By the way, even if designs exist without being a direct act of intelligence or intention, they result as consequences of the operation of laws and principles that are used or abused, applied or misapplied. How can we have dependable laws and principles originating from a nonexistent source or even a source that that is not intelligent? The only reason scientific research exits in the first place is because these laws are there for us to rely on. And anytime we are ignorant of them, we make wrong conclusions(whether we are religious or not doesn't matter here) and that's if we survived the research. That's why we have "scientific discoveries" that have entered the archives as disproved "facts".

4. That something can exist without being created does not rule out the impact of a creator in its existence. I hinted on this in 3. above.

5. Surely there is more to ecosystem than the simple description you gave. Is the inanimate Sun among what finds its place and role? It's part of the interactions of the ecosystem.

Logic and rationalism doesn't answer everything. That's why we have terms like intuition and the likes. Atheists accept things that can't be rationalized in other forms of social interactions except when religion is introduced. That is inconsistent.

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Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by PDBonline: 6:28pm On Nov 18, 2016
Seun:
The existence of God is not synonymous with the archbishop's ability to raise the dead. If the story is false, that doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. If the story is true, that doesn't necessarily imply that God exists. These are different things.
Agreed. But the dead being raised THAT WAY is supernatural.
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by Seun(m): 7:10pm On Nov 18, 2016
jide219:
he did a lot of things,he brought revival to Edo state,God used him to deliver me
What did he deliver you from? Can you describe exactly how it happened and its lasting impact on you?
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by Duru009(m): 7:36pm On Nov 18, 2016
Without faith it's impossible to please God.. ....
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by shotster50(m): 8:50pm On Nov 18, 2016
PDBonline:

Of course it was a big news but no matter how big the news there will be those who will not hear. Or do you think only what is shown on cnn is happening on earth? You only see on TV what they want you to see.

My friend stop drinking that zobo you are drinking... Do you know what kind of breakthrough that would be if it were true.?? Everybody and their dead mom will be lining up to get resurrected. The fear of death, of sickness will be forever erased because hey, we have these special people who can bring you back to life with a chant and a prayer.
Or is it not so?
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by vheckthor1: 9:13pm On Nov 18, 2016
The message of the cross is foolish to those who are headed for destruction! But we who are being saved know it is the very power of God.
As the Scriptures say, “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise and discard the intelligence of the intelligent.”
So where does this leave the philosophers, the scholars, and the world’s brilliant debaters? God has made the wisdom of this world look foolish.
Since God in his wisdom saw to it that the world would never know him through human wisdom, he has used our foolish preaching to save those who believe.
For while Jews [demandingly] ask for signs and miracles and Greeks pursue philosophy and wisdom,
We preach Christ (the Messiah) crucified, [preaching which] to the Jews is a scandal and an offensive stumbling block [that springs a snare or trap], and to the Gentiles it is absurd and utterly unphilosophical nonsense.
But to those who are called, whether Jew or Greek (Gentile), Christ [is] the Power of God and the Wisdom of God.
[This is] because the foolish thing [that has its source in] God is wiser than men, and the weak thing [that springs] from God is stronger than men.
1corinthians 1 vs 18-25 .
that is why people still find it hard to believe God existence, God is real either you accept it or not. And to brother seun and others like his God loves you and He want you to be saved from eternal damnation ,harden not your heart to His words and accept Him today.

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Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by Basfaq(m): 9:19pm On Nov 18, 2016
LaClicKLaBenDin:
Benson Idahosa raised the dead, not one but many!

Reinhard Bonnke also raised the dead, here in Nigeria.
This happened at grace of God Church, some years back and it was well documented. I even watched the documentary on TV, after many years, and it was aired on a foreign TV station....700club program.

You can google it up.m uCM Security protects your privacy.
mugun no dey end.when are you going to come to your sense?.muctuarie are to convince us.yeye people grin
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by omobaba101(m): 10:02pm On Nov 18, 2016
Yes, he did raise the dead. I have seen a dead man raised before as people prayed. You not believing it doesn't make it a lie
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by Nobody: 11:31pm On Nov 18, 2016
Seun:
What did he deliver you from? Can you describe exactly how it happened and its lasting impact on you?
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How has it supported fraud
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I Herby request that this kind of thread in a forum like nairaland is not ideal to exist at the first place. It goes against all cultural morals and established laws of this country Nigeria. My initial intention was to send the link to the police headquarters and every single investigation agencies in Nigeria for thorough investigations and make necessary arrests but I felt I should inform you first. That thread must be locked up or deleted. If by the next 72 hours it still exist, I shall proceed to take actions of my own. Here is the link again https://www.nairaland.com/2536003/asewo-beer-parlour-share-ashewo/
Best regards and have a blissful day ahead.

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Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by jide219(m): 10:55am On Nov 19, 2016
franugo:


u said n i quote 'revival to EDO state',..tell us how exactly he did so.

Secondly, what were u delivered from? Hope its not sth like masturbation u dey call deliverance
I don't need to explain myself to you,if u don't believe isvnot my business
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by franugo(m): 11:42am On Nov 19, 2016
jide219:
I don't need to explain myself to you,if u don't believe isvnot my business

what do u want us to believe? U haven't exactly said anything
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by ernieboy(m): 4:36pm On Nov 19, 2016
LaClicKLaBenDin:

Enough evidence abound in the universe to prove himself to him, and if that's not enough, God isn't obligated to prove himself to him. He can decide to do it, and he can decide not to.

I always see Christians who come here and want to defend God and paint him in an endearing manner, so that the atheist won't call him a monster or other names, but the truth is, God is a supreme King, he doesn't run a democracy, He is unquestionable, and whatever he does is done in righteousness. The created can't question the Creator!

You can accept that he is your creator or reject it, but He still remains God!
well said brother. I think tend to forget that he is God and He does not owe us an explanation neither does he bear any burden to prove his existence to us. we tend to forget that we owe our very existence to him and if he decides this minute to wipe out the world from existence He does nor need to seek our permission to do it.

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Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by ernieboy(m): 4:43pm On Nov 19, 2016
yusufu16:
And they were also dead people when Jesus Christ raised Lazarus from the dead. I believe everything happen for a reason at every point in life
good point, Jesus raised d the dead during the Bible days but there were still other dead people and he did not go in search of all of them.
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by PDBonline: 6:00pm On Nov 19, 2016
shotster50:


My friend stop drinking that zobo you are drinking... Do you know what kind of breakthrough that would be if it were true.?? Everybody and their dead mom will be lining up to get resurrected. The fear of death, of sickness will be forever erased because hey, we have these special people who can bring you back to life with a chant and a prayer.
Or is it not so?

They are not special people. God gives people ability to do miracles when someone who needs it dares to believe Him for it. So it is not about the person who raised the dead but about the person who believes that God can raise his/her dead back to life.

We are not serving a dead god or an idea to be argued about. Our God is a God of love who does miracles to help us where we can't help ourselves because He loves us. And it doesn't matter how wrongly you've talked about Him and how bad you've lived, He is gracious, full of compassion, slow to anger and great in mercy and He will answer you if you call on Him from the depth of your heart.
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by thehomer: 6:07pm On Nov 19, 2016
PDBonline:


They are not special people. God gives people ability to do miracles when someone who needs it dares to believe Him for it. So it is not about the person who raised the dead but about the person who believes that God can raise his/her dead back to life.

Can you raise the dead? If not, which miracles can you perform?

PDBonline:

We are not serving a dead god or an idea to be argued about. Our God is a God of love who does miracles to help us where we can't help ourselves because He loves us. And it doesn't matter how wrongly you've talked about Him and how bad you've lived, He is gracious, full of compassion, slow to anger and great in mercy and He will answer you if you call on Him from the depth of your heart.

You are serving an idea until you can show us this God of yours. How about when people pray for miracles and nothing happens?
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by LaClicKLaBenDin(m): 6:16pm On Nov 19, 2016
ernieboy:

well said brother. I think tend to forget that he is God and He does not owe us an explanation neither does he bear any burden to prove his existence to us. we tend to forget that we owe our very existence to him and if he decides this minute to wipe out the world from existence He does nor need to seek our permission to do it.

I thank God for your understanding. The way they talk about God proving Himself or about the things he does, is more like calling a porter wicked, because he chooses to make some vessels expensive and meant for kings and palaces and made others cheap and meant to be used by beggars. He made us for His own pleasure, no matter how intelligent we think we have become or no matter how brainwashed the devil has made us, the earlier we start coming to terms with the fact that God is unquestionable, the better for us. And like I will always say, whether we decide to believe in God or not, it cannot stop him from being God: He was God before He created man, and will continue to be God!


It saddens me when I see mere mortals, who think they have known enough to question the One who holds the very air they breathe.

We are not like other religions who think they can defend and fight for their gods: our God is mighty in battle, He can defend the integrity of His name in anyway He deems fit. He can defend Himself in every situation.

I would rather pity any one who thinks He can mock God or call him unprintable names, because they're being used by the devil, and they will be used and dumped, then the sad reality will set in. I can only pity and pray for them, so they don't get on wrong side of God.
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by natedalo: 8:24pm On Nov 19, 2016
LightandDarkness:


Why are you comparing a natural feature (grand canyon) to a watch (an artifical product). Complexity can arise naturally without design, you are making the assumption that if it is complex it must have been created intelligently.
I am actually not assuming but making an observation that complex things require deliberate action.

You are the one assuming that complexity can arise naturally.
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by Nobody: 9:57am On Nov 20, 2016
Most have failed to get this point, Seun. Ever since they know you are an atheist, arguments have changed.

I believe God exists. But not through proven con men like all these pastors and so-called men of God. Especially, not when a soon-to-be-dead mortal man is telling me he has raised up more than 8 dead people. He should have started with his own dead father etc.



Seun:
The existence of God is not synonymous with the archbishop's ability to raise the dead. If the story is false, that doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. If the story is true, that doesn't necessarily imply that God exists. These are different things.
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by shotster50(m): 10:00am On Nov 20, 2016
PDBonline:


They are not special people. God gives people ability to do miracles when someone who needs it dares to believe Him for it. So it is not about the person who raised the dead but about the person who believes that God can raise his/her dead back to life.

We are not serving a dead god or an idea to be argued about. Our God is a God of love who does miracles to help us where we can't help ourselves because He loves us. And it doesn't matter how wrongly you've talked about Him and how bad you've lived, He is gracious, full of compassion, slow to anger and great in mercy and He will answer you if you call on Him from the depth of your heart.

The idea of miracle for miracle sake is just absurd..... Why try and give something that has a normal logical meaning into something supernatural. No one on earth has the power to raise a dead human from the dead. I repeat no one.
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by PDBonline: 10:31pm On Nov 20, 2016
thehomer:


Can you raise the dead? If not, which miracles can you perform?



You are serving an idea until you can show us this God of yours. How about when people pray for miracles and nothing happens?

1. I guess you should read the statements you quoted again because the answers to your questions are right there.

2. My God will show Himself to you if you are willing to know Him. I don't need to be in the picture. "You will seek Me and find Me if you seek Me with all your heart," that's what He said. The responsibility is on you to seek Him for yourself.

3. With a paradigm shift, things start taking on new meanings. Believe God exists and miracles happen first, then you can have the right frame of mind to understand why not everyone experiences miracles.
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by thehomer: 7:15pm On Dec 02, 2016
PDBonline:


1. I guess you should read the statements you quoted again because the answers to your questions are right there.

Bullshit!

PDBonline:

2. My God will show Himself to you if you are willing to know Him. I don't need to be in the picture. "You will seek Me and find Me if you seek Me with all your heart," that's what He said. The responsibility is on you to seek Him for yourself.

Rubbish. Does your God want me to know him? If he does, how can I stop him from doing just that? How can a mere me stop an omnipotent entity from revealing himself to me?

PDBonline:

3. With a paradigm shift, things start taking on new meanings. Believe God exists and miracles happen first, then you can have the right frame of mind to understand why not everyone experiences miracles.

You're asking me to believe in talking animals before a God who is ominipotent will reveal himself? Why doesn't he reveal himself then I will believe in the talking animals? You see, you have reasonable thinking the wrong way around.
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by Snyman(m): 7:21pm On Dec 02, 2016
Lennycool:
God can raise the dead but can't regrow a limb. Isn't this strange undecided
God has done that already son.

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Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by Omudia11: 8:29pm On Dec 02, 2016
No Seun! Nobody said this. Even Jesus Christ said that in the last days false prophets shall arise and shall decieve many in his name. That was why he warned us to be watchful so as not to be fall prey to their deceit. The false prophets are all anti-christs (against Christ) in fact very soon you will begin to witness great signs done by them that will leave you dumbfounded.

That being said, many pastors/ prophets now fake miracles, its no news. Some pay people to give false testimonies but a genuine child of God who is baptized in the holy spirit is able to distinguish the wheat from the chaff.

So your answer here is No.
Seun:
Are you saying that since God can raise the dead, therefore any man of God who claims to have raised the dead must be telling the truth?
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by Omudia11: 8:32pm On Dec 02, 2016
Bless you!
Acidosis:
Nobody can convince this charlatan. He's best left alone.


Over 10 years ago... I was at Reinhard Bonnke's crusade LIVE in OKENE, KOGI STATE.


Immediately the Evangelist led a deliverance prayer, a blind man rightly seated beside me got his sight instantly. That man was old enough to be my grandfather as of that period. Before ediots come up with their "made up" stories, the man didn't even made it to the altar for testimonies. His own miracle was just one out of thousands. Obviously, Reinhard Bonnke wasn't interested in his testimony.. 1 full month would never be enough to do that going by the massiveness of the crowd.


The more I read OP's thread, the more I look stup!d. Most of these doubtful stuffs are events I've witnessed LIVE.

Even my own Pastor friend has led many deliverance prayers in my presence. I've heard demons speak through humans uncountable times. Ask them, after the prayers, they'll tell you they didn't say a thing. Obviously, it wasn't them speaking! Some weekends ago, 2 women were rushed to a Church toilet, guess what they passed out? Fibroid!

Many of you would see these stuffs on Emmanuel tv and be saying nonsense about men of God.

If you don't believe, it would never disrupt the fact that miracle is here to stay and those who have the faith will continue to experience the power of God.
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by Omudia11: 8:35pm On Dec 02, 2016
beautiful!
LaClicKLaBenDin:


And you're lost in eternity!

When you close your eyes in death some day, you will remember this "fool" who always reminded you that there's a God, and heaven and hell is real!

Repent or you shall surely perish.
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by Omudia11: 8:36pm On Dec 02, 2016
Take kiss kiss kiss kiss
Yungkid101:
Seun i used to wish i'd be like you, but seeing that you don't believe in christ i'm very much happy and thankful to God that i'm not you. #At least now i know i'm far better than you.
Re: Benson Idahosa Boasts Of Raising The Dead (Video) by Omudia11: 8:39pm On Dec 02, 2016
Well said. I hope Se.un didn't ban you for all of eternity.
avicky:

Because you have money and fame, we won't hear word again. When you were in oau, who knew you then? Can you stop criticizing someone's religion? The last time I checked, there's freedom of religion in Nigeria. Be an atheist and let xtians too be. Live and let live mbok.

If you were a church rat, I doubt whether you will be an atheist. Mtcheeww.

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