Seun:

Which amounts to what? That a throwaway line in HardMirror's story is probably inaccurate? That HardMirror admits that he may have misremembered it? I would be surprised if the story was 100% accurate. No story that is written by a human being is 100% accurate. No testimony given by a human being is 100% accurate. That's why, as atheists, we value hard evidence more than any kind of testimony.

I'm inclined to delete the parts of HardMirror's testimony that have been found to be highly likely to be inaccurate. Is this satisfactory to you?

mrmrmister:
I just wish you so called christians would pay this much attention to your religion.

I wish you could dedicate this much time investigating your religion and seeking the truth like you're doing now

Seun:

Which amounts to what? That a throwaway line in HardMirror's story is probably inaccurate? That HardMirror admits that he may have misremembered it? I would be surprised if the story was 100% accurate. No story that is written by a human being is 100% accurate. No testimony given by a human being is 100% accurate. That's why, as atheists, we value hard evidence more than any kind of testimony.

I'm inclined to delete the parts of HardMirror's testimony that have been found to be highly likely to be inaccurate. Is this satisfactory to you?

plaetton:
I must have missed something here in my haste to finish reading the thread.

Can someone pls do me a favor by pointing out the so-called lie that Hardmirror peddled.

Thanks in advance.

Ishilove:

Start from the very op. Hardmirror's lies can carry Olympic gold

Mimzyy:

rhektor:
No sir, this is unacceptable as hardmirror himself need to apologize to nairalanders for feeding us with lies, who knows how many lies he has written in the past? He also need to be banned from religion section after apologising to Christians here. Please Oga Seun create a section for the atheists or let us know if Nairaland is meant for Christian haters

HardMirror:

*smiles* now he wants front page. Why did you not clamour for hopefullandlord's thread to be pushed to front page?

herzernIsHere:



I think it is yhu that should halt the spear-headinq of untrue confessions in a bid to spread atheism...

#Peace

plaetton:


Pls help me, if you actually spotted the lie.

herzernIsHere:



You sure are pickinq holes because of this disclaimer thread that discredited the authenticity of the bull crap.......

If yhu read it with a free mind with no knowledqe about its credibility,You may be convinced....

His narration was a close-to-perfect one...

LiberaDeus:


Hardmirror has embarrassed freethinkers on NL.

But why are you Christians aching to see his story debunked? His is just a story, the real questions of Christianity would never be wished away even if a million hardmirrors surface and are embarrassed.

The real questions concerning salvation, hell, the problem of evil, failed prophecies, biblical contradictions etc.

Unlike you christians, we freethinkers don't put faith in man and his wiles but in universally tested methods of reason.

Seun:

Which amounts to what? That a throwaway line in HardMirror's story is probably inaccurate? That HardMirror admits that he may have misremembered it? I would be surprised if the story was 100% accurate. No story that is written by a human being is 100% accurate. No testimony given by a human being is 100% accurate. That's why, as atheists, we value hard evidence more than any kind of testimony.

I'm inclined to delete the parts of HardMirror's testimony that have been found to be highly likely to be inaccurate. Is this satisfactory to you?

TheUmbra:


Your interest in all of this -- the reaction from the atheists and possibly counter reaction from the Christian folks is worrisome.

rhektor:



No sir, this is unacceptable as hardmirror himself need to apologize to nairalanders for feeding us with lies, who knows how many lies he has written in the past? He also need to be banned from religion section after apologising to Christians here. Please Oga Seun create a section for the atheists or let us know if Nairaland is meant for Christian haters

Mimzyy:
Are the atheists avoiding this thread? Does it mean that Hardmirror has accepted that some part of his story was fabricated? Is there any logical explanation at all? Phewwww.

Seun:

Which amounts to what? That a throwaway line in HardMirror's story is probably inaccurate? That HardMirror admits that he may have misremembered it? I would be surprised if the story was 100% accurate. No story that is written by a human being is 100% accurate. No testimony given by a human being is 100% accurate. That's why, as atheists, we value hard evidence more than any kind of testimony.

I'm inclined to delete the parts of HardMirror's testimony that have been found to be highly likely to be inaccurate. Is this satisfactory to you?

TheUmbra:


Wrong.

I saw his crap on frontpage. I never thought it was click-worthy. If one has encountered the supernatural, there's nothing any fool bouyed by the finite momentum of human wisdom can say that has a distant relationship to conviction.

Lots of christian or religious folks who clicked on that crap are still wavering in their faith.

TheUmbra:


Wrong.

I saw his crap on frontpage. I never thought it was click-worthy. If one has encountered the supernatural, there's nothing any fool bouyed by the finite momentum of human wisdom can say that has a distant relationship to conviction.

Lots of christian or religious folks who clicked on that crap are still wavering in their faith.

Seun:

Which amounts to what? That a throwaway line in HardMirror's story is probably inaccurate? That HardMirror admits that he may have misremembered it? I would be surprised if the story was 100% accurate. No story that is written by a human being is 100% accurate. No testimony given by a human being is 100% accurate. That's why, as atheists, we value hard evidence more than any kind of testimony.

I'm inclined to delete the parts of HardMirror's testimony that have been found to be highly likely to be inaccurate. Is this satisfactory to you?

timmy2409:
Speaking of people that have incentives to lie about the validity or invalidity of miracles, think about this for a moment.

If a pastor claims that a miracle is real and that he performed it, what would he gain? Oh.. well larger congregations & followership, which means more money from tithes and more people desperate for solutions. Think about how rich miracle preachers in Nigeria are as well as the likes of Benny Hinn, Reinhard Bonnke etc

Now, if HardMirror lies about his time as a pastor, claiming that miracles (in the supernatural sense) are actually not real, please educate me, what would he gain?

damogul:
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Isnt the bolded what we just did that led us here? Learn to be objective and speak when its worth it.

Ishilove:

Hardmirror lied that a christian brother fasted himself to death, but investigations have revealed otherwise

LiberaDeus:


Hardmirror has embarrassed freethinkers on NL.

But why are you Christians aching to see his story debunked? His is just a story, the real questions of Christianity would never be wished away even if a million hardmirrors surface and are embarrassed.

The real questions concerning salvation, hell, the problem of evil, failed prophecies, biblical contradictions etc.

Unlike you christians, we freethinkers don't put faith in man and his wiles but in universally tested methods of reason.

Seun:

Which amounts to what? That a throwaway line in HardMirror's story is probably inaccurate? That HardMirror admits that he may have misremembered it? I would be surprised if the story was 100% accurate. No story that is written by a human being is 100% accurate. No testimony given by a human being is 100% accurate. That's why, as atheists, we value hard evidence more than any kind of testimony.

I'm inclined to delete the parts of HardMirror's testimony that have been found to be highly likely to be inaccurate. Is this satisfactory to you?

LiberaDeus:


What are you even saying?

What did you do here In this thread? You are trying to prove that hardmirror is a fake. Please will that answer all the questions of existence and put to bed all the objections of Christianity.

Hardmirror is a human being, I don't care about his motives neither do I care about his honesty or lack of it. I didn't come to my belief system because of the testimony of a man. Face the fact that the guys testimony shook the faith of so many Christians and you are trying so hard to undo that damage. He lied, so what? Will you keep on beating the horse of this guys lies or will you face why you believe what you believe.

How many times do you see freethinkers trying to hammer down the credibility of one so called man of god. We don't do that, because we know Christianity like other world religion's was built on fables, mythology and fear which are all dishonest foundations. That is what we attack, the dishonest foundations, whether Benny hinn is fraudulent or not, or whether pastor Chris is fraudulent or not, it doesn't change the fact that the underlying theology is faulty.

So I will say it again, hardmirror is a fraud and so what, he is a cheat, a pathological liar, an impostor and so what. Does that make the holy bible to be free of immorality and contradictions.

A little advice for you, if you claim to be a Christian don't be like the medieval crusaders who threw away all decency because they were allegedly fighting for the Lord, please still maintain decency and human respect even though you feel you are justified since you are fighting atheists. If someone didn't refer to you or pass a snide remark your way, please don't do such to the person. Do unto others as you would have them do to you. I didn't insult you, its not too much to ask that you do the same.

yorhmienerd:
Defaming people is a punishable offence and did you know that one of his father in the Lord who he claimed to have learn't under them was tagged false too 'cos his(the man) son came in and rebuffed the claims.

HardMirror:

This thread is a waste. Hopefullandlord has a thread already on this topic, try and do better than this. You folks keep using the word investigation. Which investigation? Is a chat between me and howmon what you call investigation? What happened to all the other aspects of the story?