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Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by JackBizzle: 4:59am On Apr 08, 2017 |
Blogthug: Thanks for confirming your ignorance. |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by Blogthug(m): 11:10am On Apr 08, 2017 |
[quote author=JackBizzle post=55369634] Thanks for confirming your ignorance. [/quote imagine someone ignorant of the etymology of a word calling another person ignorant, lol no need to bother explaining anything to u, it will be like trying to teach maths to a fish |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by JackBizzle: 11:39am On Apr 08, 2017 |
Blogthug: An agnostic is an atheist. Agnostics do not believe in a God or gods. They believe that it can't be proved either way. So they live a life without bothering about the question of God. I am agnostic atheist. Learn. 1 Like |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by hopefulLandlord: 12:04pm On Apr 08, 2017 |
Gnostic and agnostic represents "Knowledge" gnostic is someone who claims to know agnostic is someone who doesn't claim to know gnostic atheist is someone who doesn't believe in any god and also claims to know there is no god agnostic atheist is someone who doesn't believe in any god but is not claiming to know there is no god 1 Like |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by 4kings: 6:55pm On Apr 08, 2017 |
Blogthug:This "scientific evidence" is currently debated. So it's not valid for this argument, at the moment. I'm not an atheist oo, but using that theory is not valid anymore for this kind of debate, at-least for now. |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by 4kings: 7:15pm On Apr 08, 2017 |
Blogthug:Does your definition of God have a mind of his own or is it solely an impersonal creator as most deists think? 1 Like |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:18am On Apr 09, 2017 |
IgboLoyalist , bro I think you should read this write up . And ask yourself : if God didn't reveal Himself to the deists how could they deduce that He as a creator exists . You can make more researches on natural theology - this should open up a whole new perspective of this matter . 1 Like |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:26am On Apr 09, 2017 |
4kings: Bro , one question , Does God have the freedom of will ? 1 Like |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by orisa37: 9:54am On Apr 09, 2017 |
God without Religion is LIFELESS, NO DISTINGUISHING AND IGNORANCE. Religion without God is FAITHLESS AND STRICKEN WITH POVERTY. Please mind your language!!! Religion is a Visitor to The Host God. |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:01am On Apr 09, 2017 |
Blogthug: But either way , reincarnation is a superstitious belief ; I wonder why a deist would even subscribe to such beliefs . 1 Like |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by 4kings: 3:13pm On Apr 09, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:No. Its a necessary being. If God is omniscient then it has no free will. If God exists outside of time, then he also does not have free will here. Anonynymous, Uyilredia and Deepsight what do you think? |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:21pm On Apr 09, 2017 |
4kings: Is it possible for the universe not to exist ? Is possible that the universe could have been designed differently ? 1 Like |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by 4kings: 3:34pm On Apr 09, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:Yes |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:41pm On Apr 09, 2017 |
4kings: Then God has the freedom of will . Its by God's will that the universe exists in the first place ; if he didn't decide to cause the existence of the universe then it wouldn't have existed . Its by his will that the universe exists . Therefore , since God has the freedom of will , its logical to conclude that God through his freedom of will should and can intervene in the affairs of man and the universe . And that's where deism bleeped up 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:43pm On Apr 09, 2017 |
^^ 4kings just noticed that you emboldened the text of the second question meaning you responded to it . The same thing applies bro . 1 Like |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by 4kings: 4:56pm On Apr 09, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:What rubbish is this? You of all people should know the concept of a personal and impersonal God and also know a word called "random". Most deists agree God has an impersonal attributes, and not a mind of his own in the sense you are looking at it from. The cause of the creation of this universe is from an impersonal force and not a fully anthropomorphic being. If this cause does not have personal attributes, then it can't initiate plans on his own and this universe was caused by necessary(possibly random) events that made it the way it is. I hope you've been cleared. 1 Like |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:11pm On Apr 09, 2017 |
4kings: What kind of garbage is this you posted as a rebuttal . Deism posits that God orchestrated creation of the universe but does not intervene with His creation . Mister man go and find out where you belong and stop claiming to be a deist upandan I strongly doubt you know what deism is . I thought you said you are now a free thinker ? Seems like you freely spewed this garbage all by yourself |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by 4kings: 5:21pm On Apr 09, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:I really don't like labels or grouping myself to a sect because of this kind of situation. But let me ask you, have you asked or read on deists websites on how this orchestration may have taken place? I follow some deists site(like deism.com and positivedeism.com even patheos.com) and also feeds tagged with deism on Quora and other online forums and i have observed that most consider this God as an IMPERSONAL BEING. If this is the case then this "orchestration" is not thought as, the same way you are thinking about it. Deists have different opinions on some issues, that's why i didn't want to attack your ignorant post straight up. 1 Like |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by Nobody: 7:02pm On Apr 09, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: reincarnation is a superstitious belief says a person who believes in three in one god that sent himself to be killed lmao. if reincarnation is a superstitious belief then your own belief is even worse idolatry and superstion. |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by Blogthug(m): 10:15pm On Apr 11, 2017 |
4kings: what's this? did u not hear me say that the scientists that discovered evidences supporting Lemaitre's Big Bang won Nobel prizes? google it and research for yourself, well except they did the debate in your fathers compound lol |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by Blogthug(m): 10:19pm On Apr 11, 2017 |
JackBizzle: newly indoctrinated atheist like you are always ignorant and incredulous, T H Huxley who coined the term agnosticism didn't want anything to do with Atheism or theism, hence he coined the term agnosticism , research alil, u won't die
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Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by Blogthug(m): 10:25pm On Apr 11, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: is this what they taught you in your atheism whatsapp group or u saw it on some meme ? lol, go an read T H Huxley and stop spewing ignorance, atheism and agnosticism are mutually exclusive, stop appealing to epistemic luck, it's a fallacy. I made a post about this a while back, go through it |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by Blogthug(m): 10:30pm On Apr 11, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: don't strawman what I said pls, I clearly stated that I HOPED for it to be true, don't conflate it with believing in it. also if reincarnation according to you is superstitious it logically applies to believing in heaven or some hell. since there are no Empirical evidences for both, only anecdotal evidences on both sides and in religious books |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by hopefulLandlord: 10:34pm On Apr 11, 2017 |
Blogthug: I don't care about the post or origin; if you've got anything contrary to my post, kindly lay it out 1 Like |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by Blogthug(m): 10:40pm On Apr 11, 2017 |
4kings: only few deists believes in impersonal creator actually, reason is because of evidences supporting intelligent design, and intelligence can only come from a mind, think about the information process in a DNA code . these and many more evidences for Intelligent design even help convinced late former renowned Atheist philosopher Anthony flew ( noted for redefining atheism as lack of belief) into dumping atheism for deism |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by Blogthug(m): 10:49pm On Apr 11, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: God revealed himself through designs in Nature , man seeing intelligent designs deducted that it must be from a supreme being or creative mind .only intelligence begets intelligence. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by Blogthug(m): 11:05pm On Apr 11, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: freedom of will is a human attribute based on empirical observation God is not human therefore God doesn't need to have freedom of will God could have something different since supernatural , but if A is not B then A is not B even if God has freedom of will, the fact that he can intervene in affairs of man if he wanted to doesn't mean u can start presupposing that he does, the fact that I can kill someone if I wanted to , doesn't in anyway mean I have killed anyone |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by Blogthug(m): 11:12pm On Apr 11, 2017 |
4kings: study renowned deistic philosophers most didn't believe in an impersonal creator , an impersonal creator automatically refutes the idea of Intelligence design which is part of the core beliefs of deism, intelligence can only come from a mind , so u made a false dichotomy, it doesn't hav to either be impersonal or personal when it's a supernatural entity we talking about here |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by Blogthug(m): 11:35pm On Apr 11, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: how can u gain true knowledge with this your " I don't care" attitude? ehn? Oya start from here www.nairaland.com/3559976/proof-there-no-such-thing |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by hopefulLandlord: 12:02am On Apr 12, 2017 |
Blogthug: OGA, you're committing etymological fallacy |
Re: Religious Atheism EXPOSED : God Without Religion and Religion Without God by JackBizzle: 2:28am On Apr 12, 2017 |
Blogthug: Spoken like a true ignorant fellow. Language evolves. "gay" does not mean the same thing it meant in the 19th century. Origin of a word is very different from its use in modern times. |
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