Skydweller:
Both of them are right. It all depends on the angle through which one sees it. Moremi is a traitor to Olugbo because she was the reason why his people fell to their enemy. On the other hand, to Ooni of Ife, Moremi is an heroine because she helped Ooni's people to win the war against their enemy. So She deserved to be respected.

benn94:
hahahaha this afonjas are just so funny

Vessi:
Lalasticlala come and dump this thread in front page abeg. Two so-called yoruba leaders have started fighting eachother again over supremacy. Awolowo Versus Akintola, Tinubu versus Fayemi/Fashola, Oni of Ife versus Olugbo of Ugbo. ndi ofe mmanu.

LecciGucci:
But this yoruba people sef shaa
I still dnt understand how a whole tribe would be so deluded that their ancestors FALL FROM HEAVEN..oh my goooooooh

then he must be among those that GOD chased down alongside Lucifer .
Nowonder their hatred... i dey joke oo

Well on a serious not.. yoruba ancestor is an old Edo prince OKODUWA...who was giving of a part of a kindom to rule. He gave birth t0 ODUDUWA(the ancestor of yorubas)

perryy:


Ifa is a blind god who sees nothing but talks too much

Vessi:
Which kind Yoruba history be this seff, say pesin fall from heaven with chicken and calabash?! Lwkmd.

Maybe their god oduduwa is the Biblical Fallen Angel of Lucifer sent down from heaven?! The two leaders are confused and are distorting their own history. Yoruba's have no authentic history and that is why they keep distorting it, lying with use of propaganda. Alaafin of Oyo go soon talk Moremi na Hausa-Fulani. Useless people!

RillJ:
Maybe, maybe not. The Yorubas so deified Oduduwa that they do not have a meaning or explanation for the name, but not the Edos. The Edos have/know the meaning of Oduduwa and can explain how the name came to be. No one is easily satisfied when his deep persuasion and interest is at stake.

Perhaps you want us to call 'Oduduwa'
into the witness box.

sekesi2009:
@ Olureignforever and others in the house, pls don't mind the garrulous faceless vessi. You can see from all his vituperations against the Yoruba race that he is brain dead. His help is not in this world except from above which we all pretty much doubt. This is why his parents are highly ashamed of giving birth to him. Problem is he doesn't know where and how to reset his brain. He is a loose canon.

afoo02:
May God bless you for this liberation giving to us bro

Tolexander:
Obat seems to be just wealthy but lacks the place of reasoning and understanding on this Moremi issue!

Moremi had a strategy to liberate her people (Ife) from the incessant raids by the ugbo in masquerade-like costumes, this made them looked like super being . She went to River Esinmirin to pray and promised to sacrifice his son, Oluorogbo, to the river if she comes back.

During the next ugbo raid, Moremi surrendered herself to be captured and taken to ugboland. There she was married by the king for some years. She got to know the secret of these ugbo people and sneaked out one day back to Ife.

The following raid by the ugbo, Moremi had prepared her people (Ife) against the raid, the ugbo raiders were conquered and defeated. That ends the incessant raid by the ugbos on Ife land.

Ife is strategic place in the historical values of Yoruba people, how would someone in the place of King Obateru tell the Yoruba race not to celebrate the liberator (or liberatress if there is a place of feminizing) of the town, Ife?

Just like telling the Europeans not to celebrate Arthur Wellesley for conquering Napoleon Bonaparte at the battle of Waterloo, when France had almost got the whole of Europe to herself. Though France may not like him.

Or telling the Jews to call Queen Esther a villain for saving her people from Hamman

Vessi:
Which kind Yoruba history be this seff, say pesin fall from heaven with chicken and calabash?! Lwkmd.

Maybe their god oduduwa is the Biblical Fallen Angel of Lucifer sent down from heaven?! The two leaders are confused and are distorting their own history. Yoruba's have no authentic history and that is why they keep distorting it, lying with use of propaganda. Alaafin of Oyo go soon talk Moremi na Hausa-Fulani. Useless people!

opal4real:


What is the name of your king? None I guess!

Decedents of slaves!

gbounty:


I am neither, Yoruba, or Igbo or Edo for that matter. But i STRONGLY believe that the best cultured tribe in all of Nigeria remains the BENIN KINGDOM!

You simply have to give it to them on how well they KNOW and have KEPT their history throughout time...

I marvel at it and i applaud them!!!





















Are you a Nigerian?
What tribe are you?
It's only an empty headed Biafra whom had lost his bearing because of frustration that would sound like this about the best and well cultured tribe in the country. Omo irankiran, Iran Ole jatijati

Tolexander:
Obat seems to be just wealthy but lacks the place of reasoning and understanding on this Moremi issue!

Moremi had a strategy to liberate her people (Ife) from the incessant raids by the ugbo in masquerade-like costumes, this made them looked like super being . She went to River Esinmirin to pray and promised to sacrifice his son, Oluorogbo, to the river if she comes back.

During the next ugbo raid, Moremi surrendered herself to be captured and taken to ugboland. There she was married by the king for some years. She got to know the secret of these ugbo people and sneaked out one day back to Ife.

The following raid by the ugbo, Moremi had prepared her people (Ife) against the raid, the ugbo raiders were conquered and defeated. That ends the incessant raid by the ugbos on Ife land.

Ife is strategic place in the historical values of Yoruba people, how would someone in the place of King Obateru tell the Yoruba race not to celebrate the liberator (or liberatress if there is a place of feminizing) of the town, Ife?

Just like telling the Europeans not to celebrate Arthur Wellesley for conquering Napoleon Bonaparte at the battle of Waterloo, when France had almost got the whole of Europe to herself. Though France may not like him.

Or telling the Jews to call Queen Esther a villain for saving her people from Hamman

KingOvoramwenn1:
WE ALL KNOW THE THRONE IN ILE IFE HAS ITS ROOT FROM THE GREAT BENIN EMPIRE

THE UGBOS WERE THE ORIGINAL PPL IN ILE IFE BEFORE THE BENIN PRINCE CAME TO IFE

Abillsable:

You this Benin people with your untrue myths and legends about Oduduwa.Who deceived you with fallacy.How come you didnt spread out and be a majority,how come you are a minority?Isnt that logical enough?How come even the Itsekiris have their ancestral ties to the Yorubas and not Bini.How did Bini manage to be confined and not enlarge spread in population and coverage ?You need to take a trip out of Bini and let the truth supress your unnecessary arrogance.

Vessi:
Which kind Yoruba history be this seff, say pesin fall from heaven with chicken and calabash?! Lwkmd.

Maybe their god oduduwa is the Biblical Fallen Angel of Lucifer sent down from heaven?! The two leaders are confused and are distorting their own history. Yoruba's have no authentic history and that is why they keep distorting it, lying with use of propaganda. Alaafin of Oyo go soon talk Moremi na Hausa-Fulani. Useless people!

1kinggy:
Oba Obateru should go and make monuments in memory of his grandfathers. Ooni has done his.

Okikiade:
What face you might be views from behind! Ooni celebrated Moremi as heroine because she helped his town while Olugbo can also be right as Moremi a traitor! Before Ooni unveil the statute, Olugbo has said something related to it! Why not concetrating on development of your various abodes than to raise achaic dust and polutes the already contaminated atsmosphere? The "modafoka" that tongue-lashed us should go & live with the dogs & the pigs!

Ishilove:
'Imperial Majesty' is a wrong title. The so-called director of Public Affairs acting as a mouth piece of the Ooni should know that.

CXLVII:



Don't mind the Vessi dude, it's glaring he belongs to the lineage of the flat headed dwarfs with yam legs who hardly grow past 4feet.

AnonyNymous:

Thank you. This is the same history I'm aware of

Mariojane:
in this regard they are both correct in their own way. moremi let herself be captured to penetrate into ugbo tradition and secret just to help her kingdom. (she was the heroine in her kingdom). she got married to the ruler of ugbo kingdom. naturally once you are married you are automatically a member of your husband kingdom which makes her (a betrayal in ugbo kingdom). she was captured as a slave who became a wife, slaves were expected to summit totally to their masters rules. no matter how we put it, ugbo people will never agree moremi was an heroine cause she betrayed them to be a saviour of another kingdom.

they are both right.

Rekeb:


It's more like an elephant and a grasshopper. Who is Olugbo in the scheme of things in Yoruba history? Someone is just seeking relevance.