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Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by bobchigar(m): 9:14pm On Dec 06, 2016
MOREMI AJASORO: HEROINE OF LIBERTY

The Olugbo of Ugbo kingdom in Ilaje area of Ondo State, Oba Obateru Akinruntan has of recent been distorting history and fanning the ember of enmity among the Yoruba Obas and the Yoruba nation at large. Sadly, the same Olugbo is the chairman of an amorphous body that goes by the name ‘Yoruba Obas Committee on Peace and Reconciliation’.
The Olugbo has repeatedly referred to Moremi as a traitor against her widely acclaimed tag as a heroine of liberty. I have taken it upon myself to put the record straight and lay same bare before the court of public opinion to judge whether Moremi was a traitor as Oba Akinruntan claimed or a heroine as the world has come to accept her. The abridged history of Moremi will suffice here.
Moremi Omowumi Ayoka Okin, was born in Offa as a princess (and this is my locus standi). She grew up in Offa to become a ravishingly beautiful young lady who later got married to Ooni Oranmiyan of Ile Ife. As a result of her beauty and astuteness, she soon became the Aayo (Queen Consort) of Ooni Oranmiyan and the only one who had his ears on vital issues about the kingdom.
During her stay in Ile-Ife, the ancient city was incessantly raided by a group of warriors who were believed to be from the outer space. This was as a result of their weird dressing as they were usually cladded in dried raffia fronds from head to toes. On each occasion, these warriors carted away food items, materials, and humans as slaves. These unrelenting raids on the ancestral home of the Yoruba was giving King Oranmiyan (himself a renowned warrior) a grave concern. Queen Moremi noticed this mood swing of her husband and asked him why he was brooding endlessly of recent. King Oranmiyan told her it was these mysterious raiders that were giving him serious concern. Queen Moremi instantly decided to do all within her power to restore her husband’s happy mood.
She went to consult the goddess of River Esinmirin (still in Ile-Ife) and made a vow that if she could be granted the power to overcome the mysterious invaders, she was ready to sacrifice anything the goddess of Esinmirin demanded. The goddess told her to allow herself to be captured when next the invaders come around. As instructed, on the next invasion by the mysterious invaders, Moremi unlike the rest of the inhabitants deliberately allowed herself to be captured by the invaders and taken as a slave to their place which turned out to be Ugbo (the home of Oba Akinruntan).
Upon setting his eyes on the war booties, the then reigning Olugbo of Ugbo could not take his eyes off the paragon of beauty that was Moremi. He subsequently decreed that she be handed over to him as a wife. Moremi became the Olugbo’s wife and soon got elevated as the Queen Consort in the Olugbo’s palace. During a moment of passion, Moremi craftily told the Olugbo that she was enjoying everything about her new home except the dreadful warriors especially the way they dressed. The lecherous Olugbo told Moremi that the warriors were merely cladded in dried raffia fronds which were highly combustible.
After this all important disclosure, Moremi surreptitiously plotted her escape back to Ile-Ife. She immediately revealed the secret to her original husband, Oranmiyan and some elders of Ile-Ife. The entire Ile-Ife folks then mobilised and strategized against the next invasion of the marauders who were now known to be coming from Ugbo land. As envisaged, the Ugbo invaders came calling again in their usual raffia fronds attire and Moremi leading the Ile-Ife people carried firebrands made of Oguso (a highly combustible by-product of palm kennel). The Ugbo warriors were attacked and quite a number of them were burnt to death. The remnants that escaped to Ugbo land narrated their experience of the unprecedented defeat and the fact that it was the missing queen of Olugbo that led the counter-attack. In any case, that was the end of the Ugbo invasion of Ile-Ife.
The Ugbo people were devastated on the number of casualty suffered and the fact that their King must have revealed their secret to his consort. It was then decreed that it has become a taboo for any Ugbo man to marry any fair complexion lady as a result of the Moremi experience with the Olugbo.
Back in Ile-Ife, while the euphoria of the defeat of the Ugbo invaders was still going on, the goddess of Esinmirin demanded that Moremi should fulfil her vow as made before embarking on the mission to Ugbo land. Moremi offered animals, foods, and other items but Esinmirin rejected all. The only sacrifice Esinmirin wanted was Moremi only child and son Ela Oluorogbo. She eventually sacrificed him to the Esinmirin goddess in fulfilment of her vow. In appreciation, the entire Ile-Ife promised to be her children and fill the gap of the sacrificed Ela Oluorogbo.
However, the other queens in the palace mocked Moremi as being childless to spite her for taking much of their husband’s attention. In anger, Moremi came to Offa to meet her father who was the reigning Olofa then. She got to Offa at dusk when the Olofa had retired and could no longer receive visitors to the palace. The guards could not recognise her (apparently due to her disguise to escape from Ile-Ife palace) and instructed her to wait at the palace gate till dawn when the Olofa would see her. She insisted on entering the palace but the guards stood their grounds. In frustration, she walked few meters away from the palace gate and put her luggage beneath the Araba tree.
By the morning of the following day, the Olofa was informed of the strange female visitor that came the previous night and the king asked that she should be brought before him. However, when the guards went to fetch the visitor, Moremi could not be found. Only her luggage was brought before Kabiesi and he instantly recognised them to be Moremi’s own. The spot where she left her luggage was where the original Moremi’s house was erected directly opposite the Olofa’s Palace.
Moremi was never seen again in Offa or at Ile-Ife. The probability of her disappearance was that she eventually ended up with her beloved son Ela Oluorogbo in the same River Esinmirin. To commemorate her heroic actions, she is celebrated annually in Offa as ONIMOKA and three months after in Ile-Ife as EDI where the people carry the symbolic firebrand.
Having taken readers through this abridged historical excursion, can the role of Moremi be tagged as that of a traitor or a heroine? In the first place, she allowed herself to be captured solely to liberate her people which she achieved. An apt but sad similitude is this – if the federal government of Nigeria could get a lady to ‘marry’ Abubakar Shekau today and that leads to some tactical information to wipe out the remnants of the Boko Haram insurgents, would such a lady be a villain or a heroine? I leave the readers to form their opinion on this.

References:
History of the Yorubas by Rev Johnson - page 147
History of Offa by Rev Olafimihan page 104
The Nigeria Review published on 18th October 1947 on page 7.
Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by Tolexander: 9:35pm On Dec 06, 2016
Nice piece!

Olugbo isn't just serious!

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Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by peckhamboi: 9:50pm On Dec 06, 2016
You forgot to address the root cause of everything.

My mum is from Ugbo and the Ugbos are the real aborigines of Ile-Ife, then Oduduwa came and murdered our King, Obatala.

We all can agree that Oduduwa is not the progenitor of the Yorubas, then who were the pre-existing Yorubas?

The Ugbos believe Oduduwa came from Benin, to overthrow Obatala and take over the throne. The Ugbos felt angered by this and started

carrying out guerilla attacks on Ile-Ife to claim their city back and later came the Moremi story, where she was captured by the Ugbos and she

married the King and later escaped and later leaked their secrets.

Moremi is a heroine to present day Ile-Ife, but she is also a traitor to the Ugbos. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Let us reason this issue out as matured individuals and let's not resort to insults on our Kings, we are all Yorubas at the end of the day.

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Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by Godprotectigbo2(f): 10:34pm On Dec 06, 2016
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Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by TonyeBarcanista(m): 11:14pm On Dec 06, 2016
Very insightful.

But from what I can get, Moremi used all she had to help Ife people, while she betrayed the trust of Ugbo people.

Hence, to Ife people she was a heroine, but to Ugbo people she was a traitor and backstabber.


Both groups are correct

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Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by waternogetenemy: 11:19pm On Dec 06, 2016
Can i just ask y everytime yorubas open their mouth they feel the need to mention igbos whether or not we are involved.


An arguement between Ife and Ugbo featured Igbo? Yorubas Y? angry embarassed



Ooni of Ife blasts Oba of Ugbo for referring to yoruba ancestral Queen, Moremi, as a traitor not worthy of celebration

In a statement released from his palace this afternoon, the Ooni of Ife, Oba Enitan Ogunwusi, blasted oil magnate and Oba of Ugbo Kingdom in Ondo state, Oba Federick Akinruntan, for recently referring to yoruba ancestral queen, Queen Moremi as a traitor not worthy to be celebrated.

Akinruntan at a recent function, condemned Ile-Ife people for celebrating Queen Moremi and even erecting a stature in her honor.


In his reaction, the Ooni of Ife says Akinruntan's statement smacks of royal rascality and a pitiable act of absurdity that doesn't deserve serious attention by serious minded people. Read what Akinruntan said about Queen Moremi and the Ooni of Ife's reply below...



Oba Akinruntan's statement
“Our forefathers descended from heaven, that is why we are called ‘Ugbo Atorunwo.’ We are not Ibos (Igbos), who are from the South-East, and who have their own clearly researched and defined ancestry. To set the record straight, Moremi remains a traitor. She was a slave captured by Ugbo warriors during one of their many raids on Ile-Ife. She later became the wife of Osangangan Obamakin, the son of Oranfe, of who was the paramount ruler of over 13 aboriginal communities of ancient Ugbomokun, which later came to be called Ile Ife. Oduduwa came to Ugbomokun as a stranger and was welcomed in Ilero, the aboriginal palace of Osangangan Obamakin, which is still in existence in present-day Iremo, in Ile Ife. During the dynastic struggles, Osangangan Obamakin was directed by the oracles (Ifa and Osanyin) to leave Ile Ife. Moremi betrayed her husband’s trust when she exposed the secret of the Ugbo warriors’ gallantry.” Oba Akinruntan said.
Ooni of Ife's reaction
The attention of ILE-OODUA has been drawn to the above quoted statement credited to Oba Frederick Akinruntan through the Olugbo-in-Council berating the people ILE-IFE for celebrating MOREMI AJASORO as a heroine and goddess of liberty.
This outburst of OLUGBO can only be viewed by the well meaning people as a mere royal rascality and a pitiable act of absurdity that doesn't deserve serious attention by serious minded people.

How on earth should a Yoruba king refer to Moremi as a traitor just because she used her power of a woman to liberate her people from incessant invasions by some faceless terrorists?

While we remain very proud of the great queen Moremi Ajasoro, a brave woman who sacrificed her only son OLUOROGBO for the victory of her people over the faceless terrorists who used to incessantly raid Ife markets, we will not dignify this rascality of royalty with an expected response as we are not ready for any useless supremacy battle incapable of taking Yoruba to a greater height.

Most paramount on the mind of His Imperial Majesty Ooni Adeyeye Ogunwusi Ojaja II with the unflinching support of baba Alaafin, baba Awujale, baba Alake, baba Orangun, baba Deji, babe Ewi, baba Osemawe, baba Olubadan, Oba of Lagos and other relevant peace loving monarchs in Yorubaland and in other parts of the country is and remains the much needed progress of Yoruba nation which can only be catalyzed by peace and unity, this has necessitated his unimaginable barrier-breaking unity visits he has been taking around not only in Yorubaland but also across Nigeria and internationally. his activities in the last one year on throne are enough to attest to his personality as a king of peace.

It is a pity that at this time when everybody is lucidly tired of retrogressive royal discord generally agreed to have colossally hindered our pace of progress as a people of common heritage politically and socio-economically, the OLUGBO who claims to be the chairman of Yoruba Obas Committee on Peace and Reconciliation has suddenly without a deep knowledge of Yoruba history woken up to see royal controversy as the only tool for cheap publicity.

Kabiyesi Ooni is not interested in joining issues with Oba Akinruntan or anyone on any matter that can jeopardize his peace and unity project which is already making impact in so many sectors such as Youth development, women empowerment, cultural tourism, agric revolution, unification of our elders and traditional rulers, to mention but a few.
We therefore urge every lover of peace and unity in Africa to ignore any reckless statement capable of further dividing us, they should rather see the author of such statement as a person who poses a too armful danger to our peaceful coexistence.
Yoruba must remain united, Nigeria must remain united, Africa must remain united and the entire black worldwide must remain united because we are one before the Almighty God.

Comrade Moses Olafare,
Director of Media and Public Affairs,
Ooni's Palace.

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Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by Nobody: 11:56pm On Dec 06, 2016
waternogetenemy:
Can i just ask y everytime yorubas open their mouth they feel the need to mention igbos whether or not we are involved.


An arguement between Ife and Ugbo featured Igbo? Yorubas Y? angry embarassed



Igbo gives them quick orgasm
Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by Totalman1(m): 12:44am On Dec 07, 2016
I think the main thing is to recognise the FACTS of our History.

Then we can leave people to judge from both sides of d coin.

Nice History!


#AfricaWithoutBorders

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Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by AKYEMITE(m): 6:23am On Dec 07, 2016
peckhamboi:
You forgot to address the root cause of everything.

My mum is from Ugbo and the Ugbos are the real aborigines of Ile-Ife, then Oduduwa came and murdered our King, Obatala.

We all can agree that Oduduwa is not the progenitor of the Yorubas, then who were the pre-existing Yorubas?

The Ugbos believe Oduduwa came from Benin, to overthrow Obatala and take over the throne. The Ugbos felt angered by this and started

carrying out guerilla attacks on Ile-Ife to claim their city back and later came the Moremi story, where she was captured by the Ugbos and she

married the King and later escaped and later leaked their secrets.

Moremi is a heroine to present day Ile-Ife, but she is also a traitor to the Ugbos. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Let us reason this issue out as matured individuals and let's not resort to insults on our Kings, we are all Yorubas at the end of the day.

My brother, if that is the case and your mum and your king is tired of that village Ugbo, it is very easy now, no need to fight just come and buy some land in ife and build yourself a home so that you can enjoy the fresh air brought by our Imperial majesty oba Adeyeye. Jealousy they worry your king!!! I pity him



Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by AKYEMITE(m): 6:24am On Dec 07, 2016
peckhamboi:
You forgot to address the root cause of everything.

My mum is from Ugbo and the Ugbos are the real aborigines of Ile-Ife, then Oduduwa came and murdered our King, Obatala.

We all can agree that Oduduwa is not the progenitor of the Yorubas, then who were the pre-existing Yorubas?

The Ugbos believe Oduduwa came from Benin, to overthrow Obatala and take over the throne. The Ugbos felt angered by this and started

carrying out guerilla attacks on Ile-Ife to claim their city back and later came the Moremi story, where she was captured by the Ugbos and she

married the King and later escaped and later leaked their secrets.

Moremi is a heroine to present day Ile-Ife, but she is also a traitor to the Ugbos. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Let us reason this issue out as matured individuals and let's not resort to insults on our Kings, we are all Yorubas at the end of the day.

My brother, if that is the case and your mum and your king is tired of that village Ugbo, it is very easy now, no need to fight just come and buy some land in ife and build yourself a home so that you can enjoy the fresh air brought by our Imperial majesty oba Adeyeye. Jealousy they worry your king!!! I pity him





My brother, if that is the case and your mum and your king is tired of that village Ugbo, it is very easy now, no need to fight just come and buy some land in ife and build yourself a home so that you can enjoy the fresh air brought by our Imperial majesty oba Adeyeye. Jealousy they worry your king!!! I pity him
Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by Nobody: 7:43am On Dec 07, 2016
From this both groups are correct, to one group she is a traitor and to the other she is a heroine, and someone already gave why the ogbu people attacked ile-ife.

Interesting piece tho!
Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by Nobody: 7:48am On Dec 07, 2016
peckhamboi:
You forgot to address the root cause of everything.

My mum is from Ugbo and the Ugbos are the real aborigines of Ile-Ife, then Oduduwa came and murdered our King, Obatala.

We all can agree that Oduduwa is not the progenitor of the Yorubas, then who were the pre-existing Yorubas?

The Ugbos believe Oduduwa came from Benin, to overthrow Obatala and take over the throne. The Ugbos felt angered by this and started

carrying out guerilla attacks on Ile-Ife to claim their city back and later came the Moremi story, where she was captured by the Ugbos and she

married the King and later escaped and later leaked their secrets.

Moremi is a heroine to present day Ile-Ife, but she is also a traitor to the Ugbos. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Let us reason this issue out as matured individuals and let's not resort to insults on our Kings, we are all Yorubas at the end of the day.




Obatala was murdered? from the version i know, he disappeared, just as how oduduwa did, can you elaborate?
Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by orimsamsam(m): 8:06am On Dec 08, 2016
waternogetenemy:
Can i just ask y everytime yorubas open their mouth they feel the need to mention igbos whether or not we are involved.


An arguement between Ife and Ugbo featured Igbo? Yorubas Y? angry embarassed



Wht Dis one saying can't u see the king was trying to differentiate between Igbo and ugbo. So as not to confuse already confused people like u.

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Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by waternogetenemy: 5:31pm On Dec 09, 2016
orimsamsam:
Wht Dis one saying can't u see the king was trying to differentiate between Igbo and ugbo. So as not to confuse already confused people like u.


Dude, so ugbo and igbo need differentiating? Is he confused? Are yorubas confused as to the difference between ugbo and igbo?


One is a major ethnic group, the other is a rural village. Does that need differentiating?
Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by RedboneSmith(m): 8:28pm On Dec 09, 2016
waternogetenemy:



Dude, so ugbo and igbo need differentiating? Is he confused? Are yorubas confused as to the difference between ugbo and igbo?


One is a major ethnic group, the other is a rural village. Does that need differentiating?

The differentiation is needed because of confused people like this Igbodefender who are going around claiming that the Ugbo are Southeast Igbos.

https://www.nairaland.com/3456196/why-igbo-also-commemorate-queen

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Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by macof(m): 9:29am On Dec 10, 2016
peckhamboi:
You forgot to address the root cause of everything.

My mum is from Ugbo and the Ugbos are the real aborigines of Ile-Ife, then Oduduwa came and murdered our King, Obatala.

We all can agree that Oduduwa is not the progenitor of the Yorubas, then who were the pre-existing Yorubas?

The Ugbos believe Oduduwa came from Benin, to overthrow Obatala and take over the throne. The Ugbos felt angered by this and started

carrying out guerilla attacks on Ile-Ife to claim their city back and later came the Moremi story, where she was captured by the Ugbos and she

married the King and later escaped and later leaked their secrets.

Moremi is a heroine to present day Ile-Ife, but she is also a traitor to the Ugbos. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Let us reason this issue out as matured individuals and let's not resort to insults on our Kings, we are all Yorubas at the end of the day.





Oduduwa murdered Obatala Ugbo believe oduduwa came from Bini stop saying rubbish like this


Obatala left ife for some time out of anger and shame of losing, but returned after being appeased and even given oduduwa's first daughter as a wife... their child became the Olowu


After oduduwa's death, Obatala's younger brother Obamakin started another war and won...Oranmiyan returned years later and took back the throne to house of oduduwa..
it was all a fight of the fittest. the house of oduduwa regaining the throne caused the Ugbo descendants and followers of Obamakin and Obatala(both now dead) to resort to terrorizing Ife


Moremi put a final end to all the chaos

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Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by Olu317(m): 4:38pm On Dec 10, 2016
waternogetenemy:
Can i just ask y everytime yorubas open their mouth they feel the need to mention igbos whether or not we are involved.


An arguement between Ife and Ugbo featured Igbo? Yorubas Y? angry embarassed



You are indeed a dunce. When did your generation began to be addressed as “Igbo "? do you even know. Name thieves. South East people of Ibo for more than One and half century ago (150+ years ) were known as EBOE(s) without “GBO" sound. pèkèlé pèkèlè arugbo je gbèsè ta ni o San. A nwa eran to ni iho igbin na yoju. Will you Get off from Yoruba history. Awon omo ti ko Niran.

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Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by Olu317(m): 4:49pm On Dec 10, 2016
orimsamsam:
Wht Dis one saying can't u see the king was trying to differentiate between Igbo and ugbo. So as not to confuse already confused people like u.
The Ibo people have dubious from past and will always be. “EBOE" or Igbos was the way the Ibos were addressed in the past for more than One and half century (150+ years) . It was only Yoruba that bore that name in many of towns and villages Confused Ibo people. You don't even need to reply the no identity Ibo people who has no reason pass their opinion on Yoruba issues. Ibos are not invited to this forum to relay personal view on here

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Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by waternogetenemy: 5:26pm On Dec 10, 2016
Olu317:
You are indeed a dunce. When did your generation began to be addressed as “Igbo "? do you even know. Name thieves. South East people of Ibo for more than One and half century ago (150+ years ) were known as EBOE(s) without “GBO" sound. pèkèlé pèkèlè arugbo je gbèsè ta ni o San. A nwa eran to ni iho igbin na yoju. Will you Get off from Yoruba history. Awon omo ti ko Niran.

U are a gay. It is not our fault that u cannot spell or differentiate ugbo from igbo.


Even wen corrected u still spell ibo instead of igbo. Go back to school illiterate.
Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by Olu317(m): 5:38pm On Dec 10, 2016
/quote .....@ peckhamboi does not know history. And this because he isn't well read. Imagine the distorting of the highest order about “Obatala died "? , A man who was Married to Okanbi and gave birth to Owu and others. If Olugbo claim Odua was an outsider,from Bini,is that not an insult? All of them even Ugbo people were NOT the original settlers at ILE IFE and Environs but NOK people own the place called ILE IFE.These people were dispelled from there. The thirteen clan migrated to ILE IFE. Where on earth do Yoruba people bear Israeli /Aramaic name as “Oba" in their names? ONIAS ?Elyehyudha? (Eledua) Have you not seen in the Bible,where a chapter credited to an Israeli Prophet called OBADIAH? Olugbo shouldn't cause a discord among Yoruba Race. Is Olugbo the only child born of Royal lineage of ugbo?, I am tempted to beg the Yoruba men who are the king makers in choosing the ordained earthly king by God to consider Yoruba Race's tomorrow because they will create problems for Yoruba Race if the true king to be made is shortchanged. Imagine, a king like Olugbo who was made the king to oversee the reconciliation among Yoruba kings. And here he is trying to open a dead issue which had happened in 8BC/9BC ago .God bless Yoruba Race.
Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by Olu317(m): 6:35pm On Dec 10, 2016
waternogetenemy:


U are a gay. It is not our fault that u cannot spell or differentiate ugbo from igbo.


Even wen corrected u still spell ibo instead of igbo. Go back to school illiterate.
unletterd generation here you come again. Go and do research. There was nothing like “igbo" of South East before 1910 upward. Infact don't let me disgrace your race. When there was already educated Yoruba Race who taught your generation how to read and write,is it not true? WE WROTE THE BIBLE ninety years (90 years) before you did in 1930.Oh my God! That is three generation, do you even know how to count generation? At least, I have thought today. See people that Yoruba took Christianity to their abode when they were eating human beings at Abakaleke (Ebonyi) and other parts are now trying to rub shoulder to shoulder with me?, son of a Yoruba Race. And after a while settled for JENKELE Christian sect called Catholic. Look at this malfuntional oblangata that is permanently secluded from the sphere of human knowledge exchanging historical events with me. You are more regressive than Illiterates . I reaffirm,you were called Ibos/eboe and not “IGBO".These were your original names. Go and read what the British called and your ancestors. No wonder, the slaves that were taken across the Atlantic didn't even know you people because only the igbos of Yoruba existed in their world. If what I opined is wrong, then give one good information on Eboes who are in Americas that do identify with your culture?. Don't forget, you are a nomadic Race like Fulah people. Even Kunta kute identify with his East Africa Race,do you even know Kunta kunte? . Liars and name thieves. Go and find your LOST identity. Lobatan

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Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by waternogetenemy: 7:28pm On Dec 10, 2016
Olu317:
unletterd generation here you come again. Go and do research. There was nothing like “igbo" of South East before 1910 upward. Infact don't let me disgrace your race. When there was already educated Yoruba Race who taught your generation how to read and write,is it not true? WE WROTE THE BIBLE ninety years (90 years) before you did in 1930.Oh my God! That is three generation, do you even know how to count generation? At least, I have thought today. See people that Yoruba took Christianity to their abode when they were eating human beings at Abakaleke (Ebonyi) and other parts are now trying to rub shoulder to shoulder with me?, son of a Yoruba Race. And after a while settled for JENKELE Christian sect called Catholic. Look at this malfuntional oblangata that is permanently secluded from the sphere of human knowledge exchanging historical events with me. You are more regressive than Illiterates . I reaffirm,you were called Ibos/eboe and not “IGBO".These were your original names. Go and read what the British called and your ancestors. No wonder, the slaves that were taken across the Atlantic didn't even know you people because only the igbos of Yoruba existed in their world. If what I opined is wrong, then give one good information on Eboes who are in Americas that do identify with your culture?. Don't forget, you are a nomadic Race like Fulah people. Even Kunta kute identify with his East Africa Race,do you even know Kunta kunte? . Liars and name thieves. Go and find your LOST identity. Lobatan

I assure you there was igbo, but daft like urself that cannot spell, kept corrupting the word.

This is not another one of your yoruba history fabrication, u guys just need to learn to keep igbo out of your tongue and minds.

Learn to make two sentence without mentioning igbo. Try and u will see just how hard it is for yorubas to say 1 or 2 things without Igbo.
Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by Olu317(m): 7:57pm On Dec 10, 2016
waternogetenemy:


I assure you there was igbo, but daft like urself that cannot spell, kept corrupting the word.

This is not another one of your yoruba history fabrication, u guys just need to learn to keep igbo out of your tongue and minds.

Learn to make two sentence without mentioning igbo. Try and u will see just how hard it is for yorubas to say 1 or 2 things without Igbo.
. I am an authority on WHAT I SEND ON THIS FORUM because I studied hard and do research. “Igbo " are now interchange between Yoruba and Ibos but In The Olden days as far back as 180 years or more. South East Nigerians were called EBOES. It has nothing to do with hatred but the truth. as simple as ABC. Go and read first else you will showcase your ignorance before the whole world.
Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by waternogetenemy: 8:30pm On Dec 10, 2016
Olu317:
. I am an authority on WHAT I SEND ON THIS FORUM because I studied hard and do research. “Igbo " are now interchange between Yoruba and Ibos but In The Olden days as far back as 180 years or more. South East Nigerians were called EBOES. It has nothing to do with hatred but the truth. as simple as ABC. Go and read first else you will showcase your ignorance before the whole world.

Wat is this one saying? Wat u call me and wat i tell u, that i am, are two different things.


We have spelt it clearly as igbo, that which we call ourselves. Wat u spell has nothing to do with us.


That one is your incompetence, u simply cannot spell.
Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by RedboneSmith(m): 9:38pm On Dec 10, 2016
Olu317:
. I am an authority on WHAT I SEND ON THIS FORUM because I studied hard and do research. “Igbo " are now interchange between Yoruba and Ibos but In The Olden days as far back as 180 years or more. South East Nigerians were called EBOES. It has nothing to do with hatred but the truth. as simple as ABC. Go and read first else you will showcase your ignorance before the whole world.

At what point did Ibos now switch from this 'Eboe' to 'Igbo'? When did it happen?

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Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by yemsai(f): 10:20pm On Dec 10, 2016
macof:



Oduduwa murdered Obatala Ugbo believe oduduwa came from Bini stop saying rubbish like this


Obatala left ife for some time out of anger and shame of losing, but returned after being appeased and even given oduduwa's first daughter as a wife... their child became the Olowu


After oduduwa's death, Obatala's younger brother Obamakin started another war and won...Oranmiyan returned years later and took back the throne to house of oduduwa..
it was all a fight of the fittest. the house of oduduwa regaining the throne caused the Ugbo descendants and followers of Obamakin and Obatala(both now dead) to resort to terrorizing Ife


Moremi put a final end to all the chaos
Na yoruba u dey study? Abi history?
Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by Olu317(m): 9:40am On Dec 11, 2016
RedboneSmith:


At what point did Ibos now switch from this 'Eboe' to 'Igbo'? When did it happen?
You were even called HEEBO . The people who could boldly lay claim to the word “IGBO" are the “OLUKUMI" group of Yoruba ancestry. And if you want me to educate you, then you must RESPECT my YORUBA Race by typing an online apology on this forum for insulting my OUR HUMBLE AND HOSPITABLE YORUBA RACE that accommodated YOUR EEBO/Ibo RACE. Then I shall begin..
Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by Olu317(m): 10:14am On Dec 11, 2016
waternogetenemy:


I assure you there was igbo, but daft like urself that cannot spell, kept corrupting the word.

This is not another one of your yoruba history fabrication, u guys just need to learn to keep igbo out of your tongue and minds.

Learn to make two sentence without mentioning igbo. Try and u will see just how hard it is for yorubas to say 1 or 2 things without Igbo.
...Lost generation. Mention ten places in your HEEBO towns or villages that had existed before 1900 to support false claim of having been called “Igbo"? As you can read clearly, you have no history that is strong enough to lay claim to the name. I have asked you unlettered generation to mention South America and North America countries where the COLOUR RACE lay claim to HEEBO land as their place of origin.You will have less than 0.1%, yet they don't come looking for people here in Nigeria, Despite your nomadic nature. When in fact the record was that your people were jumping into the Atlantic sea because they were been taken to land of no return. Cowardice generation that fought civil for three years without asking GOD if they could win the war against Nigeria. Yoruba Race had fought against almost every group in Nigeria before the conceptualisation and forming of Nigeria. Go and check Yoruba history and we didn't loose any. Even against Rebellious Afonja that was killed later by JAMAS. slowpoke like your generation didn't even know that the wife that gave birth to the second first cleric of Ilorin(Abdusallam,the rebellious son of Alimi)was a Yoruba woman. Even at that, we didn't accept him because ,he too was a rebel. Go and ask what happened to Emir Momoh in Ilorin 1893/1895.Do you know what Yoruba warriors did to him?. So Igbos ask God first before you embark on a suicidal mission. Lastly, Yoruba Alphabets was used to standardize your language, so you can see the fabricated lies your older generation has passed down unto a lost generation who are looking of ISREAL Identity. The only Israeli identity that is so amazing to White researchers is the YORUBA culture. Yet we are proud about who we are. Be proud of your identity and let ISREAL find you out. The whites researchers don't want to know the god you serve in the South East but they want to know the diety called Eleda /Eledua/Elemi/Eledumare in Yoruba Race. Fact as it stand.
Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by waternogetenemy: 10:20am On Dec 11, 2016
Olu317:
[s]...Lost generation. Mention ten places in your HEEBO towns or villages that had existed before 1900 to support false claim of having been called “Igbo"? As you can read clearly, you have no history that is strong enough to lay claim to the name. I have asked you unlettered generation to mention South America and North America countries where the COLOUR RACE lay claim to HEEBO land as their place of origin.You will have less than 0.1%, yet they don't come looking for people here in Nigeria, Despite your nomadic nature. When in fact the record was that your people were jumping into the Atlantic sea because they were been taken to land of no return. Cowardice generation that fought civil for three years without asking GOD if they could win the war against Nigeria. Yoruba Race had fought against almost every group in Nigeria before the conceptualisation and forming of Nigeria. Go and check Yoruba history and we didn't loose any. Even against Rebellious Afonja that was killed later by JAMAS. slowpoke like your generation didn't even know that the wife that gave birth to the second first cleric of Ilorin(Abdusallam,the rebellious son of Alimi)was a Yoruba woman. Even at that, we didn't accept him because ,he too was a rebel. Go and ask what happened to Emir Momoh in Ilorin 1893/1895.Do you know what Yoruba warriors did to him?. So Igbos ask God first before you embark on a suicidal mission. Lastly, Yoruba Alphabets was used to standardize your language, so you can see the fabricated lies your older generation has passed down unto a lost generation who are looking of ISREAL Identity. The only Israeli identity that is so amazing to White researchers is the YORUBA culture. Yet we are proud about who we are. Be proud of your identity and let ISREAL find you out. The whites researchers don't want to know the god you serve in the South East but they want to know the diety called Eleda /Eledua/Elemi/Eledumare in Yoruba Race. Fact as it stand.[/s]


U are simply an idiot that is attempting to rewrite history to suit your ethnocentric agenda.


It is habitual for yorubas to attempt to rewrite history, just as we witness both yoruba Oba fighting over on this thread.


Dude dont go around blaming anybody becos u cant spell Igbo.
Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by waternogetenemy: 10:31am On Dec 11, 2016
Ny yoruba man can wake up and fabricate customs and history as he likes. They write wateva they like and claim it is history.


If i was to school yorubas on writing, my first point of reference is the difference between fact and opinion.


Yoruba cannot differentiate fact from Opinion, the two are combined and never distinguished.


That is y today the Oni of Ofe and Oba of Benin are fighting. Oni has come up with history that the Oba descended from Ife, the Oba of Benin insist that the Oni of ife descended from Benin.


None of dem make sense, just talking opinion and fantasy.

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Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by RedboneSmith(m): 10:38am On Dec 11, 2016
Olu317:
You were even called HEEBO . The people who could boldly lay claim to the word “IGBO" are the “OLUKUMI" group of Yoruba ancestry. And if you want me to educate you, then you must RESPECT my YORUBA Race by typing an online apology on this forum for insulting my OUR HUMBLE AND HOSPITABLE YORUBA RACE that accommodated YOUR EEBO/Ibo RACE. Then I shall begin..

I think you are quite illiterate and quite mad. Apology? Insult your race? When did I insult your 'race'? Me and you done relate before? I asked a simple question and rather than answer you give me this gibberish about insulting your race and apology? Are you mad?

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Re: Re-ooni Of Ile-ife Vs Olugbo Of Ugbo Kingdom - Moremi Ajsoro: Heroine by Olu317(m): 1:29pm On Dec 11, 2016
RedboneSmith:


I think you are quite illiterate and quite mad. Apology? Insult your race? When did I insult your 'race'? Me and you done relate before? I asked a simple question and rather than answer you give me this gibberish about insultng your race and apology? Are you mad?
You are a fool at the peak of manhood. Foolishness beyond limit is your understanding. I don't even need to qualify you again or inform you on the period of the change of name because you are all back stabbers. After you are told, then, you will turn around to tell lies about it. There's no difference between you and Late Chinua Achebe . Every time I remember him and his hatred for Yoruba Race, I hardly see any thing good coming out of his people but envy and hatred. Just as it has happened again. Even Donald Trump, that ran his mouth without control doff his hat for Yoruba Race. If not, why did he appoint a Yoruba man as member of his economic team? That's the basic truth. Thank God, Yoruba gave you light on education, if it were to be the other way round, you EBOES would have told us to leave Western and North Central Nigeria for you. After all,NO STRANGER of Yoruba Race owns property as LESSEE under LESSOR in the South East,and if there is,he is doomed !!!. Then I emphasize once again that you belong to the Race who are unwilling to obey the pattern in which God has done things. If you cant tender a typed online apology, then,go and do self research on your own or tell your Ibo family members to inform you on the period you were tagged with the name called “Igbo". Go and study again for more twenty (20) years to know more on history. Emi ni emi. Won ni fi elo mi sè mi

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