OlajumokeBread:


God is a scam

Jesus Christ is a scam

Religion is a scam

Bible (story book) is a scam

JesusmyGod1:
Seun osewa u are a wicked man


God almighty will judge you, for rubbishing the Christian Dom, u hatred for Christian u will surely be punished someday.


u claim to be atheist but support Islam
Lest you forget, nairaland is just a platform created to decimate Christianity, thereby initiating gullible minds into ATHEISM.
I rarely comment on this forum but I always observe.

u censored their thread but allow Muslims and atheist to come rubbish our thread


I have something to tell u, u can't stop the gospel


even Islam have tried they failed

alBHAGDADI:
Mathew 10:34

34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.


Did you read the above verse? That verse has been misunderstood by many people in this world. Majority of them wonder why a well known peaceful man like Yahshua could utter such words. Non-Christians have often used that verse out of context to say that Christ supports terrorism and wasn't as peaceful as Christians portray him.

To understand the above verse, we have to understand certain things which will explain the verse better and show how misconstrued the verse has been in the hands of malicious people. Be patient enough to read the below story.

Kareem was born into a devoted Non-Christian family in the Middle East. He loved his God with all his earth and did his best to please him by not questioning the faith as restricted by his religion. However, he stumbled on a Christian book that changed him forever. He started seeing things differently. But the only problem he had was his family members and most especially his country. The punishment his religion prescribes for anyone that leaves it is DEATH.

His father was the first to notice that he has stopped praying and attending their religious house. When he was asked why, he remembered the words of Christ in Mathew 10: 33 which says

"But everyone who denies me here on earth, I will also deny before my Father in heaven."

Kareem couldn't help but confess to his father about his new faith. His father sparked with rage and went straight to the religious house. Little did Kareem know of what his father was up to. Two hours later, a large mob with sticks and stones were gathered in front of his house calling for his head for abandoning their religion. Thank God for the back door, he would have been dead by now. He still couldn't believe his father could want him dead for having a different religious opinion. END


Now that you've read the story, let's see how it relates to the verse. Remember I told you of how the verse is always quoted out of context by malicious people who quote that verse without reading further for more understanding. Let's see the verse again and the succeeding verses. Be patient enough to read through.

Mathew 10:34-39

34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
35 “For I came to SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND A DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER-IN-LAW;
36 and A MAN’S ENEMIES WILL BE THE MEMBERS OF HIS HOUSEHOLD.
37 “He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.
38 “And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.
39 “He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it.

From the above verses, we can see that the sword Christ was speaking of is the type that divides. In the case of Kareem, his love for Yahshua the Messiah has divided or separated him from his family as he can no longer visit them cos doing that will be his death. He has decided to be worthy of Christ by obeying verse 37. Same thing applies when you are redeemed from a pagan family, their lifestyle will no longer make sense to you. They won't want you in their midst anymore. That is the division that the sword of Yahshua brings, not the sword that beheads or cuts human parts.

I hope you now understand the verse very well. If you still haven't, then ask yourself these questions:
1. How come he preached turning the other cheek?
2. How come he prayed for his killers while he was on the cross?
3. How come his message was always love?
4. How come he didn't kill anybody but ressurected a dead man?
5. How come he rebuked Peter for using a knife on a soldier whom he later healed?

I could go on and on...and if at this moment you still dont understand the verse and entire passage, then it means you are not being sincere with yourself.

Peace

hemartins:


One day, you will preach the gospel.

JesusmyGod1:
Seun osewa u are a wicked man


God almighty will judge you, for rubbishing the Christian Dom, u hatred for Christian u will surely be punished someday.


u claim to be atheist but support Islam
Lest you forget, nairaland is just a platform created to decimate Christianity, thereby initiating gullible minds into ATHEISM.
I rarely comment on this forum but I always observe.

u censored their thread but allow Muslims and atheist to come rubbish our thread


I have something to tell u, u can't stop the gospel


even Islam have tried they failed

An2elect2:
Nicely said.

God also creates a divide between genuine Christians and church goers/nominal christians.

I have had to part ways with many who have professed to know Christ but deny Him in their deeds. And many are now my enemies

OlajumokeBread:


God is a scam

Jesus Christ is a scam

Religion is a scam

Bible (story book) is a scam

lonelydora:
Seun, put a creed on Christian threads just like you did to Muslim threads. Stop allowing non christians to post rubbish on our thread.

ambush:
ALL WE NEED IS LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOUR SELF.

aminusanti:
confused hypocrite! So u can understand when a verse is in it context??but when it comes to the Quran u turn your face?
Your explanation is what I call complete nonsense, u are busy contradicting yourself without even realizing it.. most of you Paulians r suffering from Cognitive dissonance.

So r u now trying to tell us that the God of OT is different from NT??

JesusmyGod1:
Seun osewa u are a wicked man


God almighty will judge you, for rubbishing the Christian Dom, u hatred for Christian u will surely be punished someday.


u claim to be atheist but support Islam


u censored their thread but allow Muslims and atheist to come rubbish our thread


I have something to tell u, u can't stop the gospel


even Islam have tried they failed

alBHAGDADI:
Aminusanti is up to his old tricks of derailing a thread by posting irrelevant pictures of scriptures taken out of context.

That Exodus 22:20 is something you pulled out of context just as you always do concerning the verse the OP just explained. Now, let me explain this verse shortly. If you read Exodus from Chapter 20 down to Chapter 22, you will notice that Moses was given out a commandment to the Nation of ISRAEL only, which doesn't count for other nations. It was like their constitution.

God wanted to preserve the nation of ISRAEL and in order to do that, he had to ensure that they don't go after foreign gods which are actually Satan in disguise. Worshipping other gods would lead them astray from produces the main goal which is the Messiah. Now that they have produced the Messiah, such law that orders the killing of any ISRAELite that worships other god is no longer used. That's why we have gays, pagans and even Muslims in Israel today.

As for the Quran verse you showed in the picture, how come there are several verses that contradict that one?


“Kill the idolaters wherever you find them, and capture them, and blockade them, and watch for them at every lookout...” (Quran 9:5).

3:28 Don’t take unbelievers as friends and allies, unless it is for “fear of them,” i.e. deceptively for protection of oneself or of Islam

5:51“O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Whoso of you makes them his friends is one of them. Allah guides not the people of the evildoers.”

9:73
“O Prophet, struggle with the unbelievers and hypocrites, and be thou harsh with them; their refuge is Gehenna — an evil homecoming!”

9:123 “O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.”

48:29 “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are hard against the unbelievers, merciful one to another.”

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah"


Now, compare all these above verses with the Quran verse in the picture below and tell me if the Quran is not contradictory or deceitful.

Halo22:
The truth be told, the reality of life is now sacrificed on the altar of religion. People now misunderstood themselves because of their doctrinal differences. But the question still remains, who are those people that have been writing and rewriting the bible? Cos they are the cause of this problems.

alBHAGDADI:
Aminusanti is up to his old tricks of derailing a thread by posting irrelevant pictures of scriptures taken out of context.

That Exodus 22:20 is something you pulled out of context just as you always do concerning the verse the OP just explained. Now, let me explain this verse shortly. If you read Exodus from Chapter 20 down to Chapter 22, you will notice that Moses was given out a commandment to the Nation of ISRAEL only, which doesn't count for other nations. It was like their constitution.

God wanted to preserve the nation of ISRAEL and in order to do that, he had to ensure that they don't go after foreign gods which are actually Satan in disguise. Worshipping other gods would lead them astray from produces the main goal which is the Messiah. Now that they have produced the Messiah, such law that orders the killing of any ISRAELite that worships other god is no longer used. That's why we have gays, pagans and even Muslims in Israel today.

As for the Quran verse you showed in the picture, how come there are several verses that contradict that one?


“Kill the idolaters wherever you find them, and capture them, and blockade them, and watch for them at every lookout...” (Quran 9:5).

3:28 Don’t take unbelievers as friends and allies, unless it is for “fear of them,” i.e. deceptively for protection of oneself or of Islam

5:51“O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Whoso of you makes them his friends is one of them. Allah guides not the people of the evildoers.”

9:73
“O Prophet, struggle with the unbelievers and hypocrites, and be thou harsh with them; their refuge is Gehenna — an evil homecoming!”

9:123 “O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.”

48:29 “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are hard against the unbelievers, merciful one to another.”

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah"


Now, compare all these above verses with the Quran verse in the picture below and tell me if the Quran is not contradictory or deceitful.

alBHAGDADI:
Am happy for you. This same division occurs when you stop moving with weed smokers, drunkards, thugs, clubbers, etc all because you accepted Christ. They find your new life strange and a threat to their way of life. This makes them cut ties with you.

I hope my Muslim brothers like friendchoice aminusanti Empire udatso rilwayne001 etc can now clearly understand the verse and will henceforth stop trying to use it to claim that Christ was a terrorist or justify Islamic terror. If any of you has viewed this thread without disproving its content, then you will be a totally dishonest person if you keep using this verse to tarnish the body of Christ.

olutop:


Bible preaches violence according to you but xtians dnt kill in the name of Jesus while Quran preaches peace nd muslims kill in the name of Allah.....dere seems to be a 'problem somewhere', maybe how we both understand our God

bilal4riid:

Help me explain the verses below.
Chronicles 25:12
The sons of Judah also captured 10,000 alive and brought them to the top of the cliff and threw them down from the top of the cliff, so that they were all dashed to pieces.(NASB)

Hosea 13:16
Samaria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword, their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open . (NRSV
1 Samuel 15:3,8
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys .’ ” … He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword .(NIV)
Joshua 8:24-26
When the Israelite army finished chasing and killing all the men of Ai in the open fields, they went back and finished off everyone inside. So the entire population of Ai, including men and women, was wiped out that day—12,000 in all. For Joshua kept holding out his spear until everyone who had lived in Ai was completely destroyed . (NLT)

alBHAGDADI:
You never understood the Bible and still don't want to make any effort to. Even when facts and truth are placed in front of you, you will still prefer to listen to the Quran which tells you the Bible is corrupted.

You can't prove how I have contradicted myself. When next you make a remark, Pls back it up with explanation.

The mission of the God of the old testament was to protect the nation of ISRAEL from the neighboring nations whom Satan regularly influences to try to destroy Israel. Same thing is occurring in our time as we can see the nations surrounding ISRAEL all trying to destroy it e.g Lebanon, Palestine, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iran Saudi Arabia etc, majority of whom took part in the 6 day war and are financiers of Hezbollah.

If God didn't protect ISRAEL then, those evil nations of old would have destroyed it, a thing that would have prevented the coming of the Messiah which happened through Israel.

As for the Quran, all its commands were war against non-believers and forceful islamization of nations. An example is how Dan fodio brought Islam to Nigeria and converted your ancestors using a sword.

How come you have never been able to explain to us how we took out of context your Quran commands to kill? And how come you cannot dispute the OP? hope you now see the true meaning of that verse.

realmindz:
Matthew 15 vs 24

He answered, “I WAS ONLY SENT TO THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL.”
The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.
He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the gentile dogs.”



After reading this verse, I wonder why african Christians still believe a dead Jew from an ancient village in the middle East died for them..

alBHAGDADI:
He was only sent to the Israelites at that time, cos he had to save his people first before others. The moment he resurrected, he sent his disciples to go save other nations.

Mathew 28:19

"Therefore go and make disciples of ALL NATIONS, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,"