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Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by octar6: 12:01am On Nov 19, 2009
v.bora is a great car. but d major issue it always have is a problem of over heating.when it starts ,u will never like the stress and pain the car will make u undergo. cool cool cool
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by Nobody: 12:03am On Nov 19, 2009
chelseabmw:

Volks shocked shocked poster are u serious, please go for a japanese car please, Take my advise

And as I told previous posters, share your concerns over this car, without being vague!

Right now, you've given no advice anyone can take.
octar6:

v.bora is a great car. but d major issue it always have is a problem of over heating.when it starts ,u will never like the stress and pain the car will make u undergo. cool cool cool

Every car can overheat, in unfavourable conditions.

How did yours overheat, and what was the found cause?
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by Hesperus(m): 12:26am On Nov 19, 2009
I dont have one, but my brother uses a Bora 2.0. Truth be told, the acceleration is good, and its solidly built. Same goes for the newer golf models.

On the down side, fuel efficiency isn't wonderful so be ready to part with extra quid for petrol. Also, the keys are electronic so things like key cutting and electrical faults have to be done by VolksWagen themselves.
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by desktop: 12:39am On Nov 19, 2009
ayotee2000:

I drive a VW Golf 4. In comparison to most Japanese cars, it's acceleration is superb, the AC freezes much faster and it's has excellent stability on the ground esp when swerving.

I'll confess and say that maintaining it is a bit more than the average Japanese car would cost me, but I get value back in my pleasurable ride. And yes, the brakes are wonderful. You can stop on a dime, seriously!

Obviously, a child who hasnt stepped out always believes his dad owns the biggest farm.

That said, Bora is a golf with a booth, abi?
Golf was the replacement for the Beetle, abi also?
Which beetle carry booth?
Guy dont be deceived by all these cheap stunts o!

The transmission of that car was designed by the devil himself!
Wait till it has an issue, please leave that story about maintenance and owner, na spirit dey drive japanese?

Then wait for this, overheating cos of the weather, or using AC with the car, wait first how many Boras do you see on the road these days compared to when it first came out?

ill make you a deal 24hours after you read this please come back and advice.

You see all this copy and paste from car magazine thing, na long thing!

man mi avoid that car like a virus.

Ask car dealers for a Bora then carefully watch their faces before they respond, that should say it all.

Bora ko, naked mi ni! cool

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Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by badboy: 12:44am On Nov 19, 2009
@ OPThe Bora has very questionable second hand value. Why should a car cost the virtually same as its tokunboh engine? I have seen several clean ones that have been put up for sale at prices between 400k ans 500k. A lot of them are still on sale,after several months. I was almost tempted to buy one but after doing my research from mechanics and all,I passed. My advice is if it's not going to be your third car, take off. I dont know what it is with the car but 7 out of 10 mechanics will advice you against it, if economy is your major criteria. And, the engine is not the same as Golf as stated earlier in one of the posts!!! Confirm this,dont take my word for it,but I confirmed. I am in love with German cars,all my cars have been German and I wouldn't have it otherwise but the Bora and Passat V6 are cars that will make you hate yourself when they 'start driving' you. If you insist on buying,get a good mechanic standby and ensure he has a Launch X431 scanner. If you gamble with electrical faults, you may have intractable problems.When you eventually get fed up and want to sell,car dealers will price the car 200k and pay twice!You said you hardly see it on the road. True,but that alone is enough food for thought. Why is this?? For such a fine car And at such cheap prices The car may be unique,but remember, unique cars come with unique problems. My Volkswagen mechanic calls it CHAIRMAN!!! It's the tag he gives to cars that will stay for months without  being sold. A word they say is enough for the wise.
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by hauwabd(f): 12:51am On Nov 19, 2009
I am not a mechanic o, but I used a Bora for about 2 years, 2003-2005, initially it was fun! until it started developing all sorts of fault, one problem after the other, i was spending money on it more than any other stuff. The windows can just develop problems at anytime, unprepared for it, i think i changed the window engine 3 times and then i had to replace the passenger window, quite pricey at that time, plus the backscreen just bursted/broke when we tried to open the booth one day, i also had to replace that, imagine what that cost. Then finally, it developed gearbox problems, that was d final straw for me, had to get rid of it fast. I have used an Avensis since then and even upgraded to another Avensis now coz of my experience with the Toyota and the fact that they dont give too much wahala! My advise, please do not purchase, instead try either a honda or a toyota! my 2 cents!
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by ibabalol: 1:11am On Nov 19, 2009
if bora is jetta, my brother two words , run away
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by adasi678: 6:25am On Nov 19, 2009
Please you need to be very careful buying Bora. my company bought seven as official car and none of them is working now. gear and engine problem and cost of maintenace is high.
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by tonyissey1(m): 7:41am On Nov 19, 2009
i have used this car from new i bought it from Doyin motors in 2001 and since then i have been servicing it at stallion motors ever since, it a utilty car no doubt but after a while it wud start the bora phenomenom that is 1.the A/C system is bad initially its is very effective afterwards from the condenser to compressor to the dryer bottle you wud be changing at intervals UNTIL the car is sold (2) the under engine is aluminium i read some1's post saying it depends on the driver its a big lie i wud tell anyone any day we all know our road condition its very bad expecially when it rains you cud enter a pot hole and dat's it and u cant mend aluminium you ave to kip changing your problem is compounded when the gear seating is bad it is also attached to the aluminium stuff its hell fixing it (3) the gear comes out al will thats a normal occurence but with copper wire you wud overcome it LOL (4) the boot latch you wud only enjoy it for a month after dat you wud start to use your keys welcome to the club
(5)heating system is very bad the water hose and accessories are very fragile and troublesome dats no big deal and the radiator fans always buy extra when you go to the spareparts market and pls always insist your mechanis use the diagonising machine when it needs repairs so as not to waste money always
then lastly for now when ever you are going out always have it in mind that you might not come home with your ride cos of mechanical faults and always hold money when you drive it out ok and PLS I HOPE THE ONE YOU WANT TO BUY IS NOT BLUE WITH A REG NO THAT STARTS WITH CQ AND ENDS WITH EKY IF ITS TAHTS THE BASTARD AND TALKING ABOUT GD LUCK THE CAR WUD TELL YOU MORE ABOUT ME

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Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by badboy: 9:00am On Nov 19, 2009
@ Siena

Kindly let us know ur present position on the durabilty of Bora,after reading these first hand,FACTUAL, experiences from pained previous OWNERS!!! Did you notice what time hauwabd replied?Even after two Avensis as consolation, the pains are still fresh. As for tony_Issey,I feel your pain bro. I have this friend with a worse tale than yours. Perhaps I should join you both so you write a book titled Travails of the Bora Owner,after which you both sue and close down volks wagen.From a 350k initila purchase( he thought he had hammered),he's now spent =N=1.1m and counting. If you see how sweet this car looks,you wont believe it's capable of such bleeding. Next thing I hear say him tow the the car for deliverance,
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by Kc0022000(m): 10:20am On Nov 19, 2009
Bora is a good car but lack of good road and climate is a disadvantage for the ride in Nigeria, go for Japanese but if u got big money stay put cheesy

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Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by Nezan(m): 11:04am On Nov 19, 2009
^^^ Quite agreed with dat.
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by trulyopal(f): 11:07am On Nov 19, 2009
i beg for the expert advise of past and present volkswagen owners. i hav a volkswagen suran, (luks like toyota matrix or peugeot 306), evrythin was beautiful btw us, until i decided to change d batteries, upon replacing it, the car simply refused to start up, d mechanic said d security has locked d car up , therefore we hav 2 do some coding issues. i am skeptical on allowin any quack mechanic touch d car,im yet to meet someone dt has d supposed equipment for the coding. pls advise and recommend on wat 2 do. thanx.
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by Iranoladun(f): 11:10am On Nov 19, 2009
I used Volkswagen Polo for a while and I had half of the the bad experiences described above by various Nlanders on V. Bora.

I'd advise you to go for Honda or Toyota if you want to enjoy your investment in car acquisition!
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by Nobody: 11:14am On Nov 19, 2009
badboy:

@ Siena

Kindly let us know your present position on the durabilty of Bora,after reading these first hand,FACTUAL, experiences from pained previous OWNERS!!! Did you notice what time hauwabd replied?Even after two Avensis as consolation, the pains are still fresh. As for tony_Issey,I feel your pain bro. I have this friend with a worse tale than yours. Perhaps I should join you both so you write a book titled Travails of the Bora Owner,after which you both sue and close down volks wagen.From a 350k initila purchase( he thought he had hammered),he's now spent =N=1.1m and counting. If you see how sweet this car looks,you wont believe it's capable of such bleeding. Next thing I hear say him tow the the car for deliverance,

I run a service centre here in the UK, as an independent Audi / Volkswagen specialist.

I can't say I've ever had a Bora with mechanical or electrical failure, in all my years in the trade. Prior to becoming self employed, I worked within the Volkswagen-Audi dealership network for 10 years. I owned a Bora 1,8 20V turbo manual for 5 years, and the only work she had was normal service items, and 1 timing belt replacement. Nothing electrical or mechanical failed on this car. She was 3 years old when I bought her, with 33,000 miles on the odometer, and when I sold her 5 years later, I had racked up a staggering 186,000 miles, making the total of 219,000, with several trips to France, Germany and Spain. Never went wrong.

I later owned a Bora 2,8 V6 24V 4Motion (AWD) which I ran for 3 years, bar the fuel consumption, to be expected  with a 204hp V6, mated to 4-wheel drive. I took this car to Austria twice, to attend Treffen, one of Europe's biggest Audi / Volkswagen events, and again, nothing on this car went wrong. All I ever replaced on her was usual service items, and tyres.

My older sister also runs a 2000 model year Bora 2,0 SE manual, and has had it for the past 7 years, apart from a leaking water pump, has never had any failure. Her car has clocked up 205,000 miles, and she certainly doesn't drive her gently!

The Boras in Nigeria are no different to the ones in Europe or the United States, and before you blame the Nigerian climate, think of temperatures in Texas, or Nevada, United States, and you'll discover the weather's often hotter than that in Nigeria. I'm on several Audi / Volkswagen forums, and owners of Boras (Jetta in the US) have nothing bad to report.

The failures in Nigeria, I still maintain, are caused by rogue mechanics, who at best can be described as "tinkerers". The hit-or-miss approach when working on cars is never a good idea. It's best if a mechanic is honest, and admits a particular car is beyond his scope of knowledge, rather than wade in, and discover all too late, he's way out of his depths.

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Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by Nobody: 11:22am On Nov 19, 2009
truly-opal:

i beg for the expert advise of past and present volkswagen owners. i hav a volkswagen suran, (luks like toyota matrix or peugeot 306), evrythin was beautiful btw us, until i decided to change d batteries, upon replacing it, the car simply refused to start up, d mechanic said d security has locked d car up , therefore we hav 2 do some coding issues. i am skeptical on allowin any quack mechanic touch d car,im yet to meet someone dt has d supposed equipment for the coding. pls advise and recommend on wat 2 do. thanx.

Your ECU has locked-out. Often happens in any car, if the battery was connected the wrong way round, before the mistake was realised.

Your "mechanic" needs to recode the ECU. He'll have to go into Adaptation mode, then basic settings, and restore factory settings. Takes a couple of minutes, if he knows what he's doing. I'd suspect not though!

You guys need a proper VAG Service Centre in Lagos, which I am looking into setting up soon. I'm going to be in Nigeria shortly, though not a long enough visit to warrant bringing my kit over, I'd have enjoyed doing some soft coding, and loading different maps to Nairalander's cars.

Soon though!
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by Nobody: 11:24am On Nov 19, 2009
The secret to enjoying a VW in Nigeria is your mechanic! If you do not have access to a qualified VW mechanic who will service, maintain and repair your car permanently, FORGET IT!! Most Nigerian mechanics know the japanese stuff but wont tell you they're doing trial and error with your VW shocked

I've had my Golf4 for two years and the only thing I've ever changed are the window motor gadgets, and there was the issue of water accumulating behind the drivers seat - both are standard problems on the Golf4, both have been fixed though teh window one recurred twice but even VW admits its a general problem with that series. Beyond that , all I've done is service, buy fuel and clean it and believe me, its gone through a whole lot of travelling and daily runs in the last two years!! The engine has still never needed touching - I got a good guy from the start.

The legend of German Engineering is real, but only if you treat it right.
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by Nobody: 11:37am On Nov 19, 2009
marissa:

The legend of German Engineering is real, but only if you treat it right.

And here lies the key. cool

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Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by german007(m): 11:47am On Nov 19, 2009
@marissa.

"The legend of German Engineering is real, but only if you treat it right."



Yes Indeed. You couldnt have said it any better. Spot on. Right on point.

I think you'v said the final phrase , Correct enough to end this thread, lol
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by Nobody: 12:03pm On Nov 19, 2009
That phrase is my Facebook quote of the day, thanks Marissa!
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by mrofficial(m): 12:04pm On Nov 19, 2009
chelseabmw:

Volks shocked shocked  poster are u serious, please go for a japanese car please, Take my advise

How come your nick says chelseabmw?
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by Nobody: 12:06pm On Nov 19, 2009
mr.official:

How come your nick says chelseabmw?

LMAO! cheesy
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by german007(m): 12:15pm On Nov 19, 2009
@mr official

Lol. Was thinking the same.

@Chelseabmw.

I was quite thwarted when I saw your comment " poster are u serious, please go for a japanese car please, Take my advise" .  Coming from a self acclaimed bmw fanatic, that was unexpected.   Perhaps you should change your screen name from chelseabmw  to "chelseahonda or chelseatoyota". lol
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by mrofficial(m): 12:22pm On Nov 19, 2009
Siena:

LMAO!  cheesy

How come danfo still rules?

Are they addicted? Abegi. though, I don't know much about automobile.

I use Volkswagen Bora. No car wey no get wahala. They should stop saying this that. If you love this car, go and buy it.

Depends on how you use the car, like Siena said. Make una stop to dey commend Toyota, does not worth it.

Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by mrofficial(m): 12:26pm On Nov 19, 2009
german007:

@mr official

Lol. Was thinking the same.

@Chelseabmw.

I was quite thwarted when I saw your comment " poster are u serious, please go for a japanese car please, Take my advise" .  Coming from a self acclaimed bmw fanatic, that was unexpected.   Perhaps you should change your screen name from chelseabmw  to "chelseahonda or chelseatoyota". lol

He loves BMW.  And he dislikes Volkswagen grin

No be the same bus dey drive all of them?  cheesy
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by badboy: 2:44pm On Nov 19, 2009
@ SienaNice one! Ur reply is well informed I guess. Perhaps u should do a Bora show here man! BRING ALL YOUR EQUIPMENT AND COME AND HAMMER, nationwide,since you are a VW expert,the protagonist in this show. Meanwhile,talk true, how come you have all these records going way back 5 years in such detail? Is it that you too suspected the car from the start and you started taking logs to confirm your suspicions,only to be disproved?Anyway,no long thing@OP  I still maintain,dont buy that car yet O! Siena go soon come,wait let him chose the car for you o! Any attempt to do otherwise is at your own risk O! Him go go back jans with him equipment,na u  go dey roast o! No hurry in life.
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by emyworld: 2:54pm On Nov 19, 2009
i would advise you go for a japanese car. I sell cars and i know that japanese cars can offer you much more advantage than volks. VW dont always have second hand value unlike their japanese counterpaarts. Believe me, dont make that VW purchase yet. very important. Rather go for an avalon, camry.
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by cassytoons: 4:43pm On Nov 19, 2009
ayotee2000:

I drive a VW Golf 4. In comparison to most Japanese cars, it's acceleration is superb, the AC freezes much faster and it's has excellent stability on the ground esp when swerving.

I'll confess and say that maintaining it is a bit more than the average Japanese car would cost me, but I get value back in my pleasurable ride. And yes, the brakes are wonderful. You can stop on a dime, seriously!
I think wth dat advert, am buying a aGolf next, grin
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by octar6: 5:19pm On Nov 19, 2009
@siena. my had a problem of over heating and it was associated with our very hot weather.my friend also complained of the same .believe me,i treated my car like a baby but it still messed up.i was told by the audi after sales mechanicc that over heating and electrical faults are always associated with the v.bora. cheers. my advice is get a japanesse car.
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by mrofficial(m): 5:29pm On Nov 19, 2009
octar6:

@siena. my had a problem of over heating and it was associated with our very hot weather.my friend also complained of the same .believe me,i treated my car like a baby but it still messed up.i was told by the audi after sales mechanicc that over heating and electrical faults are always associated with the v.bora. cheers. my advice is get a japanesse car.

Does not imply to everyone. I use Volkswagen Bora. Though, i had problem with overheating, and i suffered much when i was giving the car to the wrong mechanics. Came a day when the Lord removed me from the wahala, I gave it to this man he assured me and told me that he'll have to change the fan, he changed the fan and he didn't put a Volkswagen fan, he put another fan entirely, cut the fan to the size of the car radiator. Now the temperature meter does not rise to 50, if it gets to 50 that's where it stops.

You might just have to fix 1 or 2 things to get the car working perfectly. Get the right mechanic!
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by fili24: 1:06am On Nov 21, 2009
una wey dey post nonsense
i used VW Golf 4 for 2 years and indeed Germans try for that car
if you like VW so much its better you go for the Golf 4(europe).
but presently i drive a Toyota Corolla
toyota is far more better saves you your money bro
Re: Information On Volkswagen Bora by Nobody: 9:12am On Nov 21, 2009
fili24:

una wey dey post nonsense
i used VW Golf 4 for 2 years and indeed Germans try for that car
if you like VW so much its better you go for the Golf 4(europe).
but presently i drive a Toyota Corolla
toyota is far more better saves you your money bro


What's nonsense about having an opinion?

And what is different between a VW Golf IV and a VW Bora?

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