Seun:
It's not clear from the quoted text that God promised the safe return of muslims from hajj. There are real issues, but this isn't one of them.

Comment to be moved to the Islamic section

plappville:


You can only tag any terrorist a Christian only if you can prove that Jesus and his Apostles kill a soul.

Or instructed Christians to do so.

No Christian will/can kill for Jesus.

Muhammad and his army killed and they pass this command to be repeated in order to preserve Islam.

Stop twisting and tagging angry Atheists terrorists as Christians. Stop killing their loved ones, They will stop attacking you.

Haroun13:
[s]
There is nothing to prove. According to your mentality, Christian terrorists are practising Christianity better than moderates like you, and they have the bible to support them, simple and short.


Please, there are many instances in the bible. If you want quotes, I can give them to you.


But the LRA, KKK, Army of God and others are doing it.


Your opinion, of no importance or relevance, at least, not in this case.


Seriously? I'm not surprised. I guess that's a Christian tactic. Show them the works of their brothers, and they blame it on atheism. Funny.

The only thing that really makes sense in your post is the verse you cited, and I will be dealing with it. But I know you don't want to be convinced. But I pray you are, In shaa Allah.

"And slay them wherever ye catch them.." [Noble Quran 2:191]
Let's read the verse in context.
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And kill them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for persecution and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, kill them. Such is the
reward of those who reject faith. But if they cease, God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression. The prohibited month, for the prohibited month, and so for all things prohibited, there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear (the punishment of) God, and know that God is with those who restrain themselves." [Noble Quran 2:190-194]
How many times do we see the above verse repeating the message to make it clear? These verses were revealed at a time when Muslims of Madinah were under constant attack from the Makkans. An example would be when the Makkans conducted the public crucifixion of the
companion of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), Khubaib bin Adi. These would be classified as 'terrorist activities'
according to the modern usage of the term. So what does this verse say in this context? "Fight in the cause of God those who fight you", "unless they (first) fight you there" - the context of this verse applies to those who initiate the attack against Muslims. And even after they attack, the verse makes it clear:

"But if they cease, God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." [Noble Quran 2:192]
And it also makes clear the purpose for what Muslims fight:
"Fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God". [Noble Quran 2:193]
It is the duty of Muslims to defend humanity from oppression and persecution and to establish justice. Muslims believe that God has placed us here on earth as his deputy or viceroy, and thus, it is our duty to enjoin the good and forbid the evil, to establish peace and justice in the land.
Dr.Maher Hathout writes the following on verses 2:190-194:
These verses were applicable to a particular situation or if, hypothetically, the same situation was to be repeated... Historically, fighting back against the aggressors was prohibited during the thirteen years of the Meccan period. After the migration to Medina and the establishment of the Islamic state, Muslims were concerned with how to defend themselves against aggression from their enemies. The aforementioned verses were revealed to enable them to protect the newly formed state by fighting in self-defence against
those who fought them. However, the Quran clearly prohibits aggression. The verses explain that fighting is only for self-defence. Thus, a Muslim cannot commit aggression and kill innocent men, women, children, the sick, the elderly, monks, priests, or those who do not wish to fight. A Muslim is also mandated not to destroy plant life of livestock. (Hathout, Jihad vs. Terrorism; US Multimedia Vera International, 2002, p.49, emphasis added)
The historical context is something that must always be considered where developing an understanding of Quranic verses. Without
knowing the circumstances behind the revelation, one cannot apply the verse as accurately.
Sheikh Salman Al-Oadah writes about the general principles in Jihad:
Jihad can never be fought for worldly gain, for conquest, or even for revenge. Muslims must only fight to protect the lives, property, and freedoms of people, especially their freedom to worship Allah when that freedom is forcibly attacked.
They are never allowed to attack innocent people, even when they are themselves attacked by the countrymen of those innocents. Any people that go against this established principle of Islamic Law and murder civilians are fighting against Islam and everything that it stands for. It is ludicrous for them to call this fighting a Jihad, a
word that means striving in the cause of Islam. They are in fact murderers in the light of Islamic Law and should be treated as such.
There are strict and detailed laws in Islam, which Muslims must follow carefully. A military Jihad must be performed under these regulations.

Abdullah Yusuf Ali writes about verse 2:190:
War is only permissible in self-defence, and under well-defined limits. When undertaken, it must be pushed with vigour, but not relentlessly, but only to restore peace and freedom for the worship of
God. In any case strict limits must not be transgressed: women, children, old and infirm men should not be molested, nor trees and crops cut down, nor peace withheld when the enemy comes to terms. (Yusuf Ali, The Holy Quran, Text, Translation and Commentary)

He then re-iterates the general principles behind
Jihad in his commentary on verse 2:191: In general, it may be said that Islam is the religion of peace, goodwill, mutual understanding,
and good faith. But it will not acquiesce in wrong-doing, and its men will hold their lives cheap in defence of honour, justice, and the
religion which they hold sacred. Their ideal is that of heroic virtue combined with unselfish gentleness and tenderness, such as is exemplified in the life of the Apostle. They believe in courage,
obedience, discipline, duty, and a constant striving by all the means in their power, physical, moral, intellectual, and spiritual, for the establishment of truth and righteousness. (Yusuf Ali, The Holy
Quran, Text, Translation and Commentary)

This is the true focus behind Jihad, and Muslims must never lose this focus. Jihad is solely for the purpose of aiding humanity and bringing justice and freedom to the oppressed. Therefore, all actions must be in-line with this focus and the strict regulations governing Jihad. The focus is to defend, not destroy. One who focuses on the betterment and aid of humanity will realize that destruction will never achieve this.[/s]

Seun:
It's not clear from the quoted text that God promised the safe return of muslims from hajj. There are real issues, but this isn't one of them.

plappville:


The thread is moved here to avoid what? Sigh***

To you Muslims, there hasnt be anytime an atheist has done anything wrong.

You keep Tagging all atheists as Christians.

Christian and Jews are your greatest threats. Your quran commanded you to kill them.

Since Muhammad was not strong enough to force Islam in their throat, He commands you to hate them with so much passion.

Thats why you muslims kill Jews and Christians.

And also tag them with Criminal names even when the bible condemns such.

I tell you the truth. You will fail.

Just like Muhammad failed when He ate the poisoned food.

I may not come here again. Since the thread has landed in here. So keep fooling and deceiving urself.

Haroun13:

The thread being moved is not my doing.


I never made such a statement. Rather, what I said is that it is cowardice and stupidity to blame something clearly done by a Christian, with support from the bible, on an Atheist. Simple and short.
A Muslim kills, you say he is a true Muslim. Yet, a christian kills, instead of also saying he is a true Christian, you say he is an atheist. Such nonsense.

You are so ludicrous. Your brothers are killing millions, keep telling yourself they are atheists.
#SelfDeceit.

The only verse you brought has been explained. Also, my promise to give two violent bible verses in return still stands. Also, as a bonus, I may give an x-rated verse of the bible in addition.

Yet the Qur'an says the closest to Muslims are Christians. You have no point.

Because your bible allows people to kill for things like glory, honour and other meaningless things does not mean that the Qur'an allows people to kill, for such. Please, be reasonable.


The same bible that allows you to kill for glory and honour? Nonsense.

Do you mean my exams?

Yet he lived for 3-4 years after, and completed his message.

OK.

I want to appeal to the mods to make this thread open for all to make comments.

Salaam.

plappville:

It is coward of you to tag him a Christian when He does not meet up to the definition of a true Christian according to the bible.

Romans 8:14 ►
For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.



What are the characters of the Spirit of God according to the bible?


Galatians 5:22-23
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.


Did you see terrorist there?



The verse above has refuted you.



The verse above is enough.



Same Qur'an that said this:

indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures



How contradictory is all.ah?



You are laughable. ..


How old are you? It seems I am talking with a kinder here


He died of the poisoned food PERIOD ! ! The Hadith is not at your favour here.



Please do. It will expose you more..



This is one word Muslims misuse. They know no peace. Yet they say "peace. You should say "war" instead. Brainwashed abo.k.i.

Alennsar:
d Muslims do jihad. because jesus taught jihad. but u know d funniest thing? d bible never establish Christianity but d Quran estatblish Islam nd Jesus was never a Christian nd he will never be

Alennsar:
all dis will not help u nd it won't take u anywhere. repent before it will b late, hellfire is no joke my dear.


I believe u can do better cos all of dis will stand as a witness against you and your colleague on the day of reckoning. it will be u nd ur fate.











Cc. plappville

BAGHDAD (AP) — A car bomb in Baghdad killed at least 45 people and wounded nearly 50 others on Thursday, Iraq's Interior Ministry said.

Ministry spokesman Brig. Gen. Saad Maan confirmed the toll from the attack, which took place in the southwestern al-Bayaa neighborhood.
The Islamic State group claimed the bombing in an online statement circulated by its Aamaq news agency. The Sunni extremist group said it was targeting Shiite Muslims

plappville:

Laughable

Alennsar:
do u read d bible at all?

MUHAMMAD AND THE SATANIC VERSES:
Plz follow link and educate yourself about the origin of Islam

plappville:


Yes, i have also read about
MUHAMMAD AND THE SATANIC VERSES:
Plz follow link and educate yourself about the origin of Islam

http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Saifullah/sverses.htm

Alennsar:
Jesus was d first to preach jihad we Muslims are just following him.
Luke 19:27


and d bible ask us kill pedophile

deutronomy 13:5-10, 17:2-5

but u see u lack knowledge of d bible itself so debating with is a waste of time and energy.

good luck though

TODAY AGAIN:

The Islamic State has claimed responsibility for a suicide bomber's attack at a Sufi shrine in Pakistan on Thursday, with local police telling AFP that as many as 70 people are dead.

The attack took place in the city of Sehwan in Sindh province, where the closest hospital is over 40 miles away. "There was a huge crowd gathered there for the [religious gathering] at the shrine, and there was a very big explosion," Sindh's health minister, Sikandar Mandhro, told Al Jazeera. "The medical facilities at Sehwan are not equipped to deal with a very big emergency, so our first priority right now is to get help to the wounded."

Pakistan has been rocked by terrorist attacks this week, with 13 people killed in a suicide bombing in Lahore on Monday, two police officers killed trying to defuse a bomb in Quetta on Tuesday, and five people killed in a suicide bombing Wednesday in the Mohmand tribal area.

plappville:

It is coward of you to tag him a Christian when He does not meet up to the definition of a true Christian according to the bible.

Romans 8:14 ►
For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.

What are the characters of the Spirit of God according to the bible?
Galatians 5:22-23
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

Did you see terrorist there?
The verse above has refuted you.
The verse above is enough.

Same Qur'an that said this:
indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures

How contradictory is all.ah?

You are laughable. ..

How old are you? It seems I am talking with a kinder here

He died of the poisoned food PERIOD ! ! The Hadith is not at your favour here.

Please do. It will expose you more..

This is one word Muslims misuse. They know no peace. Yet they say "peace. You should say "war" instead. Brainwashed abo.k.i.

Haroun13:
Mods, please make this thread open to all, to comment. I see no reason why it should be restricted. I don't shy away from religious discussions because the Qur'an is a perfect Revelation, and the truth about it needs to be available for everyone to view, know, and In shaa Allah, accept.
Take the thread back!

Cc: Seun

HayatH:
If you don't like Islam and what it teaches, that's your opinion. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion but you don't have to disrespectful. I'm pretty sure all of you know the old saying, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all"
You also shouldn't believe everything you see on the internet.
1. There's extremist in every religion. You can't generalize a whole religion based on these groups.
2. There's many people converting to Islam. If Islam was a religion of violence, this wouldn't happen.
3. Not everybody is the same. For goodness sake, stop judging people without knowing them first.
4. This is all I have to say. I'm not going to waste my time arguing with ignorant people. Save your bullshit for someone self. Get the hate out of your system and have a nice life

Haroun13:

So also, it is a mere show of cowardice on your path, to tag Boko Haram, Isis, etc, as true Muslims, when they do not meet the definition of true Muslims according to the Qur'an, as seen in 10:99, 2:256, 16:125, 2:195, 8:61, 109:1-6, 5:32 and many more.
You sure do know how to twist things, when it comes to Christianity, yet, fabricate lies, when it comes to Islam. You sure amaze me!


That's quite interesting. Since according to the verses I quoted above (my above post), the spirit of God led Saul to exterminate a nation for no reason. But he was reluctant, and I wonder why. Maybe it was the devil dissuading him from killing people, and making him disobey the blood thirsty Yahweh.


Well, the bible tells me that this is also a character of the spirit of God (according to you).
Deuteronomy 13:
6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.


Go read you bible, you will not only see terrorists, but extreme terror, genocide, extermination and wickedness of a bloodthirsty God.


So? What's the problem with Quran 98:6 which you quoted above. I keep telling you that anyone can make rules, but what matters is making them count.

The analogy that God loves everyone is fallacious. How would it make a believer feel that with all of the good deeds he has performed and all the love that he showed towards God when he finds out that God loves the corrupt people who showed hatred towards Him as well? It is not fair. It is illogical. Also, it would mean that God loves satan. I wonder how that makes sense. If you have a problem with this verse, then, you are gonna have to contend with tons of them in your bible.
E.g,
Psalm 5:4-6
4 You are not a God who takes pleasure in evil; with you the wicked cannot dwell.
5 The arrogant cannot stand in your presence; you hate all who do wrong.
6 You destroy those who tell lies; bloodthirsty and deceitful men
the LORD abhors.


Psalm 11:5
5 The LORD examines the righteous, but the wicked and those who love violence his soul hates.


Leviticus 20:23
23 You must not live according to the customs of the nations I am going to drive out before you. Because they did all these things, I abhorred them.


Leviticus 26:30
30 I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars and pile your dead bodies on the lifeless forms of your idols, and I will abhor you.


Romans 9:13
Just as it is written: " Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."

And many more.

I don't expect Christians to accuse me of committing the tu quoque fallacy, for I am not trying to defend the Quranic perception of God by simply pointing out that it exists in the Bible as well. I don't see anything rationally objectionable against the idea of God hating someone in the first place.


How contradictory is Yahweh.


That's debatable. But you, you keep on making rules that don't count, and can be refuted simply by logic, not just once, but even twice in a minute. That's the true meaning of being laughable.



Maybe. But I'm sure you know there's something called masters degree, ph. D, etc. If someone in that category (not saying that i am) is a kid to you, you must be quite an old lady. Or, it was just a rhetorical question. Pick whatever option you like.



You basically have no point here. Also, I don't know why you laid emphasis on the word, "period", because it drives home no point. It's simply a term in Physics, used to define the time taken to make a complete revolution, or oscillation, for objects moving with simple harmonic motion.


I guess you are right. It will be a means to expose more of the true teachings of Islam, not the fabricated lies of majority of Christians, of which you are included.


You should really become a comedian.
First, from what I've gathered from my northern brothers, "aboki" means "my friend". Also, it's not an acronym, so, I don't see why you are using the "." in it.
Lastly, apart from the last word, "aboki", every other thing you have written is irrelevant. If you want to know true peace, then come to Islam. You may experience the peace due to "absence of war". But I'm talking about true internal peace, that only comes from worshipping your Lord, Creator, without partners, and submitting to His will totally.

Salaam.

Haroun13:

So also, it is a mere show of cowardice on your path, to tag Boko Haram, Isis, etc, as true Muslims, when they do not meet the definition of true Muslims according to the Qur'an,

[s]as seen in 10:99, 2:256, 16:125, 2:195, 8:61, 109:1-6, 5:32 and many more.
You sure do know how to twist things, when it comes to Christianity, yet, fabricate lies, when it comes to Islam. You sure amaze me!


That's quite interesting. Since according to the verses I quoted above (my above post), the spirit of God led Saul to exterminate a nation for no reason. But he was reluctant, and I wonder why. Maybe it was the devil dissuading him from killing people, and making him disobey the blood thirsty Yahweh.


Well, the bible tells me that this is also a character of the spirit of God (according to you).
Deuteronomy 13:
6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.


Go read you bible, you will not only see terrorists, but extreme terror, genocide, extermination and wickedness of a bloodthirsty God.


So? What's the problem with Quran 98:6 which you quoted above. I keep telling you that anyone can make rules, but what matters is making them count.

The analogy that God loves everyone is fallacious. How would it make a believer feel that with all of the good deeds he has performed and all the love that he showed towards God when he finds out that God loves the corrupt people who showed hatred towards Him as well? It is not fair. It is illogical. Also, it would mean that God loves satan. I wonder how that makes sense. If you have a problem with this verse, then, you are gonna have to contend with tons of them in your bible.
E.g,
Psalm 5:4-6
4 You are not a God who takes pleasure in evil; with you the wicked cannot dwell.
5 The arrogant cannot stand in your presence; you hate all who do wrong.
6 You destroy those who tell lies; bloodthirsty and deceitful men
the LORD abhors.


Psalm 11:5
5 The LORD examines the righteous, but the wicked and those who love violence his soul hates.


Leviticus 20:23
23 You must not live according to the customs of the nations I am going to drive out before you. Because they did all these things, I abhorred them.


Leviticus 26:30
30 I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars and pile your dead bodies on the lifeless forms of your idols, and I will abhor you.


Romans 9:13
Just as it is written: " Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."

And many more.

I don't expect Christians to accuse me of committing the tu quoque fallacy, for I am not trying to defend the Quranic perception of God by simply pointing out that it exists in the Bible as well. I don't see anything rationally objectionable against the idea of God hating someone in the first place.


How contradictory is Yahweh.


That's debatable. But you, you keep on making rules that don't count, and can be refuted simply by logic, not just once, but even twice in a minute. That's the true meaning of being laughable.



Maybe. But I'm sure you know there's something called masters degree, ph. D, etc. If someone in that category (not saying that i am) is a kid to you, you must be quite an old lady. Or, it was just a rhetorical question. Pick whatever option you like.



You basically have no point here. Also, I don't know why you laid emphasis on the word, "period", because it drives home no point. It's simply a term in Physics, used to define the time taken to make a complete revolution, or oscillation, for objects moving with simple harmonic motion.


I guess you are right. It will be a means to expose more of the true teachings of Islam, not the fabricated lies of majority of Christians, of which you are included.


You should really become a comedian.
First, from what I've gathered from my northern brothers, "aboki" means "my friend". Also, it's not an acronym, so, I don't see why you are using the "." in it.
Lastly, apart from the last word, "aboki", every other thing you have written is irrelevant. If you want to know true peace, then come to Islam. You may experience the peace due to "absence of war". But I'm talking about true internal peace, that only comes from worshipping your Lord, Creator, without partners, and submitting to His will totally.

Salaam.[/s]

plappville:


Really? then how about the terrorism verse i posted earlier

and also Quran 8:60 where your Allah

says in Arabic a language that you cannot speak read or write perfectly like the ISIS. A terrorist language.

It says:


ﯘﯙﯚﯛﯜﯝﯞﯟﯠﯡﯢﯣﯤﯥﯦﯧﯨﯩﯪﯫﯬﯭﯮﯯﯰﯱﯲﯳﯴﯵﯶﯷﯸﯹﯺ
SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged.

So your Allah is saying that Muslims should terrorize their enemies and the enemies of Allah and you come and tell us that there is no terrorism in Islam?

How come you did not know that? So are you reading the same quran that we kuffar, ISIS and BOKO read?

Now why the lies and fabrications you telling NL?

I urge you to leave islam and be free from the Arabs

and their imperialism and their god who tells your likes to terrorize the rest of humanity.

YOUR GARBAGE IS IGNORED..

plappville:


'I Am just back from a ban. Its difficult to expose the evil in Islam. Some of my comments are deleted. You Muslims are favoured in NL. Thats not fair! But i will continue even if i get ban after this post again.
How perfect is the Quran as seen below:
If it needs to be seen by everyone

why deleting comments that do not even relate to insult but only expose the truth?

Keep faking yourself.

Here are some characters of The man you call prophet.

Its even prohibited for me to call his name name because i might get ban.

FIGHTING:

Bukhari:V4B52N50 "The Prophet said, ‘A single endeavor of fighting in Allah's Cause is better than the world and whatever is in it.'"

Qur'an 9:88 "The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause."

Qur'an 9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Qur'an 9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."

Qur'an 9:29 "Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."

Qur'an 8:39 "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."
Qur'an 9:14 "Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them."

TERROR
Bukhari:V4B52N220 "Allah's Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror.'"
Qur'an 8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."
Qur'an 8:57 "If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned."
Ishaq:326 "If you come upon them, deal so forcibly as to terrify those who would follow, that they may be warned. Make a severe example of them by terrorizing Allah's enemies."
Qur'an 8:67 "It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughtered in the land."

WAR
Ishaq:472 "Muhammad's Companions are the best in war."
Qur'an 8:7 "Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: ‘Wipe the infidels out to the last.'"
Qur'an 8:12 "Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: ‘I am with you. Give firmness to the Believers. I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes."
Qur'an 8:15 "Believers, when you meet unbelieving infidels in battle while you are marching for war, never turn your backs to them. If any turns his back on such a day, unless it be in a stratagem of war, a maneuver to rally his side, he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell, an evil refuge!"
Qur'an 8:39 "So, fight them till all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam."
Qur'an 8:45 "O believers! When you meet an army, be firm, and think of Allah's Name much; that you may prosper."
Qur'an 8:57 "If you meet them in battle, inflict on them such a defeat as would be a lesson for those who come after them, that they may be warned

plappville:


Go and sit somewhere go to the US come to the West with ur PHD you will be reduced to an undergraduate

I have known many Nigerians like you. Brag with your forged diploma that you canned even defend outside Nigeria.

The truth is that, You do not present any quality/prove of a phd holder.

You are just been arrogant and pained.

Back to the OP or you keep silent forever.

Haroun13:

It was perfectly explained. Now, you go defend your bible, because I exposed a lot of violence embedded in it. But like I promised before, you will hardly be able to defend it without making a fool of yourself.


This is the verse I least expected you to quote, because, if you are smart, you'll notice that I quoted 8:61, just in my above post, as a verse which terrorists, and amazingly, bigots like you, ignore.


Funny, because you just exposed yourself. Amazingly, Kkk, LRA, Army of God, etc happen to understand the bible far better than you.



I could write pages upon pages, explaining the virtues of this verse. But you are not worth it. So, I'm gonna dismiss your ideology in a few seconds.
If your hate didn't blind you, you'd have seen the immediate next verse. But I guess you can't.
8:61 And if they incline to peace, then incline to it [also] and rely upon Allah. Indeed, it is He who is the Hearing, the Knowing.


It's actually you and your lying brethren that say such nonsense. Go and defend your bible.


Seriously? I least expected that from you. Go and defend your bible verses. Also, my promise still stands. You get a refutation, and two extremely violent bible verses, most of which you can't defend without making a fool of yourself. Also, as a bonus, I could also expose some of the x-rated, pornographic content of the bible.


Go and defend your bible, or give up on you folly.


That's quite funny. I could say the same for you. Leave Christianity and be free from the lies and brainwashing of your christian missionaries.


If self defense is terrorism, that means the verses of the Qur'an on that aspect are mere bedtime literature for kids, compared to the bible which commands extermination of entire nations, for glory and honour, and even for reasons as stupid and trivial as "nothing". Quote me, the bible, and Yahweh command killing of people for absolutely nothing
A typical example is in the verses in my above post. What a joke!



Funny you say that, since in your next post, you replied the same post you called garbage here. Seems like you are confused.

AlamienDagash:

now u re lieyin, iz pple like u whu makes muslim bad in d eye of d world. how could a prophet nt save himself? if nt 4 prophet muhammad(saw) i whud hve call u illitrate