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|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by Nobody: 9:37pm On Jan 11|
menxer:you seem to confuse believing in something and admitting it's existence, they are not the same,that is the point I want you to get
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|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by Themandator: 9:47pm On Jan 11|
Christianity or religion is a universal movement and not in one country of the world is the headship determined by government policy. The government everywhere only ensure that their finances are expended in the best interest of the sect and larger society and not channeled into anti state activities
Is the sultan going to step down as the leader of the Muslim community in Nigeria?
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by kjhova(m): 9:53pm On Jan 11|
And what could this obvious reason be, please pray tell?
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by Nobody: 9:57pm On Jan 11|
kjhova:do you know what is classified as blasphemy in islam and do you know what happens to people that are said to blaspheme against Islam?, if yes,then that your question was uncalled for
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|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by oruma19: 10:24pm On Jan 11|
INTROVERT:I was ashamed when I heard it was suspended. It made me doubt the sincerity of this gvt. Buhari is there to do the right thing and not to make people happy. The so called GOs have created an empire for themselves and not for God. This also includes Muslim clerics that are either too old or have stayed in power for too long. Nigerian pastors pay tax in the UK but when they come to Nigeria they will be fighting against laws that are supposed to bring sanity to the system. where should u actually pay tax or obey laws if u r sincere, is it not in ur own country? We cannot be suspending the law of the land because of one person. That's not justice. I pity Nigeria. We are not ready to grow yet.
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by kjhova(m): 10:29pm On Jan 11|
Christians have killed as many in time past. It is not new to me that religious folks can be that intolerant.
Cajoling an atheist into fear and silence doesn't make him any less an atheist. That said, there are many atheists in the Arab world who see through the shenanigans of Allah hu Akbar and all. That they remain closet atheists while publicly professing Islam don't make them less than me.
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by Nobody: 10:32pm On Jan 11|
kjhova:we are saying the same thing, same reason why atheist fond it easier to pick on Christians and are scared to use that same momentum to criticize Islam
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|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by kjhova(m): 10:37pm On Jan 11|
I have heard. Original point remains that as an atheist, I have no joy in a church head standing or falling. It Doesn't make any difference to me and thus I don't have to, in your words, "masturbate" to such news.
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by Nobody: 10:40pm On Jan 11|
kjhova:speak for yourself cos I can see your fellow atheist have been masturbating on every topic related to this issue
Regards to you too
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|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by deomelo: 10:47pm On Jan 11|
I agree with and support the OP's assertions.
These churches and pastors are leeches and parasites, the run for profit and parsonal gains multi billion naira enterprises, universities, build and buy mansions all over the world and fly private jets while hiding behind their churches without paying 1 Kobo in taxes, the same taxes for roads, bridges, hospitals, military, police the rest of the society are forced to pay.
I really don't care for the man they sacked, but he shouldn't have been sacked for doing his job.
This is the FG rubbishing and undermining our institutions for padi padi and political reasons and even conflict of interest since the VP belongs to the same church.
They might as well close or terminate this agency if it can not do what it was created to do.
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by menxer: 11:14pm On Jan 11|
Here is what you said:
that I don't believe in it doesn't make me an atheist
If I should use your words, then:
"that I don't believe in Allah doesn't make me an atheist"
"that I don't believe in Jehovah doesn't make me an atheist"
"that I don't believe in Vishnu doesn't make me an atheist"
Now who is confused?
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by BetaThings: 5:25am On Jan 12|
1. I want you to state with concrete examples why you believe that atheists cannot attack Muslims
2. I also want you to disprove with concrete examples this assertion I am now making that Muslims are actually attacked more than Christians
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by ladgentle: 6:12am On Jan 12|
What an intelligent submission! People like you are the reason people like me still visit nairaland.
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by ekpotek: 6:41am On Jan 12|
The only thing aspect of this code I have found offensive is setting tenure limit for head of church/mosque. By the way can some tell me the tenure limit of the Pope who is the head of Roman Catholic church?
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by BetaThings: 7:18am On Jan 12|
The People of Nigeria shall resist this attempt by you to portray as ignorant group
People like you fail to read and understand issues but are quick to jump up and make stunning assertions
It is always "Buhari is clawless" (sic)
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by Nobody: 7:22am On Jan 12|
The power to regulate NGO's lies solely with the CAC. FRCN is NOT a regulatory body. This is why it has NO enforcement powers and has to rely on others like the CAC, SEC, CBN and FIRS. It was the old National Accounting Standards Board. It is advisory and educative. It is trying to become a regulatory body by expanding its remit and has now experienced rightful push back. It's not the first push back it is experiencing - CBN and SEC were the first and now it is the MoT ( it's supervising ministry) and now the FGN
I am certain that the new chairman Dotun Sulaiman will do an excellent job. I worked under him for several years at Arthur Andersen ( now KPMG) and he is highly cerebral and principled. What we expect from the FRCN is persuasive power. It should be issuing guidance notes on difficult areas of accounting practice and ensuring that all financial accounts are standardised; easy to understand for shareholder and investor. It can issue censure notes. A word of censure from it should be enough. Unfortunately there is no belief in this type of institution in Nigeria.
We are essentially still a militarized people who believe in authority only if it comes with a stick. This is why people obey policemen only if they carry guns. It isn't our fault - we were moulded into it by decades of military rule. But it is our individual responsibility to come out of it from the way we train our children to the way we run our companies. This is the only way we can weaken those in government who wish to oppress us - by not giving them wood for their fires. The search for controlling power and recognition is the bane of our country. When we as people begin respecting quiet authority we will get the positive changes we seek.
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by Nobody: 8:08am On Jan 12|
menxer:the difference between me and you is that I do recognize it's existence unlike you atheist who deceive yourselves by trying to dispute the existence of God, if you are not trying to be mischievous, why take the first sentence and throw away the explanation I gave to buttress my point? , now let me point out your confusion and make it very clear for you , there is a difference between " I don't believe in God " and God does not exist ",so my friend don't try to be sneaky by taking the first line of my post, it doesn't tell well of you
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by Nobody: 8:19am On Jan 12|
BetaThings:before I reply you, are you a Muslim or an atheist?
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by menxer: 8:46am On Jan 12|
My question was well defined, I never asked about existence but believe, which you answered. I don't see how sneaky I was in asking that.
Your answer was simple, concise and cannot be misconstrued, so why the digressional explanation about existence?
@bolded, is that an attempt at emotional blackmail?
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by Nobody: 9:06am On Jan 12|
menxer:we are saying the same thing, you cannot associate believe with atheism rather "acknowledging the existence" is what atheism stands for, seems you don't know the difference between the two, go back and read mark's response to the Facebook user's question,maybe you will get a clearer picture, and you should also find out the concept of atheism too, stop confusing the two and by extension confusing yourself as well, I don't know how else to explain to you,have a nice day
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by menxer: 8:39pm On Jan 12|
There is an angle to this argument that I wanted to avoid, but you are pushing it there.
If you say: "that I don't believe in it (Baal), doesn't make me an atheist," and an atheist by "your" definition is one who doesn't "acknowledge the existence" of God or gods.
It therefore means that since you are not an atheist, and you acknowledge the existence of Baal, and existence by definition means "the fact or state of living or having objective reality." It therefore means that Baal is a living God. This by extension means you don't believe in a living God.
And that being the case, it means the claim that the Christian God (Jehovah/Yahweh) is the only living God is a fallacy.
this will take us to polytheism which is in direct contravention of the Christian monotheism, are you ready to go there?
As used here, "God" is singular while "gods" is plural. Same as "Orange" doesn't taste differently from "oranges."
Hope you had a great day?
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by Nobody: 9:42pm On Jan 12|
menxer:Oga leave me alone,i have made my point, goodnight
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by menxer: 9:47am On Jan 13|
What point did you make?
Thou shall not run for there is no hiding place from the Truth.
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by Nobody: 10:00am On Jan 13|
menxer:truth?, hehehehe, make no mistake, I am not running, but when i see that the delusion of a person is beyond redemption, I have better threads to comment on than to spend days pointing out one same thing over and over to you, adiós
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by menxer: 10:28am On Jan 13|
I feel the same way too.
|Re: Why I Support FRCN's Governance Code For NGOS by FactualSpeech: 12:08pm On Jan 15|
u mean all non government organizations including private firm has no relationship with the government
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