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| Questions To All The YEC In The House. by mazaje(m): 7:09pm On Dec 08, 2009 |
This goes to all the YEC in the house (OLAADEGBU, No2Atheism) Since you guys love using science to support your various theories that the universe is 6000 years old, I will love to see your scientific method of dating that shows that the earth and the universe are both 6000 years old. Science has provided objective and credible method to prove that the earth/ the universe is much more than 6000 years old, since you guys disagree with the scientific method for dating the earth and the results it has shown, what credible scientific methods do you guys have to show that the earth and the universe are 6000 years old? Why is the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe wrong? |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by DeepSight(m): 7:19pm On Dec 08, 2009 |
I hope you are aware that nowhere in the Bible is the suggestion contained that the earth is 6000 years old only. |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by Tudor6(f): 7:23pm On Dec 08, 2009 |
^^ isn't it obvious the 6000 years was calculated using biblical geneology? |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by DeepSight(m): 7:26pm On Dec 08, 2009 |
^^^ Which is ridiculous because the account in Genesis 1 & 2 leaves room for the passage of millions of years before the creation of Adam. So why should anybody use the genealogy of man to arrive at the age of the earth? Is man the earth? How clever is that now? ? ? |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by mazaje(m): 7:41pm On Dec 08, 2009 |
Deep Sight: I know but the YEC believe other wise. . . By the way this topic is not really about what the bible says or does not say. It is my understanding that the bible does NOT say anything about the age of the universe or the age of the earth, even though the YEC believe other wise. . .I am only interested in their own scientific findings and method of dating thats proves that the earth and the univserse are both 6000 years old. . . |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by viaro: 7:41pm On Dec 08, 2009 |
Deep Sight: Please ask them. This is the same point I tried to make in another thread in the statement: 'Nor did He try to use Adam or Even to determine the age of the earth or the cosmos!' |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by Tudor6(f): 8:49pm On Dec 08, 2009 |
Deep Sight:Go ask the deluded No2Atheism. I'm sure the "creator" revealed it to him. |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by noetic15(m): 11:11pm On Dec 08, 2009 |
mazaje: stop idolizing science. The credibility of scientific insights have been brought to question over and over again. There is yet no reason to believe that the earth is billions of years old or that the chimpanzee-like species found in forests are humans who ever walked on the surface of the earth. |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by theseeker2: 11:47pm On Dec 08, 2009 |
Noetic and co, pls stop making a fool of religion. THE EARTH IS NOT 6,000 YEARS OLD! YEC DEFIES COMMON SENSE! |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by mavenbox: 2:55am On Dec 09, 2009 |
let me throw some questions into the mix, it may make us consider some interesting perspectives. I do not firmly agree with the YEC but I wonder if our definition of the age of the earth is not corrupted by the fact that we imagine that time as we know it has always been in existence (or, more correctly, that the universe has always experienced a translation in time since its inception) When, with respect to the Universe as portrayed by the Bible, was the time continuum established? Was it shortly after God began all the work, or, because time only made meaning to a finite man and not an infinite God, did the clocks start ticking when the aspects of the universe that would be TANGIBLE to Adam's experience started existing? I.e. Gen 1:3 So can it be possible that the earth and universe all came into existence in space without a passage of time as we know it, and the time continuum began ticking somewhere between Gen 1:1 and 1:3, which would still place the earth's age at roughly 6000 years as far as the limitations of man's measurement of time? (man can only measure time between two established references of time. What happens when the supremum, the initial reference, is unbounded above or does not exist? How do we measure it then? Mathematically speaking, what do you get when you subtract negative infinity from, say, 1000?) |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:44am On Dec 09, 2009 |
mazaje: We all have the same evidence all around us (fossils of plants and animals), the universe and layers of rocks. What is different is how we interprete the evidence and this is essentially due to our presupositions. We (YEC) base our thinking and interpretation on the authority of the Bible while you guys base your thinking and finding on the fallible, faulty assumptions of man. Check the link below to find out why we differ on our interpretations on the finding of NASA. Click on http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2006/0323inflation_theory.asp for our viewpoint on NASA's findings. |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by mazaje(m): 3:51pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
noetic15: Science has given us some of the best and accurate knowledge of the things we see around, The scientific process has helped man to understand the world around him better than any other process and it still remains the best way to observe and explain things we see around with empirical evidence. The fact that science has its own short comings does not mean that its established methods of measurements are false. There is no reason to believe that the earth is billions of years according to who or what? Have you conducted your own measurements that says otherwise? |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by mazaje(m): 3:58pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
OLAADEGBU: More ridiculous drivel. . .The bible is also the thinking and VERY faulty assumption of men weather you accept it or not, A simple reading of the books proves that its is CLEARLY the thoughts, fantasies and assumptions of men nothing more. I just want you to stop poking holes at scientific findings as regards to the age of the earth or the universe and give or show us your own credible scientific method of dating that proves that the earth is 6000 years old. . . .YEC only try to show that there are some mistakes in the scientific dating methods but they have NEVER provided their own scientific dating method which proves that the earth is 6000 years old. . . . |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by DeepSight(m): 4:34pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
Any claim that the earth is only 6000 years old is not only preposterous but uneducated in the extreme. Olaadegbu - The bible does not propound this. The genealogy of man is the genealogy of man, not of the earth. Man is actually a very late arriver on this planet. On an imaginary age scale of 1 - 100, man appears on the scene when the earth is over 99 years old. |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by mazaje(m): 4:39pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
OLAADEGBU how many years did adam and eve spend in the |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by mavenbox: 4:43pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
Deep Sight: |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by DeepSight(m): 4:44pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
Mazaje - The Garden of Eden is not a mythical place. But it never existed on this earth. It existed, and exists, within the primordial spiritual realm, the spiritual dimension which is the original home of the human spirit. |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by Nobody: 4:45pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
the_seeker: you're preaching to the wind . . . we already know and even the bible has made that point very clear. Gen 1: 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. To say the earth was "void" means it was once populated at a particular period before man. What else did you want to tell us? |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by Nobody: 4:46pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
mazaje: Of which carbon dating (the means by which science arrives at the nonsense called the age of the earth) is completely inaccurate. |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by DeepSight(m): 4:49pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
^^^ David, i am not sure it is fair to say that it is completely innacurate. Perhaps we should say that it has only approximate results, and may often deliver errors in significant margins. But that is not to say it is altogether useless and cannot give a ball-park idea. |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by Nobody: 4:55pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
Deep Sight: Carbon dating is flawed, we know that but we are so over-rawed with the invincibility of science that we dare not utter those words. |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by mazaje(m): 5:13pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
davidylan: And the correct measurement of the age of the earth can be found in which chapter and verse of the bible? |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by Nobody: 5:17pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
mazaje: The bible never at any point told you it served as your measuring device. Feel free to go measure the age of the earth yourself. |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by mazaje(m): 5:28pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
davidylan: Tell that to OLAADEGBU and his bedfellows in the YEC movement who believe that the bible is the most accurate measuring device known to man when it comes to knowing about the age of the earth and the universe not me. . . . . . |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by kolaxy(m): 5:29pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
Exodus 20:11 "For in six days the LORD made the heavens and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it." |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by mazaje(m): 5:30pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
kolaxy: So according to this verse the age of the earth and the universe is. . . . . . ? |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by kolaxy(m): 5:32pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
Roughly 6000 years  |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by mazaje(m): 5:35pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
kolaxy: Excellent. . . .  |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by kolaxy(m): 5:42pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
According to the above verse, God made heaven and earth (Man inclusive) in 6days. If God created heaven and earth and Man in 6days , and if the genealogy of Adam to date is roughly estimated to be 6000years, then, it is right for me to assume or say that the earth is 6000years Old. At least biblically. |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by KunleOshob(m): 5:51pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
The bible never stated that Adam is the first man, go and read you bible again. Infact there are several hints of a pre-Adamic man in the book of genesis. Man was created in Genesis 1: 26-27, whilst Adam was created Genesis 2:7-19 |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by mazaje(m): 5:57pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
| Surely the holyspirit is busy sending diffrent signals to different people with regards to the age of the earth and the universe. . . . .I laugh in igbo. . . |
| Re: Questions To All The YEC In The House. by kolaxy(m): 6:00pm On Dec 09, 2009 |
KunleOshob: You have every right to believe whatever you want to believe |
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