jonbellion:
The christians are always fond of saying that "carnal minds" can never understand the bible.
Well my mind must be be carnal then
2 kings 2:11
As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind.
John 3:11
No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven--the Son of Man.(these were jesus' words)
I don't think you need a soothsayer to tell you there is something wrong here
What's your say on this christians
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Funny
Jesus was actually talking about the teachers of the law in that passage.
Nichodemus being a teacher of the law couldn't understand the earthly things Jesus was teaching him.
Therefore Jesus was actually saying that, if you being a teacher does not understand earthly things, how would you understand Heavenly things when none of you (teachers) have been to Heaven before.

John 3:10-12(NET)
10 Jesus answered, “Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you don’t understand these things?

 11 I tell you the solemn truth, we speak about what we know and testify about what we have seen, but you people do not accept our testimony.

 12 If I have told you people about earthly things and you don’t believe, how will you believe if I tell you about heavenly things?

Please don't read out of context. There are no contradictions in the Bible.

God bless you
God loves you
Live for Him

randomperson:
Lolz... It's pretty interesting seeing the attempts by Christians to explain this contradiction...
It seems the best they can do is to ignore the actual words of the bible text and use their own words....
The funny thing is that the bible places a curse on those who remove from or add to the bible

HHahaha Haha finishing

Junia:


Funny
Jesus was actually talking about the teachers of the law in that passage.
Nichodemus being a teacher of the law couldn't understand the earthly things Jesus was teaching him.
Therefore Jesus was actually saying that, if you being a teacher does not understand earthly things, how would you understand Heavenly things when none of you (teachers) have been to Heaven before.

where was the law been taught by Nicodemus received from?

akintom:

Elijah and En

question: how was he conceived?
answer: of the holyghost
answer: born of the virgin Mary
did he come to fulfill a prophesy?? are u following or should keep going?

CriticMaestro:
it's fine really cuz i've argued muslims before and i know where they are coming from but u guyz i just cant imagine..lemme ask u a simple question to u atheist, try and answer it honestly please, when u were 10 years old what did u believe in?

akintom:
where was the law been taught by Nicodemus received from?

God

CriticMaestro:

question: how was he conceived?
answer: of the holyghost
answer: born of the virgin Mary
did he come to fulfill a prophesy?? are u following or should keep going?

all these are mere and unverifiable claims. Didn't Jeremiah claimed the god made him prophet before he was conceived?

Did Jesus descend bodily from heaven?

CriticMaestro:
it's fine really cuz i've argued muslims before and i know where they are coming from but u guyz i just cant imagine..lemme ask u a simple question to u atheist, try and answer it honestly please, when u were 10 years old what did u believe in?

when I was that age I believed in god
but bro that was like 14 years ago

Junia:


God

and god is in heaven?

Why will Jesus now be calling the law given to the Jews, through his prophets and taught by Nicodemus, AN EARTHLY THINGS?

akintom:
and god is in heaven?

Why will Jesus now be calling the law given to the Jews, through his prophets and taught by Nicodemus, AN EARTHLY THINGS?

The guy is lost
Jesus was teaching Nichodemus what it means to be born again and not the law. And being born again only happens on earth here. We dont become born again in Heaven.
Please read the Bible before you come to argue

jonbellion:
when I was that age I believed in god
but bro that was like 14 years ago

funny enough, the most bonifide of atheist were once christians who were in trouble and prayed to God to save them or change their situation but when that did not happen the stop believing...lemme ask u, do u believe there are demons, evil spirits, magic etc?

akintom:
all these are mere and unverifiable claims. Didn't Jeremiah claimed the god made him prophet before he was conceived?

Did Jesus descend bodily from heaven?

unverifiable you say yet u are on this thread because of a quote in the book u claim to be unverifiable, which side are u on? its not right to believe some and leave some, u gotta choose

CriticMaestro:
funny enough, the most bonifide of atheist were once christians who were in trouble and prayed to God to save them or change their situation but when that did not happen the stop believing...lemme ask u, do u believe there are demons, evil spirits, magic etc?

no
I'm a naturalist as well

adepeter26:

when u were 10 years old what did u believe in?

CriticMaestro:
when u were 10 years old what did u believe in?

I believed in myself & God (xtian god)

jonbellion:
no
I'm a naturalist as well

that's fine, but can u prove how the human being came into existence? forget evolution, that theory has already been quashed by scientists

adepeter26:

I believed in myself & God (xtian god)

when did u stop believing in God and what happen?

CriticMaestro:
funny enough, the most bonifide of atheist were once christians who were in trouble and prayed to God to save them or change their situation but when that did not happen the stop believing...lemme ask u, do u believe there are demons, evil spirits, magic etc?

But funny enough, did you no God never saved any of us?
We don't believe in god neither spirits nor demons

CriticMaestro:
when did u stop believing in God and what happen?

6yrs ago. Nothing happened. I only began to realize "many" things about the religious god never summed up to be what we were told. They were all lies

CriticMaestro:
that's fine, but can u prove how the human being came into existence? forget evolution, that theory has already been quashed by scientists

lol
It has not
We are a product of evolution by natural selection
I however do not know the cause of existence after the universe started expanding

adepeter26:

But funny enough, did you no God never saved any of us?
We don't believe in god neither spirits nor demons

the truth is no one is born an atheist, they all learnt not to believe in God

jonbellion:
lol
It has not
We are a product of evolution by natural selection
I however do not know the cause of existence after the universe started expanding

Atheism is natural to man, it is the most comfortable position. It is a reflection of his depraved state being engulfed in sin. The Bible states: the fool has said in his heart there is no God. Why, because there is so much evidence to the contrary? No, it is more of a hopeful out look so that they will not be accountable to anyone or for anything they have done.

jonbellion:
lol
It has not
We are a product of evolution by natural selection
I however do not know the cause of existence after the universe started expanding

I tire for this people o-o. Atimes, i ask myself if the religious people sit-down just a second to think and ask themselves this question; "what of the concept of God or idea of God was a story told by the cave men to their children and the tale kept on spreading from generation to generations just like the story of Harry Potter"

What if the ideology of God's existence is synonymous to the stories told by our forefathers to their grandchildren at night? (moonlight tales)

CriticMaestro:
Atheism is natural to man, it is the most comfortable position. It is a reflection of his depraved state being engulfed in sin. The Bible states: the fool has said in his heart there is no God. Why, because there is so much evidence to the contrary? No, it is more of a hopeful out look so that they will not be accountable to anyone or for anything they have done.

Why is the Bolden always the sword of the theists?

akintom:

Elijah and Enoch were given birth to, they claimed to have met and received messages from Yahweh. At the end, they both were ferried to heaven.

Jesus was given birth to and claimed all that Elijah and Enoch claimed. He was ferried to heaven too.

* what is the difference between the three of them?

* did Jesus descend from heaven? Noooo

Another name for crap is contradiction.

You are one of the most unintelligent "freethinkers" I've met on this forum. The magnitude of the stupidity of the questions you ask is staggering. I mean, to think that you claim that you once had anything to do with Christians is currently impossible for me.

Please, go and work on your comprehension before you quote me. Unintelligent questions are not meant to be answered.

CriticMaestro:
the truth is no one is born an atheist, they all learnt not to believe in God

We were born what then? Theists? Déiste? Or what? On the day you were conceived, what's was ya belief?

DoctorAlien:


You are one of the most unintelligent "freethinkers" I've met on this forum. The magnitude of the stupidity of the questions you ask is staggering. I mean, to think that you claim that you once had anything to do with Christians is currently impossible for me.

Please, go and work on your comprehension before you quote me. Unintelligent questions are not meant to be answered.

why must you always insult
You can make your point without being obnoxious you know

adepeter26:

We were born what then? Theists? Déiste? Or what? On the day you were conceived, what's was ya belief?

dont be ignorant, there's no way u were an atheist at the age of 10...hardly even a christian, because like atheist all christians learn to believe is not something u inherit..

CriticMaestro:
unverifiable you say yet u are on this thread because of a quote in the book u claim to be unverifiable, which side are u on? its not right to believe some and leave some, u gotta choose

am on this thread because the crap compiled in the bible, is inherently harmful to the gullible and mentally weak folks.

Besides, it's the obvious contradictions in the fictitious story book called Bible, that's the focus here.

The crap you put forward as the explanation for the contradiction, further revealed the deeper incoherence embedded in the buy-bull.

CriticMaestro:
dont be ignorant, there's no way u were an atheist at the age of 10...hardly even a christian, because like atheist all christians learn to believe is not something u inherit..

Am lost oo. Can you please read the message you quoted in response to what we are discussing?

adepeter26:

Why is the Bolden always the sword of the theists?

you dont believe in God because u claim u are thinker and yet u have no logical explanation to nature, u just believe everything shaped itself from dust and pieces, who shaped the dust?? are u really thinking or is d devil doing it for u??huh

DoctorAlien:


You are one of the most unintelligent "freethinkers" I've met on this forum. The magnitude of the stupidity of the questions you ask is staggering. I mean, to think that you claim that you once had anything to do with Christians is currently impossible for me.

Please, go and work on your comprehension before you quote me. Unintelligent questions are not meant to be answered.

hohoh..... Kikikikikikiki...... This follower of nazarene is hurt in the most delicate place.