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Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by fmlala: 11:15pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
[quote author=AutoReportNG post=54183768]I am forced to give you a rebruttal, but you don't deserve it. If your firm can't take to corrections, just too bad, trust me, too bad. God bless Nigeria[/quot Wetin be your own self? Go and condem any latest BMW or Mercedes and let's see. The mouth way u na take kill mmm be that. Bad belle upandan |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by myplaydiary: 11:16pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
Victorclean1:I think you are making a mistake in your post, i am not the one against Innoson here look through the comments you will find them, however if thats what you intended writing then i think you are one hell of a joker, your comedy really got me cracking, i think you should be on stage with the likes of I go die, basket mouth and Ay. if you dont think so then you need psychiatric help and if you are on meds already dont miss your drugs again and always sleep early, you need to relax your brain more often than not. |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by Coolgent(m): 11:18pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
Mtss trash |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by EazyMoh(m): 11:18pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
ChiefSweetus:My problem with you people is how you can comfortably lie to yourselves and then try to convince us it's the truth. Do you know what 30% really is? Commercial transport is dominated by Toyota Hiace busses and the Mercedes Benz Marco Polo Luxury busses. I have never seen an IBM used in commercial transport. And trust me I travel a lot. Port Harcourt to Kano, Kano to Lagos regularly. 6 Likes |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by MutantMetahuman: 11:21pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
ChiefSweetus:dude You have serious problem with mathematics. Atleast next time make it clear you are talking about 30% of new cars. Tata is making waves more than innoson at the moment in the transportation sector. Next time you wanna make bogus claim, atleast come with proof. I have never seen any innoson car before in my life and I travel a lot. 1 Like |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by myplaydiary: 11:23pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
Lordsocrates:i dont want to derail this thread atleast not now.. |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by ChiefSweetus: 11:23pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
EazyMoh:I have seen TOO MANY innoson buses in different shapes and sizes. Brand new and broken down. In the south west and south east. Is Innoson feeding my kids and side-chics that i will hold brief for him? Facts are facts and i am speaking from my own unique experience/observations. |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by ChiefSweetus: 11:25pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
MutantMetahuman:How will you see when they load you inside the nama section of the lorry? 3 Likes |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by DonaldGenes(m): 11:25pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
myplaydiary:
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Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by nenergy(m): 11:26pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
AutoReportNG: I agree with the above. See my message to them last year. 3 Likes
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Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by wristbangle: 11:29pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
U are getting it all wrong myplaydiary. What the guy mentioned earlier was the truth and learn how to imbibe constructive criticism instead of being too defensive. Your reaction speaks volume of the automobile brand readiness to other competitors in the market. I need to recall you about what sources gathered that most Innoson employees including the CEO use foreign brand vehicles which sends wrong signals to consumers. Ofcours you will want to tell me he is entitled to use any automobile brands that suites him but hey! that doesn't speak well for his brand. You must have heard of how toyota management team sacked their employees who use competitor brands such as honda, mazda, etc. Why can't we emulate such? Charity truly begins at home. 5 Likes |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by EazyMoh(m): 11:30pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
ChiefSweetus:I didn't say you never saw any, I myself have seen a lot, even on my street. What we are arguing is the 30% you are comfortable quoting. Let me give you an example, it means if I stand by the road side and count ten commercial vehicles then at least 3 of them will be innoson. Haba you too reason am now. The most likely scenario is that you will stand there for the whole day, you will be lucky to see just one! 4 Likes |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by Sanchez01: 11:31pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
In addition should innoson, do many of the highlighted as mentioned by the OP he is shoting himself in the foot and indeed sending a signal to foreign car manufacturers who will see the prospect in setting up car plants in the country and in the long run throw the innoson car brand into the Abyss of One time Indigenous car Manufacturing brand best deal he will get is that they will by his plant over or partner with him but name changes.This is absolute rubbish! Indigenous or not, every company must brace for competition. It is the best way of staying afloat. If at this stage, Innoson is scared of healthy competitions then it only implies it is not ready to succeed in the auto world as far as Nigeria is concerned. First off, I have been observing the trend of the brand for over a year now and I am not surprised that the brand is yet to break even. How can it when the target audience are the wealthy and highly placed folks in the society who pose with your vehicles on social media but never drive them? I still believe the brand is still churning out prototypes as they are not yet ready. Myplaydiary, kindly go through the emboldened as posted by you and find below what Auto Josh pointed out which, according to you, would make Innoson fizzle out; 1 . customer care/social media (The heart and soul of every business) 2. Show Rooms (the perfect breeding ground to exhibiting your array of vehicled) 3. Spare parts/accessories (Like hell!) 4. Advert (The heart of every business) If you are scared of doing the above because it would stiffen the competition by seeing many rival companies here, then it's a way of saying the Innoson brand should not be trusted because rather than quality service, the brand is just profit conscious. PS: I honestly don't understand what is wrong with the thinking of most Nigerian companies. It's as if we are programmed to making the same mistakes time and time again. Innoson is clearly not ready. It is not by 'it is our own'. You have to provide those things Auto Josh mentioned to create aggressive awareness about the variety of products and also assure potential customers that there are more than enough parts of your vehicles out there. And rather than note his points, you're being defensive with some flimsy excuses. So typical of Nigerian brands. Later they'll say we don't like patronizing our own. 14 Likes |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by lexy2014: 11:33pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
myplaydiary:some time ago AutoReportNG did a write up on gov obianos Toyota jeep.I was disappointed in his write up and asked him y he didn't rather showcase innosons products instead of toyota.he responded by saying that getting info from innoson about its products was a difficult task& he raised those issues in his write up today.I agree with him but am lost at d kind of responses u put up 2 his argument.in this age, innoson isnt active on d internet.it's a shame.being a new coy is even more teason to b active in d e-space.digital marketing is a great way 2 get ur msg out there except u aren't sure of urself.so when u say innoson and its employees "aren't paying attention" then how will it manufacture cars that will provide customers with a satisfying experience when it doesn't pay attention to whats happening in it's environment? Again u say innoson isn't competing.this is strange cos if u aren't competing,then what are u doing?there is a market dominated by global brands.so u mean innoson isn't interested in getting a share of d market? U say innosons products are in high demand.where?even in public transportation u talked about,Toyota is d dominant brand. Again u said innoson needs ,"references, customers and clients" yet u said innoson isn't interested in selling to individuals. so how do u get references, customers and clients if u don't sell to individuals? From ur write up innoson is scared of what customers would say if there are defects in d vehicles. last I checked,thats what is called feedback.if u scared of feedback then how do u improve ur product and that is what social media helps u achieve.many global brands from samsung to volkswagen to toyota, have recalled their products but that hasn't killed their biz.it shows that they are customer centric. So for me, d excuses u gave are defeatist. if that is d thinking in innoson, then most of us would b disappointed cos we are eager to c innoson compete with bigger brands.it can't do that with d kind of mindset that u say operates in innoson 12 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by Lordsocrates: 11:34pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
ChiefSweetus: You said "ASK ANY BODY"... By the way I stay in Aks, all ATTC busses are Jinbee... and then these this small mini busses that are trending now, cost 1.3mill, no single public transport here uses innoson... not even one.. I only see them, when I wake up early to see the trucks that dispose of our wastes 4 Likes |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by myplaydiary: 11:35pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
tdayof:You are not seeing the clear picture here, we are talking about an indigenous company that can barely raise forex against multinationals, i hope you notice how federal government started to favour nissan the moment they indicated interest to setup shop in Nigeria and did you see how they got all the patronages when they came on stream while innoson looked on, like i said i only tried to keep the post short, i could keep going, but i needed nairalanders to read before commenting It's just like saying Big Cola going against coca cola. No chance bruv. |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by malaki39: 11:37pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
myplaydiary: I'm sorry, it wasn't intentional. Do have a sound sleep please. Good night |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by Sanchez01: 11:39pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
lexy2014:You just killed it and projected my thoughts better than I did! I don't understand how a brand isn't interested in market share just because they are Indigenous. They wouldn't enjoy feedback because apparently there response to issues could do more damage than what is on ground. The moment a Nigerian companies starts raking in hundreds of millions of Naira, and or, hundreds of thousands of Naira, they throw caution to the wind, not minding the integrity they struggled to build. 4 Likes |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by myplaydiary: 11:40pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
dhantey324:Thanks bruv, the only reason i replied him in that tone was because he tried to ridicule me and my post, without being intelligent about it. He could have just countered my post intelligently and it would have been a beautiful discuss where everyone will be educated and informed. Thanks again. 1 Like |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by lexy2014: 11:43pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
Sanchez01:tnx bro 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by wristbangle: 11:51pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
Sanchez01: Concrete words my brother. Well said 4 Likes |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by ChiefSweetus: 11:57pm On Mar 01, 2017 |
EazyMoh:You are mad! You lucky say i no quote 80% for you. abeg lets move on from this contentious 30%, i never chop bro. |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by ChiefSweetus: 12:00am On Mar 02, 2017 |
Lordsocrates:Oya take the NL world cup and just leave me aristotle fawehinmi of our time. Abeg i never bath since wednesday, allow me be great. |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by Walphem(m): 12:07am On Mar 02, 2017 |
The thread your responded to as been vague was absolutely more in depth than yours. He gave facts, while you argued on emotions. As RIM where are they today? Also where is NOKIA today? If you don't take the right steps at the right time, one will just be part of evolution. Innosson can not thrive with its current business model. 5 Likes |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by myplaydiary: 12:12am On Mar 02, 2017 |
wristbangle: Like you rightly stated Innocent Chukwuma is privy to drive any car of his choice, he must not always be seen riding in an innoson vehicle all the time. i don't know about toyota but other motor coys allow their worker ride cars of their choice, i can provide links to prove that. About criticism, the op in the first thread, did no researched he just simply re-echoed what have always been said here on nairaland about innoson without any proper research or findings. he even compared an indeginious company barely 12 years that cant raise forex with multinationals and car manufacturers that have been making cars for over 100 years, what do you call that. Ordinarily looking at this thread and the previous ones, going through the comment will see another reason why the brand is not selling in Nigeria, i dint want to include that so as not to tribalize this thread, but hey the tribalist are here already. 1 Like |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by DaPuncline: 12:13am On Mar 02, 2017 |
AwiLand:Your case is pathetic. 1 Like |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by DaPuncline: 12:16am On Mar 02, 2017 |
Marotzke:Must you call him a nitwit for sharing his opinion ? 1 Like |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by hugoboss70(m): 12:27am On Mar 02, 2017 |
I took my time to carefully read both write ups and agree with certain points of both writers. I wish to point out some reasons why I tend to agree more with the rebuttal. In doing a major brand marketing and expansion of showrooms across the country the cost to innoson would run into billions of naira. Money which I don't think any indeginious manufacturer can afford to part with bearing in mind the risk involved in such a venture. Spending such huge amount of money could kill the biznes totally. Also imagine a scenerio where innoson actually borrows from a bank to do this all a foriegn manufacturer needs do to kill innoson would be to crash the price of there cars bearing in mind that they have access to cheaper electricity and government grants to protect there bizness. No one will buy a well marketed innoson suv for 8million when a Toyota suv could go for 7million. And with billions of naira spent on marketing and expanion innoson would definetly go under sooner or later. When dis happen the foreign manufacturer then steps in and buys over innoson. As much as we would all love to see innoson everywhere at once it makes more bizness sense to start small and gradually buy the hearts of the populace rather than involve in a popularity contest with a known maker. I believe he Is moving in the right direction in trying to get all levels of government and military to solely use his product then establish a fallback or backbone for his bizness before gradually entering the market. My personal opinion I may be wrong but it's just my own 2cents. Ps both ops mean well so I really don't see a need for bants being thrown or insults. NIGERIA WILL BE GREAT SOON 2 Likes |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by myplaydiary: 12:57am On Mar 02, 2017 |
lexy2014:who says innoson is not active on social media the issue to be discussed is if he is doing enough on social media, and if it is established to a logical end that he is not doing enough, reason should be determined before judgement or castigation, non of which was established in the previous post. Also is its only social media, that you interact with clients do you know for one if he has or uses other channels, do you know if he sends newsletters because i for one know he once had a partnership with a bank to promote and market the cars at subsidised rates, why didnt first OP give him credit for that. Mr., is it only social media that you get information of what is happening in your enviroment, i dont want to believe you are trolling or just being sentimental. Answer to your Questions: Is the local bottle water made in your area competing with Eva water made by coca cola? but they sell? don't they? Going by their current production capacity innoson is over strectched, so yes it is safe to say innoson is in high demand in Nigeria, by their own standards. Like i said at the moment innoson is in no competition with any "multinational" coy so why call toyota, when the time is right innoson will compete favorably. Individuals are not necessarily the "references, customers and clients" i was referring too, infact i was not referring to individual at all, i cleary mentioned, Federal and state government also add Agencies, Parastatals, Corporate organizations, NGO's and Churches, if Innoson gets this right, like i said the sales becomes organic as trust and confidence will be establish in the car brand, and sales will come in via referral and word of mouth publicity. Mr., That is for sincere and honest feedback, what you read on this thread by those who have never seen an innoson, but will still be the first to tell you that the tires will fall off or the car would burst into flames, are those honest feedbacks? or do you think these same people wont go and troll the innoson pages. See i was not being sentimental in my post and i was not trying to bash the op of the first thread i was simply trying to let him see through the lines but his ego let him take it personal. If after reading my post and reading this comment and you still maintain thesame stand then you are not being sincere and i just wasted my time responding to you questions. |
Re: RE: Why Nigerians Are Not Buying Innoson Cars (Misleading Post By AutoReportNG) by myplaydiary: 1:01am On Mar 02, 2017 |
malaki39:Thanks i really do appreciate your sincerity, good night. |
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