[Quran 24:2] The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.

There is no mercy or pity for adulterers and.adulteresses as far as Allah is concerned. In fact, there is no forgiveness even after repentance if Muhammad's example is anything to go by:


Sahil Muslim Book 017, Number 4207:

Imran b. Husain reported that a woman from Juhaina came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and she had become pregnant because of adultery. She said: Allah's Apostle, I have done something for which (prescribed punishment) must be imposed upon me, so impose that. Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) called her master and said: Treat her well, and when she delivers bring her to me. He did accordingly. Then Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) pronounced judgment about her and her clothes were tied around her and then he commanded and she was stoned to death. He then prayed over her (dead body). Thereupon Umar said to him: Allah's Apostle, you offer prayer for her, whereas she had committed adultery! Thereupon he said: She has made such a repentance that if it were to be divided among seventy men of Medina, it would be enough. Have you found any repentance better than this that she sacr ficed her life for Allah, the Majestic?

The woman's. repentance was not enough for her to be forgiven. She still had to sacrifice her life. What a pity. This implies that muslims who commit adultery but not caught and killed will definitely go to hellfire as there is no forgiveness even if they repent.

Unfortunately, it is Allah himself who causes muslims to committ adultery, why should he still punish them for it?

Abu Aahuraira reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying: Verily Allah has fixed the
very portion of adultery which a man will indulge in and which he of necessity must commit. The adultery
of the eye is the lustful look and the adultery of the tongue is the licentious speech, the heart desire
and yearns, which the parts may or may not put into effect (Sahih Muslim, Book 033, Number 6421 & 6422)

Is Allah a just god?

truthmans2012:
[Quran 24:2] The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.

There is no mercy or pity for adulterers and.adulteresses as far as Allah is concerned. In fact, there is no forgiveness even after repentance if Muhammad's example is anything to go by:


Sahil Muslim Book 017, Number 4207:

Imran b. Husain reported that a woman from Juhaina came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and she had become pregnant because of adultery. She said: Allah's Apostle, I have done something for which (prescribed punishment) must be imposed upon me, so impose that. Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) called her master and said: Treat her well, and when she delivers bring her to me. He did accordingly. Then Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) pronounced judgment about her and her clothes were tied around her and then he commanded and she was stoned to death. He then prayed over her (dead body). Thereupon Umar said to him: Allah's Apostle, you offer prayer for her, whereas she had committed adultery! Thereupon he said: She has made such a repentance that if it were to be divided among seventy men of Medina, it would be enough. Have you found any repentance better than this that she sacr ficed her life for Allah, the Majestic?

The woman's. repentance was not enough for her to be forgiven. She still had to sacrifice her life. What a pity. This implies that muslims who commit adultery but not caught and killed will definitely go to hellfire as there is no forgiveness even if they repent.

Unfortunately, it is Allah himself who causes muslims to committ adultery, why should he still punish them for it?

Abu Aahuraira reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying: Verily Allah has fixed the
very portion of adultery which a man will indulge in and which he of necessity must commit. The adultery
of the eye is the lustful look and the adultery of the tongue is the licentious speech, the heart desire
and yearns, which the parts may or may not put into effect (Sahih Muslim, Book 033, Number 6421 & 6422)

Is Allah a just god?

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Alhamdulillah, YES ALLAH IS A JUST GOD!

Rashduct4luv:

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Alhamdulillah, YES ALLAH IS A JUST GOD!

How does that answer the questions asked by the OP?

Why do muslims kill a repented adulterer/adultereres, doesn't Allah forgive sin of adultery, especially after repentance?

Why would Allah cause Muslims to commit adultery and still kill them for it?

truthwins:


How does that answer the questions asked by the OP?

Why do muslims kill a repented adulterer/adultereres, doesn't Allah forgive sin of adultery, especially after repentance?

Why would Allah cause Muslims to commit adultery and still kill them for it?

The answer is evident already! That is the best form of repentance for adultery. The Punishment highlights the heaviness of adultery in the society! All sins can be be forgiven with sincere repentance and never going back to that sin. Allah would never ask for account from someone who was stoned for the sin of adultery on on the day of Resurrection when we all give account of our deeds.

Mind you, in an Islamic country, the rule is to stone adulterers and flog fornicators in front of witnesses as in all the text quoted. And in a non-Islamic country, we can only repent by feeling guilty and turning away from that sin.

Assuming you were the man who raised 4 kids with a woman till they were adults only to be discovered (by DNA test) that none of the kids was his when they were about to travel out. Allah is a Just God!

Rashduct4luv

The answer is evident already! That is the best form of repentance for adultery. The Punishment highlights the heaviness of adultery in the society! All sins can be be forgiven with sincere repentance and never going back to that sin. Allah would never ask for account from someone who was stoned for the sin of adultery on on the day of Resurrection when we all give account of our deeds.

You mean death is a form of repentance?

No, no , no !!!

When you repent of a sin, the true God is ready to forgive. You don't repent and still get punished.

Again, you failed to comment on Allah being the force behind Muslims committing adultery and still kill them for it.

truthwins:


You mean death is a form of repentance?

No, no , no !!!

When you repent of a sin, the true God is ready to forgive. You don't repent and still get punished.

Again, you failed to comment on Allah being the force behind Muslims committing adultery and still kill them for it.

Lets assume a man killed another man intentionally without any reason. It makes sense if this man is killed in Islamic law for his crime . Why must he be killed since he can be forgiven and released to live peacefully. No, the law says he should be killed he killed a man. So adultery is similar to 'killing someone elses' bed. Can u forgive your wife if you caught her in bed with another man? This is serious in Islam! Some sins are with capital punishment in Islam.

Your second answer

Allah created everything so he also indirectly created everything His creations create but He is not necessarily responsible for it. You were created but you do evil, can your evil be ascribed to God?
Allah knows all that will happen even before the earth was created and till it dies.

Rashduct4luv


Lets assume a man killed another man intentionally without any reason. It makes sense if this man is killed in Islamic law for his crime . Why must he be killed since he can be forgiven and released to live peacefully. No, the law says he should be killed he killed a man. So adultery is similar to 'killing someone elses' bed. Can u forgive your wife if you caught her in bed with another man? This is serious in Islam! Some sins are with capital punishment in Islam.

So in islam, if a man or woman commits adultery, he/she has committed an unforgivable sin and must be killed.

What about those muslims who committed the same sin of adultery but not caught? What happens to them if they repent?

Allah created everything so he also indirectly created everything His creations create but He is not necessarily responsible for it. You were created but you do evil, can your evil be ascribed to God?
Allah knows all that will happen even before the earth was created and till it dies.

Muhammad said Allah is responsible for muslims committing adultery in the quoted hadith.

Read the cited hadith with understanding. It says "Verily Allah has fixed the
very portion of adultery which a man will indulge in and which he of necessity must commit".

The meaning: It is Allah that fixes the number of adultery a muslim will commit, which he must of necessity (whether he likes it or not) commit. This shows all muslims MUST commit adultery if Allah's word is real and believable. If this is the case, why should he punish any muslims who fulfill his word or desire by committing adultery?

I hope you do understand English quite well.

Next !!!

truthwins:
Next !!!

you looking for trouble, isnt?

truthwins:



So in islam, if a man or woman commits adultery, he/she has committed an unforgivable sin and must be killed.

What about those muslims who committed the same sin of adultery but not caught? What happens to them if they repent?




Muhammad said Allah is responsible for muslims committing adultery in the quoted hadith.

Read the cited hadith with understanding. It says "Verily Allah has fixed the
very portion of adultery which a man will indulge in and which he of necessity must commit".

The meaning: It is Allah that fixes the number of adultery a muslim will commit, which he must of necessity (whether he likes it or not) commit. This shows all muslims MUST commit adultery if Allah's word is real and believable. If this is the case, why should he punish any muslims who fulfill his word or desire by committing adultery?

I hope you do understand English quite well.

If you are forgiven for a sin you may still be questioned for that sin on judgement day! Those who committs such sins and repents, their case is with Allah. He forgives whoever he wills and punishes whoever he wills.
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The meaning is as you said it but less literally. Everything that is to happen on earth has already been written in a book with Allah since Allah has absolute knowledge of everything! 50,000 years before Allah created this earth, he has written everything that is to happen.

Rashduct4luv:

The answer is evident already! That is the best form of repentance for adultery. The Punishment highlights the heaviness of adultery in the society! All sins can be be forgiven with sincere repentance and never going back to that sin. Allah would never ask for account from someone who was stoned for the sin of adultery on on the day of Resurrection when we all give account of our deeds.

This is weird.

Mind you, in an Islamic country, the rule is to stone adulterers and flog fornicators

But the verse is clear:

Surah An-Noor, Verse 2:
الزَّانِيَةُ وَالزَّانِي فَاجْلِدُوا كُلَّ وَاحِدٍ مِّنْهُمَا مِائَةَ جَلْدَةٍ وَلَا تَأْخُذْكُم بِهِمَا رَأْفَةٌ فِي دِينِ اللَّهِ إِن كُنتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ وَلْيَشْهَدْ عَذَابَهُمَا طَائِفَةٌ مِّنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ

The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.
(English - Yusuf Ali)

The adulterer and the adulteress, scourge ye each one of them (with) a hundred stripes. And let not pity for the twain withhold you from obedience to Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of believers witness their punishment.
(English - Pickthal)


AS FOR the adulteress and the adulterer flog each of them with a hundred stripes, and let not compassion with them keep you from [carrying out] this law of God, if you [truly] believe in God and the Last Day; and let a group of the believers witness their chastisement.
(English - Mohd Asad)

How come the rule in an Islamic state is to stone to death and not flog each of them 100 lashes as ordained by the Quran? Do we say the hadith narration abrogated the order in the Quran?

in front of witnesses as in all the text quoted. And in a non-Islamic country, we can only repent by feeling guilty and turning away from that sin.

How come stoning them to death is not to be carried out in a non Muslim society? Isn't it the best judgement to carry out as according to you?

Assuming you were the man who raised 4 kids with a woman till they were adults only to be discovered (by DNA test) that none of the kids was his when they were about to travel out. Allah is a Just God!

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Rilwayne001:


This is weird.



But the verse is clear:

Surah An-Noor, Verse 2:
الزَّانِيَةُ وَالزَّانِي فَاجْلِدُوا كُلَّ وَاحِدٍ مِّنْهُمَا مِائَةَ جَلْدَةٍ وَلَا تَأْخُذْكُم بِهِمَا رَأْفَةٌ فِي دِينِ اللَّهِ إِن كُنتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ وَلْيَشْهَدْ عَذَابَهُمَا طَائِفَةٌ مِّنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ

The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.
(English - Yusuf Ali)

The adulterer and the adulteress, scourge ye each one of them (with) a hundred stripes. And let not pity for the twain withhold you from obedience to Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of believers witness their punishment.
(English - Pickthal)


AS FOR the adulteress and the adulterer flog each of them with a hundred stripes, and let not compassion with them keep you from [carrying out] this law of God, if you [truly] believe in God and the Last Day; and let a group of the believers witness their chastisement.
(English - Mohd Asad)

How come the rule in an Islamic state is to stone to death and not flog each of them 100 lashes as ordained by the Quran? Do we say the hadith narration abrogated the order in the Quran?







How come stoning them to death is not to be carried out in a non Muslim society? Isn't it the best judgement to carry out as according to you?



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In time of our Prophet, the Islamic country was established so the Islamic Sharee'ah was used. Sharee'ah law is used in Saudi Arabia today. Nigeria is not a Muslim country so we can used this rule.

And mind you, when you translate the Qur'an, we translate the Qur'an according to the Prophet's tradition.

For Example, we are told to Pray, fast, pay Zakat and perform hajj in the Qur'an but a layman reading only the translation of the Qur'an will never grasp how to perform these important Islamic duty. By careful study of the Prophet's tradition i.e. Authentic Hadiths; one would find all this in details.

The Punishment stated above was for unmarried fornicators. While the Punishment is to stone married fornicators or adulteresses according to the Prophet's tradition. The hadiths explains the Qur'an verse.


I was using Yusuf Ali translation before till i found a better translation by Dr. Mohsin Khan. This translation interpretes Qur'an according to Tafsirs & the Prophet's traditions.

MUHSIN KHAN NOOR vs 2
The woman and the man guilty of illegal sexual intercourse, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not pity withhold you in their case, in a punishment prescribed by Allah, if you believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of the believers witness their punishment. (This punishment is for unmarried persons guilty of the above crime but if married persons commit it, the punishment is to stone them to death, according to Allah's Law).

Rashduct4luv:

And mind you, when you translate the Qur'an, we translate the Qur'an according to the Prophet's tradition.

perhaps you might want to remind him of imam Al-barbaharee(died around the 11th century) words that;

الإسلام هو السنة، والسنة هي الإسلام، ولا يقوم أحدهما إلا بالآخر

"Islaam is the prophetic tradition and the prophetic tradition is islaam, and both can't be stable except (if they are) with each other"


No matter who you are, even if you are a professor of Arabic language, you cant understand islaam except with the sunnah(prophetic tradition), you can't understand the Qur'an.

The prophet was raised to explain the Qur'an, we ask, where have you kept this explanation? it baffles me when some individuals interpret an aayah of the Quran without knowing how it was interpreted by the same prophet they claim to follow, the one given the right explanation to each aayah which he eventually gave to us....

Rashduct4luv:


[b]If you are forgiven for a sin you may still be questioned for that sin on judgement day! [/b]Those who committs such sins and repents, their case is with Allah. He forgives whoever he wills and punishes whoever he wills.
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The meaning is as you said it but less literally. Everything that is to happen on earth has already been written in a book with Allah since Allah has absolute knowledge of everything! 50,000 years before Allah created this earth, he has written everything that is to happen.

When a sin is forgiven by God because the sinner repents, he/she has no question to answer anymore anywhere on that particular sin.

When a sinner repents and forgiven, he doesn't go through any form of punishment anymore anywhere.

It therefore remains a surprise why Muhammad should kill anyone who have repented and reported to him of his/her sin without being caught.

When a woman was caught in the act and brought to Jesus, he forgave her and was let go unpunished. The true God does not punish a repented sinner, which God did Muhammad represent? A god that kill a sinner after repentance cannot be the true God. It is the call of the true God for every sinner to repent and be saved.

Rilwayne001:


This is weird.



But the verse is clear:

Surah An-Noor, Verse 2:
الزَّانِيَةُ وَالزَّانِي فَاجْلِدُوا كُلَّ وَاحِدٍ مِّنْهُمَا مِائَةَ جَلْدَةٍ وَلَا تَأْخُذْكُم بِهِمَا رَأْفَةٌ فِي دِينِ اللَّهِ إِن كُنتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ وَلْيَشْهَدْ عَذَابَهُمَا طَائِفَةٌ مِّنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ

The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.
(English - Yusuf Ali)

The adulterer and the adulteress, scourge ye each one of them (with) a hundred stripes. And let not pity for the twain withhold you from obedience to Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of believers witness their punishment.
(English - Pickthal)


AS FOR the adulteress and the adulterer flog each of them with a hundred stripes, and let not compassion with them keep you from [carrying out] this law of God, if you [truly] believe in God and the Last Day; and let a group of the believers witness their chastisement.
(English - Mohd Asad)

How come the rule in an Islamic state is to stone to death and not flog each of them 100 lashes as ordained by the Quran? Do we say the hadith narration abrogated the order in the Quran?





How come stoning them to death is not to be carried out in a non Muslim society? Isn't it the best judgement to carry out as according to you?



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It is clear bro!
The Qur'an is a Book that was revealed from Allah to His Messenger and also practised by the Prophet Muhammad Salallahu alayhi wa salam. The Hadith and Qur'an go hand in Hand. For example, times of all prayers, period of fasting and its duration, zakah, Hajj, etc are all explained in Details in the tradition of the Prophet.

The translation that i think uses the traditions of the Prophet to translate Qur'an is Dr. Mohsin Khan Noble Qur'an.

Here is Surat An-Noor Vs 2
MUHSIN KHAN
The woman and the man guilty of illegal sexual intercourse, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not pity withhold you in their case, in a punishment prescribed by Allah, if you believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of the believers witness their punishment. (This punishment is for unmarried persons guilty of the above crime but if married persons commit it, the punishment is to stone them to death, according to Allah's Law).


Secondly, Nigeria is not an Islamic Country. Sharee'ah can not be used here but can only be used in a country using Qur'an and Sunnah as their yardstick for judgement.

truthwins:


When a sin is forgiven by God because the sinner repents, he/she has no question to answer anymore anywhere on that particular sin.

When a sinner repents and forgiven, he doesn't go through any form of punishment anymore anywhere.

It therefore remains a surprise why Muhammad should kill anyone who have repented and reported to him of his/her sin without being caught.

When a woman was caught in the act and brought to Jesus, he forgave her and was let go unpunished. The true God does not punish a repented sinner, which God did Muhammad represent? A god that kill a sinner after repentance cannot be the true God. It is the call of the true God for every sinner to repent and be saved.

If you want to judge with Jesus's law, how will you judge someone who slept your wife or sister? You tell him to do it again right? Since Jesus preached turning the left cheek for someone who slapped u on the right cheek! Or You can just forgive him as you said! As far as i know, Jesus brought no law in the Bible. How do u judge murder, fornicators, adulterers, thieves, homosexuals, etc. No judgement from Christianity. But Islam has.

Rashduct4luv:



If you want to judge with Jesus's law, how will you judge someone who slept your wife or sister? You tell him to do it again right? Since Jesus preached turning the left cheek for someone who slapped u on the right cheek! Or You can just forgive him as you said! As far as i know, Jesus brought no law in the Bible. How do u judge murder, fornicators, adulterers, thieves, homosexuals, etc. No judgement from Christianity. But Islam has.

The Quran testifies to the Law of Moses as the Law of God. Why does islam have laws different from that ones given to Moses? Is islamic laws not from the God of Moses?

truthwins:


The Quran testifies to the Law of Moses as the Law of God. Why does islam have laws different from that ones given to Moses? Is islamic laws not from the God of Moses?

Simple Question that needs a simple answer!

Moses was sent to the Israelites so his message was for them. All Prophets were sent to a particular people except the final Prophet who was sent to all Mankind and Jinns! Each messenger with his own Book. (Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus and Muhammad (Peace be on them all) were given different Book for different people and different times.

Qur'an 5 vs 44

Verily, We did send down the Taurat (Torah) [to Musa (Moses)], therein was guidance and light, by which the Prophets, who submitted themselves to Allah's Will, judged the Jews. And the rabbis and the priests [too judged the Jews by the Taurat (Torah) after those Prophets] for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's Book, and they were witnesses thereto.

Rashduct4luv:


Simple Question that needs a simple answer!

Moses was sent to the Israelites so his message was for them. All Prophets were sent to a particular people except the final Prophet who was sent to all Mankind and Jinns! Each messenger with his own Book. (Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus and Muhammad (Peace be on them all) were given different Book for different people and different times.

Qur'an 5 vs 44

Verily, We did send down the Taurat (Torah) [to Musa (Moses)], therein was guidance and light, by which the Prophets, who submitted themselves to Allah's Will, judged the Jews. And the rabbis and the priests [too judged the Jews by the Taurat (Torah) after those Prophets] for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's Book, and they were witnesses thereto.

But the Quran says Jesus was sent to all peoples, why would Muhammad be sent to all peoples too with messsages different from that of Jesus?

[Quran 21:91] And (remember) her who guarded her chastity: We breathed into her of Our spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for all peoples

Since Jesus was sent to all peoples (all nations), what is the need for Muhammad coming with messages inconsistent with the ones before him?

truthwins:


But the Quran says Jesus was sent to all peoples, why would Muhammad be sent to all peoples too with messsages different from that of Jesus?

[Quran 21:91] And (remember) her who guarded her chastity: We breathed into her of Our spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for all peoples

Since Jesus was sent to all peoples (all nations), what is the need for Muhammad coming with messages inconsistent with the ones before him?

Truthwins talk true na!

The verse you Quoted is this!

And (remember) she who guarded her chastity [Virgin Maryam (Mary)], We breathed into (the sleeves of) her (shirt or garment) [through Our Ruh - Jibrael (Gabriel)], and We made her and her son ['Iesa (Jesus)] a sign for Al-'Alamin (the mankind and jinns).

simply put Jesus being born without father was a sign for Mankind and Jinns. This doesn't mean he was sent to them.

Rashduct4luv:



Truthwins talk true na!

The verse you Quoted is this!

And (remember) she who guarded her chastity [Virgin Maryam (Mary)], We breathed into (the sleeves of) her (shirt or garment) [through Our Ruh - Jibrael (Gabriel)], and We made her and her son ['Iesa (Jesus)] a sign for Al-'Alamin (the mankind and jinns).

simply put Jesus being born without father was a sign for Mankind and Jinns.This doesn't mean he was sent to them.

What concerns all mankind and jinns about Jesus being a.sign if he wasn't sent to them?

truthwins:
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What concerns all mankind and jinns about Jesus being a.sign if he wasn't sent to them?

A miracle from Allah is a sign for all...

Moses splitting the red sea.

Jesus born with no father.

Adam created from earth no father or mother.

Jonah was vomited by a fish.

Signs for all...

Rashduct4luv:


A miracle from Allah is a sign for all...

Moses splitting the red sea.

Jesus born with no father.

Adam created from earth no father or mother.

Jonah was vomited by a fish.

Signs for all...

Where is it said that Moses, Adam Jonah are a sign for all mankind and jinns as said about Jesus? Talk scripturally and not bring your own idea.

truthwins:


Where is it said that Moses, Adam Jonah are a sign for all as said about Jesus? Talk scripturally and not bring your own idea.

Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 59:

Verily, the likeness of 'Iesa (Jesus) before Allah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: "Be!" - and he was.

Like Jesus was a sign Adam was a sign! Jesus had only mother while Adam has no father or mother!

All miracles are signs from Allah

With respect to little back n forth about hudud for zina, it was something we already discussed extensively before. I don't want to derail this thread. While i understand hadith is necessary to understand quran, quran itself interpret itself to large extent. And there is no way hadith, no matter of authentic it is, can never ever abrogate any ayah of Quran. Hadith maybe fractured.

But this case of zina is controversial. It is not a simple as you and abdulkabir presented. As i argued before, i could have agreed with rajm as the punishment (which in fact what i believed before and many muslims too). But now, more scrutiny shows otherwise. Reason i reject the narration is obvious and glaring and very dangerous too. I have concluded that rajm was hudud of Allah ordained in the previous Law (like Tawra and Injil). But upon establishment of islamic shari'a, it was abrogated. But before then, it was applied by the prophet(SA).

This will continue to be open debate actually. Also, i can understand the intent of rajm was not really to apply it but to serve as deterrent which is understandable.

Rashduct4luv:



Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 59:

Verily, the likeness of 'Iesa (Jesus) before Allah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: "Be!" - and he was.

Like Jesus was a sign Adam was a sign! Jesus had only mother while Adam has no father or mother!

All miracles are signs from Allah

Jesus, according to the quran is God's word that became a baby in Mary's womb. Now, how was Jesus created from dust like Adam?

Adam was molded from clay (dust) but Jesus wasn't.

truthwins:


Jesus, according to the quran is God's word that became a baby in Mary's womb. Now, how was Jesus created from dust like Adam?

Adam was molded from clay (dust) but Jesus wasn't.

How do think Adam was created? Moulded clay cant become man without​ "the word".

Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 59:

Verily, the likeness of 'Iesa (Jesus) before Allah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: "Be!" - and he was.


And Jesus too came into existence with the same word "be"- and he was.

Rashduct4luv:


How do think Adam was created? Moulded clay cant become man without​ "the word".

Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 59:

Verily, the likeness of 'Iesa (Jesus) before Allah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: "Be!" - and he was.


And Jesus too came into existence with the same word "be"- and he was.

Jesus wasn't molded with clay. He was just the word but Adam was molded with clay. Isn't.that true?

One was molded with clay and the other wasn't, how are they the same?

@Rashduct4luv

Back to the OP, If a Muslim commits adultery but not caught, what will happen to him if he repents later? I have not got you clearly on this point.

truthwins:


Jesus wasn't molded with clay. He was just the word but Adam was molded with clay. Isn't.that true?

One was molded with clay and the other wasn't, how are they the same?

Clay without word is zero! The word is the major substance!

You are just playing to the gallery!

Adam was created from Clay, no father and mother.
Eve was made from Adam, no mother but has father.
Jesus had a mother with no father.
And others had both father and mother.

The word is present in everyone to function!

Rashduct4luv:



Clay without word is zero! The word is the major substance!

You are just playing to the gallery!

Adam was created from Clay, no father and mother.
Eve was made from Adam, no mother but has father.
Jesus had a mother with no father.
And others had both father and mother.

The word is present in everyone to function!

The issue of having father or not is not the point here. The truth remains that Jesus was not made from clay as the quran asserted. That is a minus for the quran.

Tell me from the quran where Eve was made from Adam.

truthwins:
@Rashduct4luv

Back to the OP, If a Muslim commits adultery but not caught, what will happen to him if he repents later? I have not got you clearly on this point.

He will be forgiven! But stoning is the prescribed form of punishment according to Islamic law!