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| Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(m): 12:59pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
[b][/b]Neanderthals (the ‘th’ pronounced as ‘t’) are our closest extinct human relative. Some defining features of their skulls include the large middle part of the face, angled cheek bones, and a huge nose for humidifying and warming cold, dry air. Their bodies were shorter and stockier than ours, another adaptation to living in cold environments. But their brains were just as large as ours and often larger - proportional to their brawnier bodies. Neanderthals made and used a diverse set of sophisticated tools, controlled fire, lived in shelters, made and wore clothing, were skilled hunters of large animals and also ate plant foods, and occasionally made symbolic or ornamental objects. There is evidence that Neanderthals deliberately buried their dead and occasionally even marked their graves with offerings, such as flowers. No other primates, and no earlier human species, had ever practiced this sophisticated and symbolic behavior. DNA has been recovered from more than a dozen Neanderthal fossils, all from Europe; the Neanderthal Genome Project is one of the exciting new areas of human origins research. DNA has been recovered from more than a dozen Neanderthal fossils, all from Europe; the Neanderthal Genome Project is one of the exciting new areas of human origins research. Year of Discovery: 1829 History of Discovery: Neanderthal 1 was the first specimen to be recognized as an early human fossil. When it was discovered in 1856 in Germany, scientists had never seen a specimen like it: the oval shaped skull with a low, receding forehead and distinct browridges, the thick, strong bones. In 1864, it became the first fossil hominin species to be named. Geologist William King suggested the name Homo neanderthalensis (Johanson and Edgar, 2006), after these fossils found in the Feldhofer Cave of the Neander Valley in Germany ( tal —a modern form of thal —means “valley” in German). Several years after Neanderthal 1 was discovered, scientists realized that prior fossil discoveries—in 1829 at Engis, Belgium, and in 1848 at Forbes Quarry, Gibraltar—were also Neanderthals. Even though they weren’t recognized at the time, these two earlier discoveries were actually the first early human fossils ever found. We don’t know everything about our early ancestors. But scientists are constantly in the field and the laboratory, excavating new areas and conducting analyses with groundbreaking technology, continually filling in some of the gaps about our understanding of human evolution. Neanderthals (the ‘th’ pronounced as ‘t’) are our closest extinct human relative. Some defining features of their skulls include the large middle part of the face, angled cheek bones, and a huge nose for humidifying and warming cold, dry air. Their bodies were shorter and stockier than ours, another adaptation to living in cold environments. But their brains were just as large as ours and often larger - proportional to their brawnier bodies. Neanderthals made and used a diverse set of sophisticated tools, controlled fire, lived in shelters, made and wore clothing, were skilled hunters of large animals and also ate plant foods, and occasionally made symbolic or ornamental objects. There is evidence that Neanderthals deliberately buried their dead and occasionally even marked their graves with offerings, such as flowers. No other primates, and no earlier human species, had ever practiced this sophisticated and symbolic behavior. DNA has been recovered from more than a dozen Neanderthal fossils, all from Europe; the Neanderthal Genome Project is one of the exciting new areas of human origins research. DNA has been recovered from more than a dozen Neanderthal fossils, all from Europe; the Neanderthal Genome Project is one of the exciting new areas of human origins research. Year of Discovery: 1829 History of Discovery: Neanderthal 1 was the first specimen to be recognized as an early human fossil. When it was discovered in 1856 in Germany, scientists had never seen a specimen like it: the oval shaped skull with a low, receding forehead and distinct browridges, the thick, strong bones. In 1864, it became the first fossil hominin species to be named. Geologist William King suggested the name Homo neanderthalensis (Johanson and Edgar, 2006), after these fossils found in the Feldhofer Cave of the Neander Valley in Germany ( tal —a modern form of thal —means “valley” in German). Several years after Neanderthal 1 was discovered, scientists realized that prior fossil discoveries—in 1829 at Engis, Belgium, and in 1848 at Forbes Quarry, Gibraltar—were also Neanderthals. Even though they weren’t recognized at the time, these two earlier discoveries were actually the first early human fossils ever found. We don’t know everything about our early ancestors. But scientists are constantly in the field and the laboratory, excavating new areas and conducting analyses with groundbreaking technology, continually filling in some of the gaps about our understanding of human evolution. Neanderthals (the ‘th’ pronounced as ‘t’) are our closest extinct human relative. Some defining features of their skulls include the large middle part of the face, angled cheek bones, and a huge nose for humidifying and warming cold, dry air. Their bodies were shorter and stockier than ours, another adaptation to living in cold environments. But their brains were just as large as ours and often larger - proportional to their brawnier bodies. Neanderthals made and used a diverse set of sophisticated tools, controlled fire, lived in shelters, made and wore clothing, were skilled hunters of large animals and also ate plant foods, and occasionally made symbolic or ornamental objects. There is evidence that Neanderthals deliberately buried their dead and occasionally even marked their graves with offerings, such as flowers. No other primates, and no earlier human species, had ever practiced this sophisticated and symbolic behavior. DNA has been recovered from more than a dozen Neanderthal fossils, all from Europe; the Neanderthal Genome Project is one of the exciting new areas of human origins research. DNA has been recovered from more than a dozen Neanderthal fossils, all from Europe; the Neanderthal Genome Project is one of the exciting new areas of human origins research. Year of Discovery: 1829 History of Discovery: Neanderthal 1 was the first specimen to be recognized as an early human fossil. When it was discovered in 1856 in Germany, scientists had never seen a specimen like it: the oval shaped skull with a low, receding forehead and distinct browridges, the thick, strong bones. In 1864, it became the first fossil hominin species to be named. Geologist William King suggested the name Homo neanderthalensis (Johanson and Edgar, 2006), after these fossils found in the Feldhofer Cave of the Neander Valley in Germany ( tal —a modern form of thal —means “valley” in German). Several years after Neanderthal 1 was discovered, scientists realized that prior fossil discoveries—in 1829 at Engis, Belgium, and in 1848 at Forbes Quarry, Gibraltar—were also Neanderthals. Even though they weren’t recognized at the time, these two earlier discoveries were actually the first early human fossils ever found. We don’t know everything about our early ancestors. But scientists are constantly in the field and the laboratory, excavating new areas and conducting analyses with groundbreaking technology, continually filling in some of the gaps about our understanding of human evolution. courtesy:humanorigins.si.edu NEANDERTHAL'S LEGACY Genetic analysis has revealed that mutations built up in Neanderthal DNA over time, due to inbreeding. The accumulation of genetic errors meant their ability to have children was reduced by up to 40 per cent. Interbreeding with humans passwed on some of the genes, with some people today still carrying a small proportion of the mutations This may reduce reproductive fitness of non-African people today by 1 per cent. Indigenous sub-Saharan Africans have been found to have no Neanderthal DNA, as their ancestors did not follow the same migration route. courtesy:www.dailymail.co.uk YORUBA'S LINK TO EURASIA VIA DNA There’s one more twist to the tale. In a research team – including Reich – published the first draft genome of a Neanderthal . Comparisons with living humans revealed traces of Neanderthal DNA in all humans with one notable exception: sub-Saharan peoples like the Yoruba and Khoisan. That made sense. After early humans migrated out of Africa around 60,000 years ago, they bumped into Neanderthals somewhere in what is now the Middle East. Some got rather cosy with each other. As their descendants spread across the world to Europe, Asia and eventually the Americas, they spread bits of Neanderthal DNA along with their own genes. But because those descendants did not move back into Africa until historical times, most of this continent remained a Neanderthal DNA-free zone. Or so it seemed at the time. Now it appears that the Back to Africa migration 3000 years ago carried a weak Neanderthal genetic signal deep into the homeland. Indeed one of Reich’s analyses, published last month, found Neanderthal traces in Yoruba DNA courtesy: www.newscientist.com courtesy:humanorigins.si.edu
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| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by naijalander: 1:05pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
So what exactly does this prove? |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(m): 1:08pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
migration theories is true.... |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by YOUNGrapha(m): 1:11pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
naijalander:it proves that we are once cowardice amalastic descendant of heaven to earth oduduwa  NO WONDER WE TOO DEY FEAR......NA SHOUTING WE SABI AS A TRIBE  1 Like |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(m): 1:11pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Proof migration theories is true and are of admixture breed 1 Like |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by naijalander: 1:13pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
lool haters wish. YOUNGrapha: 2 Likes |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by naijalander: 1:16pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
whoever migrated from where and when is certainly not the Yoruba of Oduduwa's era. Enough of this migration theories abeg, Yoruba people came to be the same way the English came to be: Historically, the English population is descended from several peoples — the earlier Britons (or Brythons) and the Germanic tribes that settled in Britain following the withdrawal of the Romans, including Angles, Saxons, Jutes and Frisians. Just replace Yoruba with English, Ife with Briton and Angles, Saxons, Jutes & Frisians with Ijebu, Ondo, Ijesha, Egba, etc and it all starts to make sense. Olu317: 1 Like |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(m): 1:26pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
naijalander:Are you now denying the truth found in the YORUBA DNA ? The things about my people are quite interesting but I stand by evidence. After all, many authors mentioned it my dear brother. |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(m): 1:31pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
BACK TO AFRICA BUT FROM? Twist in tale There’s one more twist to the tale. In 2010 a research team – including Reich – published the first draft genome of a Neanderthal . Comparisons with living humans revealed traces of Neanderthal DNA in all humans with one notable exception: sub-Saharan peoples like the Yoruba and Khoisan. That made sense. After early humans migrated out of Africa around 60,000 years ago, they bumped into Neanderthals somewhere in what is now the Middle East. Some got rather cosy with each other. As their descendants spread across the world to Europe, Asia and eventually the Americas, they spread bits of Neanderthal DNA along with their own genes. But because those descendants did not move back into Africa until historical times, most of this continent remained a Neanderthal DNA-free zone. Or so it seemed at the time. Now it appears that the Back to Africa migration 3000 years ago carried a weak Neanderthal genetic signal deep into the homeland. Indeed one of Reich’s analyses, published last month, found Neanderthal traces in Yoruba DNA ( Nature , DOI: 10.1038/nature12886 ). In other words, not only is western Eurasian DNA ancestry a global phenomenon, so is having a bit of Neanderthal living on inside you. Journal reference: PNAS , DOI: 10.1073/pnas.1313787111 1 Like
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| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by naijalander: 1:56pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
which truth is found in Yoruba DNA, am also a Yoruba guy but I choose to be objective in all my research and research shows that Yoruba people did not migrate from anywhere. Neither did Igbo or Hausas, we have all always been within this region called Nigeria only that at different ages of history, we existed as different people. Yorubas were not always Yorubas, there was Ife before Oduduwa's consolidation of the 13 Ife ruling lineages into what later became Yoruba. The same way eventually Yoruba will become phased out and will exist only in name much like today's Jews. They were once a people who eventually lost all semblance except for the language and culture, same will happen to Igbos and Hausas eventually. As we speak, a new tribe is already being formed, its called Nigeria. Olu317: 3 Likes |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by naijalander: 1:59pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Interesting but only proves that we are one human family. Olu317: |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(m): 4:34pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
naijalander:It is only a foolish man that will disagree with you based on your assertion that all human beings descended from one big BANG or ADAM. But we are all blessed differently. The Neanderthals evolution begun at Middle East. This is as far the scientists have proven it. And more researches have been done. You lay emphasis on ILE IFE of Yoruba land as the place where Odua fused all the thirteen sub communities to five while he made each group had leaders. Are you sure it was at ILE IFE of Nigeria?, Have you read blier's account and one of the greatest Yoruba historians cum archeologist? who interpreted the artifacts which were seen at ILE IFE during their findings. None of these show Yoruba sculptures older than 1100 AD-1300AD. Blier account is in Pdf, download it, read it thoroughly and your own opinion on it leads you to some facts about Yoruba ethnicity. 2 Likes |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by YonkijiSappo: 4:37pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Nowhere in your original post is Yoruba mentioned. or am I missing something? |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(m): 4:55pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
YonkijiSappo:That was a preamble on the follow up. Everything has beginning. And I did the needed to help those who don't know what NEANDERTHALS MEANS. I hope I have satisfied your question. |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(m): 11:02am On Apr 03, 2017 |
The differences between Africans and Europeans may only be skin deep after scientists found that populations are far more genetically similar than previously thought. Researchers at the University of Cambridge have mapped the earliest ever African genome from a 4,500 year old Ethiopian and compared it to the genetic make-up of populations across the continent. To their surprise, they found that compared with the earlier communities, up to one quarter of African DNA has come from interbreeding with Western Eurasians, such as people from Britain, Europe and the west of Asia. Even isolated African communities were found to have around five per cent of Eurasian DNA , suggesting that communities migrated to all parts of the continent. Scientists believe that most of the interbreeding happened following a mysterious migratory event which occurred around 3,000 years ago, known as the ‘Eurasian backflow’ when modern humans who left African around 50,000 years ago, suddenly flooded back. But the new study suggests that ‘mind-blowing’ numbers of people must have moved back to account for their presence in the DNA of modern Africans, accounting for around one third of the population. “Roughly speaking, the wave of West Eurasian migration back into the Horn of Africa could have been as much as 30 per cent of the population that already lived there – and that, to me, is mind-blowing, “said Dr Andrea Manica, senior author of the study from the University of Cambridge’s Department of Zoology. “The question is: what got them moving all of a sudden?” The latest study is the first time an ancient human genome has been recovered and sequenced from Africa, the source of all human genetic diversity. The genome was taken from the skull of a man buried face-down 4,500 years ago in a cave called Mota in the highlands of Ethiopia – a cave cool and dry enough to preserve his DNA for thousands of years. Previously, ancient genome analysis has been limited to samples from northern and arctic regions “With an ancient genome, we have a direct window into the distant past. One genome from one individual can provide a picture of an entire population,” added Dr Manica. The cause of the West Eurasian migration back into Africa is currently a mystery, with no obvious climatic reasons. Archaeological evidence does, however, show the migration coincided with the arrival of Near Eastern crops into East Africa such as wheat and barley, suggesting the migrants helped develop new forms of agriculture in the region. “Genomes from this migration seeped right across the continent, way beyond East Africa, from the YORUBA on the western coast to the Mbuti in the heart of the Congo – who show as much as 7 per cenr and 6 per cent of their genomes respectively to be West Eurasian,” said Marcos Gallego Llorente, first author of the study, also from Cambridge’s Zoology Department. “Africa is a total melting pot. We know that the last 3,000 years saw a complete scrambling of population genetics in Africa. So being able to get a snapshot from before these migration events occurred is a big step. The researchers say the Eurasian migrants were direct descendants of the Neolithic farmers that had had brought agriculture from the Near East into West Eurasia around 7,000 years ago, and then migrated into the Horn of Africa some 4,000 years later. “It’s quite remarkable that genetically-speaking this is the same population that left the Near East several millennia previously,” said Eppie Jones, a geneticist at Trinity College Dublin who led the laboratory work to sequence the genome. Researchers used the petrous bone - a thick part of the temporal bone at the base of the skull, just behind the ear – to find the ancient DNA which they then sequenced. “It’s hard to get your hands on remains that have been suitably preserved,” added co-author Dr Ron Pinhasi, from University College Dublin. “The denser the bone, the more likely you are to find DNA that’s been protected from degradation, so teeth are often used, but we found an even better bone – the petrous.” The findings are published today in the journal science COURTESY: SARAH KNAPTON |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Nobody: 8:04pm On May 20, 2017 |
Olu317, I've a question to ask. Did Neanderthal evolved from common Apes as Homo Saipans did? Do you really believe Yoruba people were one of the few original Jews? If so, are you proud of your Jewishness? In one of your comment on my topic, you said the Tigray people are closer to Yoruba. But Tigrays aren't Jews. Can you explain me your claim on this. |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(m): 12:21am On May 21, 2017 |
Hati13:I didn't infer that they were close to Yoruba but mentioned that they were sharing percentage of traces DNA with Yorubas. Yoruba have over 80+ DNA traces in all the regions of the world. And tigray, Oromo are part of them. On the NEANDERTHAL, that's the theory being speculated. Despite the fact that the whole world came out through one source, ideologies differed because of self groups developments. Now, Many part of Yoruba history has some contradictory aspects because of the creation myth being the place where the world begun. However, there are certain characteristics seen amongst Yoruba that made researchers of western world to acknowledge the Judaism in part of Yoruba history. Take for instance, the claim of DIVINE KINGS in Yoruba beliefs. In Yoruba land, the over all Chief PRIEST of YORUBA WORLD IS CALLED “ARABA" (RABBI is a Hebrew word for priest ). The first word created in Yoruba account of how the world was created by EL-EDUMARE (EL) was ELA(word) .The Bible record this in the beginning of Gen1:2(God spoke/Word). The first Colour RABBI IN THE US was A Yoruba man. ARNOLD JOSIAH FORD. IT WILL shock you that he was the one that anointed Ras Tefari. Do you know the ancient Hebrews aren't different from Egyptians in complexion? Their religion was the difference between them. However, I don't want to go into it. Yoruba have FIVE Jewish DNA traces NAMELY; SAMARITAN, SEPHARDIC, JEWISH TURKEY, COCHIN JEWISH AND BNEI MENASHE JEWISH. TRUTHFULLY,I don't share in the belief of supremacy of ethnicity. In fact the Hebrews have suffered more in life, simply because of their disobedience to God. Based on the typical nature of Yoruba, I wouldn't want to be boastful of something like that but to acknowledge it. Despite the fact that few elements amongst Yoruba people believed that Yoruba originated from West Africa. However everything our forefathers left down for us to use as a link to our past point out that WE AREN'T FROM SUBSAHARA AFRICA. TAKE FOR INSTANCE , AROUND 10TH—11TH CENTURY, WE WERE THE ONLY ONE WITH GLASS BEADS PRODUCTION WHICH WERE ALIEN TO OTHER PEOPLE. 1 Share
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| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(m): 12:42am On May 21, 2017 |
DNA TRACES LIKE I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER
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| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Nobody: 1:15am On May 21, 2017 |
Olu317:Ok, are there some Yorubas who follow Judaism? Is your culture nowadays are a mix of Semitic and sub sharan or you have completely forgotten your Semitic culture and are only sub sharan culture? I've seen here on Nairaland that Lagos belongs to Yoruba. Isn't true? 1 Like |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by MetaPhysical: 1:57am On May 21, 2017 |
Hati13: Let me help clarify the points. Judaism, Jewish, Israelites are all ideologies and societies that succeeded and descended from NOAH. Judaism is the ideology, Jewish is the worship and Israelites is the race of people associated with that ideology and worship. Yoruba is none of that! Yoruba itself can be traced back to Noah and shares origin with the people of Semitic tongue. The modern Yoruba tongue has evolved vastly from its ancient usage, and yet, traces of Ancient Hebrew and Mediterranean lexicons and root words are found in it, in exclusion of attributes common to ethnic tongues in the Sub Saharan region. So picture Yoruba geographically located in a sub saharan region and cohabiting with other negro races but the language and word etymology has root and origination in AfroAsia. This should open the mind to wonder and question the leap from one place to another and the evolution of our nativity. It is possible that Yoruba may have had its first footprint in its present territory. It is also possible that the first footprint were founded in AfroAsia. No one knows for certain. However, there are artifacts that exist and knowledge that exist and these tangibles can act as "fill-in-the-blanks" to connect and explain the leap. Yoruba is above Jewish and Ifa is superior to Judaism. We are not of them, they are of us. They claim root to Abraham, we claim root to Noah!
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| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by 9jakool: 2:34am On May 21, 2017 |
Olu317:Why Oromo and not other Cushitic groups? Why Tigray specifically and not Amhara or other Semitic speaking people of the Horn when in fact all of them descended from the same line? Ethiopia is the origin of humans so the ancestors that likely form the Yoruba people as well as all humans from Asia to Europe to Americas etc came from Ethiopia. Ancestors of Yoruba were never the exception. Notice my usage of ancestors and not Yoruba people in particular. Most of the culture of Yoruba likely developed in West Africa. This is why you can see parallels across Africa. Now, Many part of Yoruba history has some contradictory aspects because of the creation myth being the place where the world begun. However, there are certain characteristics seen amongst Yoruba that made researchers of western world to acknowledge the Judaism in part of Yoruba history. Take for instance, the claim of DIVINE KINGS in Yoruba beliefs. In Yoruba land, the over all Chief PRIEST of YORUBA WORLD IS CALLED “ARABA" (RABBI is a Hebrew word for priest ). The first word created in Yoruba account of how the world was created by EL-EDUMARE (EL) was ELA(word) .The Bible record this in the beginning of Gen1:2(God spoke/Word).Yes, if you take Yoruba origin myths literally, then you may come across contradictions. A lot of Yoruba culture is figurative or symbolic in meaning. Also what researchers? You mean the very minuscule outcasts who call themselves researchers and don't follow the Scientific method, but rather rely on pseudo theories and insignificant evidence to point out some obscured links. One of such ridiculous claim is the word araba having some link to Hebrew. Hebrew is a Semitic language that relies on root words and their alteration.Yoruba is heavily influenced by tone, so there is no direct link. Rabbi comes from, the root R-B-B meaning master with the literary translation of the "great one" which is different from the denotation of Yoruba araba. Yoruba doesn't use the root system for words and Hebrew doesn't rely on tone, that alone should be enough evidence to disproof a link. Yoruba is closer to other Sub-saharan languages than Hebrew. The first Colour RABBI IN THE US was A Yoruba man. ARNOLD JOSIAH FORD. IT WILL shock you that he was the one that anointed Ras Tefari. Do you know the ancient Hebrews aren't different from Egyptians in complexion? Their religion was the difference between them. However, I don't want to go into it. Yoruba have FIVE Jewish DNA traces NAMELY; SAMARITAN, SEPHARDIC, JEWISH TURKEY, COCHIN JEWISH AND BNEI MENASHE JEWISH.I see you have surrounded yourself with "The Black Hebrew Israelite" or whatever they call themselves. These are the people who are trying so hard to rewrite the history of Africa. Also does Arnold Josiah Ford sound Yoruba to you? He is from the Caribbean, specifically Barbados. He is simply not Yoruba. Why are so many Africans/descendants trying so hard to attach themselves to other people even having the audacity to claim that certain people are fake and they are the "real" whatever. Is that not pure inferiority complex? Must you become people from the Bible/Torah/Koran to feel accomplished or special? "Yoruba have Five Jewish DNA Traces?"  Are my eyes seeing right? Just say it already...1...2...3...YORUBA ARE JEWS! Like dude if you believe you are Jewish or whatever, it's fine. You can go with that identity, but do not and I repeat do not attach it to the name "Yoruba." TRUTHFULLY,I don't share in the belief of supremacy of ethnicity. In fact the Hebrews have suffered more in life, simply because of their disobedience to God. Based on the typical nature of Yoruba, I wouldn't want to be boastful of something like that but to acknowledge it. Despite the fact that few elements amongst Yoruba people believed that Yoruba originated from West Africa. However everything our forefathers left down for us to use as a link to our past point out that WE AREN'T FROM SUBSAHARA AFRICA. TAKE FOR INSTANCE , AROUND 10TH—11TH CENTURY, WE WERE THE ONLY ONE WITH GLASS BEADS PRODUCTION WHICH WERE ALIEN TO OTHER PEOPLE.This part makes sense!  1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(m): 10:08am On May 21, 2017 |
9jakool:You are quite funny. This is because, you only opined your view and didn't do anything to counter my findings, I screened shot. I am not the first to have been able to establish certain facts about Yoruba. Have you gone back in history to find out why certain features and characteristics of Canaan or Hebrews are found in Yoruba way of life. Have you for once forgot your research to the extent that, it was only in ancient Yoruba that had glass beads production which were not in existence in any part of Sub Saharan Africa? Why is it only in YORUBA do SOLOMON'S KNOT ARE ONLY USED BY KINGS LINEAGE AND CHIEFS? You think everyone I am affectionately attached to Hebrews? You must be kidding. WHY DO YORUBA PRIEST HAVE FRINGES ON THEIR SHAWL? WHY DO FRINGES APPEAR ALSO IN ANCIENT YORUBA ASO OKE etc ? IT IS ONE OF THE JUDAISM's Priests mode of dressing. WHY DO YOU FIND “UDUA" FOUND IN JUDUA AND O'ODUA(ODUDUDTell me, where did olofin Adimula and his people came from? DNA isn't about self glorifying but hitting at the ancestors connection and unraveling link with the part whom share family links. Oromo and tigray aren't the only people Yoruba had link with Even there is a particular Kenya Bantu that Yoruba shares with. Don't get worked up. Just do the RESEARCH AND COME COUNTER MY FINDINGS or you respect my findings. Perhaps, you think I just jumped into this because of self pride, I guess, you are wrong as F9 if that was your thought. Every man has a purpose on earth, and I am destined to speak up and write accordingly to the dictate of ELEDUMARE on my people. It is an insult though to infer that I shouldn't use the word Yoruba. Are you more YORUBA THAN I AM? You need be engrossed in bitterness because of what you think it look untrue but IT IS THE TRUTH. Why is it that YORUBA GOD (ELEDUMARE) have the same features with HEBREWS? Where did Yoruba learn the tradition of using lamb, ram, heifer, birds, etc as sacrifice and atonement of sins? Why do Yoruba of old do redemption for women after menstruation? Similar to people of Middle East. Egypt worship Ram in the ancient times. How come Yoruba having same naming period and circumcisions with Hebrews? How come Yoruba God is ageless and referred to Ancient of days? I mentioned the manner at which Eledumare brought forth word through “EL—A ROO–WAA. Have you knowledge who the Hebrew referred to EL? All these are coincidence, right? I want to do research before being emotional on issue. Perhaps, when you do your own DNA, you may be thinking of doing more personal research. Cheers 1 Like |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(m): 10:09am On May 21, 2017 |
9jakool:You are quite funny. This is because, you only opined your view and didn't do anything to counter my findings, I screened shot. I am not the first to have been able to establish certain facts about Yoruba. Have you gone back in history to find out why certain features and characteristics of Canaan or Hebrews are found in Yoruba way of life. Have you for once forgot your research to the extent that, it was only in ancient Yoruba that had glass beads production which were not in existence in any part of Sub Saharan Africa? Why is it only in YORUBA do SOLOMON'S KNOT ARE ONLY USED BY KINGS LINEAGE AND CHIEFS? You think everyone I am affectionately attached to Hebrews? You must be kidding. WHY DO YORUBA PRIEST HAVE FRINGES ON THEIR SHAWL? WHY DO FRINGES APPEAR ALSO IN ANCIENT YORUBA ASO OKE etc ? IT IS ONE OF THE JUDAISM's Priests mode of dressing. WHY DO YOU FIND “UDUA" FOUND IN JUDUA AND O'ODUA(ODUDUDTell me, where did olofin Adimula and his people came from? DNA isn't about self glorifying but hitting at the ancestors connection and unraveling link with the part whom share family links. Oromo and tigray aren't the only people Yoruba had link with Even there is a particular Kenya Bantu that Yoruba shares with. Don't get worked up. Just do the RESEARCH AND COME COUNTER MY FINDINGS or you respect my findings. Perhaps, you think I just jumped into this because of self pride, I guess, you are wrong as F9 if that was your thought. Every man has a purpose on earth, and I am destined to speak up and write accordingly to the dictate of ELEDUMARE on my people. It is an insult though to infer that I shouldn't use the word Yoruba. Are you more YORUBA THAN I AM? You need be engrossed in bitterness because of what you think it look untrue but IT IS THE TRUTH. Why is it that YORUBA GOD (ELEDUMARE) have the same features with HEBREWS? Where did Yoruba learn the tradition of using lamb, ram, heifer, birds, etc as sacrifice and atonement of sins? Why do Yoruba of old do redemption for women after menstruation? Similar to people of Middle East. Egypt worship Ram in the ancient times. How come Yoruba having same naming period and circumcisions with Hebrews? How come Yoruba God is ageless and referred to Ancient of days? I mentioned the manner at which Eledumare brought forth word through “EL—A ROO–WAA. Have you knowledge who the Hebrew referred to EL? All these are coincidence, right? I want to do research before being emotional on issue. Perhaps, when you do your own DNA, you may be thinking of doing more personal research. Cheers [img] 9jakool:You are quite funny. This is because, you only opined your view and didn't do anything to counter my findings, I screened shot. I am not the first to have been able to establish certain facts about Yoruba. Have you gone back in history to find out why certain features and characteristics of Canaan or Hebrews are found in Yoruba way of life. Have you for once forgot your research to the extent that, it was only in ancient Yoruba that had glass beads production which were not in existence in any part of Sub Saharan Africa? Why is it only in YORUBA do SOLOMON'S KNOT ARE ONLY USED BY KINGS LINEAGE AND CHIEFS? You think everyone I am affectionately attached to Hebrews? You must be kidding. WHY DO YORUBA PRIEST HAVE FRINGES ON THEIR SHAWL? WHY DO FRINGES APPEAR ALSO IN ANCIENT YORUBA ASO OKE etc ? IT IS ONE OF THE JUDAISM's Priests mode of dressing. WHY DO YOU FIND “UDUA" FOUND IN JUDUA AND O'ODUA(ODUDUDTell me, where did olofin Adimula and his people came from? DNA isn't about self glorifying but hitting at the ancestors connection and unraveling link with the part whom share family links. Oromo and tigray aren't the only people Yoruba had link with Even there is a particular Kenya Bantu that Yoruba shares with. Don't get worked up. Just do the RESEARCH AND COME COUNTER MY FINDINGS or you respect my findings. Perhaps, you think I just jumped into this because of self pride, I guess, you are wrong as F9 if that was your thought. Every man has a purpose on earth, and I am destined to speak up and write accordingly to the dictate of ELEDUMARE on my people. It is an insult though to infer that I shouldn't use the word Yoruba. Are you more YORUBA THAN I AM? You need be engrossed in bitterness because of what you think it look untrue but IT IS THE TRUTH. Why is it that YORUBA GOD (ELEDUMARE) have the same features with HEBREWS? Where did Yoruba learn the tradition of using lamb, ram, heifer, birds, etc as sacrifice and atonement of sins? Why do Yoruba of old do redemption for women after menstruation? Similar to people of Middle East. Egypt worship Ram in the ancient times. How come Yoruba having same naming period and circumcisions with Hebrews? How come Yoruba God is ageless and referred to Ancient of days? I mentioned the manner at which Eledumare brought forth word through “EL—A ROO–WAA. Have you knowledge who the Hebrew referred to EL? All these are coincidence, right? I want to do research before being emotional on issue. Perhaps, when you do your own DNA, you may be thinking of doing more personal research. Cheers [/img] 9jakool:You are quite funny. This is because, you only opined your view and didn't do anything to counter my findings, I screened shot. I am not the first to have been able to establish certain facts about Yoruba. Have you gone back in history to find out why certain features and characteristics of Canaan or Hebrews are found in Yoruba way of life?. Have you for once taken your research to the extent that, it was only in ancient Yoruba that had glass beads production which were not in existence in any part of Sub Saharan Africa? Why is it only in YORUBA do SOLOMON'S KNOT ARE ONLY USED BY KINGS LINEAGE AND CHIEFS? You think I am affectionately attached to Hebrews? You must be kidding. WHY DO YORUBA PRIEST HAVE FRINGES ON THEIR SHAWL? WHY DO FRINGES APPEAR ALSO IN ANCIENT YORUBA ASO OKE etc ? IT IS ONE OF THE JUDAISM's Priests mode of dressing. WHY DO YOU FIND “UDUA" FOUND IN JUDUA AND O'ODUA(ODUDUA)Tell me, where did olofin Adimula and his people came from? DNA isn't about self glorifying but hitting at the ancestors connection and unraveling link with the part whom share family links. Oromo and tigray aren't the only people Yoruba had link with Even there is a particular Kenya Bantu that Yoruba shares with. Don't get worked up. Just do the RESEARCH AND COME COUNTER MY FINDINGS or you respect my findings. Perhaps, you think I just jumped into this because of self pride, I guess, you are wrong as F9 if that was your thought. Every man has a purpose on earth, and I am destined to speak up and write accordingly to the dictate of ELEDUMARE on my people. It is an insult though to infer that I shouldn't use the word Yoruba. Are you more YORUBA THAN I AM? You need be engrossed in bitterness because of what you think it look untrue but IT IS THE TRUTH. Why is it that YORUBA GOD (ELEDUMARE) have the same features with HEBREWS? Where did Yoruba learn the tradition of using lamb, ram, heifer, birds, etc as sacrifice and atonement of sins? Why do Yoruba of old do redemption for women after menstruation? Similar to people of Middle East. Egypt worship Ram in the ancient times. How come Yoruba having same naming period and circumcisions with Hebrews? How come Yoruba God is ageless and referred to Ancient of days? I mentioned the manner at which Eledumare brought forth word through “EL—A ROO–WAA. Have you knowledge who the Hebrew referred to EL? All these are coincidence, right? I want to do research before being emotional on issue. Perhaps, when you do your own DNA, you may be thinking of doing more personal research. IF YOU CAN'T UNRAVEL THEIR MIGRATION AND THE man WHOSE WAS IDENTIFY AS OODUA. Cheers |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(m): 11:01am On May 21, 2017 |
@9akool, you missed the point seriously because Yoruba are a people with DNA traces linked to many part of the 17 grouping of world DNA traces . This alone testified to the claim of Yoruba claiming humanity came through them. And I posit here that , the humanity that Yoruba ancestors referred was ABRAHAM. Many tribes have claimed that human beings came out of them but Yoruba's take is different. Here are the group Yoruba are linked with in West Africa.
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| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(m): 11:17am On May 21, 2017 |
@9akool, can explain why “ANU" MEAN THE SAME IN HEBREWS HANNA? ÉYÉ MEAN THE SAME AS AYA IN HEBREWS? BA'ALE; husband /lord over people Same as HEBREW's BA'ALI /BAALAM cum Semitic language Are these coincidence? Bro do research while use the foundation of the past Yoruba researchers as well as Western researchers.
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| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(m): 11:52am On May 21, 2017 |
Hati13:The Judaism they practice in Israel IS A REFORMED ONE. NOW, there is a tradition in YORUBA LAND IN WHICH IT IS ENSHRINED “IFA" .The IFA 's knowledge is connected to ABRAHAMIC RELIGION. YORUBA DON'T PRACTICE THE MODERN DAY JUDAISM. BUT THE ANCIENT FORM OF IT. IFA KNOWLEDGE TAKES AT LEAST 16 YEARS FOR ANY APPRENTICE WITH HIGH INTELLIGENCE TO BE ABLE TO MASTER THE WORDS IN SEQUENCE. AND ALMOST 25–30YEARS FOR OTHERS. SOMETIMES, IT MAY TAKE MORE THAN THAT YEARS FOR ONE TO BE ABLE TO MEMORISE THE CODES. YES, LAGOS BELONGS TO YORUBAS ,THE JUDAISM IN PRESENT DAY ISRAEL IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT BUT IN TERMS OF RITUALS AND FEW BELIEFS, IT IS STILL SIMILAR. |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by MetaPhysical: 6:26pm On May 21, 2017 |
Olu317: Olu, Ifa preceded Abraham. How did Abraham worship? How did he perform rites, did he have altar, shrine, temple? |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by 9jakool: 7:45pm On May 21, 2017 |
Olu317:It's called coincidence, nothing out of the ordinary. Have you for once forgot your research to the extent that, it was only in ancient Yoruba that had glass beads production which were not in existence in any part of Sub Saharan Africa? Why is it only in YORUBA do SOLOMON'S KNOT ARE ONLY USED BY KINGS LINEAGE AND CHIEFS?Ok, cool. It was an independent evolution, that's all. WHY DO YOU FIND “UDUA" FOUND IN JUDUA AND O'ODUA(ODUDUDTell me, where did olofin Adimula and his people came from?Oduduwa has nothing to do with Judah. ODU TO DA UWA. Judah actually comes from Yehuda meaning praised which has no relationship to oduduwa. DNA isn't about self glorifying but hitting at the ancestors connection and unraveling link with the part whom share family links. Oromo and tigray aren't the only people Yoruba had link with Even there is a particular Kenya Bantu that Yoruba shares with.Yoruba people are from Africa so why won't there be shared DNA with other Africans. It's nothinjg shocking nor special. The moment you pull up Arnold Josiah Ford was the moment I started to doubt the credibility of your findings. Perhaps, you think I just jumped into this because of self pride, I guess, you are wrong as F9 if that was your thought.Nahh, not at all. Every man has a purpose on earth, and I am destined to speak up and write accordingly to the dictate of ELEDUMARE on my people. It is an insult though to infer that I shouldn't use the word Yoruba. Are you more YORUBA THAN I AM? You need be engrossed in bitterness because of what you think it look untrue but IT IS THE TRUTH.Nahh, I just hate the attachment of Yoruba to Hebrew or any psuedo science origin claim. Somebody who is proud of their lineage does not need justification nor attachment. Why is it that YORUBA GOD (ELEDUMARE) have the same features with HEBREWS? Where did Yoruba learn the tradition of using lamb, ram, heifer, birds, etc as sacrifice and atonement of sins? Why do Yoruba of old do redemption for women after menstruation? Similar to people of Middle East. Egypt worship Ram in the ancient times. How come Yoruba having same naming period and circumcisions with Hebrews? How come Yoruba God is ageless and referred to Ancient of days?You know there are correlations between different ethnic groups, but those correlations does not necessarily mean relationship. This same correlation is why some Igbo people think they are Hebrew. I mentioned the manner at which Eledumare brought forth word through “EL—A ROO–WAA. Have you knowledge who the Hebrew referred to EL? All these are coincidence, right? I want to do research before being emotional on issue. Perhaps, when you do your own DNA, you may be thinking of doing more personal research. CheersEl just means God in Hebrew. "Ele" in Yoruba is used as possession. 1 Like |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(m): 8:36pm On May 21, 2017 |
9jakool:I want to believe it was coincidence. But was it coincidence too for children of Odu'a descendants to be attached to white Ram sacrificial? You can only find this amongst HEBREWS and later adopted by MUSLIMS. Now I have opened a new chapter of my history. This EDOS don't know this. This is the reason I mock their ignorance when they call my ancestor's ,a lineage of Edo people. They are bunch of liars. Is it coincidence, that the real story Odu'a was of his father being killed in Middle East? Do you really think Odu'a was his name? Let me believe, you are correct but note that the ancient way of reference to JUDUA was O'JUDUA and “j" can be interchanged to D and can be reverse too. if you do your studying very well you will understand. The Bible may look as a history book to some people it is not to me because the Bible specifically mentioned kings history before they were born before they were born. That is the reason I use the Bible connect to even the might of Egypt. Even the OGBONI has Due 29vs 29 as a shield. You will not understand certain things. Was it a coincidence that Yoruba had beads attached to kings family having Somolon's knot? Let us believe, the name Dua and Judua aren't related, as you have claimed. But have you thought, why Adimula had fringes on his Shawl? Have you seen how Ooni dresses? That's the way of Judaism priest and king's dress mode. I mentioned Arnold Josiah Ford because, during his own time, he didn't have access to the internet but oral history pass to him by his parents. And he had knowledge of doing his findings. Arnold wasnt the the issue but a RABBI that came and said what he saw. Was that a coincidence too? “El" wasnt outrightly God in Hebrew, “Elyions". Yoruba El and Hebrews El are but Prefix,attached to another,which naturally describes “Almightiness" in the personality being talked about. I am extensively read and I will advise you to do the same without being bias but study to see it those things are part of history or not. Then you can begin to draw conclusions gradually . Read what the RABBI SAID
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| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(m): 8:37pm On May 21, 2017 |
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| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Nobody: 8:49pm On May 21, 2017 |
Olu317:You told me once that you are Christian, but not like the Christians of catholic, orthodox or Protestant. Is your Christianity related to Yoruba Judaism? 1 Like |
| Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by 9jakool: 8:58pm On May 21, 2017 |
Olu317:You are overthinking everything. It's coincidence and that's all. Jewish are Middle Eastern. Yoruba are West Africans. |
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