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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by felixomor: 3:48pm On Apr 07, 2017
DoctorAlien:


A statement that is contradictory to "Judas bought the field" is "Judas did not buy the field"

The chief priests bought the field, but it was Judas who funded the buying. Thus, Judas can be said to have bought the field.

Thanks brother.

The man has intentionally refused to grasp simple grammatical Concord.
Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by randomperson: 3:57pm On Apr 07, 2017
felixomor:


Wait, i dont want to derail this thread.

But let me just answer your question from simple common sense, without even opening the bible.

Lets assume your paraphrasing of the bible is correct:

Supposing Judas bought the land in January and the priest that you are tAlking about, bought the land later in June,

Please with your common sense,
Is it still a contradiction to say "they both bought the land"?
I suggest u should open your bible because you are talking complete trash:

In the first account, he gave the money to the priests who used it to buy a burial place for strangers. While in the second account, the money that was already used by the priests was used by Judas to buy a land where he fell to his death...

You obviously are not even familiar with the story. So shameful

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by felixomor: 4:01pm On Apr 07, 2017
randomperson:

I suggest u should open your bible because you are talking complete trash:

In the first account, he gave the money to the priests who used it to buy a burial place for strangers. While in the second account, the money that was already used by the priests was used by Judas to buy a land where he fell to his death...

You obviously are not even familiar with the story. So shameful

You dont even read what you are replying.
I clearly specifically told you "from common sense"

DoctorAlien has already told u again, what a contradiction is.
And he told u what a contradiction to "Judas bought the land" would have been.

You can only keep pretending.
Done on that.

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by 4kings: 4:02pm On Apr 07, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:

There is no such thing as the 'Christian God' . If you meant to ask for the proof that the Christian's concept of God is true , then I'd say scrutiny. Christian theism fulfills every logical expectation of what God should be like .
@bolded
What should God be like?
Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by randomperson: 4:11pm On Apr 07, 2017
DoctorAlien:


A statement that is contradictory to "Judas bought the field" is "Judas did not buy the field"

The chief priests bought the field, but it was Judas who funded the buying. Thus, Judas can be said to have bought the field.
U guys are obviously not familiar with the story..
In the first account, Judas had no intention to buy any land, he merely returned the money they gave him. In the second he acquired the land himself and died on the land. So "Judas did not buy the field."
Even the creation story has two accounts. The bible is nothing more than badly written fiction

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by bolkay47(m): 4:11pm On Apr 07, 2017
DoctorAlien:


A statement that is contradictory to "Judas bought the field" is "Judas did not buy the field"

The chief priests bought the field, but it was Judas who funded the buying. Thus, Judas can be said to have bought the field.
Nice one sir!!

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by randomperson: 4:12pm On Apr 07, 2017
felixomor:


You dont even read what you are replying.
I clearly specifically told you "from common sense"

DoctorAlien has already told u again, what a contradiction is.
And he told u what a contradiction to "Judas bought the land" would have been.

You can only keep pretending.
Done on that.
Judas did not by the land, the priests did. At least in the first account... Therefore, contradiction!

Your acrobatics is intriguing tho

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by felixomor: 4:16pm On Apr 07, 2017
randomperson:

Judas did not by the land, the priests did. At least in the first account... Therefore, contradiction!

Your acrobatics is intriguing tho

Suit yourself Mehn.
The truth is looking at u.

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by DoctorAlien(m): 4:20pm On Apr 07, 2017
randomperson:

U guys are obviously not familiar with the story..
In the first account, Judas had no intention to buy any land, he merely returned the money they gave him. In the second he acquired the land himself and died on the land. So "Judas did not buy the field."
Even the creation story has two accounts. The bible is nothing more than badly written fiction

Oga, if Judas did not get the money across to the chief priests, would the land have been bought?

I expected you to ask yourself this question.

If your answer to the question is "no", then I don't know what else you're saying, because it is obvious to every thinking being that the mere act of funding the purchase qualifies Judas to be labelled as the buyer.

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by bolkay47(m): 4:33pm On Apr 07, 2017
DoctorAlien:


Oga, if Judas did not get the money across to the chief priests, would the land have been bought?

I expected you to ask yourself this question.

If your answer to the question is "no", then I don't know what else you're saying, because it is obvious to every thinking being that the mere act of funding of the purchase qualifies Judas to be labelled as the buyer.
He is not here to learn(if thats the right word to use) but to argue endlessly. Its very obvious.

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by randomperson: 4:34pm On Apr 07, 2017
DoctorAlien:


Oga, if Judas did not get the money across to the chief priests, would the land have been bought?

I expected you to ask yourself this question.

If your answer to the question is "no", then I don't know what else you're saying, because it is obvious to every thinking being that the mere act of funding of the purchase qualifies Judas to be labelled as the buyer.
Judas didn't fund the purchase... Judas already relinquished ownership of the money by throwing it back to the priests. The priests used their money to buy a land... The second account clearly states that " Judas BOUGHT "...
For him to have bought there must have been an intention to buy. If I throw money at someone and the person goes to buy hard drugs. Can it be said that I bought the drugs?


BTW, the statement: I was at ibadan is not only contradicted by " I wasn't at Ibadan''. If I say , "I was at Lagos", it's also a contradiction because I can't be at two places at the same time

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by DoctorAlien(m): 4:46pm On Apr 07, 2017
randomperson:

Judas didn't fund the purchase... Judas already relinquished ownership of the money by throwing it back to the priests. The priests used their money to buy a land... The second account clearly states that " Judas BOUGHT "...
For him to have bought there must have been an intention to buy. If I throw money at someone and the person goes to buy hard drugs. Can it be said that I bought the drugs?

BTW, the statement: I was at ibadan is not only contradicted by " I wasn't at Ibadan''. If I say , "I was at Lagos", it's also a contradiction because I can't be at two places at the same time

Assuming he did not bring the money, would the land have been bought?

If I give a friend $100 and he uses it to buy a phone for me from Aliexpress: who bought the phone?

The last paragraph of your post reveals your puerile sense of logic. You need to read.

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by randomperson: 4:49pm On Apr 07, 2017
DoctorAlien:


Assuming he did not bring the money, would the land have been bought?

If I give a friend $100 and he uses it to buy a phone[b] for me[/b] from Aliexpress: who bought the phone?

They didn't buy the land for him! Don't you have access to a bible

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by DoctorAlien(m): 4:52pm On Apr 07, 2017
randomperson:

They didn't buy the land for him! Don't you have access to a bible

He needs not claim ownership of the land before he is recognized as the buyer. It can be said he bought the land for the chief priests, just like I can give the phone which my friend bought with my $100 to another friend. Okay?

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by randomperson: 4:54pm On Apr 07, 2017
DoctorAlien:


Assuming he did not bring the money, would the land have been bought?

If I give a friend $100 and he uses it to buy a phone for me from Aliexpress: who bought the phone?

The last paragraph of your post reveals your puerile sense of logic. You need to read.
Didn't see the last part of your comment earlier . There's something called affirmative defenses in law. It means disproving a fact by proving another fact. The illustration I gave is an example. It's called alibi...
Apparently, you're the one who needs to read more

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by randomperson: 4:58pm On Apr 07, 2017
DoctorAlien:


He needs not claim ownership of the land before he is recognized as the buyer. It can be said he bought the land for the chief priests, just like I can give the phone which my friend bought with my $100 to another friend. Okay?
If you GAVE $100 to a friend to use as he wishes and he buys a phone. Can you collect the phone from him? No because it's not your own!!
BTW the question is not about ownership but about who bought the phone
Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:00pm On Apr 07, 2017
randomperson:

If you GAVE $100 to a friend to use as he wishes and he buys a phone. Can you collect the phone from him? No because it's not your own!!

Please stop embarrassing yourself here na . What kind of shallow responses are these na . How far you na undecided . Its not by force to comment . Accept the beating you have received and leave abeg embarassed

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by randomperson: 5:01pm On Apr 07, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Please stop embarrassing yourself here na . What kind of shallow responses are these na . How far you na undecided . Its not by force to comment . Accept the beating you have received and leave abeg embarassed
grin
Abeg shift!! This particular tactic is old and as ineffective as ever... But nice try tho'

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by DoctorAlien(m): 5:02pm On Apr 07, 2017
randomperson:

If you GAVE $100 to a friend to use as he wishes and he buys a phone. Can you collect the phone from him? No because it's not your own!!

We are looking at the fact that if Judas did not provide the funds, the land would not have been bought.

Judas bought the land(for the chief priests maybe) because he funded the purchase!

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by luvmijeje(f): 5:07pm On Apr 07, 2017
I've not read it yet but I know it will be a blockbuster going by title. Make I first like your post before reading.
Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by randomperson: 5:11pm On Apr 07, 2017
DoctorAlien:


We are looking at the fact that if Judas did not provide the funds, the land would not have been bought.

Judas bought the land(for the chief priests maybe) because he funded the purchase!
Judas didn't BUY the land. The chief priest did. It was the priests decision to buy the land, the actual purchase was carried out by the priests

Judas Iscariot merely threw the money on the ground... They didn't even have to take it.
Or are you saying, if I throw morning on the ground and a person takes and uses it to buy a gun, that means I bought the gun

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by felixomor: 5:15pm On Apr 07, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Please stop embarrassing yourself here na . What kind of shallow responses are these na . How far you na undecided . Its not by force to comment . Accept the beating you have received and leave abeg embarassed

LoL. grin
Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by luvmijeje(f): 5:16pm On Apr 07, 2017
I said it! This is a technical knockout to those unorganized and unconstitutional group of individuals.
Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by felixomor: 5:17pm On Apr 07, 2017
randomperson:

Judas didn't BUY the land. The chief priest did. It was the priests decision to buy the land, the actual purchase was carried out by the priests

Judas Iscariot merely threw the money on the ground... They didn't even have to take it.
Or are you saying, if I throw morning on the ground and a person takes and uses it to buy a gun, that means I bought the gun

@ bolded.
I can see how u have to add to the bible to buttress the lie, you tell yourself.
Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by DoctorAlien(m): 5:19pm On Apr 07, 2017
randomperson:

Judas didn't BUY the land. The chief priest did. It was the priests decision to buy the land, the actual purchase was carried out by the priests

Judas Iscariot merely threw the money on the ground... They didn't even have to take it.
Or are you saying, if I throw morning on the ground and a person takes and uses it to buy a gun, that means I bought the gun

Let me just play along with you.

The chief priests could have screamed to Judas as was leaving "what do you want us to do with this money?" He could have replied "anything." In other words, "use the money I gave you to buy anything, including land."

Therefore, Judas bought the land for the chief priests.

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by randomperson: 5:24pm On Apr 07, 2017
felixomor:


@ bolded.
I can see how u have to add to the bible to buttress the lie, you tell yourself.

[b]6 The chief priests picked up the coins and said, “This is blood money, and it is against our Law to put it in the Temple treasury.” 7 After reaching an agreement about it, they used the money to buy Potter's Field, as a cemetery for foreigners. [/b]8 That is why that field is called “Field of Blood” to this very day.

Read your bible, you won't hear. Its Apostle Suleiman you will be defending all over nairaland.

And Am not a Christian so I don't need to add to the bible. The bible is wack enough on its own

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by felixomor: 5:28pm On Apr 07, 2017
randomperson:


[b]6 The chief priests picked up the coins and said, “This is blood money, and it is against our Law to put it in the Temple treasury.” 7 After reaching an agreement about it, they used the money to buy Potter's Field, as a cemetery for foreigners. [/b]8 That is why that field is called “Field of Blood” to this very day.


Read your bible, you won't hear. Its Apostle Suleiman you will be defending all over nairaland.

And Am not a Christian so I don't need to add to the bible. The bible is wack enough on its own

Just look at yourself.

Unfortunately, is this not all DoctorAlien has been telling you?
You were simply trying to derail the thread endlessly....

Three people have told u on this thread, what I have always told you.
You have a reading problem.
Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by randomperson: 5:29pm On Apr 07, 2017
DoctorAlien:


Let me just play along with you.

The chief priests could have screamed to Judas as was leaving "what do you want us to do with this money?" He could have replied "anything." In other words, "use the money I gave you to buy anything, including land."

Therefore, Judas bought the land for the chief priests.
Lol... This is funny.
If Judas said, use the money to buy anything. How does that mean he bought the land for them? If you gimme money to use to do anything, is the money still yours? Of course not

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by randomperson: 5:31pm On Apr 07, 2017
felixomor:


Just look at yourself.

Unfortunately, is this not all DoctorAlien has been telling you?
You were simply trying to derail the thread endlessly....

Three people have told u on this thread, what I have always told you.
You have a reading problem.
Guy, you don quickly change direction. I thought you were saying it's not the priests' decision? grin

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by DoctorAlien(m): 5:31pm On Apr 07, 2017
randomperson:

Lol... This is funny.
If Judas said, use the money to buy anything. How does that mean he bought the land for them? If you gimme money to use to do anything, is the money still yours? Of course not

Next?
Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by felixomor: 5:33pm On Apr 07, 2017
randomperson:

Guy, you don quickly change direction. I thought you were saying it's not the priests' decision? grin

Of course, your first argument was to imply that the priests brought the money.
That is the rhetoric u were trying to push.

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Re: SIX Extremely Ridiculous Beliefs Atheists Have And Their Simple Rebuttals by randomperson: 5:54pm On Apr 07, 2017
felixomor:


Of course, your first argument was to imply that the priests brought the money.
That is the rhetoric u were trying to push.
No... I merely said it was the priests' decision. Why cant u just admit u misunderstood me? It happens to everyone

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