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Car Cranks But Not Start by captainking(m): 1:12pm On Apr 26, 2017
Hii car gurus.. So. On sats I wanted to go out with my car. Honda accord 2000 v4.. I started the car.. And it started.. But after some minutes.. It went off.. And has since then.. Refused to start.. It cranks.. But wunt start.. And.. All the lights that shows at start up on dashboard shows except check engine light.. I called a rewire who checked the fuses and said they are still OK.. So I surfed the net.. And was told it cud be fuel pump or fuel pump relay.. However... The rewire said he wud get me someone well versed and more knowledgeable than him to check... Gazzuzz.. Nurey.. Kingreign.. Ikenna351... ZIMDRILL. . And other car gurus. Pls help oo... To enter public transport tire me ooo..
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by cardoso514: 1:26pm On Apr 26, 2017
check the coil! check battery heAD and call your rewire mechanic
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by captainking(m): 2:34pm On Apr 26, 2017
cardoso514:
check the coil! check battery heAD and call your rewire mechanic
I just called a rewire mech.. And he checked and said it's brain box. But am having doubts... Wud seek a second opinion.. And u gurus opinions.
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by obekediamondfuto(m): 2:57pm On Apr 26, 2017
the check engine light on the dash before startup is more of a POST. power on self test. if it is not lighting up, there is a discontinuity between the brainbox and the entire engine.

nb it is not fuel pump.
check fuses and RELAYS
ones to look out for are efi fuse, ign and the sort. if u r diy I could help u with the troubleshooting. ..
but do not change anything fuel related until after u have eliminated the bridged brain box connector. cause its the brain box that commands the fuel pump to pump fuel

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Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by captainking(m): 3:36pm On Apr 26, 2017
obekediamondfuto:
the check engine light on the dash before startup is more of a POST. power on self test. if it is not lighting up, there is a discontinuity between the brainbox and the entire engine.

nb it is not fuel pump.
check fuses and RELAYS
ones to look out for are efi fuse, ign and the sort. if u r diy I could help u with the troubleshooting. ..
but do not change anything fuel related until after u have eliminated the bridged brain box connector. cause its the brain box that commands the fuel pump to pump fuel
woa... I love your analysis... That's great bro... Not wonder the second rewire I called said it's from the brain box. Cos he tried to scan and it displayed error on his scanner.. I would also get him to check the relays.. But All fuses have been checked.. And confirmed OK.. Thanks a lot Bro...
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by obekediamondfuto(m): 4:32pm On Apr 26, 2017
uwc, but I emphasize again in the need to check fuses and RELAYS. let the tech confirm that the efi relay is powered, else the same issue will persist even after changing brainbox so before u start throwing parts.... confirm both.
lemme get the locations of both for u

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Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by captainking(m): 5:29pm On Apr 26, 2017
obekediamondfuto:
uwc, but I emphasize again in the need to check fuses and RELAYS. let the tech confirm that the efi relay is powered, else the same issue will persist even after changing brainbox so before u start throwing parts.... confirm both.
lemme get the locations of both for u
OK boss... But pls.. Where is the efi relay located
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by diportivo: 8:06pm On Apr 26, 2017
ur car is a V4 abi?


u need a new engine and gear

dats how V4 cars behave

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Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by obekediamondfuto(m): 8:15pm On Apr 26, 2017
diportivo:
ur car is a V4 abi?

u need a new engine and gear
dats how V4 cars behave
bros haba naw, that's not true.
@ captainking. I've been offline, I'll send a pic in a bit

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Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by obekediamondfuto(m): 8:31pm On Apr 26, 2017
http://techauto.awardspace.com/mainrelaydefine.html#98

that site has the diy needed. .
do not try if u dont have any form of technical knowledge. u can use that to guide the technician handling the challenge

confirm also that ur pgmfi fuse in the fusebox panel is OK.

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Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by Nobody: 8:58pm On Apr 26, 2017
I've had this kind of experience with 2005 Honda Accord EOD that I almost programmed a new key for it.

Op, does ur green key symbol keep flashing while trying to start the car? If so then it's the same that happened to me. All lights come on except check engine light. Mechanic told me key has lost memory with ecu bla bla. At the 3nd of the day it ended up being a bad fuse from the fuse box in the engine compartment. I think it's EFI fuse (I've forgotten). The fuse looked good but on a closer look found out it wasn't, cost me just N100 to change the fuse and the car came back alive. Check any fuse that has to do with ecu.

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Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by mayor2013: 9:39pm On Apr 26, 2017
As long as your check engine light doesn't come up on first ignition under a normal circumstance where it hasn't been blinded by our lovely kazeems then that car would never start. Pop up your hood open up your fuse box look underneath the cover and trace the fuse that aligns with the diagram for the check engine on the fuse box . Bring out the fuse check for a broken link inside or use a multimeter and check for continuity. If its fine go inside your carjust below the left hand underneath the steering column. Check the same check engine light fuse. You could have it labelled as PGMFI. If all fuse is intact. Check all grounds to make sure you don't have a short somewhere. I do not think the ecu has got a relay on your particular honda model. I could be wrong though. Also there is a black long stretch of fuse inside your fuse box (engine compartment) just like a 4 in 1. Look at that closely to be sure there is no broken fuse there. I hope this helps

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Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by honmusa(m): 9:48pm On Apr 26, 2017
captainking:
Hii car gurus.. So. On sats I wanted to go out with my car. Honda accord 2000 v4.. I started the car.. And it started.. But after some minutes.. It went off.. And has since then.. Refused to start.. It cranks.. But wunt start.. And.. All the lights that shows at start up on dashboard shows except check engine light.. I called a rewire who checked the fuses and said they are still OK.. So I surfed the net.. And was told it cud be fuel pump or fuel pump relay.. However... The rewire said he wud get me someone well versed and more knowledgeable than him to check... Gazzuzz.. Nurey.. Kingreign.. Ikenna351... ZIMDRILL. . And other car gurus. Pls help oo... To enter public transport tire me ooo..
Check engine light "off" upon "ignition On"means the ECU is down .
By Honda design ,PGMFI relay is everything for Honda .It powers the ECU ,the injector and the fuel pumps just like what ASD relay does for Jeeps and Dodges.
First check this main relay first before any other thing.
secondly ,look out for the underhood fuse 46 (15A ) that supplies the PGMFI relay.
Lastly check the grounds !!!

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Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by captainking(m): 11:41pm On Apr 26, 2017
honmusa:

Check engine light "off" upon "ignition On"means the ECU is down .
By Honda design ,PGMFI relay is everything for Honda .It powers the ECU ,the injector and the fuel pumps just like what ASD relay does for Jeeps and Dodges.
First check this main relay first before any other thing.
secondly ,look out for the underhood fuse 46 (15A ) that supplies the PGMFI relay.
Lastly check the grounds !!!
Thanks a lot boss. I appreciate
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by captainking(m): 11:43pm On Apr 26, 2017
obekediamondfuto:


bros haba naw, that's not true.

@ captainking. I've been offline, I'll send a pic in a bit
Thanks a lot boss..
Diportivo... U no nice oo.. Hhaahahahaahhaah.. For this recession abi.. Abeg dash me one of ur rides nah..
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by captainking(m): 11:47pm On Apr 26, 2017
diportivo:
ur car is a V4 abi?


u need a new engine and gear

dats how V4 cars behave
Bros.. Abeg nah... Dash me one of your rides.. So I of troway this one.. Hahahhaa
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by captainking(m): 11:48pm On Apr 26, 2017
obekediamondfuto:


bros haba naw, that's not true.

@ captainking. I've been offline, I'll send a pic in a bit
all right boss.. Wud be expecting the pics..
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by captainking(m): 11:58pm On Apr 26, 2017
obekediamondfuto:
http://techauto.awardspace.com/mainrelaydefine.html#98

that site has the diy needed. .
do not try if u dont have any form of technical knowledge. u can use that to guide the technician handling the challenge

confirm also that ur pgmfi fuse in the fusebox panel is OK.
Thanks a lot
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by captainking(m): 11:59pm On Apr 26, 2017
greenhulk:
I've had this kind of experience with 2005 Honda Accord EOD that I almost programmed a new key for it.

Op, does ur green key symbol keep flashing while trying to start the car? If so then it's the same that happened to me. All lights come on except check engine light. Mechanic told me key has lost memory with ecu bla bla. At the 3nd of the day it ended up being a bad fuse from the fuse box in the engine compartment. I think it's EFI fuse (I've forgotten). The fuse looked good but on a closer look found out it wasn't, cost me just N100 to change the fuse and the car came back alive. Check any fuse that has to do with ecu.
Thanks a lot boss.. I wud ensure they check all the fuse..
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by captainking(m): 12:01am On Apr 27, 2017
mayor2013:
As long as your check engine light doesn't come up on first ignition under a normal circumstance where it hasn't been blinded by our lovely kazeems then that car would never start. Pop up your hood open up your fuse box look underneath the cover and trace the fuse that aligns with the diagram for the check engine on the fuse box . Bring out the fuse check for a broken link inside or use a multimeter and check for continuity. If its fine go inside your carjust below the left hand underneath the steering column. Check the same check engine light fuse. You could have it labelled as PGMFI. If all fuse is intact. Check all grounds to make sure you don't have a short somewhere. I do not think the ecu has got a relay on your particular honda model. I could be wrong though. Also there is a black long stretch of fuse inside your fuse box (engine compartment) just like a 4 in 1. Look at that closely to be sure there is no broken fuse there. I hope this helps
Thanks a lot boss.. Wud get all these across to the rewire
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by honmusa(m): 5:07am On Apr 27, 2017
point of correction ,there is nothing like efi fuse in Honda .EFI fuse can only be found in the Toyota.
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by captainking(m): 6:48am On Apr 27, 2017
honmusa:
point of correction ,there is nothing like efi fuse in Honda .EFI fuse can only be found in the Toyota.
that means it's the pgmfi fuse right??
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by honmusa(m): 7:03am On Apr 27, 2017
captainking:
that means it's the pgmfi fuse right??
There is nothing like PGMFI fuse also !!!
all these are jsut clue to what your technician will concentrate on cos I don't advice DIY on electrical so that you won't blow ECU ,give the job to a competent technician to do troubleshooting for u and resolve .

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Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by honmusa(m): 7:09am On Apr 27, 2017
@captainking where is your location
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by captainking(m): 7:37am On Apr 27, 2017
honmusa:
@captainking
where is your location
Oh my.. You just read my mind.. My location is Isolo.. Ire akari Estate... Please do you know anyone around that terrain?? Or can you help me out?? thanks a lot.
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by honmusa(m): 7:42am On Apr 27, 2017
captainking:
Oh my.. You just read my mind.. My location is Isolo.. Ire akari Estate... Please do you know anyone around that terrain?? Or can you help me out?? thanks a lot.
call /WhatsApp the number @ my signature
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by captainking(m): 8:12am On Apr 27, 2017
honmusa:

call /WhatsApp the number @ my signature
all right boss.. Wud do that..
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by Specialist900(m): 9:57am On Apr 27, 2017
Oga, car ish again? Make these cars respect themselves for once na


Hope you find solution soon
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by captainking(m): 10:53am On Apr 27, 2017
Specialist900:
Oga, car ish again? Make these cars respect themselves for once na


Hope you find solution soon
oga boss. I tire for the matter oo.. Car wey start.. Make I commot. The thing quench... Hahaha.. I must resolve it this week oo... Cos me and that car need waka this weekend..
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by Specialist900(m): 11:27am On Apr 27, 2017
captainking:
oga boss. I tire for the matter oo.. Car wey start.. Make I commot. The thing quench... Hahaha.. I must resolve it this week oo... Cos me and that car need waka this weekend..
I support any weekend waka o grin.

It has to be resolved bro.
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by captainking(m): 12:26pm On Apr 27, 2017
Specialist900:
I support any weekend waka o grin.

It has to be resolved bro.
am telling you bros,,...na me and all the gurus for nairaland ooo til my matter rest ,...no work on Monday nh
Re: Car Cranks But Not Start by BOLAUWA: 2:04pm On Apr 29, 2017
Greetings gurus. Pls recently my car (toyota camry pencil light automatic) broke down and refused to move. On putting it on drive or reverse, it makes a clanking sound. my mechanic said it was the gearbox, which I changed immediately. But after changing the gearbox, I have noticed the car refuses to accelerate beyond 80km /hr. I was told to clean d gearbox filter which I have done bt no improvement. Wat could be the problem? Ur advice really needed.

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