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Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by Depilot(m): 12:54am On Jan 06, 2010
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BLACKLISTING: Senate gives US 7-day ultimatum - Maduekwe meets US Envoy, says action unacceptable - Experts urge FG to seek AU, UN intervention - US must respect Nigeria - Ogwu - This is uncalled for - AC - Sever relations with US - Afe
From Taiwo Adisa, Bola Badmus, Kunle Oderemi, Adewale Ajayi, Muda Oyeniran, Ayodele Adesanmi, with Agency Reports - 06.01.2010

THE Senate, on Tuesday, issued a seven-day ultimatum to the United States of America (USA), within which it should remove Nigeria from its list of countries sponsoring terrorists or risk a diplomatic row.

The President of the Senate, David Mark, who issued the one-week ultimatum said that the Senate would meet in a closed session on January 12 to deliberate further on the situation.

Mark, who spoke through the Chairman, Senate Committee on Information and Media, Ayogu Eze, said that it was unfair for the US to have punished Nigeria for the activities that did not originate from its territory.

Senator Eze told media men on Tuesday: “I am sure that you have been observing the trend in the media and we are referring to the issue of America listing Nigeria as one of the 14 countries to be placed under watch.

“I am speaking on behalf of the Senate and on behalf of the Senate President to state categorically that we are very unhappy about the development and when we resume, we are going to take up this matter seriously if America has not taken Nigeria off that list.

“We also want to advise America that in their own best interest, they should conduct this matter very well in a manner that will not result in diplomatic row between America and Nigeria because the American president had, himself, clearly admitted that this was a failure of the system and manpower of Americans and I don’t see where Nigeria comes in there.

“Moreover, this is just one instance of a Nigerian who, it is clearly established, has no link with any fundamentalist group or any interest group within Nigeria, not even with his parents.

“This was a boy whose disappearance was reported to security agencies, the American authorities and all the relevant authorities and the Americans did nothing and for them to turn round to punish Nigerians for the sin of an isolated case like this is completely unacceptable to the Nigerian government and to the Nigerian Senate.

“We have also watched with keen interest several other breaches that have taken place since this boy’s attempt. There was an uninvited guest who went to the White House, he and his wife were found in the White House. That was not a Nigerian. America should look inward and search their souls, there is something wrong with their system and they should not punish Nigerians who are very law-abiding and good international citizens for the failure and irresponsibilities of American operatives, Nigeria will not take that.”

The US government had, on Monday, released a list of 14 countries to be placed under close watch as states sponsoring terrorism in the wake of the Christmas Day failed bomb attempt on a Detroit, Michigan, US-bound plane by a Nigerian, Umar Farouk Abdul-Mutallab.

Senator Eze said our citizens who returned from different destinations, especially those who from America, went through hell in order to meet their kith and kin for the Christmas break and the harrowing experience had scared a lot of them who were even afraid to return and some who were even afraid to originate their trips for genuine transaction in Ame-rica, adding that this must be stopped immediately.

“It is not America alone that has citizens to whom the government is responsible, we also have citizens and we are responsible to them. We will not allow Nigerians to be molested wherever they go.

“I think this message should be put out clearly. When we resume, if the situation is still there, it is going to be one of the major issues that we are going to tackle and the Senate President has told me to state categorically that he is unhappy about this, and, being the chairman of the National Assembly, it means also on behalf of the National Assembly,” Senator Eze stated.

House of Reps
Also, the House of Representatives, on Tuesday, described the US action as unwarranted and unfair.

Spokesman for the House, Honourable Eyibo Eseme, said this while reacting to US govern-ment’s action, following the arrest of Farouk Abdul-Mutallab, a Nigerian, for allegedly trying to blow a plane in the US.

The lawmaker asked the US to remove Nigeria’s name on the list, adding that “the earlier they delist Nigeria on the list or rescind from the decision to put us on the alert, the better for our diplomatic relations.”

Honourable Eyibo said the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the Federal Bureau for Investigation (FBI) and other security agencies in the United States might be guilty of some terrorist acts, giving the circumstance of the case at hand.

According to him, “it was possible that the US security agencies listed had accomplices with those that trained Abdul-Mutallab in Yemen.

“It is possible that they have accomplices with the guys that trained the boy in Yemen.

“If not, why didn’t they condemn Yemen? Why have they spared Yemen and are now condemning Nigeria?”

Professor Joy Ogwu
Nigeria's Permanent Representative to the United Nations (UN), Professor Joy Ogwu, has demanded that the US government respected Nigeria's position on terrorism.

“The country cannot be adjudged a terrorist country because of the misdeed of one man, the person in question neither received his training in Nigeria, nor grew up in the country,” Ugwu told the UN correspondent of the News Agency of Nigeria.

“Terrorism is alien to our culture and I can’t even find a word for it in my own native language,” she told NAN on Tuesday in New York.

Ogwu said the country’s media and, by extension, the government had a lot of work to do to counter the misleading negative concept about the country.

Ofonagoro, Mbu react
A former Minister of Information, Dr. Walter Ofonagoro and a one-time Minister of Foreign Affairs, Ambassador Matthew Mbu, on Tuesday, differed on the placement of Nigeria on a terror list by the US over the bothched attempt by Abdul-Mutallab to bomb an American airliner on Christmas Day.

While Mbu said the American government could not have done otherwise in view of the gravity of the matter, Ofona-goro believed the US went too far in taking the action.

Mbu said the action was justified because no responsible governmet would condone any act of terrorism.

Asked if the US should not have considered other factors before thinking of embarking on any tough measures over the foiled bombing, the elder statesman said “what has the US done? What has Nigeria done? What would you do if you were an American? Would you go to tea party with Nigeria or go to dinner after Mutallab’s explosion? Why are you asking me the obvious?

“To add more to our problems or compound the situation, what happened to AbdulMutallab is unfortunate and all Nigerians of good mind will certainly regret the unfortunate incident, because the power that be that are against Nigeria will use every excuse to punish innocent Nigerian travelling to their country.

“And my answer is that this is a warning to heartless Nigerian not to engage the country in a global warfare of hatred against their people.

However, Ofonagoro expressed total dissa-pointment with the US over the placement of Nigeria on the terror list, saying that Nigeria is a secular state.

“It is wrong for the US to have done that. Nigeria cannot be listed as a terrorist state because Nigeria is a secular state, since it does not belong to any particular religion and we are doing our very best to fight terrorism.

“I think it is completely unfair to classify Nigeria as a terrorist state. From media reports, we can see that Farouk’s father, Umaru Mutallab, went the extra mile to alert the US that his son was in bad company and this shows a good example of a responsible parent.

“How many men in America or Britain will report their own son as a potential terrorist? I think the man has done more than anybody can expect him to do to show that he is not in support of terrorism.

“What the US is saying by its pronouncement is that Nigeria has the potential for terrorism because of the Islamic fundamentalists in the country and the frequent religious riots. But I still insist that the US is being unfair to Nigeria because they cannot judge the whole country by the action of one young man.

“The implication of the US stand is that any Nigerian going to the US will first be stripped unclothed to make sure he is not having any weapon on him and they will also put Nigeria on their terrorist watch to know if the Islamic militants are now taking over the country,” he stated.

, Afe Babalola too
Eminent lawyer , Chief Afe Babalola, wants Nigeria to review its diplomatic relations with the United States.

Reacting to the listing of Nigeria on the terror list by Washington, after the arrest of Farouk Umar Mutallab for allegedly trying to bomb a plane in America, Chief Babalola described as “unjust and disturbing,” the classification of Nigeria as a country of dangerous people on account of one isolated incident.

”It is unfair and disturbing to use one single case against Nigeria. Citizens of other countries, including Americans and Britons, have been arrested for grievous offences around the world and only such individuals have been held accountable.

“One recalls the case of a British citizen executed recently in China for smuggling into that country a large consignment of cocaine. China did not blacklist Britain.

“It is more disturbing because the alleged offender has not been found guilty in the face of the law,”Chief Babalola argued.

, AC also reacts
The Action Congress (AC) has said that the US action was not necessary and what the country needed now was understanding and support from its international partners to root out religious extremists.

The party, in a statement issued in Lagos, on Tuesday, by its National Publicity Secretary, Alhaji Lai Mohammed, said Nigerians were victims of religious extremists who had engaged in killing, despoiling and maiming of thousands of innocent people over the years.

According to the AC, “Nigerians, most of whom are law-abiding and decent citizens, are now facing a double jeopardy — first from the misguided but few religious extremists among them and now from the US and other members of the international community seemingly intent on punishing all Nigerians for the sin of a few,” it added.

The AC said the Nigerian government itself must do its bit in making the country unattractive for global terrorism sponsors who are seeking to recruit willing folks to swell their ranks.

The party said if Nigeria was emerging as a recruiting ground for terrorists, it was because over the years, the government had not taken up the gauntlet of putting an end to the incessant religious crisis perpetrated by religious bigots and extremists, starting from the Maitatsine riots in the 1980s to Boko Haram and Kala-Kato in 2009.

Other Nigerians react
Experts told the News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) in Lagos, on Tuesday, that the profiling would not enhance relations between Nigeria and the US.

They urged Nigeria to do its best to save its citizens from unpalatable treatment resulting from the alleged offence of one Nigerian.

A former Nigerian High Commissioner to South Africa, Ambassador Olugbenga Ashiru, said Nigeria should urgently seek the intervention of the UN and African Union (AU) to secure an understanding by the US that Nigerians were not terrorists.

Ashiru described the alleged attempted bombing and the listing as unfortunate, especially with Nigeria’s re-branding efforts.

“It is unfortunate that an offence of a single Nigerian would now make many responsible Nigerians to go through demeaning experiences at airports.

“The US government should be made to understand that Nigeria is not known for terrorism; the UN and AU have a great responsibility here in safeguarding Nigerians travelling to the US,’’ he said.

Dr. Jamiu Oluwatoki of the Department of History and International Studies, Lagos State University (LASU), urged the US not to be harsh to Nigeria because of Abdul-Mutallab’s alleged crime.

Oluwatoki, however, urged Nigerians travelling to the US to be more security-conscious.

The lecturer noted that the US government had, since the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack on the World Trade Centre (WTC) in New York, been unilaterally fighting terrorism.

“With the situation on ground, Nigerians should be calm and be on the lookout, while the government evolves measures to safeguard them,” he advised.
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by Depilot(m): 12:59am On Jan 06, 2010
Forget our foolish leaders or our current unstable foundation and let's look deeply into the future; this move is very necessary.
I'll love to see more pressure.
Bravo!

Nigerians are crazy, but not terrorists. Nigerians are peaceful and loving people.
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by OAM4J: 1:15am On Jan 06, 2010
This is the time our President is highly needed to speak louder & more clearly on our behalf.

Unfortunately our president is no where to be found.
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by TPS360: 1:17am On Jan 06, 2010
seriously? grin
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by blacksta(m): 1:20am On Jan 06, 2010
Toothless house  - The list is here to stay  . Even the U,k have added us to their own list " axis of evil"
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by aieromon(m): 1:23am On Jan 06, 2010
Stupid leaders. angry angry angry
Are we not in the same country where the President ''signed'' the appropriation bill on his sick/death bed?
Why wasn't any ultimatum given for him to resign or officially hand over to his vice?
Sorry,i don't see any necessity in the move.
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by Nobody: 1:29am On Jan 06, 2010
Abegiii angry angry! if obama does,nt remove it nko? what will the senate president do, Abeg he cant do TRASH. ALL those leaders can go go an eat shit for all i care.
WHen they should all be sober and sitdown to move the nation forward.
nonsense. If we had a Patriotic President with the intrest of the nigerians at heart, He would have done something concerning this issue.
Rubbish, Trash angry
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by cantell(m): 1:35am On Jan 06, 2010
Ultimatum? I laugh in pidgin!
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by Beaf: 1:44am On Jan 06, 2010
BLACKLISTING: Senate gives US 7-day ultimatum - Maduekwe meets US Envoy, says action unacceptable - Experts urge FG to seek AU, UN intervention - US must respect Nigeria - Ogwu - This is uncalled for - AC - Sever relations with US - Afe
From Taiwo Adisa, Bola Badmus, Kunle Oderemi, Adewale Ajayi, Muda Oyeniran, Ayodele Adesanmi, with Agency Reports - 06.01.2010
THE Senate, on Tuesday, issued a seven-day ultimatum to the United States of America (USA), within which it should remove Nigeria from its list of countries sponsoring terrorists or risk a diplomatic row.

The President of the Senate, David Mark, who issued the one-week ultimatum said that the Senate would meet in a closed session on January 12 to deliberate further on the situation.

Talk about digging deeper when you are in trouble.
By placing us on the concerned countries list, the US has already signified in bold letters that they prepared to move things any level of notches higher. It is better to be diplomatic than issue ultimatums to a lion. David Mark is leading us down the wrong path in one of the surest signs of a leaderless country drifting in the wind.
This is the time that we need someone to pick the phone up and speak directly to Obama, but Yar Adua is missing and the North wouldn’t have a Southerner in Jonathan.

For decades now, we have had all sorts of horrible religious crisis in which lives and properties are lost. Very little (if anything) has ever been done, then by strange "coincidence" a suicide bomber turns out to be a Nigerian; at the time he fails at his suicide / mass murder bid, the president of the country is missing and there is nobody to take charge; the Attorney General actions seem to be pushing the nation toward a precipice; even worse, as the suicide bomber is failing, a religious upheaval (Kala-Kato) is claiming 70 lives in Bauchi.

Let us stop projecting our failings on the World. Diplomacy is better at this time, we need to get our problems in the presidency sorted and offer to work hand in hand with the US.

The Senate's reaction is another sign of a country, slipping needlessly and pointlessly at war with itself.
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by PapaBrowne(m): 1:47am On Jan 06, 2010
Tell those senators that we don't care one inch what they think.

We prefer to have Nigeria on U.S terror watch list, than have those failures as senators.

Na now them get mouth. chuwuuuushhtchh!!
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by largie(f): 1:49am On Jan 06, 2010
Those yeye fools will not cease to amaze me
''awon ode'Nigerian president got kidnapped over a month ago not one of them has a clue to it till date.other reasonable people are taking measures to protect their territory and citizens they are giving ultimatum.Ultimatum ko Consideration ni.Ultimatum that they should have been  given to turai and the first gentleman(yarädua) two years back.
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by vidibon200: 1:50am On Jan 06, 2010
Really? Ultimatum huh? Seems like someone's finally calling their bluff huh? Lets see wat happens anyway, If we break diplomatic ties, I just hope it does not affect more than wat d senate is anticipating, (e.g foreign investments in our economy) who knows?
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by adigun101: 1:56am On Jan 06, 2010
Let us face it, we have terrorist within us and they are Nigerians. There is Terror in Nigeria.
Let us remove sentiments.
People have been terrorised for ages in the North.
These culprits who can organise murder in cold blood in the name of religion after friday prayers are well capable of suicide bombing.
America don try for us for years. They have been partial to us.
This decision is late as far as im concerned.
Do you know how many murders have been committed in Nigeria since 9/11.
E don pass that of america.
Let us not be selfish. It is until you loose a loved one then you would know what I mean.

This has little to do with brainwashed Umar.
Looking at the amount of Islamic fundamentalism news coming out of Nigeria, it has already been classified as a nation of islamic extremists for a long time now.
It was only just made official.
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by Mekusxyz: 2:01am On Jan 06, 2010
Nigeria is taking the right step. If America fails to rescind its ill-advised decision, then Americans coming into Nigeria (and there are many of them) should receive the same treatment as Nigerians going into America. That is all we can do for now, but it is significant to have Americans patted down and searched like they do to us. This is reciprocal policy and it is pleasant in my mind.
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by presido1: 2:10am On Jan 06, 2010
So its yesterday those bunch of fools(senators) saw the list. This shows how incompetent they are, if its war that US waged on us they will retaliate after 3 days of heavy bombing.
Let see what they will do after one week if US did not back down which i doubt.
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by cold(m): 2:14am On Jan 06, 2010
I guess they're all thinkin abt how they'll be ordered to strip off all that agbada & face the scanners amongst other sub-human treatment.We brought this upon our selves after years of condoning religious extremism, the itch has turned into a deep rottening sore & now we're cryin foul-who are we foolin.All these talk abt blamin the iniquities of one man on a whole nation is nonsensical bcuz any right thinkin government wld do everythin within its powers to protect its citizenry & how is it posssible for to listed several countries as state sponsors of terrorism and leave out Nigeria when it was actually a nigerian that precipitated the process
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by trueword: 2:15am On Jan 06, 2010
So all of sudden the cabals actually "care" about the Nigerian people. wow!! One of the best acting jobs in a while.

grin grin grin This is hilarious. Who is the Nigerian senate to give ultimatums to the U.S. ?I would love to see just what the National Assembly will do after their 7 days. they not gonna do anything.  They can't even prevent other countries from harrassing Nigerians.


If they provoke the U.S. to take action, we need to U.S. to help us get rid of all the godfathers controlling Nigeria.

The only way we can really affect the U.S. is if we cut oil selling oil to them. But we all know these thieves wouldn't do that b/c they need the oil money.

Who knows, maybe all these events going on in Nigeria may be a blessing in disguise. So much chaos might be created that would then force action to be taken to bring true democracy and federalism or a separation of north and south,

lets watch and wait.
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by trueword: 2:26am On Jan 06, 2010
Mekusxyz:

Nigeria is taking the right step. If America fails to rescind its ill-advised decision, then Americans coming into Nigeria (and there are many of them) should receive the same treatment as Nigerians going into America. That is all we can do for now, but it is significant to have Americans patted down and searched like they do to us. This is reciprocal policy and it is pleasant in my mind.

This won't happen. If you have come through Nigerian airports you will notice that foreigners are treated more better than Nigerian citizens. Even if a directive is given, you know how naija is. Who going to enforce it?

Nigeria doesnt have enough influence to dictate anything to a superpower like the U.S.
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by paddylo1(m): 2:27am On Jan 06, 2010
“Terrorism is alien to our culture and I can’t even find a word for it in my own native language,”

this is quite true. . .terrorism is alien to nigerians
there is no word for it in my language

the israelis and arabs invented this suicide bombing nonsense. . .
i even read somewhere that the first known suicide bomber in the middle east was an israeli. . .
but thats a different matter

a lot of u guys on here are living in fantasy. . .perhaps u dont travel
the u.s must rescind its racist and unnecesarry decision immediately

if not i suggest the nigerian govt should move closer to china and if possible
help the chinese gain a foothold in nigerias oil industry at the expense of western companies
companies like CNOOC and petro-china are ready to come in with better deals for us
in terms of refineries and other infrastructure

thats the only thing the west understands. .hit them in the pockets
and play one superpower over another
nonsense
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by Nobody: 2:28am On Jan 06, 2010
largie:

Those yeye fools will not cease to amaze me
''awon ode'Nigerian president got kidnapped over a month ago not one of them has a clue to it till date.other reasonable people are taking measures to protect their territory and citizens they are giving ultimatum.Ultimatum ko Consideration ni.Ultimatum that they should have been  given to turai and the first gentleman(yarädua) two years back.

Dont mind them jare! All they know is to wear babariga and come to senate house and be talking rubbish and passing bills that will never come to the light of the day. If it is vehicle and furniture allowance, they will respond quikly. ODE angry
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by Beaf: 2:36am On Jan 06, 2010
paddy_lo:

this is quite true. . .terrorism is alien to nigerians
there is no word for it in my language

the israelis and arabs invented this suicide bombing nonsense. . .
i even read somewhere that the first known suicide bomber in the middle east was an israeli. . .
but thats a different matter

a lot of u guys on here are living in fantasy. . .perhaps u dont travel
the u.s must rescind its racist and unnecesarry decision immediately

if not i suggest the nigerian govt should move closer to china and if possible
help the chinese gain a foothold in nigerias oil industry at the expense of western companies
companies like CNOOC and petro-china are ready to come in with better deals for us
in terms of refineries and other infrastructure

thats the only thing the west understands. .hit them in the pockets
and play one superpower over another
nonsense


Who ever heard of a mouse playing two elephants against each other? In any event, there is only one superpower right now and its the US, China has a few decades to catch up in both military and economic terms; there can only be one winner in any face off.
Much worse for Nigeria if we attempt such a foolhardy policy, any country making itself a superpower battleground will be shredded beyond recognition (learn from Afghanistan vs USSR, which was really a proxy for USSR vs US).
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by paddylo1(m): 2:53am On Jan 06, 2010
Who ever heard of a mouse playing two elephants against each other? In any event, there is only one superpower right now and its the US, China has a few decades to catch up in both military and economic terms; there can only be one winner in any face off.
Much worse for Nigeria if we attempt such a foolhardy policy, any country making itself a superpower battleground will be shredded beyond recognition (learn from Afghanistan vs USSR, which was really a proxy for USSR vs US).

am not talking military but economic and business interests,so afghanistan does not apply here

besides china is as capitalist as they come,they are only communist in name
china needs resources and its oil companies are securing those resources around the world

while the reserves of western companies like exxon mobil is running low

obama is basically clueless anyway,this would never have happened under bush,
who visited nigeria and knows the importance of oil to americas economy
as oil prices continue to rise over $80 and higher,perhaps obama will come to his senses
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by SEFAGO(m): 2:58am On Jan 06, 2010
The US gets 11% of its oil from Nigeria. They would survive without it I can assure you. Nigeria cannot put them in an economic stalemate. No be the politician who dey enjoy oil money- you think they would let that go to prevent the "masses" from getting a pat down. If they could deal with other countries who prduce a larger share of their oil, they can deal with naija
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by Beaf: 3:06am On Jan 06, 2010
SEFAGO:

The US gets 11% of its oil from Nigeria. They would survive without it I can assure you. Nigeria cannot put them in an economic stalemate. No be the politician who dey enjoy oil money- you think they would let that go to prevent the "masses" from getting a pat down. If they could deal with other countries who prduce a larger share of their oil, they can deal with naija

They can indeed, deal with Naija, but that 11% they get from us is the highest quality crude in the World. It is by far the cheapest and least polluting to refine; in short, it is worth dying for.
So yes, they can deal with us, but judging from what we have to offer, it will either be with kid gloves or the full monty. There will be no grey areas, sadly putting us on the concerned countries list (a very harsh and alarming action) looks very much like the first steps toward the full monty.
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by trueword: 3:10am On Jan 06, 2010
paddy_lo:

am not talking military but economic and business interests,so afghanistan does not apply here

besides china is as capitalist as they come,they are only communist in name
china needs resources and its oil companies are securing those resources around the world

while the reserves of western companies like exxon mobil is running low

obama is basically clueless anyway,this would never have happened under bush,
who visited nigeria and knows the importance of oil to americas economy
as oil prices continue to rise over $80 and higher,perhaps obama will come to his senses



Maybe Obama actually wants Nigeria to live up to its potential. You remember the way he deliberately did not visit Nigeria on his trip to Africa. So I think he is sending another message to Nigeria to clean up its act.

I think Bush just cared about securing the oil in Nigeria and nothing else.
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by sjeezy8: 3:14am On Jan 06, 2010
Obama is brainless he just "looks good"  as a new "symbol" for the United states. No one has talked about his actions because they are too mesmerized, which takes away from good reasoning.

Oil in Nigeria is too important to make such a dumb move as of right now. The US govt are looking to other opec countries for oil but still has Nigeria as one of its major sources.

But the action could possibly be a move to counter act the recent admission of idiooot Rilwanu Lukman who said in a Washington DC press conference "Nigerian govt is looking toward the East India China etc to be major investors in Oil and petroleum" he also said " Nigerian govt wont increase prodution of bpd to meet US demands".

so . . . . . cant really blame US govt, Nigeria acted first by rilwanu talking reckless
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by SEFAGO(m): 3:32am On Jan 06, 2010
I doubt Nigerian Oil is that important or a major worry to the US. The only people who think so are Nigerians. Regardless, the US can act like this because they are confident that the Nija government just dey talk tough. You cannot bit the hand that feeds you- how many of these senate have children in the US? How man US politicians children are in Nigeria? Enough said. This is just paper talk.

Moreover, Exxon Mobil has already signed a deal to drill oil for a long time (I think, correct me if I am wrong). Naija government cannot renege on that agreement. The US in pretty good position. I am being realistic guys, I wish we had some clout but i doubt it. Let us just wait and see
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by becomrich16: 3:40am On Jan 06, 2010
The senate dones not understand how it works. Since a Nigerian have included Black List. If any other country do the same, they would join nigeria.

Even now what the senators do not know is that them and thier family member would have problem getting into the USA. Thier name may end up on a list. And they all would never be allowed to enter the USA, even thier children.

I think the senate and senators should offer an apology to the USA for what a nigerian did.
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by paddylo1(m): 3:52am On Jan 06, 2010
Maybe Obama actually wants Nigeria to live up to its potential. You remember the way he deliberately did not visit Nigeria on his trip to Africa. So I think he is sending another message to Nigeria to clean up its act.
ah yes the same obama that visited egypt,russia and saudi arabia. . .countries that dont have democracy or anything that smells close to it in their lands

at least in nigeria states like lagos,kano,edo and rivers are more democratic and free than saudi arabia or egypt

so spare me. . .i live here(but not for much longer thank god),so i am not impressed by american propaganda
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by Nobody: 4:12am On Jan 06, 2010
Those who think Nigeria can do nothing are thoroughly mistaken.

Nigeria could go the way of Venezuela if the political class are provoked enough. China is prepared to buy every last drop of oil we have, and their companies are knocking down our doors for drilling rights  AT BETTER TAX AND ROYALTY RATES THAN WESTERN MULTINATIONALS OFFER, while the western oil companies are trying to dig in their heels to protect their age-old unfair agreements.

Nigeria as a result of this will certainly accelerate her co-operation with CHINA, the country to which Americans owe their breakfast, lunch and dinner, since they produce nothing and live on debts.

The clock definitely is ticking for America.

Nigeria must not, and will not let this slide.
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by SEFAGO(m): 4:32am On Jan 06, 2010
So y'all have a new slave master. new dogs old tricks
Re: Senate Gives Obama's Admin 7-day Utimatum To Remove Nigeria From The Black List by Beaf: 4:39am On Jan 06, 2010
ROSSIKE:

Those who think Nigeria can do nothing are thoroughly mistaken.

Nigeria could go the way of Venezuela if the political class are provoked enough. China is prepared to buy every last drop of oil we have, and their companies are knocking down our doors for drilling rights  AT BETTER TAX AND ROYALTY RATES THAN WESTERN MULTINATIONALS OFFER, while the western oil companies are trying to dig in their heels to protect their age-old unfair agreements.

Nigeria as a result of this will certainly accelerate her co-operation with CHINA, the country to which Americans owe their breakfast, lunch and dinner, since they produce nothing and live on debts.

The clock definitely is ticking for America.

Nigeria must not, and will not let this slide.

So easy to say. . . Especially when you have no president. embarassed

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