bukatyne:
@Trudax:

Nice one.

I am happy I came across this thread; I am usually amazed when I see people parrot that our parents are better than we are (like they didn't train us )

I largely agree with the OP and have always said that Nigerian parents don't train their kids aka inculcate values they want replicated in their kids; they do fire brigade approach and excessively beat a child for doing something wrong.

Again, most people were never allowed to critucally think and were taught to obey in a zombie-like manner without critical thinking that's why a subservient subordinate can be a very brutal boss/master in the space of 2 mins.

Religion: same issue.... the problem is not with religion (how many people actually study their religious books); the issue is the cultural flavour of zombie-like obedience and suspension of critical thinking brought into it. Infact history tells us that most of the early fathers of science were very religious. Again, our religious leaders sell 'hope' in exchange for seed planting aka tithes, offerings, contributions etc.

Is the black race cursed? Maybe.... or how do you explain someone who has access to voodoo making his neighbor as poor as he is instead of making himself the wealthiest person in town?

connkg:
You see, my point is that parents try to prepare their children for the sort of world challenges they faced. This wouldn't work when the dynamics change so.
They were thinkers, which led to greater urbanisation and more privately-owned industries/SMEs than they met. Impact on banking, inter-tribal marriages, entrepreneurship, religion and manufacturing from their mould of Christianity-by-pious-practitioners, Civil Service-by-your-degree, etc.
I feel that because the youth of today do not think as a nation, do not think development, they will initiate child trainings to protect against (wrong use)Technology, "talent" identification (to the detriment of maturity) and anti (fraudulent) religious choices leaving nationhood to suffer. Such citizens will not think of the betterment of their society as much as that of themselves.
Same mistake, no curse.

Onegai:
The youth of Nigeria is a more extreme reflection of the youth of the world: largely ignorant, mostly vacuous and a determined hunger for a consumerist outlook of life. No matter where you go in the world, it's the same issue. Just that Nigeria's situation is more pathetic because of endemic poverty and poverty mentality. They are desperate to hold onto any form of success, be it an idiot.tic musician or an insipid winner of a talentless show.

It is only in Nigeria that I hear "oversabinus" and "I-too-know" being used as an insult to people whom are genuinely knowledgeable and others will be applauding. Seriously, it's actually a sin in Nigerian society to be smart, well-informed, you are accused swiftly of being prideful and blowing big grammar "How dare you attempt to reason differently??!!" is their motto.

It is only in Nigeria that your father tells you to never lie because Lying is wrong whilst he is getting dressed to go sleep with another woman whom is not his wife. Your parents tell you to read well and oh, here's money to settle your Lecturer. Then they are baffled by the corruption seeping in every aspect of life.

Even if you gave them all the books in the world, you have to challenge their minds from childhood. Our kids are taught to conform and not be great or not think too much. They are taught to be as mediocre as humanly possible. It is encouraged to a disturbingly high level.

Case in point: at Lekki Conservation Center is a tall ladder to a platform which shows you the top of all the trees. Anyone can climb it and it's not a difficult climb. Every single Nigerian, able-bodied or not, there refused to climb it. All the young men told their young girlfriends to be afraid because "they couldn't do it", a father told his older teenage daughter to "shut up and keep walking" when she wanted to try it. Meanwhile, foreigners of much older age were climbing up (heck some Chinese lady who could have been 100 years old scaled it). That's just a ladder to look at trees, how do you expect those people to hear you say "I am moving to a remote area to study Quantum Physics or Alignment of Stars" without them shrieking in horror and dragging you to church for deliverance and buying you JAMB form to study Accounting, Law or some other safe thing?

If I say "let me take my kids to Osogbo Festival/Eyo Festival", prayers warriors will descend on me. If I ask my child to question even the Pastor of a church, church people will descend on me. If I say "let us all plan a visit to the National Railway Museum in Lagos", absolutely no parent on NL will show up.

No-one wants to learn, no-one wants to be adventurous and nobody wants to take a risk. Therefore the only thing left to do is to stagnate. Which is where we are right now as a society. Which is why we keep producing slower children: you can't give what you don't have.

Trudax:
Authority complex
Many people wonder why Nigerians are so complacent with their leaders. How despite knowing the evils of their leaders, still sit back and allow them continue immiserating them. This kind of thing doesn't happen in the western world. But why in the 21st century aren't Nigerians doing anything about their own leadership problems? Well I think this problem ties back to the Nigerian home. In the average Nigerian home kids are thought to honour, respect and fear their parents. They aren't to talk back when their parents talk, they aren't to question their authority and they are to abide by all their instructions even if they are inconvenient for them. Doesn't this look familiar? People respond to future situations according to their original and foundational perception of such kind of environment. So, if a child is thought to fear and respect authority, even if it's inconvenient for him, he'll always fear and respect future forms of authority even if it's convenient for him.

Trudax:
No one read my writeup? Or you all agree with my views?

Onegai:
The youth of Nigeria is a more extreme reflection of the youth of the world: largely ignorant, mostly vacuous and a determined hunger for a consumerist outlook of life. No matter where you go in the world, it's the same issue. Just that Nigeria's situation is more pathetic because of endemic poverty and poverty mentality. They are desperate to hold onto any form of success, be it an idiot.tic musician or an insipid winner of a talentless show.

It is only in Nigeria that I hear "oversabinus" and "I-too-know" being used as an insult to people whom are genuinely knowledgeable and others will be applauding. Seriously, it's actually a sin in Nigerian society to be smart, well-informed, you are accused swiftly of being prideful and blowing big grammar "How dare you attempt to reason differently??!!" is their motto.

It is only in Nigeria that your father tells you to never lie because Lying is wrong whilst he is getting dressed to go sleep with another woman whom is not his wife. Your parents tell you to read well and oh, here's money to settle your Lecturer. Then they are baffled by the corruption seeping in every aspect of life. They crack jokes about how comfortable they are with molestation and rape of adults but are horrified when a toddler gets raped (no shi.t, Sherlock). They say we are godly and disturb your ears with their houses of worship but put up a story of a junior person stealing from his/her boss or even killing them and watch how the victim is blamed, with no evidence. They all want to live well, have savings and have an iPhone at 18. The girls want to look nice but are fine with your husband paying for it, it's not "their fault married men chase them and they cannot say No". The boys all want natural beauties...as yellow and weaved-on as possible, with a sprinkle of foreign accent and a wealthy Daddy. No-one's parents are asking "how did you pay for your last trip to UK??" they are just delighted their kids are "doing well".

And everyone walks about, perplexed why the society is so rotten.

Even if you gave them all the books in the world, you have to challenge their minds from childhood. Our kids are taught to conform and not be great or not think too much. They are taught to be as mediocre as humanly possible. It is encouraged to a disturbingly high level.

Case in point: at Lekki Conservation Center is a tall ladder to a platform which shows you the top of all the trees. Anyone can climb it and it's not a difficult climb. Every single Nigerian, able-bodied or not, there refused to climb it. All the young men told their young girlfriends to be afraid because "they couldn't do it", a father told his older teenage daughter to "shut up and keep walking" when she wanted to try it. Meanwhile, foreigners of much older age were climbing up (heck some Chinese lady who could have been 100 years old scaled it). That's just a ladder to look at trees, how do you expect those people to hear you say "I am moving to a remote area to study Quantum Physics or Alignment of Stars" without them shrieking in horror and dragging you to church for deliverance and buying you JAMB form to study Accounting, Law or some other safe thing?

If I say "let me take my kids to Osogbo Festival/Eyo Festival", prayers warriors will descend on me. If I ask my child to question even the Pastor of a church, church people will descend on me. If I say "let us all plan a visit to the National Railway Museum in Lagos", absolutely no parent on NL will show up.

No-one wants to learn, no-one wants to be adventurous and nobody wants to take a risk. Therefore the only thing left to do is to stagnate. Which is where we are right now as a society. Which is why we keep producing slower children: you can't give what you don't have.

Trudax:
Child birth
Nothing illuminates the intellectual vacuousness of Nigerian parents like the reasons for which they have kids. The average Nigerian parent doesn't have kids because they understand what it means to have kids and they understand the responsibility of having kids.They have kids for the same reasons dogs and chickens have kids - Because it's their basic animal instinct to procreate. And thanks to our foolish cultural notions that define having kids as an accomplishment, this basal instinct is reinforced.

Now how would you raise a child well if you prioritize the fact that you have a child and the enhancement of your social image over the serious responsibility of raising another human being? You see, this is where the problem starts. If kids are raised by parents who don't know the implications of raising a child, how then would they put the necessary tools in place to enable the mental, psychological and physical flourishing of the child? Most Nigerian parents who don't even have enough money to fend for themselves would still decide to have children with the hope that they can train the children in school so they can rescue them from poverty. Isn't this stupidity? Doesn't this represent a paucity of intellect?

The primary traits of a child are formed in the early stages of the child's development. If the right variables aren't in place, it could not only shift the child's development to the negative, but it could trigger negative predispositions that would not have otherwise been triggered.

megareal:


Religion becomes the solution to every problem; even those that you can easily solve. Total dependence on religion to solve the most mundane of problems has rendered most people brain dead.

Gerrard59:



I said same here:
https://www.nairaland.com/3450586/poor-un-intelligent-people-should-not

My prognosticating skills never fails.

At the topic: A lot has been said and to say I'm happy seeing a thread as is an understatement. Well done everyone.




Messrs Mmsen, AreaFada2 and Woodcook. I know you will love this thread. Please your inputs will be appreciated.

tensazangetsu20:
I don't think there is anyone who hates Nigeria as much as I do but please you guys should cool down on some of the lies.

There are Nigerians doing great things, if you have kids and you want to push them to their limits there are schools in Nigeria to do that. We have loyola, rainbow college etc. This schools keep on sending Nigerians to ivy leagues schools every year.

We have Nigerians all around the world who are distingushing themselves in their various fields be it engineering, law or medicine.

If you didn't succeed in your life, you have yourself to blame. India is a shitty country but Indians are all over the world doing extraordinary things.

Trudax:

So sorry, trudax, they can never see it in that way, because very few people possess that kind of deep thought when it comes to reasoning and brainstorming which is mainly peculiar to mostly introverts. When I was young, I think alot... Like, where do people came from, who created us, who is God, who created God, are there other people elsewhere just like us? It goes on and on like that, and then I will suddenly get so scary, chills from within and then I dismiss that thought and I was around 4yrs during this period. So, back to your question. Only some certain individuals have that level of abstract deep thinking faculty in them... Unfortunately, the society we live in doesn't favors it, they find a way possible to suppress such deep level of thinking at all cost. Thumbs up, I love your post @trudax
I love your post. I am actually surprised that there are people in this country who share my views.

Have you ever wondered why in Nigeria when someone makes a claim, the common response you will get is: Who told you? It's never why: Why do you think so?
This represents a cultural history that has repressed the act of questioning. How would a society move forward when the act of questioning, which is the bedrock of change and invention is rebuked right from the home?
When I was younger I used to always think a lot, and whenever I would be engage in serious thought about something I observed or something I read, my dad would walk into my room and tell me that I should stop thinking and go and play with my friends. In Nigeria only people who have problems are supposed to think.

You are so on point with what you said about being knowledgeable. I was having a conversation with a friend a week ago and we were talking about the popular entertainment gist and she was enjoying the convo and contributing excitedly, but when I drifted the conversation into abstract subjects, she lost interest, saying I was boring her like her lecturers used to and I was using too much big grammar.

Even if our foundation is bad, can't common sense show people the usefulness of acquiring knowledge, developing the act of critical, independent thinking and open mindedness? I mean, no one told me this. And I bet no one told you too. Why can't the majority see it?