AyamConfidence:
Being narrow minded is bad for you oga

Learn to discuss with an open mind...you'll learn new things and be a better human

AyamConfidence:
Being narrow minded is bad for you oga

Learn to discuss with an open mind...you'll learn new things and be a better human

oneolajire:
Why are Jehovah Witnesses afraid of hell/lake of fire?

Each time you tell a JW member that God will send sinners to hell/lake of fire, they protest as if Jesus didn't talk about it. 

They ask "can you send people to hell if they are your family members"?  They quote Jer 32 vs 35 to defend themselves. 

But the question is, did God allow Sodom and Gomorah to be destroyed by fire? Did God destroy the world during the days of Noah? If yes, God can and will make sinners perish in hell/lake of fire

Matt 25 vs 41 Jesus talks about those whom hell/everlasting fire was originally designed for. Rev 20 vs 15 tells us some humans too will go to lake of fire. 

So why are Jw's taking Jesus for a liar? What are they afraid of? They should stop peddling lies and accept Jesus as their saviour if they don't want to end up in hell/lake of fire.

For more on the LIES of JW's read my write -up by following the link below 

https://www.nairaland.com/3328303/16-terrible-lies-jehovah-witnesses

solutionsnow:




As old as you are, you are still fighting the truth! God will shine his light on you to know the truth of the gospel.

AyamConfidence:
who be this one again??

solutionsnow:



The one who tells you the truth.

AyamConfidence:
oga gerout joor

oneolajire:
[s]Why are Jehovah Witnesses afraid of hell/lake of fire?

Each time you tell a JW member that God will send sinners to hell/lake of fire, they protest as if Jesus didn't talk about it. 

They ask "can you send people to hell if they are your family members"?  They quote Jer 32 vs 35 to defend themselves. 

But the question is, did God allow Sodom and Gomorah to be destroyed by fire? Did God destroy the world during the days of Noah? If yes, God can and will make sinners perish in hell/lake of fire

Matt 25 vs 41 Jesus talks about those whom hell/everlasting fire was originally designed for. Rev 20 vs 15 tells us some humans too will go to lake of fire. 

So why are Jw's taking Jesus for a liar? What are they afraid of? They should stop peddling lies and accept Jesus as their saviour if they don't want to end up in hell/lake of fire.

For more on the LIES of JW's read my write -up by following the link below 

https://www.nairaland.com/3328303/16-terrible-lies-jehovah-witnesses[/s]

joyandfaith:

and people like you that preach hell fire commit sins more than Satan. Destruction by fire is different from burning people in hell fire for life.

jonbellion:
Well it's obvious na
Only brainwashed fools will believe in hellfire
The funny thing about the idiotic doctrine is that even if you were a terrible person in your lifetime you can just mumble a few words of repentance on your deathbed and you'd enter sugar candy land and even if you were a normal law abiding good hearted citizen but did not acknowledge the christian God you would go to hell for all eternity
Smh
You must have half a brain to believe judgement like this is just

jonbellion
post=56832726:
start using your brain. They are not afraid it just makes no sense and is not moral or just in any way you want to imagine it
The Christian population of the world is 30%
So you mean people that did not believe in Jesus Christ (70% of the world) would burn forever in eternal anguish

oneolajire:







You have heard the gospel, you have options to accept or reject. But it will do you good when you accept the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.  ‎

jonbellion:
you didn't answer
The christian population is 30%
Do you believe 70% of humanity is going to burn forever since they aren't christians and do you believe it makes sense?

oneolajire:


Making sense is not the matter. God said it, you are checking your senses, who gave you the senses? Asking if it makes sense is asking God if his word makes sense.
All you need is to believe God's word and get yourself free from everlasting tornment.

oneolajire:



Good comment. But you avoided telling where the bible says the devil would end his journey.


You avoided the fact that the bible says that some would end up in Hell/lake of fire. 

You had better accept the truth and stop seeking those who sin more than the devil cos you can't find one. 

Embrace the truth before it is too late‎

oneolajire:






There is nothing you can do to change the truth, but the truth can change you

Peacefullove:


which truth , hehehehehe its all in your head.

if You dont exist before you were conceived, How then are you gonna continue to exist after you are DEAD! think.

joyandfaith:

and people like you that preach hell fire commit sins more than Satan. Destruction by fire is different from burning people in hell fire for life.

JusticeSeeker:
which one is destruction by fire? as a JW or anyone who denies Christ or His teachings, you shall eternally burn in the lake of fire. that's the scriptures and Jesus' saying

Nostradamus:
absolutely logical!!! I love this.

Peacefullove:


which truth , hehehehehe its all in your head.

if You dont exist before you were conceived, How then are you gonna continue to exist after you are DEAD! think.

oneolajire:



‎
One thing you guys don't want to realise is that humans are SPIRIT beings whose housing or casing is his body/flesh. When man dies, his sheds his casing or flesh, the spirit is eternal. I Thes 5:23. Philippians 1 vs 20-24. 

[s]

Yea, you do not exist before you were born, but you will fully realise your existence after death. God knew you before you were formed, he knew you will doubt him. He knew you will argue argue about this topic. 



The occults know that life is spiritual, so they control life from the spiritual realm. They control humans (people who don't accept Jesus) to do immoral things and do evil. They know there is life after death.

Most atheist are from christian backgrounds who feel God's laws are cumbersome. They feel God is unreasonable. What a pity! That Is why they argue from the bible point. God is never bothered, cos he knows those people will regret at the end.    ‎




Repent before it is too late
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oneolajire:



‎
One thing you guys don't want to realise is that humans are SPIRIT beings whose housing or casing is his body/flesh. When man dies, his sheds his casing or flesh, the spirit is eternal. I Thes 5:23. Philippians 1 vs 20-24. 



Yea, you do not exist before you were born, but you will fully realise your existence after death. God knew you before you were formed, he knew you will doubt him. He knew you will argue argue about this topic. 



The occults know that life is spiritual, so they control life from the spiritual realm. They control humans (people who don't accept Jesus) to do immoral things and do evil. They know there is life after death.

Most atheist are from christian backgrounds who feel God's laws are cumbersome. They feel God is unreasonable. What a pity! That Is why they argue from the bible point. God is never bothered, cos he knows those people will regret at the end.    ‎




Repent before it is too late

oneolajire:



‎
One thing you guys don't want to realise is that humans are SPIRIT beings whose housing or casing is his body/flesh. When man dies, his sheds his casing or flesh, the spirit is eternal. I Thes 5:23. Philippians 1 vs 20-24. 



Yea, you do not exist before you were born, but you will fully realise your existence after death. God knew you before you were formed, he knew you will doubt him. He knew you will argue argue about this topic. 



The occults know that life is spiritual, so they control life from the spiritual realm. They control humans (people who don't accept Jesus) to do immoral things and do evil. They know there is life after death.

Most atheist are from christian backgrounds who feel God's laws are cumbersome. They feel God is unreasonable. What a pity! That Is why they argue from the bible point. God is never bothered, cos he knows those people will regret at the end.    ‎




Repent before it is too late

oneolajire:



Good comment. But you avoided telling where the bible says the devil would end his journey.


You avoided the fact that the bible says that some would end up in Hell/lake of fire. 

You had better accept the truth and stop seeking those who sin more than the devil cos you can't find one. 

Embrace the truth before it is too late‎

Peacefullove:


all the xmas Chickens you people killed must be enjoying right now in heaven since what dies is just their flesh NOT their spirit. spirit is eternal i guess

Are you now telling us that what died is just the flesh. NOT the actual human ?

going by this logic ... do u agree then that Jesus did not die for anybody, he was a Spirit being ( since humans are Spirit beings ) . only his flesh/cover/casing dies ?

I WIll Gladly await your response to this vital point.




I said HUMANS and not ANIMALS ‎are spirit beings. Animals have no spirits. Animals end here on earth, no hell nor heaven for them cos they do not posess spirits. ‎

Jesus was/is a spirit being, born into the world to carry flesh (human). When he died, his body died, like other humans.‎

Jesus died for everyone, those who believe in his atonement are saved. Your opinion does does not make this ineffective. 


‎ is the OPPOSITE of being Alive ?

joyandfaith:


hell fire is different from lake of fire. hell fire is not in Bible. lake of fire means second dead. hell is another word for grave.

The lake of fire is a symbol of eternal destruction. It is the same as Gehenna, but it is different from hell, which is the common grave of mankind.
Not a literal lake
The five Bible verses that mention “the lake of fire” show it to be a symbol rather than a literal lake. ( Revelation 19:20; 20:10, 14, 15; 21:8 ) The following are cast into the lake of fire:
The Devil. ( Revelation 20:10 ) As a spirit creature, the Devil cannot be harmed by literal fire.
—Exodus 3:2; Judges 13:20 .
Death. ( Revelation 20:14 ) This is not a literal entity but represents a state of inactivity, the absence of life . ( Ecclesiastes 9:10 ) Death cannot literally be burned.
“The wild beast” and “the false prophet.” ( Revelation 19:20 ) Since these are symbols, doesn’t it seem reasonable to conclude that the lake they are thrown into is also a symbol?
—Revelation 13:11, 12; 16:13 .
A symbol of eternal destruction
The Bible says that the lake of fire “means the second death.” ( Revelation 20:14; 21:8 ) The first kind of death mentioned in the Bible resulted from Adam’s sin. This death can be reversed by resurrection and will eventually be eliminated by God.— 1 Corinthians 15:21, 22, 26 .
The lake of fire represents a different, or second, kind of death. Although it too represents a state of total inactivity, it is different in that the Bible says nothing about a resurrection from the second death. For example, the Bible says that Jesus has “the keys of hell and of death,” showing that he has the authority to release people from the death brought by Adam’s sin. ( Revelation 1:18; 20:13 ,
King James Version) However, neither Jesus nor anyone else has a key to the lake of fire. That symbolic lake represents eternal punishment in the form of permanent destruction.—
2 Thessalonians 1:9 .
Identical to Gehenna, the Valley of Hinnom
Gehenna (Greek geʹen·na ) is mentioned 12 times in the Bible. Like the lake of fire, it is a symbol of eternal destruction. Although some translations render this word as “hell,” Gehenna is different from hell ( Hebrew sheʼohlʹ, Greek haiʹdes ).
The word “Gehenna” literally means “Valley of Hinnom,” referring to a valley just outside Jerusalem. In Bible times, the city residents used this valley as a garbage dump. They kept a fire constantly burning there to destroy refuse; maggots consumed anything that the fire did not reach.
Jesus used Gehenna as a symbol of everlasting destruction. ( Matthew 23:33 ) He said that in Gehenna “the maggot does not die and the fire is not put out.” ( Mark 9:
47, 48) He thus alluded to the conditions in the Valley of Hinnom and also to the prophecy at Isaiah 66:24 , which says: “They will go out and look on the carcasses of the men who rebelled against me; for the worms on them will not die, and their fire will not be extinguished.” Jesus’ illustration describes, not torture, but complete annihilation. The worms and fire consume carcasses, or dead bodies, not living people.
The Bible gives no indication of any return from Gehenna. “The lake of fire” and “the fiery Gehenna” both represent permanent, everlasting destruction.— Revelation 20:14, 15; 21:8; Matthew 18:9 .
How “tormented day and night forever and ever”?
If the lake of fire is a symbol of destruction, why does the Bible say that in it the Devil, the wild beast, and the false prophet “will be tormented day and night forever and ever”? ( Revelation 20:10 ) Consider four reasons why this torment does not refer to literal torture:
1. For the Devil to be tortured eternally, he would have to be kept alive forever. However, the Bible says that he will be brought to nothing, or put out of existence.— Hebrews 2:
14.
2. Everlasting life is a gift from God, not a punishment.— Romans 6:23 .
3. The wild beast and the false prophet are symbols and cannot experience literal torture.
4. The context of the Bible indicates that the torment of the Devil is everlasting restraint or destruction.
The word used for “torment” in the Bible can also mean “a condition of restraint.” For example, the Greek word for “tormentors” used at Matthew 18:34 is rendered as “jailers” in many translations, showing the connection between the words “torment” and “restraint.” Likewise, the parallel accounts at Matthew 8:29 and Luke 8:30, 31 equate “torment” with “the abyss,” a figurative place of complete inactivity or death. ( Romans 10:7; Revelation 20:1, 3 ) In fact, several times the book of Revelation uses the word “torment” in a symbolic sense.— Revelation 9:5; 11:10; 18:7, 10.

oneolajire:


Making sense is not the matter. God said it, you are checking your senses, who gave you the senses? Asking if it makes sense is asking God if his word makes sense.
All you need is to believe God's word and get yourself free from everlasting tornment.

Immorttal:
then your god is not being rational.