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Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Nobody: 5:46pm On Jan 14, 2010
Absolute waste of time. I'm more perturbed by claims that Port Au Prince has no functioning hospital at present, no earth-moving vehicles for rescue operations, no roads, no emergency rescue services.

Donating "relief supplies" will not help Haiti stand on her two feet. It simply perpetuates the long-held opinion that blacks are in every sense inferior to other races.
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by SeanT21(f): 5:47pm On Jan 14, 2010
blandyne:

THANKS A LOT TO ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It feels good to know that the nigerian people are thinking of us. You guys were ahead of me and are already posted all the links to where we can donate. Thanks Outstrip, SeanT21 and everyone else. Every little bit counts, and also we need your prayers. Please help us pray, As we all can see, it's really bad and we need those prayers more than ever. , This morning i learned that my little cousin died, he was only 8 years old. REST IN PEACE THIERRY I know that you are with GOD our FATHER right now.

You are welcome. RIP to that little angel. Gone too soon. cry I am keeping your country people in my prayers.
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Nobody: 5:47pm On Jan 14, 2010
davidylan:

Absolute waste of time. I'm more perturbed by claims that Port Au Prince has no functioning hospital at present, no earth-moving vehicles for rescue operations, no roads, no emergency rescue services.

Donating "relief supplies" will not help Haiti stand on her two feet. It simply perpetuates the long-held opinion that blacks are in every sense inferior to other races.

So they should all die?
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Nobody: 5:49pm On Jan 14, 2010
stillwater:

So they should all die?

they had ample chance to prepare for such disaster.
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Allta(m): 5:52pm On Jan 14, 2010
davidylan:

they had ample chance to prepare for such disaster.
Don't be such an heartless being ,  if UK experience the biggest Earthquake in 200yrs, international aid units will come to the rescue, even USA self, so why should Haiti or God forbid Nigeria be any different?

I wonder what your comment will be if you were to be from Haiti. This is not about inferior vs superior, it's about saving the lives of those left dying of hunger, knowing fully well that the govt aren't capable to cater for the situation.

You just come across as a type that wouldn't give a beggar or needy help/money/food because they should have gone to school and studied their ways through university shey? Bros, please change that your ideology, it's not healthy for mankind
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Nobody: 5:56pm On Jan 14, 2010
davidylan:

they had ample chance to prepare for such disaster.

Not a good reason to forsake the poor in time of need. undecided
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by JOSEPHOKO(m): 5:59pm On Jan 14, 2010
even we in nigeria need much more relief material.plenty stomachquake dey happen for ordinary nigerian stomach
Because una no see their stomach abi? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL NA TRU SHA
grin grin grin
See my fuckin big teeths
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Nobody: 5:59pm On Jan 14, 2010
Allta:

Don't be such an heartless being ,  if UK experience the biggest Earthquake in 200yrs, international aid units will come to the rescue, even USA self, so why should Haiti or God forbid Nigeria be any different?

I wonder what your comment will be if you were to be from Haiti. This is not about inferior vs superior, it's about saving the lives of those left dying of hunger, knowing fully well that the govt aren't capable to cater for the situation.

You just come across as a type that wouldn't give a beggar or needy help/money/food because they should have gone to school and studied their ways through university shey? Bros, please change that your ideology, it's not healthy for mankind

I understand your sentiments . . . but unfortunately you are wide off the mark. If UK experienced an 8.0 earthquake, they WILL survive WITHOUT aid because as a society they are well prepared to deal with such. Why are nations with majority negroid races always portrrayed as poor, starving and unable to survive without white support? Is it a coincidence that the poorest nation in the western hemisphere is a predominantly black nation? Haiti shares the same island with the Dominican republic but that country is FAR FAR advanced compared to Haiti.
Why is Haiti so poor and nothing more than a clone of Niger Republic?

Will relief supplies rebuild the Haitian economy? Will it provide essential services like hospitals, good roads, rescue services and jobs?
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by SeanT21(f): 6:00pm On Jan 14, 2010
davidylan:

Absolute waste of time. I'm more perturbed by claims that Port Au Prince has no functioning hospital at present, no earth-moving vehicles for rescue operations, no roads, no emergency rescue services.

Donating "relief supplies" will not help Haiti stand on her two feet. It simply perpetuates the long-held opinion that blacks are in every sense inferior to other races.

Of course it is a waste of time to you. After all, you are sitting from the comfort of your home in New York. If you were that little boy weeping on the street unaided, you won’t be writing all this.
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Nobody: 6:00pm On Jan 14, 2010
stillwater:

Not a good reason to forsake the poor in time of need. undecided

the poor ye have with you always.
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by oyb(m): 6:02pm On Jan 14, 2010
davidylan:

they had ample chance to prepare for such disaster.

unprepared good for nothings - they deserve to go extinct lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Nobody: 6:03pm On Jan 14, 2010
SeanT21:

Of course it is a waste of time to you. After all, you are sitting from the comfort of your home in New York. If you were that little boy weeping on the street unaided, you won’t be writing all this.

I am grateful for my position in life . . . but i am more worried about how this reinforces the negative stereotype that blacks have an inherently inferior nature to other races.
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by SeanT21(f): 6:03pm On Jan 14, 2010
davidylan:

I understand your sentiments . . . but unfortunately you are wide off the mark. If UK experienced an 8.0 earthquake, they WILL survive WITHOUT aid because as a society they are well prepared to deal with such. Why are nations with majority negroid races always portrrayed as poor, starving and unable to survive without white support? Is it a coincidence that the poorest nation in the western hemisphere is a predominantly black nation? Haiti shares the same island with the Dominican republic but that country is FAR FAR advanced compared to Haiti.
Why is Haiti so poor and nothing more than a clone of Niger Republic?

Will relief supplies rebuild the Haitian economy? Will it provide essential services like hospitals, good roads, rescue services and jobs?

You are thinking way too much into this. No one is trying to build the Haitian economy. They are basically trying to help those displaced and injured people.
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Nobody: 6:05pm On Jan 14, 2010
I am often left to wonder . . . is there ANY nation on earth with a black majority that is not a dirt-poor third world nation? What is wrong with us?
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Nobody: 6:05pm On Jan 14, 2010
davidylan:

the poor ye have with you always.

Mark 14:7
"For you always have the poor with you, and whenever you wish you can do good to them; but you do not always have Me.

Deuteronomy 15:11
For the poor will never cease to be in the land; therefore I command you, saying, 'You shall freely open your hand to your brother, to your needy and poor in your land.'


















tongue
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by SeanT21(f): 6:06pm On Jan 14, 2010
davidylan:

I am grateful for my position in life . . . but i am more worried about how this reinforces the negative stereotype that blacks have an inherently inferior nature to other races.

True but that is for another day.
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Nobody: 6:12pm On Jan 14, 2010
stillwater:

Mark 14:7
"For you always have the poor with you, and whenever you wish you can do good to them; but you do not always have Me.

Deuteronomy 15:11
For the poor will never cease to be in the land; therefore I command you, saying, 'You shall freely open your hand to your brother, to your needy and poor in your land.'

I'm sick and tired of the poor always being BLACK!
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Allta(m): 6:20pm On Jan 14, 2010
Davidylan, look , I beg to disagree with you that UK will "reject" international aids support when offered if they have 8.0 earthquake. Besides, that's not my point, you will never have a situation where every countries in the world are at par wealth wise. And emphatically speaking, not only black nations are poor countries in the world, go check your CIA records for more information.

This is not about potraying a race as poor nation, this is about saving lifes, whether white or black, if you care for that your dying neighbor, you will do everything you can to give what is needed to save their life, esp when you have what is needed.

What about the Sichuan earthquake in 2008, China? Abi China be black country? and did they refuse the international aids sent them? How about the International reaction to the 2009 Victorian bushfires in Australia, I don't even wanna spend time to look into countries like USA and UK, my point is, international response to helping natural disaster victims esp. when there is huge number of casualties, has no bearing with the colour of the skin of the people in the country or the valuation of their GDP. So the fact that the whole world rose to help the tsunami victims in India doesn't make India a black country in need of peanuts from the 1st world countries.
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Nobody: 6:28pm On Jan 14, 2010
Allta:

Davidylan, look , I beg to disagree with you that UK will "reject" international aids support when offered if they have 8.0 earthquake.

You're disagreeing with yourself because i never alluded to that . . . go back and read posts carefully before making unfounded allegations.

Allta:

Besides, that's not my point, you will never have a situation where every countries in the world are at par wealth wise. And emphatically speaking, not only black nations are poor countries in the world, go check your CIA records for more information.

This is not about potraying a race as poor nation, this is about saving lifes, whether white or black, if you care for that your dying neighbor, you will do everything you can to give what is needed to save their life, esp when you have what is needed.

What about the Sichuan earthquake in 2008, China? Abi China be black country? and did they refuse the international aids sent them? How about the International reaction to the 2009 Victorian bushfires in Australia, I don't even wanna spend time to look into countries like USA and UK, my point is, international response to helping natural disaster victims esp. when there is huge number of casualties, has no bearing with the colour of the skin of the people in the country or the valuation of their GDP. So the fact that the whole world rose to help the tsunami victims in India doesn't make India a black country in need of peanuts from the 1st world countries.

Good points . . . but they are not germane to the issue i was raising. The Sichuan earthquake in China, as devastating as it was, did not leave the Chinese completely helpless and dependent on foreign aid for mere survival. Haiti was already a disaster area heavily dependent on foreign aid way before the earthquake struck. Its just that many of you are only realising it today. Where were you when that 8 yr old boy had to go to bed hungry or eat cakes made from mud?

why are you all now crying about relief now? Haiti needed relief WAY BEFORE the earthquake.
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Allta(m): 6:28pm On Jan 14, 2010
@Davidylan Hope you get my point, the fact that you paid for your neighbor's hospital bills when sick doesn't mean you're trying to make him rich or that you can now boast of saying your neighbor is eating your wealth to get wealthier themselves.

Like someone else earlier said, no one is sayin build Haiti economy, just save the life of those that are finding it hard to see water to drink right now, not to talk of food to eat.

And about black countries being poor, it's down to leadership I believe, both from the past up till date. I wanna believe slave trade had it's impact then. But, let's now go to the past, at least Equitorial Guniea is an African country and one of the richest countries in the world! I'm not disputing your point, you're spot on, but please this has nothing to do with skin color, it's about saving lifes not bragging rights
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Allta(m): 6:33pm On Jan 14, 2010
davidylan:

You're disagreeing with yourself because i never alluded to that . . . go back and read posts carefully before making unfounded allegations.

Good points . . . but they are not germane to the issue i was raising. The Sichuan earthquake in China, as devastating as it was, did not leave the Chinese completely helpless and dependent on foreign aid for mere survival. Haiti was already a disaster area heavily dependent on foreign aid way before the earthquake struck. Its just that many of you are only realising it today. Where were you when that 8 yr old boy had to go to bed hungry or eat cakes made from mud?

why are you all now crying about relief now? Haiti needed relief WAY BEFORE the earthquake.

I'm not disagreeing with myself, but, you did mention that UK could survive on its own without recourse to international aid. I agree, but also, they wouldn't refuse if arms of aid were to be offered.

In any case, we shouldn't be arguing about whether Haiti deserves international aids or not while 100s are dying of hunger out there, so bros biko, help join the aid, at least tell those who can to donate. And please, if you find your neighbour who has refused to be rich dying, I beg you, don't close your eyes to save them if you can.

As for me, I rest my case and wanna spend more time helping peeps who need it rather than arguing , you get me?
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Divinechoc(f): 6:34pm On Jan 14, 2010
It kills me to read some of the negative comments made about such disastrous event. This can happen to anyone and I happen to have a few Haiti's friends (one of them is missing about 25 family members) You are not obligated to help those in need but please, keep the negative remarks to yourself.

Meanwhile for those who are donating, please beware of scams, only donate to credible organizations (such as Red Cross or YELE)! Also, you can go to www.cnn.com/impact to see how you can help! and to all those doing something about this, May God reward you abundantly!!
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by platinumnk(f): 6:37pm On Jan 14, 2010
@David- I am really appalled at your reasoning, you want people to continue to die because of your arrogance?
Its really nice you're arent the ones looking for your family.

At the Haitian who posted earlier, May God be your comfort at this time.
Im still waiting on my friends report on her family there. .   embarassed embarassed embarassed

For those outside The United States :

Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Nobody: 6:38pm On Jan 14, 2010
I wonder when all this self-righteous requests for "aid" will end and we start asking nations to stand up and take responsibility for their own. I for one see no reason why Haiti has such a beautiful presidential "palace" but has only one hospital with no facilities, no electricity, no food, no roads, no emergency services.

You can keep donating if you wish . . . i will save my money for those who truly deserve it. If that makes me wicked then so be it.

Members of the negroid race have to stand up and decide they will NO LONGER be the scourge of the earth anymore. I get sick watching TV and seeing blacks being the ones everyone has to feed.
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by platinumnk(f): 6:42pm On Jan 14, 2010
davidylan:

I wonder when all this self-righteous requests for "aid" will end and we start asking nations to stand up and take responsibility for their own. I for one see no reason why Haiti has such a beautiful presidential "palace" but has only one hospital with no facilities, no electricity, no food, no roads, no emergency services.

You can keep donating if you wish . . . i will save my money for those who truly deserve it. If that makes me wicked then so be it.

Members of the negroid race have to stand up and decide they will NO LONGER be the scourge of the earth anymore. I get sick watching TV and seeing blacks being the ones everyone has to feed.

says the one who lives comfortably. Are u going say the dying children dont deserve it either. And yet you are all over the religion board. . undecided

Sigh

u think its only black people? David open your eyes!
My church has been on many mission retreats to places where black people are no where to be found.
Please use another baseless argument.
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Nobody: 6:42pm On Jan 14, 2010
platinumnk:

For those outside The United States :

@David- I am really appalled at your reasoning, you want people to continue to die because of your arrogance?
Its really nice you're arent the ones looking for your family.


At the Haitian who posted earlier, May God be your comfort at this time.
Im still waiting on my friends report on her family there. .   embarassed embarassed embarassed



This is just absolutely revolting self-righteousness as far as i'm concerned. Does the American government leave you to starve while China comes to your rescue? Why were you all attacking Bush for not coming quickly to the aid of those in Katrina? Couldnt you have waited for the UK and donations from the Red Cross?

Governments have a RESPONSIBILITY to those they govern . . . i am tired of black leaders abdicating that responsibility in favour of their people being fed by others who WORK HARD FOR THEIR OWN MONEY.

I repeat again . . . how many of you donation-seeking saints realised Haiti was already a disaster area LONG BEFORE this earthquake? Where you aware that Haitians were feeding on cakes made from MUD at least more than a yr ago? Where were your donations then?

This is a nation that has virtually no functioning hospital or emergency services . . . where was your Oxfam and Red Cross?
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Nobody: 6:46pm On Jan 14, 2010
platinumnk:

says the one who lives comfortably. Are u going say the dying children dont deserve it either. And yet you are all over the religion board. . undecided

Sigh

u think its only black people? David open your eyes!
My church has been on many mission retreats to places where black people are no where to be found.
Please use another baseless argument.


Says the "saint" who lives comfortably, drives a nice car, lives in a decent country (run by whites) and hypocritically cries for aid to the poor. Not only black people are poor . . . but black nations are the only nations on earth doing absolutely nothing to reverse the long-held opinion that we are an inferior race.

Many of you have NEVER experienced poverty before, many of you have NEVER seen poverty before . . . enough of the pretense to care for the poor only when their plight is on TV. You should have been caring for Haiti long ago.
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Nobody: 6:47pm On Jan 14, 2010
The Americans here make me laugh . . . i thought Bush and FEMA were at fault for Katrina? Why are you not holding the Haitian government responsible for neglecting their citizens? I wonder why you werent all soliciting for donations during Katrina.
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by SeanT21(f): 6:51pm On Jan 14, 2010
davidylan:

The Americans here make me laugh . . . i thought Bush and FEMA were at fault for Katrina? Why are you not holding the Haitian government responsible for neglecting their citizens? I wonder why you werent all soliciting for donations during Katrina.

US has the money but Haiti does not. abi, stop all this back n forth and go and donate. Every little bit helps.
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Allta(m): 6:51pm On Jan 14, 2010
davidylan:

This is just absolutely revolting self-righteousness as far as i'm concerned. Does the American government leave you to starve while China comes to your rescue? Why were you all attacking Bush for not coming quickly to the aid of those in Katrina? Couldnt you have waited for the UK and donations from the Red Cross?

Governments have a RESPONSIBILITY to those they govern . . . i am tired of black leaders abdicating that responsibility in favour of their people being fed by others who WORK HARD FOR THEIR OWN MONEY.

I repeat again . . . how many of you donation-seeking saints realised Haiti was already a disaster area LONG BEFORE this earthquake? Where you aware that Haitians were feeding on cakes made from MUD at least more than a yr ago? Where were your donations then?

This is a nation that has virtually no functioning hospital or emergency services . . . where was your Oxfam and Red Cross?

Let me ask you a simple honest question, and I ask to get insight into your perspective over international aids , if these were to have happened in Naija, and you happen to loose family members and friends alike (God forbid), would you donate? or would you not appreciate efforts from the international community?

Does international aids have to go to only richest nations of this world? Would that have made much more sense? Or should aids only go to poor countries whose indigenes are white skinned?
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by PurestBoy(m): 6:52pm On Jan 14, 2010
davidylan:

I wonder when all this self-righteous requests for "aid" will end and we start asking nations to stand up and take responsibility for their own. I for one see no reason why Haiti has such a beautiful presidential "palace" but has only one hospital with no facilities, no electricity, no food, no roads, no emergency services.

You can keep donating if you wish . . . i will save my money for those who truly deserve it. If that makes me wicked then so be it.

Members of the negroid race have to stand up and decide they will NO LONGER be the scourge of the earth anymore. I get sick watching TV and seeing blacks being the ones everyone has to feed.

Hmmm, I understand your point man
Re: Davidylan Challenges Motivation & Usefulness of 'Relief Efforts' for Haiti by Nobody: 6:54pm On Jan 14, 2010
SeanT21:

US has the money but Haiti does not. abi, stop all this back n forth and go and donate. Every little bit helps.

Haiti has always been ruled by a corrupt dictatorship. It isnt about not having money . . . they get direct aid from the US government . . . where does it all go? building palaces while the people go without food?

Yeah we can all just donate more aid.

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