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Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by delivryboy: 4:54pm On May 27, 2017
Where there is a gathering of two or more people, it is important to elect a leader, this is according to Islamic teaching, it allows order in such a gathering because such elected leader is being looked upon as a source of direction.
Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by Nobody: 4:54pm On May 27, 2017
The intention for asking this question is bad

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Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by WaleOsu(m): 4:54pm On May 27, 2017
Ewedegubbler:


Who made him the chairman?
This is more like asking 'who made the Mr A the chairman of NLC?'
Every association ofcourse has members representing his/her constituents or whatsoever
This association in question is named 'Nigerian Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs' and obviously has other leaders representing their various tribes.
There are some questions we need not ask if we are to put sentiments apart...or have you ever asked who made Pope Francis the leader of the catholics?

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Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by Sike(m): 4:57pm On May 27, 2017
I weak...
Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by cremeboy: 4:59pm On May 27, 2017
Kathmandu:
Unity is when you make a Yoruba man head of Muslims in Nigeria
unity is when you make a northerner president of CAN. You people should learn to mind your business.

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Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by zabuur: 5:03pm On May 27, 2017
Kathmandu:
Why should the Sultan automatically becomes the head of Muslims in Nigeria when there are other groups that can also vie for it.


Yoruba Muslims need to rise up and challenge this aberration. Sultan doesn't have a direct communication to Allah so others should aspire for the head of Muslim body

Thank you for your write up. You made sense but, is it not better to understand something before giving your opinion.

Do u know that a beggar might be d one to sight the moon for the commencement of Ramadan. To spread d news, there has to be someone who will do the announcement. Sultan has been given d task in Nigeria just like each and every country, there's someone given the task to make d announcement.

Non Muslims have a way of provoking muslims, then when they are badly hit, they start condemning Islam.

I expect every non Muslim here to just read through and understand. Also for the muslims who don't know why it's so. You don't have business giving your comments if your comments lack both sense and fact
Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by olayinka63: 5:07pm On May 27, 2017
Kathmandu:
Why should the Sultan automatically becomes the head of Muslims in Nigeria when there are other groups that can also vie for it.


Yoruba Muslims need to rise up and challenge this aberration. Sultan doesn't have a direct communication to Allah so others should aspire for the head of Muslim body
Don't instigate division among Muslims. you're using your intuition of current trends of tribalism in Nigeria to cause disunity among us. Being Yoruba, Igbo or Hausa we're one. Leadership is an important concept in Islam. Therefore, don't mix the issue of North vs South with Islam

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Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by aminu790(m): 5:12pm On May 27, 2017
fleshbone:
Because in Islam, a movement without a leader is one of hypocrites.

Everyone is tasked with sighting the moon. But the leader okays it provided the person who sighted it can be trusted.

The month is used to count daYs and a new moon signifies a new month.

The Sultan as the leader then gives a go ahead. If he doesn't, Fasting can't commence.
May Allah make it easy in any of your actions

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Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by misterh(m): 5:15pm On May 27, 2017
exlinkleads:
Question: Why will NL ask if am a Muslim before i can comment on Muslim thread?

Question 2: why aren't people asked if they are Christians before allowing them access to Christian threads?

Question 3: Is Seun a Muslim?
In the early days of NL, religious related topics especially Islam related ones were always battlegrounds. Non Muslims usually invaded those topics to mock and deride Islam and Muslims. Meanwhile, Christian topics didn't witness these attacks. A subsection, Islam for Muslims was thereafter created just for Muslims and their topics. This didn't prevent those attacks from coming. Seun then made topics about Islam appear on the front page only on Fridays. Some Muslims saw this as being unfair as Christian related topics graced the front page at anytime. So, the question being asked before you can make a comment on Islamic topics is one of the measures put in place by Seun to check these attacks on Islam topics on Nairaland.

Seun is a self confessed atheist, by the way.

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Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by zabuur: 5:18pm On May 27, 2017
misterh:
In the early days of NL, religious related topics especially Islam related ones were always battlegrounds. Non Muslims usually invaded those topics and mock and deride Islam and Muslims. Meanwhile, Christian topics didn't witness these attacks. A subsection, Islam for Muslims was thereafter created just for Muslims and their topics. This didn't prevent those attacks from coming. Seun then made topics about Islam appear on the front page only on Fridays. Some Muslims saw this as being unfair as Christian related topics graced the front page at anytime. So, the questions being asked is one of the measures put in place by Seun to check these attacks on Islam topics on Nairaland.

Seun is a self confessed atheist, by the way.

They won't be comfortable with this again.
Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by Sterope(f): 5:25pm On May 27, 2017
I really don't see the big deal so far it is not used as a powerplay
Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by Sterope(f): 5:27pm On May 27, 2017
You are not a Muslim, so I am still wondering how this is your problem.....undecided.

Kathmandu:
Why should the Sultan automatically becomes the head of Muslims in Nigeria when there are other groups that can also vie for it.


Yoruba Muslims need to rise up and challenge this aberration. Sultan doesn't have a direct communication to Allah so others should aspire for the head of Muslim body
Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by donkaz2(m): 5:28pm On May 27, 2017
naijasucks:
A Facebook user posted on his timeline "Why will Sultan always be the one to declare fasting for a whole nation..?"

See reactions:



http://www.naijasucks.com/2017/05/why-will-sultan-always-be-one-to.html

It is symbolic,, yorubas dont have a pure Oba that is a muslim who dont have any osha in his palace,, two all the sheik in the yoruba land always have one disagreement or the other and if u assign any then there will be many misleading.. The best is taking from the north and use the highest authority in the north which is also a trone of a muslim faith.

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Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by DaudaAbu(m): 5:29pm On May 27, 2017
delivryboy:
Where there is a gathering of two or more people, it is important to elect a leader, this is according to Islamic teaching, it allows order in such a gathering because such elected leader is being looked upon as a source of direction.

An office authority is in fellowership.

Why do you think osinbanjo, with his size and all other physical attributes is obeyed when he gives order

Why would the order of the senate president be obeyed by those whom are likely older, wiser, wealthier than him?

Why would and commander be respected ,him alone, by more than a thousand junior officers?

You need to know how to follow else you cnnot be a leader.
Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by Nobody: 5:35pm On May 27, 2017
fleshbone:
Because in Islam, a movement without a leader is one of hypocrites.

Everyone is tasked with sighting the moon. But the leader okays it provided the person who sighted it can be trusted.

The month is used to count daYs and a new moon signifies a new month.

The Sultan as the leader then gives a go ahead. If he doesn't, Fasting can't commence.

Oga, i disagree with the last paragraph, fasting always commences according to the Qur'an & sunnah. if majority of the Muslim population comfirm sighting of the moon they can start fasting wether the sultan announces or not.

His announcement is just symbolic

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Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by ahmEenu(m): 5:54pm On May 27, 2017
TeamSimple:
Mischief makers. Later they will still come here to ask us why should Saudi Arabia receive all nations for pilgrimage. Why an Arab country and not Africa.

Acting silly questions like they care
.....


It is a very silly question
Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by Fawie(m): 6:01pm On May 27, 2017
Islam is not a tribe Islam is a religion and no tribe is superior to any other tribe so far we are all Muslims. remember democracy is not Islam but Shareah.

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Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by factwriter(m): 6:07pm On May 27, 2017
Kathmandu:
Must i be a Muslim to comment here? A question was asked and i clicked YES so your question is irrelevant

Who ever said anything about commenting

I asked why you hang around Muslim thread a lot. You don't hang around something you don't have interest (or at least hatred) in.

And you didn't also answer the second question about "smiley" being your alter ego.

Na wao o.
Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by maclatunji: 6:12pm On May 27, 2017
Kathmandu:
Unity is when you make a Yoruba man head of Muslims in Nigeria

First question, are you a Muslim?
Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by blingxx(m): 6:13pm On May 27, 2017
Kathmandu:
Why should the Sultan automatically becomes the head of Muslims in Nigeria when there are other groups that can also vie for it.


Yoruba Muslims need to rise up and challenge this aberration. Sultan doesn't have a direct communication to Allah so others should aspire for the head of Muslim body

because we dont value religious rivalry like you Christians ....redeem, catholic ,celestial ..muslims are not divided if that is what you want .. we are one undecided
Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by ezechima132(m): 6:15pm On May 27, 2017
Lolz because he is the SATAN OF SOKOTO

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Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by willibounce1(m): 6:22pm On May 27, 2017
FriendNG:


Nobody force the Yorubas to obey Sultan. They can as well elect their own. This is not about Yoruba or Hausa. The sokoto caliphate is based on inheritance. A person from Bauchi or Zamfara cannot head it. Islam is not about quota system or national cake.

If you want a Yoruba man to head it then create Southwest Sultanate period or give him one Yoruba lady to marry so that his child my be potential Sultan.

Not everything is about tribalism.

He is active again. Let the yorubas create southwest Muslim leaders so that you aboki.s can have a reason to start another senseless killings of innocent people. We all know your born to rule mentality and how ya'll will do anything to hold onto unreasonable and petty things.

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Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by FriendNG: 6:25pm On May 27, 2017
willibounce1:


He is active again. Let the yorubas create southwest Muslim leaders so that you aboki.s can have a reason to start another senseless killings of innocent people. We all know your born to rule mentality and how ya'll will do anything to hold onto unreasonable and petty things.


I did not post this for a lost sheep like you. Go and worship your defenseless god who died crying on the cross.
Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by willibounce1(m): 6:27pm On May 27, 2017
exlinkleads:
Question: Why will NL ask if am a Muslim before i can comment on Muslim thread?

Question 2: why aren't people asked if they are Christians before allowing them access to Christian threads?

Question 3: Is Seun a Muslim?

You'll never get an answer for the question. Several people have asked as well. It's either he pretends to be atheist while he is Muslim or he is scared of Muslims because he knows what they can do to him. Don't be surprised if you get banned for asking such question. I know they might ban me too, but I don't care. If people have to declare Islam on NL to comment, then I wonder if something worse won't happen if they had the opportunity to do this in real life.

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Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by nagoma(m): 6:44pm On May 27, 2017
FriendNG:
Because of Unity.


Before now each emir declare the sighting of the moon for his state until the coming of this sultan. He called for unity.

That's not entirely accurate brother
Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by FriendNG: 6:46pm On May 27, 2017
nagoma:

That's not entirely accurate brother
I am not saying because I hear rather is something I know.
Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by OLAJADON: 6:49pm On May 27, 2017
Kathmandu:
Why should the Sultan automatically becomes the head of Muslims in Nigeria when there are other groups that can also vie for it.


Yoruba Muslims need to rise up and challenge this aberration. Sultan doesn't have a direct communication to Allah so others should aspire for the head of Muslim body
the sultan is not communicating with GOd for we Muslims, his only duty is to be the amir(leader) of Muslims in Nigeria that is why he has the authority to declare when we fast or not. any other relationship is done between a Muslim and his lord not involving anyone.

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Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by Arabjo(m): 8:51pm On May 27, 2017
exlinkleads:
Question: Why will NL ask if am a Muslim before i can comment on Muslim thread?

Question 2: why aren't people asked if they are Christians before allowing them access to Christian threads?

Question 3: Is Seun a Muslim?

answer no 1 : Christians derail muslim thread with irrelevant comments because they think NL is for christians only

answer no 2 : Simple because they knew muslims doesn't have time to comment on Christian thread

answer 3 : No, but he have what u lack *sense*

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Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by EngrBello(m): 9:42pm On May 27, 2017
.. sad..
Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by EngrBello(m): 9:47pm On May 27, 2017
naijasucks:
A Facebook user posted on his timeline "Why will Sultan always be the one to declare fasting for a whole nation..?"

See reactions:



http://www.naijasucks.com/2017/05/why-will-sultan-always-be-one-to.html

Because ISLAM is Peace

We agree with each other,cheers with each other.....and Defends/Support each other....
finally.,We love each other

but jealousy and arrongant folks we keep looking for a way to destabilize us,our state and instigate Our nothern brothers by exploiting them through thier Lack...


Such example,was the person who asked that foolish question
Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by maleeks(m): 10:55pm On May 27, 2017
senier007:
He is the chairman of Nigerian supreme council of Ulama, the highest body/decision making of the Muslim Ummah.



To the op
Re: Why Will Sultan Always Be The One To Declare Fasting For A Whole Nation..? by horlaxymoney(m): 11:12pm On May 27, 2017
Kathmandu:
Why should the Sultan automatically becomes the head of Muslims in Nigeria when there are other groups that can also vie for it.


Yoruba Muslims need to rise up and challenge this aberration. Sultan doesn't have a direct communication to Allah so others should aspire for the head of Muslim body

Islam was introduced to Nigeria from the northern part, sokoto to be precise. So d honour was given to any chief imam of sokoto state.

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