PastorAIO:


ooo, I love it when I run into another bit of made up doctrines. Please, what is the basis of this claim?

PastorAIO:


So God repented from justice.

felixomor:


Are u trying to play emotional games after an agreement .
If i seize your house and company after u refused to pay an agreement loan, is it ok?

Answer that question, u will get the answer to ur question.

felixomor:

The bible.

Next.

felixomor:


If u choose to twist it to that, well yes.
Its calle Mercy.

Just like a judge can pardon,
God pardoned them.
He repented from the payment of their evil.
You can twist it to any new sentence u like.

PastorAIO:


My house and my property belong to me, they are inanimate possessions, they do not have souls. They are not autonomous entities. two human being however are 2 different autonomous entities. One person should not pay for the crimes of another. I think this is simple, but perhaps not to you.

felixomor:

Well the agreement then was that their children belonged to them.
Read the Laws.
Children are regarded as inheritance during the era of the law.

So your questions clearly arise from ignorance of other parts of the law.

PastorAIO:


Mercy is NOT repentance from Justice.

PastorAIO:


Yahweh repented of the evil he did.

PastorAIO:


You said the evil he did was justice.

PastorAIO:


Therefore Yahweh repented of Justice.

PastorAIO:


Now to repent means to turn back. That means that Justice/evil had already been meted out.

PastorAIO:


So where is the mercy when the evil/justice had already been done.

PastorAIO:


Was Ezekiel part of the law?


20"The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father's iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son's iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself.

Ezekiel Chapter 18

felixomor:

Mercy is what then?

You clearly ignored where I wrote "God is a judge"
And then twisted the sentence to "God repented from Justice".....
Yeah right.

Its the work of a judge to repay evil with evil.
Even if we choose to follow it literally, it applies.

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You said the evil he did was justice.
I said the evil with which he used to repay another evil was justice.
But u chose to twist it.
Or u think I wont notice?

Another fallacy.
Repenting from Justice, can be independent of the past.

There are two words for repentance in the Old Testament Hebrew. One word is “nacham” which means “to be sorry” or “to regret” but the overwhelming majority of the time it is used (391 times) it means “turn” or “return” (“shuwb”).

felixomor:


Ezekiel, Abraham and Moses, who came first?
In Chronological order.
Please tell us.

PastorAIO:


I don't see what this has to do with anything. I asked a simple question because you claimed that in the era of the Laws children must pay for their parents sin like they are property. You have directly and blatantly contradicted the prophet Ezekiel. Ezekiel is considered part of the law. So I asked you a rhetorical question. Is Ezekiel not part of the law?

If Ezekiel is part of the law then you told a plain faced lie on the head of your God.

Chronology has nothing to do with this point.

PastorAIO:


Mercy is to forgive transgressions.

PastorAIO:

You said God is a judge, so what?

PastorAIO:

The bible has God saying he repented from evil. You called the evil he did justice. Is the evil God did justice or not? If it is then God repented from justice. If it isn't then you have a case.

PastorAIO:

Really? I thought Justice was to set things to right. To make things right. My mother used to tell me that 2 wrongs don't make a right. It seems to me that you God has human limitations if the only way he can bring about justice is to use Evil.

PastorAIO:

Okay, so God repented from the 'Evil that he used to repay another evil'. God repented from Justice.

PastorAIO:

Can you give us an example of this?

felixomor:




Besides I am just ignoring the part of earlier Mosaic laws that specifies the punishment on children and forthcoming generations.

Let us even Ignore the fact that you are trying to say that Chronology doesnt matter here?

legally speaking, the laws that applied to Nigeria before almagamation, are they the same Nigerian laws today?
Do u know what an amendment is?

PastorAIO:


What! Are you suggesting that different part of the Law contradict themselves?

Okay. And so you are resolving the contradictions by saying the later part of the law supercedes the earlier part. Or is it the earlier part that supercedes the later part.

felixomor:

And how is it different from what has happened here?
The Children of God Sinned and Moses Pleaded and they were forgiven.
Please how is it different.?

PastorAIO:


The difference is that Evil/Justice was already being meted out.

If ye will still abide in this land, then will I build you, and not pull you down, and I will plant you, and not pluck you up: For I repent of the evil that I have done unto you.
Jeremiah 42:10

felixomor:


Are you still trying to imply that chronology doesnt matter in matters the Law?

PastorAIO:


Divine Law, we are told, is unchanging.

Matthew 5:17-19
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

sonofluc1fer:


Its the work of a judge to repay evil with evil.

sonofluc1fer:


Its the work of a judge to repay evil with evil.

dalaman:


And apologize and repent for doing that. Makes perfect sense.

felixomor:

Where did he apologize?
In the roman bible?

dalaman:

felixomor:

Hmm
The apology.

dalaman:

felixomor:

Hmmmm.
That face.
Mscheww

KingEbukasBlog:
[s]Some atheists say that it is petty . Some of them say that it disproves the existence of God . Only if they could just relax and try to understand who God is or what His attributes are ? You may be wondering what this argument is . Its pretty funny . The small-minded atheist cannot fathom why God is so concerned with what humans who dwell in a 'little speck of cosmic dust' do . It only makes God petty and shallow-minded they claim.

I'm gona make this pretty lucid since its not a strong or good argument . So here it is :

God is so meticulous with what goes on in this little speck of cosmic dust because of His attributes . They are :

1. God is omnipresent . Being omnipresent means that God is everywhere at the same time . He is not confined to a temporal location . God is everywhere . He is conscious and observes even the most picayune activity that occurs inside and outside our universe . God knows what is going on in Jupiter , in Saturn , in the Andromeda galaxy , in the ring galaxy , tadpole or whirlpool galaxy because of His omnipresence. He has knowledge of the behaviors of even the tiniest molecules in the farthest galaxies .

2. God is omnipotent . God is powerful enough to do anything logically possible in accordance to His nature . And paying so close attention to how we live our lives is one of the millions of logically possible ways He proves his omnipotence .

3. God is the pinnacle of moral perfection : God is good . God is the source of moral goodness . And since God is good , evil which is the departure from good is despised by Him .

4. God has the Freedom of Will . Yes , God can will anything and it will be so . And since this epitome of moral goodness , the omnipotent and omnipresent God has decided to be so punctilious about the morality of humans who live in this little speck of cosmic dust - our abode , earth - then who are we whom He created to describe it as 'petty' and 'shallow-minded' ?

So there you have it folks . It is not petty or shallow-minded for God to be so meticulous about what we do with our lives even to the most insignificant things we do . God's aforementioned attributes make it possible for such to be so . That's His nature . Those attributes are simply identical to his being and there's nothing you can do about it . Wailing and complaining won't stop God from being God [/s].

KingEbukasBlog:
Some atheists say that it is petty . Some of them say that it disproves the existence of God . Only if they could just relax and try to understand who God is or what His attributes are ? You may be wondering what this argument is . Its pretty funny . The small-minded atheist cannot fathom why God is so concerned with what humans who dwell in a 'little speck of cosmic dust' do . It only makes God petty and shallow-minded they claim.

I'm gona make this pretty lucid since its not a strong or good argument . So here it is :

God is so meticulous with what goes on in this little speck of cosmic dust because of His attributes . They are :

1. God is omnipresent . Being omnipresent means that God is everywhere at the same time . He is not confined to a temporal location . God is everywhere . He is conscious and observes even the most picayune activity that occurs inside and outside our universe . God knows what is going on in Jupiter , in Saturn , in the Andromeda galaxy , in the ring galaxy , tadpole or whirlpool galaxy because of His omnipresence. He has knowledge of the behaviors of even the tiniest molecules in the farthest galaxies .

2. God is omnipotent . God is powerful enough to do anything logically possible in accordance to His nature . And paying so close attention to how we live our lives is one of the millions of logically possible ways He proves his omnipotence .

3. God is the pinnacle of moral perfection : God is good . God is the source of moral goodness . And since God is good , evil which is the departure from good is despised by Him .

4. God has the Freedom of Will . Yes , God can will anything and it will be so . And since this epitome of moral goodness , the omnipotent and omnipresent God has decided to be so punctilious about the morality of humans who live in this little speck of cosmic dust - our abode , earth - then who are we whom He created to describe it as 'petty' and 'shallow-minded' ?

So there you have it folks . It is not petty or shallow-minded for God to be so meticulous about what we do with our lives even to the most insignificant things we do . God's aforementioned attributes make it possible for such to be so . That's His nature . Those attributes are simply identical to his being and there's nothing you can do about it . Wailing and complaining won't stop God from being God .

randomperson:
One question about morality

Does God prohibit killing because it's bad or is killing bad because God prohibited it?

If it's the former, it means there is a higher reason or morality than God.

If it's the latter, it means God acts without reason or purpose i.e. insanity

JackBizzle:
When will Felixomor have sense?

He loses the argument then shifts the goalposts. Ogbeni where is the agreement?