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Re: Oduduwa Has Never Been Ooni But Always Olofin by absoluteSuccess: 7:37am On Jul 10, 2017
BabaRamota1980:
I think you guys ought to be invited to share and record some of your inputs. You guys talk like reincarnates. grin grin

So, absolutesuccess, could the HOORE mentioned by Olu have anything to do with the ending O in Yoruba word conversation?

E k'aro O
Se lafia ni O
Mo k'ago O
E n'le O
E ma wo'le O
A ti de O


Babaramota tun gbe titun de O! cheesy cheesy cheesy grin


What is the phenomenal or spiritual value of this O at end of sentence?


Also, on a different note regarding AWO, and this might be something for metaphysical to explain, .....is LAW (english) not a derivative of AWO (Yoruba)?


Law is a code of living within the tenets of DOs and DONTs. Same thing that AWO is, a matrix of disciplined living by observing the middle path between two extremes.

Law is material, Awo is ethereal. Kind of the dichotomy that exist between theory and application, they are interwoven.

If this explanation is valid, then the Ogboni cult and its sacred order existed as part of the etymological origin that gave us LAW and the practices of LAW, wherever or whoever the people that coined and introduced it as a chamber of study in academic scholarship.


On a last note, Yoruba Oriki, like Alabi, Alake, Abebi, Ashake, Akanke, Adio, Adele, Akanni, Alamu, Adisa...and so on, take their first two letters from prefixes used in ancient Yoruba to designate attributes and a bridge between the metaphysical and physical realms, or the unknown and the known. In essence thats what birth symbolizes....the arrival or manifestation of a link between past and present, unknown and known. We find that the exact same principle is used amongst the ancient semitic tribes when they attribute cause to God with beautiful prefixes such as Al, As, Aq, Ad, Ab, At, A'a, Ag, Ay, and so on....



To all the mods reading this thread and not making action to move to front page....

I think the o at the end of words in Yoruba signifies period. There are different kinds of punctuations in Yoruba. There are verbal punctuations such as O, where it means yes, I understand. It is also akin to saying only.

Others in that category are

Ngbo
Sebi
Kinla!

O is verbal full stop in Yoruba conversation.

As to Awo being the source or having to do with Law, I can only say one needs to understand the etymology of the word law in english lexicon and then awo in Yoruba antiquity to compare the contrast. There are good many times instances like that pop up in Yoruba and English language. Examples are

Archaic:

issun (Yoruba for issue) this has the same verbal orientation and similar in pronunciation with the English equivalent.

Shin: Sheen, the greasy effect of a surface.

Medley:

AdeLabour: this word is not purely Yoruba, it must have been invented at one point in time for someone that is 'baby mama', the true Yoruba version should be 'abileko', a woman married to a husband. As such, abileko is a bi ile oko, one that has a matrimonial home, as opposed to one who once have childbirth labour.

Penkelemesi: peculiar mess`this follows english intonation but has no intelligible meaning in Yoruba. So, my take is there must be certain ancient correspondence however small, before one pick a word as such or for it to be reckon as peculiar.
Re: Oduduwa Has Never Been Ooni But Always Olofin by ajl: 3:28am On Nov 14, 2022
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Re: Oduduwa Has Never Been Ooni But Always Olofin by ajl: 3:34am On Nov 14, 2022
amor4ce:
It is incontrovertible knowledge that Oduduwa is also l known as Olofin Otete and bore the title Olofin while ruling at Ile-Ife. Sadly, some awos preach that there's a divinity called Olofin who is distinct from Oduduwa. Why? Even more saddsning is the insistence by the historians from his palace grounds that he was the first Ooni whereas Obalufon the spokesperson of Obatala and Oduduwa is the Ooni whose spirit is borne bu subsequent occupants of his throne. Oduduwa could not, given his niche and status, could not have borne the appellation of another divinity, almost all of whom he outranks. Why have these historians been misinforming us as if they are omo ale (bastaards)?

You are the one with poor knowledge of history. You must refer to Odu Ifa as source of information on aspects of Yoruba history. Please don't mix things. There were two Oduduwas. The first, named Oduduwa Olofin-Otete (Ateworo, one that descend from a chain) was non-human initially and was responsible for creating the earth. This information is provided in Odu "Osa Ogunda". The second Oduduwa was human and was the first Ooni. he is referred to Oduduwa Olofin-Akoko. He adopted the name of the divine Oduduwa. This was common back then. There were several human Obatalas who adopted the name of the divine Obatala. Same thing Orunmila Agboniregun adopted the name of the divine Orunmila. All the divine beings numbering 400 arrived at the same period and were sent to create the earth and make it habitable. It was Oduduwa Olofin-Otete that specifically created the earth, and was given a woman, Eni-bi-eni, that created directly by Olodumare. Many of the human Orisas adopted the names of the Irunmoles. Search online for "Ifa Creation Story by Oluwo Solagbade Popoola". You will find information on divine Oduduwa Olofin-Otete. See this link: https://www.obafemio.com/uploads/5/1/4/2/5142021/the_creation_story.pdf

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Re: Oduduwa Has Never Been Ooni But Always Olofin by Olu317(m): 1:45pm On Nov 14, 2022
ajl:


You are the one with poor knowledge of history. You must refer to Odu Ifa as source of information on aspects of Yoruba history. Please don't mix things. There were two Oduduwas. The first, named Oduduwa Olofin-Otete (Ateworo, one that descend from a chain) was non-human initially and was responsible for creating the earth. This information is provided in Odu "Osa Ogunda". The second Oduduwa was human and was the first Ooni. he is referred to Oduduwa Olofin-Akoko. He adopted the name of the divine Oduduwa. This was common back then. There were several human Obatalas who adopted the name of the divine Obatala. Same thing Orunmila Agboniregun adopted the name of the divine Orunmila. All the divine beings numbering 400 arrived at the same period and were sent to create the earth and make it habitable. It was Oduduwa Olofin-Otete that specifically created the earth, and was given a woman, Eni-bi-eni, that created directly by Olodumare. Many of the human Orisas adopted the names of the Irunmoles. Search online for "Ifa Creation Story by Oluwo Solagbade Popoola". You will find information on divine Oduduwa Olofin-Otete. See this link: https://www.obafemio.com/uploads/5/1/4/2/5142021/the_creation_story.pdf
Quite true. You must probably be an ifa adherent or admirer of Yoruba ifaodu.

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