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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by Empiree: 5:06pm On Jul 02
tintingz:
Lol ofcos I will allow her go out braless, shirtless, skirtless if we're in society that accept it. I have no problem with but the society I'm has problem with it because it is filled with religious folks.

Are western folks not doing it?

There are still society till date that sees nothing wrong with women walking around nàked e.g the Zoe tribe in north america and some African society that still adhere to their culture.
Looks like you have MP wallahi
Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by tintingz(m): 5:09pm On Jul 02
Empiree:
Looks like you have MP wallahi
Music Player you mean? cheesy

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by Rilwayne001: 5:14pm On Jul 02
tintingz:
Lol ofcos [b] I will allow her go out braless, shirtless, skirtless if we're in society that accept it. I [/b]have no problem with but the society I'm has problem with it because it is filled with religious folks.

Are western folks not doing it?

There are still society till date that sees nothing wrong with women walking around nàked e.g the Zoe tribe in north america and some African society that still adhere to their culture.

Continue deceiving yourself ehn grin
Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by Rilwayne001: 5:15pm On Jul 02
tintingz:
Music Player you mean? cheesy

Mental P lipsrsealed cheesy grin
Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by tintingz(m): 5:19pm On Jul 02
APCsupporter:


OK Mr tintinz. yes, our religion is discriminatory and full of lies. how does that concern you?
Same question to you why are you and your fellows concern about non-muslims?

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by tintingz(m): 5:23pm On Jul 02
Rilwayne001:


Mental P lipsrsealed cheesy grin
I know it has to relate to a problem, I want him to spell it out.

If he actually meant "mental problem" that's where bigotry comes in, he can't tolerate those society where people walk nàked but want me to accept women should cover from head to toe. smiley

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by tintingz(m): 5:27pm On Jul 02
Rilwayne001:


Continue deceiving yourself ehn grin
I'm serious about what I said.

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by APCsupporter: 5:28pm On Jul 02
tintingz:
Same question to you why are you and your fellows concern about non-muslims?

I don't know about my colleagues but I only talk about other religions when mine is bashed

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by tintingz(m): 5:33pm On Jul 02
APCsupporter:


I don't know about my colleagues but I only talk about other religions when mine is bashed
Ok, Then why do you have problem with PDP. cheesy

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by APCsupporter: 5:38pm On Jul 02
tintingz:
Ok, Then why do you have problem with PDP. cheesy
it's the same thing. I don't attack pdp just like that

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by Rilwayne001: 5:40pm On Jul 02
tintingz:
I'm serious about what I said.

No. Of course you're not serious with it, you are not saying that objectively rather in a bid to remain as the last man standing in the argument.
Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by Demmzy15(m): 6:15pm On Jul 02
vedaxcool:



A Vancouver-based model has finally revealed the truth behind the headlines that he was deported from Saudi Arabia for essentially being ridiculously good-looking.

Omar Borkan Al Gala and two friends were apparently kicked out of the country for being "too handsome" and officials at a cultural festival "feared female visitors could fall for them," reported Emirates 24/7 in April 2013.

Within 48 hours of the story going viral, Al Gala gained 800,000 likes on his Facebook page. For almost two years, he declined to confirm or deny the story. His shrewd decision to stay quiet netted him some marriage proposals, a gift of a Mercedes G55 — plus an agent and a manager.

In an exclusive interview with Metro this week, Al Gala revealed that he and his friends were at the festival in Riyadh when some girls recognized him from some modelling he had done. As they gathered for autographs and photos, the crowd grew, said the newspaper.

"The religion police didn’t like it,” Al Gala, 24, told Metro. “They came and they asked me politely to leave the festival."

Saudi Arabia's Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vices enforces strict rules limiting interaction between men and women who aren't related.

So Al Gala was never asked to leave the country — only the festival.

Not that it matters anymore. The aspiring actor is a product ambassador for Samsung and has modelling contracts around the world. His social media accounts show photos of him pushing through a crowd of fans in Japan as well as posing in various ad campaigns.

Al Gala, who is originally from Dubai, moved to Vancouver with his parents and three brothers, reported In Touch Weekly.

http://m.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/01/16/omar-borkan-al-gala-deported_n_6488782.html
Busted!!!! grin grin

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by Empiree: 6:18pm On Jul 02
tintingz:
Music Player you mean? cheesy
You can check definition of MP here cheesy

http://www.nairaland.com/1484854/interview-joke-lol#down
Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by Empiree: 6:22pm On Jul 02
tintingz:
I know it has to relate to a problem, I want him to spell it out.

If he actually meant "mental problem" that's where bigotry comes in, he can't tolerate those society where people walk nàked but want me to accept women should cover from head to toe. smiley
We talking about Islam and Muslims here not people who are born and live is such society. You challenged Islamic dress code is what problem is. I have no problem with women that are not Muslim or that don't believe in Islamic dress code.
Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by tintingz(m): 6:48pm On Jul 02
Empiree:
We taking about Islam and Muslims here not people who are born and live is such society. You challenged Islamic dress code is what problem is. I have no problem with women that are not Muslim or that don't believe in Islamic dress code.
Do I believe in Islamic dress code? You asked if I can allow my wife walk nàked in public and I said I can then you said I have metal problem or whatever MP means.

The reason I include other society is because I'm African, we were once dress half-Unclad before the foreign religious folks came.

If a society can "punish" women for dressing anyhow they want then there is a problem, if a society don't allow women to wear hijab there is also a problem.

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by AlBaqir(m): 6:55pm On Jul 02
tintingz:
Salaam Alaykum.

There are things about the issue of hijab, jilbaba, burqa, niqab, khimar which Muslim women put on.

It is said in the Quran and hadith that the women's hair, face, hands, feets, the whole body are awrah(intimate part) and they are commanded to be covered including their face.

The questions are,

- Why did Allah create the women's hair, face, hands, feet, that makes Muslim men arouse?

- Why is it not same as men?
There are many handsome good looking men that can make ladies drool, why are they not covering their face and whole body like Muslim women do?

- Why do women need to apologize for being feminine?


# It is a common knowledge and acceptable fact that females are 90% more attractive than males.

# A female no matter how ugly she is facially, is attractive in her bodily parts quicker than man.

# Structurally, the two sexes were created with their specific bodily parts for specific functions and responsibilities. So, it is wiser and safer morally and religiously to channel, direct and use those bodily parts in their right, specific responsibility.

# Some years back while I was still working as a Quality control Manager in a Pharmaceutical company, one of my I.T students (a female), beautiful, brilliant and with a great sense of humour, one day came to the office with a very devastated mood. What is the problem? I asked. Nothing sir, she answered. After sometimes, I asked again and she replied with anger, "Ògá! You can imagine a rif-raff okada rider toasting and asking me out?". I asked, "how often guys approach you?" She said, "always, and its killing me". The lady funny enough is a good Christian. Hmmm...I sighed! I said, "can I tell you my candid opinion?" She said, "That's the reason I talked to you sir". Then, I said, " the truth is there is a problem with your mode of dressing. No sane man will not want to look at you twice, and the bolder ones will definitely ask you out. Your tight-fitted dressing attract easily and tempting always. If you can dress more modestly, I can assure you that the approach will be reduced." She said, "Ògá, but my heart is clean..." I said, " the fact is they don't care what's in your heart or brain, or how dull or brilliant, good or bad mannered you are. Its about your selling attractive market".

tingtingz, this is the reality. I have dealt with several cases even worse than this.

# Quran with its philosophical arguments

Surah Al-Ahzab, Verse 59:

O Prophet! say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers that they let down upon them their over-garments; this will be more proper, that they may be known, and thus they will not be given trouble; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful

* The above verse is clear on three points:

1. This will be more proper

2. That they may be known

3. And thus will not be given trouble.

Have you ever ponder on those three points?


# To the men, Quran gives command as per their own Hijab:

Surah An-Noor, Verse 30:

Say to the believing men that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts; that is purer for them; surely Allah is Aware of what they do

It is a fact that man thinks sexually, faster and aggressively than woman. Woman's attractiveness is the catalyst. You can research easily the rate of sexual harassment women received at the hands of men. It got to a stage in India that they record at least 10s cases of rape daily and scores of failed attempt and several unreported similar cases. India is more morally balanced than the US. Try and see US statistics on female sexual harassment, rape, extra marital affairs and related cases. Compare all these with a society where Hijab is being practised.


Wa salam

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by tintingz(m): 6:56pm On Jul 02
APCsupporter:

it's the same thing. I don't attack pdp just like that
Ok
Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by tintingz(m): 6:58pm On Jul 02
Rilwayne001:


No. Of course you're not serious with it, you are not saying that objectively rather in a bid to remain as the last man standing in the argument.
Are you now Charles Xavier? Lol.

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by tintingz(m): 6:58pm On Jul 02
Empiree:
You can check definition of MP here cheesy

http://www.nairaland.com/1484854/interview-joke-lol#down
So many confusion in that thread. grin
Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by Rilwayne001: 7:02pm On Jul 02
tintingz:
Are you now Charles Xavier? Lol.

Like we have something in common? What is it,? :Pw
Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by Demmzy15(m): 7:20pm On Jul 02
tintingz:
There are different reports on this as the guy didn't confirm nor deny the reports himself.

Religious police in the deeply conservative Muslim country reportedly stormed a stand manned by delegates from the United Arab Emirates at the Jenadrivah Heritage & Culture Festival. The three hotties were evicted from the festival, then deported to the UAE because they were so handsome that police “feared female visitors could fall for them,” the Arabic-language newspaper Elaph reported.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/hottie-deported-saudi-arabia-handsome-article-1.1327759

^^^Wether he was evicted from the festival event or deported back to his country is not the issue, the issue is Saudi authority have problem with these men handsomeness that they feared women will fall for them.

Why do these men need to apologize for being handsome? Why not tell them to wear burqa instead of evicting them out? Even late Michael Jackson is not sent out in any event even tho he caused a lot of uproar or hullabaloo in many events.
You ehn?! grin If they had problems with his "handsomeness" they wouldn't have allowed him into the country in the first place! grin

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by tintingz(m): 8:07pm On Jul 02
AlBaqir:



# It is a common knowledge and acceptable fact that females are 90% more attractive than males.
Where is the fact for this? They are more attractive but that percentage rate is no fact.

# A female no matter how ugly she is facially, is attractive in her bodily parts quicker than man.
Agreed.

# Structurally, the two sexes were created with their specific bodily parts for specific functions and responsibilities. So, it is wiser and safer morally and religiously to channel, direct and use those bodily parts in their right, specific responsibility.
If you read along you read where I brought up a philosophical question Euthyphro Dilemma Where I asked is God bound to morality and are there reasons for his given morality?

It seems you didn't get this thread question, Why did Allah made women attractive and later said they should cover up? They are like the ones apologizing for being feminine something like "Oh we are sorry for being feminine, we are commanded to cover up with hijab".

# Some years back while I was still working as a Quality control Manager in a Pharmaceutical company, one of my I.T students (a female), beautiful, brilliant and with a great sense of humour, one day came to the office with a very devastated mood. What is the problem? I asked. Nothing sir, she answered. After sometimes, I asked again and she replied with anger, "Ògá! You can imagine a rif-raff okada rider toasting and asking me out?". I asked, "how often guys approach you?" She said, "always, and its killing me". The lady funny enough is a good Christian. Hmmm...I sighed! I said, "can I tell you my candid opinion?" She said, "That's the reason I talked to you sir". Then, I said, " the truth is there is a problem with your mode of dressing. No sane man will not want to look at you twice, and the bolder ones will definitely ask you out. Your tight-fitted dressing attract easily and tempting always. If you can dress more modestly, I can assure you that the approach will be reduced." She said, "Ògá, but my heart is clean..." I said, " the fact is they don't care what's in your heart or brain, or how dull or brilliant, good or bad mannered you are. Its about your selling attractive market".

tingtingz, this is the reality. I have dealt with several cases even worse than this.
The lady is an hypocrite (no offense), so if it was dangote's son or Buhari son that approach her will she come to you in sad mood?

# Quran with its philosophical arguments

Surah Al-Ahzab, Verse 59:

O Prophet! say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers that they let down upon them their over-garments; this will be more proper, that they may be known, and thus they will not be given trouble; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful

* The above verse is clear on three points:

1. This will be more proper

2. That they may be known

3. And thus will not be given trouble.

Have you ever ponder on those three points?


# To the men, Quran gives command as per their own Hijab:

Surah An-Noor, Verse 30:

Say to the believing men that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts; that is purer for them; surely Allah is Aware of what they do

It is a fact that man thinks sexually, faster and aggressively than woman. Woman's attractiveness is the catalyst. You can research easily the rate of sexual harassment women received at the hands of men. It got to a stage in India that they record at least 10s cases of rape daily and scores of failed attempt and several unreported similar cases. India is more morally balanced than the US. Try and see US statistics on female sexual harassment, rape, extra marital affairs and related cases. Compare all these with a society where Hijab is being practised.


Wa salam
Women also think sexually aggressively just that society we are has made them not to express it, in western countries a woman can walk up to you and ask for a one night stand, don't make it seems men are only the sex fantasies.

There are many factors that causes sexual harassment, assaults e.g dominant, power, anger, psychological, evolutionary etc not only the blame on the women folks, no matter how modesty a society is there will still be sexual harassment.

In Saudi Arabia there are cases of sexual harassment and it is increasing day by day.

Amid this climate of shame and underreporting, the data reveal a pressing problem. Six sexual harassment cases are reported every day, as statistics published by the country’s Ministry of Justice have shown. In 2013 and 2014, a total of 3,982 harassment cases made it to Saudi courts, with the largest share of offenses taking place in the Saudi capital of Riyadh.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/08/07/sexual-harassment-saudi-arabia_n_7934850.html

^^In the link there is a video of a full hijab lady being harass by men on the road.

In Saudi Arabia it is said women don't report rape cases because of shame and the harsher punishment they will receive.

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by tintingz(m): 9:19pm On Jul 02
Demmzy15:
You ehn?! grin If they had problems with his "handsomeness" they wouldn't have allowed him into the country in the first place! grin
The Saudi police might not pay attention to him at first until ladies started paying attention to him and meeting him for autograph, the police walked him out for being handsome that they fear women will fall for him. grin

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by Demmzy15(m): 9:23pm On Jul 02
tintingz:
The Saudi police might not pay attention to him at first until ladies started paying attention to him and meeting him for autograph, the police walked him out for being handsome that they fear women will fall for him. grin
Someone as handsome as that? grin Na only God go help Wallahi!!!

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by vedaxcool(m): 7:38am On Jul 03
tintingz:
There are different reports on this as the guy didn't confirm nor deny the reports himself.

Religious police in the deeply conservative Muslim country reportedly stormed a stand manned by delegates from the United Arab Emirates at the Jenadrivah Heritage & Culture Festival. The three hotties were evicted from the festival, then deported to the UAE because they were so handsome that police “feared female visitors could fall for them,” the Arabic-language newspaper Elaph reported.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/hottie-deported-saudi-arabia-handsome-article-1.1327759

^^^Wether he was evicted from the festival event or deported back to his country is not the issue, the issue is Saudi authority have problem with these men handsomeness that they feared women will fall for them.

Why do these men need to apologize for being handsome? Why not tell them to wear burqa instead of evicting them out? Even late Michael Jackson is not sent out in any event even tho he caused a lot of uproar or hullabaloo in many events.

You posted a 2013 link to overrule a 2015 link clearly shows that you seem more favourably disposed to lies. The man in his own words said he was not deported from KSA yet you still insist on parroting an old lie clearly showing how much you value critical thinking.

Pic 1 the 2015 news in Gorans own words

Pic 2 tintingz 2013 news in the words of an unknown quantity.

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by tintingz(m): 8:00am On Jul 03
vedaxcool:


You posted a 2013 link to overrule a 2015 link clearly shows that you seem more favourably disposed to lies. The man in his own words said he was not deported from KSA yet you still insist on parroting an old lie clearly showing how much you value critical thinking.

Pic 1 the 2015 news in Gorans own words

Pic 2 tintingz 2013 news in the words of an unknown quantity.
Lol, sir I said the issue is that the Saudi Police has problem with the man handsomeness, whether he was evicted from the festival or deported is not the point.

It is only in Saudi I have heard someone was sent out because he's handsome and causing a fuss. grin
It is someone that causes violence I know they sent out from an event.

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by tintingz(m): 8:02am On Jul 03
Demmzy15:
Someone as handsome as that? grin Na only God go help Wallahi!!!
It is not his fault he's handsome and masculine and he doesn't have to apologize for it.

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by udatso: 4:48pm On Jul 03
tintingz:
Sorry, so Allah does do things without knowing or give reasons for what he does? (No offense)
And when you are called a kaafir, you find it a hard pill to swallow. How can you even still call yourself a Muslim with all these utterances

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by vedaxcool(m): 5:38pm On Jul 03
tintingz:
Lol, sir I said the issue is that the Saudi Police has problem with the man handsomeness, whether he was evicted from the festival or deported is not the point.

It is only in Saudi I have heard someone was sent out because he's handsome and causing a fuss. grin
It is someone that causes violence I know they sent out from an event.

You started out your post on a lie and still continue perpetuating the lie despitw being corrected.
1. He wasn't deported saying otherwise means you are liar hell bent on promoting lies.

2. He was told to leave a festival NOT BECAUSE OF HIS HANDSOMNESS BUT people who recognized him created a crowd in the process of securing his autograph these were his own words.

I understand you intend to restate this lie because you have only flimy uniformed posts to perpetuate your ignorance but atleast prove you have the basic intellect to differentiate between false news and real news. grin I believe you should have regained some modicum of understanding.

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by tintingz(m): 7:05pm On Jul 03
vedaxcool:


You started out your post on a lie and still continue perpetuating the lie despitw being corrected.
1. He wasn't deported saying otherwise means you are liar hell bent on promoting lies.

2. He was told to leave a festival NOT BECAUSE OF HIS HANDSOMNESS BUT people who recognized him created a crowd in the process of securing his autograph these were his own words.

I understand you intend to restate this lie because you have only flimy uniformed posts to perpetuate your ignorance but atleast prove you have the basic intellect to differentiate between false news and real news. grin I believe you should have regained some modicum of understanding.
And you want me to buy that poo story?
I don't know who the liars are, is it you, Al Gala, Saudi Arabia, Metronews.

Because this is what he said:


I hit the lottery,” he said. “The first day the news was in the Asian world, and the next day it was in Mexico. That’s when we knew it was going viral.”
Soon after, Al Gala said he secured an agent and manager. Together, they consciously decided to spin the story to help further his career.
“We dealt with the whole situation in a really smart way,” he said.

http://m.metronews.ca/#/article/news/canada/2015/01/15/too-handsome-vancouver-model-dishes-on-reports-he-was-kicked-out-of-saudi-arabia.html

Spinning a story means propagating a situation in favor or against an organization, person, country and this is a capital offense in sharia law, where is the reports that Al gala was charged to court? Why took him 3 years for him to speak out.

Keep that your bullshit story to yourself, so a situation happened in 2013 that caused the world to critisize saudi and Saudi didnt release a press statement on it. grin

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by tintingz(m): 7:17pm On Jul 03
udatso:

And when you are called a kaafir, you find it a hard pill to swallow. How can you even still call yourself a Muslim with all these utterances
You can call me a kafir do I f*** care? cool

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Re: Why Did Allah Create The Women's Body And Made Them Apologize For It? by tintingz(m): 8:41pm On Jul 03
I guess banning and punishing a very handsome man in saudi didn't just happen in this era but Also happened during one of Islamic great sahabah era Umar bin Khittab.

It was narrated by Abu Nu‘aym in Hilyat al-Awliya’ (4/322), and by Ibn ‘Asaakir in Tareekh Dimashq (62/21), from ash-Sha‘bi; and by Ibn Sa‘d in at-Tabaqaat (3/216), from ‘Abdullah ibn Buraydah; by Ibn ‘Asaakir in Tareekh Dimashq (62/23) from Muhammad ibn Sireen.

‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allah be pleased with him) was patrolling in Madinah when he heard a woman chanting some verses of poetry in which she was saying: “Is there a way to get some wine to drink, and is there a way to be with Nasr bin Hajjaj?” He summoned him and found that he was a handsome youth, so he shaved his head, but it only made him better looking. So he exiled him to Basra lest the women be tempted by him. Then he sent word asking to return to his homeland, and stated that he had done nothing wrong, but ‘Umar refused to give him permission and said: Not so long as I am alive.

The scholar that even explain this hadith even said:

The sanctity of Madinah requires the banishment of anyone who is a source of temptation to women; he should be made to leave and go to some other land, out of respect for its sanctity.

https://islamqa.info/en/201633

^^^ Even hadiths back it up that handsome men that attract women should be exile/banish from the land which Saudi Arabia followed, Why should someone appologize for being handsome or beautiful? Vedaxcool who is the liar now?. grin grin cheesy

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