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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 8:19pm On Jun 12, 2016
shithapuns:
@dejavus, am interested in that hybrid inverter u posted...whats the price and specs?
ipowerplus seems to b the cheapest hybrid inverter avasilable in nigeria, the other makes are much more expensive...defeating the the cost saving of going hybrid..

also zinox the marketers of ipowerplus appear unserious, cos even on thier website, the option to buy the product isnt there.

3rdly @ house...am looking for an offgrid inverter (without charging capability - this is to save cost),,,,1.5kva or 2kva 24v or 36v... who can hook me up with such?

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by jazzman2(m): 6:11am On Jun 13, 2016
Gennextech:
ok sir please send me your email address

Hello, am still expecting the spec sheet for your 10kw hybrid inverter. Also include the spec sheets for your 5kw model too. My email is: eexege@gmail.com.

Thanks
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by idsolar(m): 8:55am On Jun 13, 2016
@kiekie. pls explain further on the solar inverter u posted. is it mustpower product? various capacity & price. how rugged are they? nagode

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 10:13pm On Jun 13, 2016
idsolar:
@kiekie. pls explain further on the solar inverter u posted. is it mustpower product? various capacity & price. how rugged are they? nagode

Hello, that's just sample unit . its currently OUT OF STOCK . Thanks!
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by shamecurls(m): 3:00am On Jun 14, 2016
Will a 12volt 1.5KVA inverter be able to charge a 4x12 volt battery bank

Picture below

Note- I will be using point 2 and 7 as charging point

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Im2Busy2Bother: 4:47am On Jun 14, 2016
shamecurls:
Will a 12volt 1.5KVA inverter be able to charge a 4x12 volt battery bank

Picture below

Note- I will be using point 2 and 7 as charging point


Your connection shows a 24V system not 12V.


You did not mention the charging current of the inverter.


Any inverter can charge any numbers of batteries, the big question is time it'll take to fully charge.
The smaller the charging current, the longer it'll take to fully charge the batteries

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by shamecurls(m): 4:53am On Jun 14, 2016
Im2Busy2Bother:



Your connection shows a 24V system not 12V.


You did not mention the charging current of the inverter.


Any inverter can charge any numbers of batteries, the big question is time it'll take to fully charge.



The smaller the charging current, the longer it'll take to fully charge the batteries


You are very right. It's 24 volt

Thanks for the support. Actually I intend using 8 12v batteries and hope to ge
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by shamecurls(m): 4:54am On Jun 14, 2016
Im2Busy2Bother:



Your connection shows a 24V system not 12V.


You did not mention the charging current of the inverter.


Any inverter can charge any numbers of batteries, the big question is time it'll take to fully charge.



The smaller the charging current, the longer it'll take to fully charge the batteries


You are very right. It's 24 volt

Thanks for the support. Actually I intend using 8 12v batteries and hope to get a external charger later. It's a luminous brand and not familiar with the charge current.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Im2Busy2Bother: 5:20am On Jun 14, 2016
shamecurls:



You are very right. It's 24 volt

Thanks for the support. Actually I intend using 8 12v batteries and hope to get external charger later


Ok. Luminous 1.5kva 24v has maximum charge current of 15A

Connecting the 8 nos of 12V 150Ah batteries connected in parallel will allow you to quadruple the capacity, producing 24V with 600Ah out the end


Calculating the battery charge time using

Charging Time of battery = Battery Ah / Charging Current

T = Ah / A

Time = 600/ 15A
= 40 hours (almost 2 days )

This 40 hours is more of theoretical calculation as it could be less based on the battery's state of charge (SOC).

So you really need an external charger to charge this big bank of batteries faster.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by shamecurls(m): 5:24am On Jun 14, 2016
Li
Im2Busy2Bother:



Ok. Luminous 1.5kva 24v has maximum charge current of 15A

Connecting the 8 nos of 12V 150Ah batteries connected in parallel will allow you to quadruple the capacity, producing 24V with 600Ah out the end


Calculating the battery charge time using

Charging Time of battery = Battery Ah / Charging Current

T = Ah / A

Time = 600/ 15A
= 40 hours (almost 2 days )

This 40 hours is more of theoretical calculation as it could be less based on the battery's state of charge (SOC).

So you really need an external charger to charge this big bank of batteries faster.



Thanks. Appreciate
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by JohnKester: 7:21am On Jun 14, 2016
dejavus:
Hi All, many thanks for all the wonderful information being shared on here.

I am curious though about people buy separate inverter and mppt charge controller when there are Hydrib inverters that does the same job now with probably less or the same amount of both combined, is there any specific reasons for this?

example below:



Look at it this way:

Your solar setup is only as good and as efficient as your charge controller. That is one piece of equipment you should not cut corners on because once it is not functioning properly, the first consequence would be your batteries and with that your setup would pack up even if all other equipment are in top shape.

Secondly, strength and dependency or reliability lies in simplicity. Once an equipment becomes multifunctional, from my personal experience, the reliability can no longer be as good as a single purpose equipment. In the design and built, compromises must be made either, in this case, in terms of size, weight, aesthetics, quality of materials, quality of fabrication and above all cost, which definitely must affect the overall efficiency and general performance and eventual durability and reliability.

Again, rate of failure should be considered. From my experience rate of failure with multifunctional equipment can be higher and so I would rather not have an integrated equipment fail on me and that means two equipment at once. I would rather one packs up at a time and I can deal with it.

Cheers

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by idsolar(m): 8:57am On Jun 14, 2016
shamecurls:



You are very right. It's 24 volt

Thanks for the support. Actually I intend using 8 12v batteries and hope to get a external charger later. It's a luminous brand and not familiar with the charge current.

see if u are able to get 600ah bank pls i advise u go extra and change ur inverter to one that can gv u not less than 30ah charge. contact @kiekie. i blv his 2kw 24v can handle this. my take
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Gennextech: 10:41am On Jun 14, 2016
GENNEX is very grateful for this forum, it has helped us , thanks a lot to the admin, please any questions about our products can be asked we will answer immediately thank you
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Gennextech: 10:47am On Jun 14, 2016
due to increase of the dollar to the naira , our prize list has been reviewed
GENNEX PRICE LIST
PRODUCT
PRICES(NAIRA)
SOLAR PANELS
SOLAR PANELS (255W)73,000
BATTERIES
VRLA BATTERIES
-
GEL BATTERIES 82,000
INVERTERS
1KVA/12V(600W MPPT) 99,000
2KVA/24V(600W MPPT) 112,000
2KVA/24V(1500W MPPT) 144,000
3KVA/24V(600W MPPT) 121,000
3KVA/24V(1500W MPPT) 156,000
3KVA/48V(3000W MPPT) 163,000

5KVA/48V(3000W MPPT) PAR-B 245,000
10KW/48V(14850W MPPT) 1,015,000
MC4 CONNECTORS
CC4K (2.5-6.0mm) 550
CC10K (10mm) 650
BA21 1,900
BM21 2,500
BM31 2,900
SOLAR MOUNT
SM RAILS 132" - 3.35m 8,500
SM RAILS 168" - 4.27m 10,500
SM RAILS 204" - 5.28m 12,500
SM RAILS 240" - 6.09m 14,500
end-clamp 400
Mid-clamp 400
L-foot 550
Adjustable tilt leg 6,500
Grounding lug 600
Splice bar 750
Grounding clip 450
BALANCE OF PLANT

Enclosed Battery Rack
15,000
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ranktzy(m): 11:54am On Jun 14, 2016
Gennextech:
due to increase of the dollar to the naira , our prize list has been reviewed
GENNEX PRICE LIST
PRODUCT
PRICES(NAIRA)
SOLAR PANELS
SOLAR PANELS (255W)73,000
BATTERIES
VRLA BATTERIES
-
GEL BATTERIES 82,000
INVERTERS
1KVA/12V(600W MPPT) 99,000
2KVA/24V(600W MPPT) 112,000
2KVA/24V(1500W MPPT) 144,000
3KVA/24V(600W MPPT) 121,000
3KVA/24V(1500W MPPT) 156,000
3KVA/48V(3000W MPPT) 163,000

5KVA/48V(3000W MPPT) PAR-B 245,000
10KW/48V(14850W MPPT) 1,015,000
MC4 CONNECTORS
CC4K (2.5-6.0mm) 550
CC10K (10mm) 650
BA21 1,900
BM21 2,500
BM31 2,900
SOLAR MOUNT
SM RAILS 132" - 3.35m 8,500
SM RAILS 168" - 4.27m 10,500
SM RAILS 204" - 5.28m 12,500
SM RAILS 240" - 6.09m 14,500
end-clamp 400
Mid-clamp 400
L-foot 550
Adjustable tilt leg 6,500
Grounding lug 600
Splice bar 750
Grounding clip 450
BALANCE OF PLANT

Enclosed Battery Rack
15,000

Please how much would it cost to set up solar energy for load of 2.5kva. Do show a breakdown of all that's needed. Thanks!
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by shamecurls(m): 12:17pm On Jun 14, 2016
idsolar:


see if u are able to get 600ah bank pls i advise u go extra and change ur inverter to one that can gv u not less than 30ah charge. contact @kiekie. i blv his 2kw 24v can handle this. my take

I actually have 8 12volt 200ah batteries. I have the 1.5kva already and that's why am thinking on how to utilize the 8 of them.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by hazelj: 12:56pm On Jun 14, 2016
Hello all,
I have 2 well used Trojan T105 RE batteries for sale 6v 225AH. These are one of the best batteries for solar or inverter applications.
They were charged with Solar and are in good shape. Anyone interested should send me message via email @ jovib7@yahoo.com
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by shamecurls(m): 1:43pm On Jun 14, 2016
Im2Busy2Bother:



Ok. Luminous 1.5kva 24v has maximum charge current of 15A

Connecting the 8 nos of 12V 150Ah batteries connected in parallel will allow you to quadruple the capacity, producing 24V with 600Ah out the end


Calculating the battery charge time using

Charging Time of battery = Battery Ah / Charging Current

T = Ah / A

Time = 600/ 15A
= 40 hours (almost 2 days )

This 40 hours is more of theoretical calculation as it could be less based on the battery's state of charge (SOC).

So you really need an external charger to charge this big bank of batteries faster.



Thanks alot

Will these connection work for Eight 12v 200AH batteries? I an connecting to a 24volt inverter?

Thanks in advance

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Gennextech: 1:59pm On Jun 14, 2016
u would get it in less than 5 minutes sir sorry for the delay
jazzman2:


Hello, am still expecting the spec sheet for your 10kw hybrid inverter. Also include the spec sheets for your 5kw model too. My email is: eexege@gmail.com.

Thanks
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Gennextech: 2:06pm On Jun 14, 2016
please send your email address let me send a mail
ranktzy:


Please how much would it cost to set up solar energy for load of 2.5kva. Do show a breakdown of all that's needed. Thanks!
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Barezzi(m): 2:26pm On Jun 14, 2016
Anyone with a 280w mono panel for sale??
I need 5pcs, thanks.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 5:07pm On Jun 14, 2016
kiekie1:
Must Power star light inverters
1kva-12v=80k
1.5kva-12v=95k
3kva(2000w)-12v=100,000
3kva(2000w)-24v=130,000
4kva(3000w)-24v=140,000
5kva(4000w)-24/48=190,000
6kva(5000w)-24/48= 210,000
7.5kva(6000w)-24/48=250,000

EP Solar 12/24/36/48v 60a mppt(e tracer) solar charge controller @ 130k


EP Solar 12/24 40a mppt(a series ep ever) solar charge controller @ 70k

MERCURY Docan Korean deep cycle batteries 12v 200a @80k (limited in stock)

Trojan 12v 205a USA batteries @ 89k...(limited quantity in stock)

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4 qty rack end clamp,
6 qty mid clamp,
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Same goes to angle positioning solar kits;
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- Adjustable rear leg
- Rail splice kit
- Grounding lug


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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ranktzy(m): 6:05pm On Jun 14, 2016
Gennextech:
please send your email address let me send a mail
Ok.
Thanks!
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by nastydamus(m): 6:46pm On Jun 14, 2016
Gennextech:
due to increase of the dollar to the naira , our prize list has been reviewed
GENNEX PRICE LIST
PRODUCT
PRICES(NAIRA)
SOLAR PANELS
SOLAR PANELS (255W)73,000
BATTERIES
VRLA BATTERIES
-
GEL BATTERIES 82,000
INVERTERS
1KVA/12V(600W MPPT) 99,000
2KVA/24V(600W MPPT) 112,000
2KVA/24V(1500W MPPT) 144,000
3KVA/24V(600W MPPT) 121,000
3KVA/24V(1500W MPPT) 156,000
3KVA/48V(3000W MPPT) 163,000

5KVA/48V(3000W MPPT) PAR-B 245,000
10KW/48V(14850W MPPT) 1,015,000
MC4 CONNECTORS
CC4K (2.5-6.0mm) 550
CC10K (10mm) 650
BA21 1,900
BM21 2,500
BM31 2,900
SOLAR MOUNT
SM RAILS 132" - 3.35m 8,500
SM RAILS 168" - 4.27m 10,500
SM RAILS 204" - 5.28m 12,500
SM RAILS 240" - 6.09m 14,500
end-clamp 400
Mid-clamp 400
L-foot 550
Adjustable tilt leg 6,500
Grounding lug 600
Splice bar 750
Grounding clip 450
BALANCE OF PLANT

Enclosed Battery Rack
15,000

Is this 'review' affecting your old stock too?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Juokorow(m): 6:47pm On Jun 14, 2016
pranil:


The separate charge controller and inverter might allow you to have higher rating on either charge controller or inverter than possible in hybrid say 60 amp charge controller but 8 kw inverter . Also they are likely to be more durable individually due to long history of development and heat dissipation

personally I prefer the Hybrid as they are invariably smarter with PC monitoring , generator start control , software settings etc. .Also Most of them can be stacked or paralleled so you can increase your rating both on load side and connect different solar strings ( makes , watts) to the same battery


Personally I am using two hybrid inverters powering two circuits one inverter runs 1000 watt powering only electronics and sensitive application ( runs like giant UPS) and takes the battery and solar inputs but never charges battery or is NOT connected to generator input. The other inverter runs on 1200 Watt solar but runs my waterpump .and two AC's plus non sensitive loads like compound lighting . This inverter is in appliance mode shifting to grid or generator whenever available and simultaneously charging batteries.
Both are connected to the same battery bank . so One inverter is essentially supplying the DC power through the battery bank whenever the grid or generator is running

without smart hybrid inverter such setup is impossible . Thsi allowed me to get rid of all the small UPS in the house essentially saving 200-300 watt load

wbr

Anil

Would you mind sharing the brand and model you chose for your setup. Thanks.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by durodee(m): 9:18pm On Jun 14, 2016

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Im2Busy2Bother: 9:30pm On Jun 14, 2016
shamecurls:




Thanks alot

Will these connection work for Eight 12v 200AH batteries? I an connecting to a 24volt inverter?

Thanks in advance


Yes, the connection is ok. I just hope you have commensurate charger to handle the big bank of batteries. Well done.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mank1234(m): 11:01pm On Jun 14, 2016
Im2Busy2Bother:


Any inverter can charge any numbers of batteries, the big question is time it'll take to fully charge.

Not entirely true. If the charging current is low sulfation can occur and battery life will be short (too many batteries in a bank wrt charger capacity). Also, if charging current is too high, battery can be damaged (too few battery wrt to charger capacity). This is why some manufacturers specify minimum number/maximum number in a bank.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mank1234(m): 11:10pm On Jun 14, 2016
shamecurls:




Thanks alot

Will these connection work for Eight 12v 200AH batteries? I an connecting to a 24volt inverter?

Thanks in advance


If it's true that the charging current is 15A, it means each battery will receive 3.75A which is too low a charging current. I bet you your battery is going to spoil soonest. For you envisaged setup, you need a 40A to 60A charger for optimum operation and longevity of your battery(before you change to new ones)

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by durodee(m): 7:58am On Jun 15, 2016
http://www.solar-electric.com/deep-cycle-battery-faq.html
This site gives a lot of background info!
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by shamecurls(m): 10:22am On Jun 15, 2016
mank1234:


If it's true that the charging current is 15A, it means each battery will receive 3.75A which is too low a charging current. I bet you your battery is going to spoil soonest. For you envisaged setup, you need a 40A to 60A charger for optimum operation and longevity of your battery(before you change to new ones)



Thanks alot. Appreciate.

What if i connect a 60amps charger to the bank?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by shamecurls(m): 10:31am On Jun 15, 2016
mank1234:


If it's true that the charging current is 15A, it means each battery will receive 3.75A which is too low a charging current. I bet you your battery is going to spoil soonest. For you envisaged setup, you need a 40A to 60A charger for optimum operation and longevity of your battery(before you change to new ones)

Thanks alot

Appreciate

plan to get an intelligent charger and connect with it.

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