lollz! pazienza always tread with caution but how do u explain this. Y must it be Igbo dat make white babies in the whole wide world? Not Albino but Caucasian. Do u see how dark skinned her parents are?
Pazienza is well-versed in history. I get what he was trying to say. Ancient Hebrews were not light-skinned as you have them today. They were black people, being related to/brothers to the ancient Egyptians who were also dark-skinned. One clue to this is when Herod sought to kill all little and newly-born hebrew males and Joseph and his wife were asked to go to Egypt and hide. Now as of the time of Herod, the Egyptians were known to still be black. Why would Joseph and his entire family be asked to go hide in a predominantly black country if they weren't black themselves? How does that make sense if they were white as the modern day jews? Would a white man escaping being caught hide in a black country where his skin color makes him stand out? No. Instead, a white man runs to a predominantly white country to hide. Same for a black man who would escape to a black country where he blends in easily. A white man doesn't hide in a country where it is full of blacks where he stands out and will be obviously detected easily. Joseph wasn't asked to run to nearby Jordan, nor modern-day Iraq nor Iran etc but to far-away Egypt in Africa. Egypt, being mostly black as of the time of herod, and Joseph escaping to the country to hide for many years and remain undetected all those years is an indication that the ancient Egyptians and Hebrews looked the same skinwise/racially. That should tell you something. Another example is when Joseph, the hebrew, was raised in Egypt and grew up to be a governor in Egypt and the Egyptians could not tell his was Hebrew/Non-Egyptian, the reason most likely being that both groups must have been the same racially for Joseph to grow up in the house of Pharoah as an Egyptian while still being Hebrew ancestrally. Nigerian Christians need to begin to reason certain things.
So, you are saying that Igbo ancestors were Caucasians who migrated from middle East to the scorching sun and Mosquito belt of equatorial Africa and so how managed to survive by reproducing with indigenous Bantu people they met on group, who outnumbered them by far, and over the years, the Caucasian genes became completely recessive and we all became black people we are today with a handful of us being lighskinned?
Thats a lot of speculation. Even so, it would still mean that a large part of us is Bantu, thus making us real Africans and indigenous unique black group. Don't You think so?
No dat is not wat am saying. People in the middle east are not caucasian, they are Mediterranean looking with abit of melanie in their skin.
They probably looked like this. That is somewhere in the middle between white and black.
Pazienza is well-versed in history. Ancient Hebrews were not light-skinned as you have them today. They were black people, being related to/brothers to the ancient Egyptians who were also dark-skinned. One clue to this is when Herod sought to kill all little born hebrew males and Joseph and his wife were asked to go to Egypt and hide. Now as of the time of Herod, the Egyptians were known to be still black. Why would Joseph and his entire family be asked to go hide in a predominantly black country if they were white as the modern day jews? Would a white man escaping being caught hide in a black country where his skin color makes him stand out? No. Instead, a white man runs to a predominantly white country to hide. Same for a black man who would escape to a black country where he blends in easily. A white man doesn't hide in a country where it is full of blacks where he stands out and will be obviously detected easily. Joseph wasn't asked to run to nearby Jordan, nor modern-day Iraq nor Iran etc but to far-away Egypt in Africa. Egypt, being mostly black as of the time of herod, and Joseph escaping to the country to hide for many years and remain undetected all those years is an indication that the ancient Egyptians and Hebrews looked the same skinwise/racially. That should tell you something. Another example is when Joseph, the hebrew, was raised in Egypt and grew up to be a governor in Egypt and the Egyptians could not tell his was Hebrew/Non-Egyptian, the reason most likely being that both groups must have been the same racially for Joseph to grow up in the house of Pharoah as an Egyptian while still being Hebrew ancestrally. Nigerian Christians need to begin to reason certain things.
Pazienza is well-versed in history. Ancient Hebrews were not light-skinned as you have them today. They were black people, being related to/brothers to the ancient Egyptians who were also dark-skinned. One clue to this is when Herod sought to kill all little born hebrew males and Joseph and his wife were asked to go to Egypt and hide. Now as of the time of Herod, the Egyptians were known to be still black. Why would Joseph and his entire family be asked to go hide in a predominantly black country if they were white as the modern day jews? Would a white man escaping being caught hide in a black country where his skin color makes him stand out? No. Instead, a white man runs to a predominantly white country to hide. Same for a black man who would escape to a black country where he blends in easily. A white man doesn't hide in a country where it is full of blacks where he stands out and will be obviously detected easily. Joseph wasn't asked to run to nearby Jordan, nor modern-day Iraq nor Iran etc but to far-away Egypt in Africa. Egypt, being mostly black as of the time of herod, and Joseph escaping to the country to hide for many years and remain undetected all those years is an indication that the ancient Egyptians and Hebrews looked the same skinwise/racially. That should tell you something. Another example is when Joseph, the hebrew, was raised in Egypt and grew up to be a governor in Egypt and the Egyptians could not tell his was Hebrew/Non-Egyptian, the reason most likely being that both groups must have been the same racially for Joseph to grow up in the house of Pharoah as an Egyptian while still being Hebrew ancestrally. Nigerian Christians need to begin to reason certain things.
Exactly. If at all Ndiigbo are related to Hebrews, then it must be the ancient Hebrews who were of darker hue, and not the current Caucasians occupying Palestine.
But what we see with Igbos that promote this Igbo Jew history, is a desperate attempt to link us with the current Caucasians occupying Palestine. I have no problem with us identifying with the current Caucasians occupying Palestine, as they are a very powerful group who had suffered persecution at the hands of their hosts all over the world because of their spirit of excellence and yet in the end, found a way to make themselves strong enough today to protect herself from those who hate them and return their hate in million folds to them. And even today are still surrounded by bitter enemies that seek nothing but their total annihilation from the surface of the earth.
I understand why the average Igbo would like to be linked with Israel, but we can do that without tampering with our own history.
Of course I did. To me, ancient Hebrews would look more like the Ethiopians, not like the image you posted. That image does not have any negroid racial features, despite being brown-skinned. The negroid ancient Egyptians, with whom the ancient Hebrews resembled, can still be found in lower Egypt till today and they are negroes, living in mostly the rural areas of Egypt.
Exactly. If at all Ndiigbo are related to Hebrews, then it must be the ancient Hebrews who were of darker hue, and not the current Caucasians occupying Palestine.
But what we see with Igbos that promote this Igbo Jew history, is a desperate attempt to link us with the current Caucasians occupying Palestine. I have no problem with us identifying with the current Caucasians occupying Palestine, as they are a very powerful group who had suffered persecution at the hands of their hosts all over the world because of their spirit of excellence and yet in the end, found a way to make themselves strong enough today to protect herself from those who hate them and return their hate in million folds to them. And even today are still surrounded by bitter enemies that seek nothing but their total annihilation from the surface of the earth.
I understand why the average Igbo would like to be linked with Israel, but we can do that without tampering our own history.
That's just my opinion, anyway.
They are not occupying Palestine, they merely took back their land that was forcibly taken from them through war, in fufilment of the word of God.
Of course I did. To me, ancient Hebrews would look more like the Ethiopians, not like the image you posted. That image does not have any negroid racial features, despite being brown-skinned. The negroid ancient Egyptians, with whom the ancient Hebrews resembled, can still be found in lower Egypt till today and they are negroes, living in mostly the rural areas of Egypt.
U could be right, but then, their location is the midde of the world, they would have certainly mixed with other more lighter people a stone throw away.
Even the Ethiopian u quoted look like the picture I posted.
Of course I did. To me, ancient Hebrews would look more like the Ethiopians, not like the image you posted. That image does not have any negroid racial features, despite being brown-skinned. The negroid ancient Egyptians, with whom the ancient Hebrews resembled, can still be found in lower Egypt till today and they are negroes, living in mostly the rural areas of Egypt.
In addition to the two Josephs mistaken as Egyptians, Moses and Paul, Hebrews, were mistaken severally to be Egyptians. Quoting from the Christian bible:
Paul: "And as Paul was to be led into the castle, he said unto the chief captain, May I speak unto thee? Who said, Canst thou speak Greek? Art not thou (Paul) that Egyptian, which before these days madest an uproar... But Paul said, I am a man which am a Jew" (Acts 21:37-39).
Moses: "Now the priest of Midian had seven daughters: and they came and drew water, and filled the troughs to water their father's flock. And the shepherds came and drove them away: but Moses stood up and helped them, and watered their flock. And when they came to Reuel their father, he said, How is it that ye are come so soon to day? And they said, an Egyptian delivered us out of the hand of the shepherds..." (Exodus 2:19).
Blessings for Obedience 28 If you fully obey the Lord your God and carefully follow all his commands I give you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations on earth. 2 All these blessings will come on you and accompany you if you obey the Lord your God:
3 You will be blessed in the city and blessed in the country.
4 The fruit of your womb will be blessed, and the crops of your land and the young of your livestock—the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks.
5 Your basket and your kneading trough will be blessed.
6 You will be blessed when you come in and blessed when you go out.
7 The Lord will grant that the enemies who rise up against you will be defeated before you. They will come at you from one direction but flee from you in seven.
8 The Lord will send a blessing on your barns and on everything you put your hand to. The Lord your God will bless you in the land he is giving you.
9 The Lord will establish you as his holy people, as he promised you on oath, if you keep the commands of the Lord your God and walk in obedience to him. 10 Then all the peoples on earth will see that you are called by the name of the Lord, and they will fear you. 11 The Lord will grant you abundant prosperity—in the fruit of your womb, the young of your livestock and the crops of your ground—in the land he swore to your ancestors to give you.
12 The Lord will open the heavens, the storehouse of his bounty, to send rain on your land in season and to bless all the work of your hands. You will lend to many nations but will borrow from none. 13 The Lord will make you the head, not the tail. If you pay attention to the commands of the Lord your God that I give you this day and carefully follow them, you will always be at the top, never at the bottom. 14 Do not turn aside from any of the commands I give you today, to the right or to the left, following other gods and serving them.
Curses for Disobedience 15 However, if you do not obey the Lord your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come on you and overtake you:
16 You will be cursed in the city and cursed in the country.
17 Your basket and your kneading trough will be cursed.
18 The fruit of your womb will be cursed, and the crops of your land, and the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks.
19 You will be cursed when you come in and cursed when you go out.
20 The Lord will send on you curses, confusion and rebuke in everything you put your hand to, until you are destroyed and come to sudden ruin because of the evil you have done in forsaking him.[a] 21 The Lord will plague you with diseases until he has destroyed you from the land you are entering to possess. 22 The Lord will strike you with wasting disease, with fever and inflammation, with scorching heat and drought, with blight and mildew, which will plague you until you perish. 23 The sky over your head will be bronze, the ground beneath you iron. 24 The Lord will turn the rain of your country into dust and powder; it will come down from the skies until you are destroyed.
25 The Lord will cause you to be defeated before your enemies. You will come at them from one direction but flee from them in seven, and you will become a thing of horror to all the kingdoms on earth. 26 Your carcasses will be food for all the birds and the wild animals, and there will be no one to frighten them away. 27 The Lord will afflict you with the boils of Egypt and with tumors, festering sores and the itch, from which you cannot be cured. 28 The Lord will afflict you with madness, blindness and confusion of mind. 29 At midday you will grope about like a blind person in the dark. You will be unsuccessful in everything you do; day after day you will be oppressed and robbed, with no one to rescue you.
30 You will be pledged to be married to a woman, but another will take her and rape her. You will build a house, but you will not live in it. You will plant a vineyard, but you will not even begin to enjoy its fruit. 31 Your ox will be slaughtered before your eyes, but you will eat none of it. Your donkey will be forcibly taken from you and will not be returned. Your sheep will be given to your enemies, and no one will rescue them. 32 Your sons and daughters will be given to another nation, and you will wear out your eyes watching for them day after day, powerless to lift a hand. 33 A people that you do not know will eat what your land and labor produce, and you will have nothing but cruel oppression all your days. 34 The sights you see will drive you mad. 35 The Lord will afflict your knees and legs with painful boils that cannot be cured, spreading from the soles of your feet to the top of your head.
36 The Lord will drive you and the king you set over you to a nation unknown to you or your ancestors. There you will worship other gods, gods of wood and stone. 37 You will become a thing of horror, a byword and an object of ridicule among all the peoples where the Lord will drive you.
38 You will sow much seed in the field but you will harvest little, because locusts will devour it. 39 You will plant vineyards and cultivate them but you will not drink the wine or gather the grapes, because worms will eat them. 40 You will have olive trees throughout your country but you will not use the oil, because the olives will drop off. 41 You will have sons and daughters but you will not keep them, because they will go into captivity. 42 Swarms of locusts will take over all your trees and the crops of your land.
43 The foreigners who reside among you will rise above you higher and higher, but you will sink lower and lower. 44 They will lend to you, but you will not lend to them. They will be the head, but you will be the tail.
45 All these curses will come on you. They will pursue you and overtake you until you are destroyed, because you did not obey the Lord your God and observe the commands and decrees he gave you. 46 They will be a sign and a wonder to you and your descendants forever. 47 Because you did not serve the Lord your God joyfully and gladly in the time of prosperity, 48 therefore in hunger and thirst, in unclothedness and dire poverty, you will serve the enemies the Lord sends against you. He will put an iron yoke on your neck until he has destroyed you.
49 The Lord will bring a nation against you from far away, from the ends of the earth, like an eagle swooping down, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a fierce-looking nation without respect for the old or pity for the young. 51 They will devour the young of your livestock and the crops of your land until you are destroyed. They will leave you no grain, new wine or olive oil, nor any calves of your herds or lambs of your flocks until you are ruined. 52 They will lay siege to all the cities throughout your land until the high fortified walls in which you trust fall down. They will besiege all the cities throughout the land the Lord your God is giving you.
53 Because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you. 54 Even the most gentle and sensitive man among you will have no compassion on his own brother or the wife he loves or his surviving children, 55 and he will not give to one of them any of the flesh of his children that he is eating. It will be all he has left because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of all your cities. 56 The most gentle and sensitive woman among you—so sensitive and gentle that she would not venture to touch the ground with the sole of her foot—will begrudge the husband she loves and her own son or daughter 57 the afterbirth from her womb and the children she bears. For in her dire need she intends to eat them secretly because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of your cities.
58 If you do not carefully follow all the words of this law, which are written in this book, and do not revere this glorious and awesome name—the Lord your God— 59 the Lord will send fearful plagues on you and your descendants, harsh and prolonged disasters, and severe and lingering illnesses. 60 He will bring on you all the diseases of Egypt that you dreaded, and they will cling to you. 61 The Lord will also bring on you every kind of sickness and disaster not recorded in this Book of the Law, until you are destroyed. 62 You who were as numerous as the stars in the sky will be left but few in number, because you did not obey the Lord your God. 63 Just as it pleased the Lord to make you prosper and increase in number, so it will please him to ruin and destroy you. You will be uprooted from the land you are entering to possess.
64 Then the Lord will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods—gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your ancestors have known. 65 Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole of your foot. There the Lord will give you an anxious mind, eyes weary with longing, and a despairing heart. 66 You will live in constant suspense, filled with dread both night and day, never sure of your life. 67 In the morning you will say, “If only it were evening!” and in the evening, “If only it were morning!”—because of the terror that will fill your hearts and the sights that your eyes will see. 68 The Lord will send you back in ships to Egypt on a journey I said you should never make again. There you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.
53 Because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you. 54 Even the most gentle and sensitive man among you will have no compassion on his own brother or the wife he loves or his surviving children, 55 and he will not give to one of them any of the flesh of his children that he is eating. It will be all he has left because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of all your cities. 56 The most gentle and sensitive woman among you—so sensitive and gentle that she would not venture to touch the ground with the sole of her foot—will begrudge the husband she loves and her own son or daughter 57 the afterbirth from her womb and the children she bears. For in her dire need she intends to eat them secretly because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of your cities.
49 The Lord will bring a nation against you from far away, from the ends of the earth, like an eagle swooping down, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a fierce-looking nation without respect for the old or pity for the young. 51 They will devour the young of your livestock and the crops of your land until you are destroyed. They will leave you no grain, new wine or olive oil, nor any calves of your herds or lambs of your flocks until you are ruined. 52 They will lay siege to all the cities throughout your land until the high fortified walls in which you trust fall down. They will besiege all the cities throughout the land the Lord your God is giving you.
This one is with regards to dispossession of properties. OK, it can only happen outside Igbo land, but Nnamdi Kanu said a time will come wen it will happen in Igboland.
30 You will be pledged to be married to a woman, but another will take her and rape her. You will build a house, but you will not live in it. You will plant a vineyard, but you will not even begin to enjoy its fruit. 31 Your ox will be slaughtered before your eyes, but you will eat none of it. Your donkey will be forcibly taken from you and will not be returned. Your sheep will be given to your enemies, and no one will rescue them. 32 Your sons and daughters will be given to another nation, and you will wear out your eyes watching for them day after day, powerless to lift a hand. 33 A people that you do not know will eat what your land and labor produce, and you will have nothing but cruel oppression all your days. 34 The sights you see will drive you mad. 35 The Lord will afflict your knees and legs with painful boils that cannot be cured, spreading from the soles of your feet to the top of your head.
bigfrancis21: In addition to the two Josephs mistaken as Egyptians, Moses and Paul, Hebrews, were mistaken severally to be Egyptians. Quoting from the Christian bible:
Paul: "And as Paul was to be led into the castle, he said unto the chief captain, May I speak unto thee? Who said, Canst thou speak Greek? Art not thou (Paul) that Egyptian, which before these days madest an uproar... But Paul said, I am a man which am a Jew" (Acts 21:37-39).
Moses: "Now the priest of Midian had seven daughters: and they came and drew water, and filled the troughs to water their father's flock. And the shepherds came and drove them away: but Moses stood up and helped them, and watered their flock. And when they came to Reuel their father, he said, How is it that ye are come so soon to day? And they said, an Egyptian delivered us out of the hand of the shepherds..." (Exodus 2:19).
So as u can see with this evidence, they lived and interacted with the Arabs and Co as u put it.
That is y i said on return into Africa, dey would have been light skinned, not dark.
emmysoftyou: SOME IGBO WORDS THAT ARE SAME MEANING WITH HEBREW , FURTHER EVIDENCE OF IGBO _JEWISH LINEAGE. HEBREW IGBO same meaning _Hebrew _________ igbo_____ Same meaning ABAH ABA ADAH ADA FIRST DAUGHTER AGUR AGU lion Ahi Ahia market Amarih Amara grace Ara Ara mad Ayya Anya eye Aziza Aziza broom Chema Chima God knows Eber Ebere mercy Ezer Eze king. Chief Geba Geba move on Genesis Ge na isi isi _ go to the beginning Hagaba Ha_ga_ba let them go Salu Dalu well done Raphu Rapu leave it Sobe Sobe follow Ubal Uba wealth Zaam Zaam please answer me
This is just a few words out of thousands of others similar in meaning between IGBO and HEBREW . What more can you ask for to know that the IBOS are of JEWISH heritage
The Hebrew words are wrong or not the right translations. There's no such thing as Chi in Hebrew so why would somebody lie and say "Chema" is God knows in Hebrew, Chima isn't even God knows in Igbo.
Tigers are native to Asia. In ancient times, our forefathers did not know tigers, only leopards. Thus they gave names to only the animals they encountered. Thus, agu = leopard. However, the modern term now has expanded to also mean tiger.
Tigers are native to Asia. In ancient times, our forefathers did not know tigers, only leopards. Thus they gave names to only the animals they encountered. Thus, agu = leopard. However, the modern term now has expanded to also mean tiger.
You know your history... Thanks for the enlightenment
This would have been funny if it wasn't so sad. So basically someone just sat down with a Bible and picked out Biblical names that sound close to some Igbo words; and without caring to find out what the names mean in Hebrew just assumed that they share cognatic relationship with the Igbo words.
Well, I have bad news. None of the Hebrew words there have the same meaning with their Igbo 'look-alikes'.
Adah means 'adornment' not 'first daughter'.
Ahi means 'brother', not 'market'.
Aziza means 'powerful', not 'broom'.
Agur means 'collector/gatherer', not 'leopard'.
Genesis is not even a Hebrew word; it is Greek.
At least learn how comparative linguistics work before coming up with this type of stuff.
The Hebrew (whether Ashkenazi or Sephardic or Mizraic or whatever race it was that went by that name in ancient times) is/was not your brother. Your kin are closer home.
lollz! pazienza always tread with caution but how do u explain this. Y must it be Igbo dat make white babies in the whole wide world? Not Albino but Caucasian. Do u see how dark skinned her parents are?
