ProudtobeaMUMUM:
I wouldn't say the atheists, They have no hand in this, all religion have a hand in this, Atheists have nothing to do with indecency

Goodlyhrt:
Atheism set the stage by removing all moral ground to fear the unknown thereby shaking the balance of nature

NairalandCS:


Its funny how Christians blame everything on Satan, Atheism, etc but themselves.

Goodlyhrt:
Seeing Explorers topic about the evolution of Bikinis/Beach wears on FP I weep for this world.


Because of this evil beast named atheism the standards for morality have sorely depleted. People dont consider conscience anymore they just go on and do whatever they like so long it pleases them and the law is not in their tails: Stealing is allowed so long you can evade the law (not caught) prostitution and indecency so long you are minding your business and not causing harm to people.


Why should we care about morality since atheism teaches people that there is no God (Al powerful, al knowing holy and uncomproming spotless being), in their ideology the constitution is the supreme power, but since man made the constitution and man can change it then why dont we all strive to be in a position of influencing the constitution to suit us as we wish.


Thereby making all means and vices to get to power blameless because thats all that matters since there isnt any recompence nor reward for evil, makin useless the saying what goes around comes around and the law of karma worthless. Because according to the atheist If the above is not controlled by man then its non-existant.

Think about this

What now!!

I'm AGNOSTIC

Your ignorance stinks to the high heavens(Metaphor)

Atheism to my verified knowledge about it "doesn't promote moral indecency" that thinking emanates from the literal representation of what you were told by an opinionated subjective man that you never met and his tales written in a book

You can't blame an intelligent person from doubting the existence of a god that the only "proofs" that can be presented are "written text" that were arranged and complied by man(subjective, opinionated and dogmatic)

Having said that......... Atheism has/will never lead to the decay of moral civility, Human being are who they are | If you need the fear of a god and the promise of paradise to be decent then you are clearly not a decent person. #incontrovertible truth

Davidgrey:
What now!!

I'm AGNOSTIC

Your ignorance stinks to the high heavens(Metaphor)

Atheism to my verified knowledge about it "doesn't promote moral indecency" that thinking emanates from the literal representation of what you were told by an opinionated subjective man that you never met and his tales written in a book

You can't blame an intelligent person from doubting the existence of a god that the only "proofs" that can be presented are "written text" that were arranged and complied by man(subjective, opinionated and dogmatic)

Having said that......... Atheism has/will never lead to the decay of moral civility, Human being are who they are | If you need the fear of a god and the promise of paradise to be decent then you are clearly not a decent person. #incontrovertible truth

Goodlyhrt:
Seeing Explorers topic about the evolution of Bikinis/Beach wears on FP I weep for this world.


Because of this evil beast named atheism the standards for morality have sorely depleted. People dont consider conscience anymore they just go on and do whatever they like so long it pleases them and the law is not in their tails: Stealing is allowed so long you can evade the law (not caught) prostitution and indecency so long you are minding your business and not causing harm to people.


Why should we care about morality since atheism teaches people that there is no God (Al powerful, al knowing holy and uncomproming spotless being), in their ideology the constitution is the supreme power, but since man made the constitution and man can change it then why dont we all strive to be in a position of influencing the constitution to suit us as we wish.


Thereby making all means and vices to get to power blameless because thats all that matters since there isnt any recompence nor reward for evil, makin useless the saying what goes around comes around and the law of karma worthless. Because according to the atheist If the above is not controlled by man then its non-existant.

Think about this

QuietHammer:

This is the dumbest thing I've read this month.
cc: sen, hopefullalord, han, johnydon22, darkebel69.

DarkRebel69:


Maybe not dumb, but no doubt a large litter of ignorance. I hope I wasn't quoted because I'm wrongly thought of as an atheist, because I'm not one.

@OP, "Is the Pious pious because he is loved by the gods, or is the Pious pious because he is pious?", said Socrates to Euthyphro.

Ask yourself, which is the nobler of the two, to be good and upright without any promise of happiness nor fortune in the after-life, or to be good and upright only on pain of eternal damnation in Hell?

I think it's been long debunked that morality and religiosity are not quite mutually exclusive as some like to believe, one can surely exist without the intrusion of the other. It's a cognitive failue to think there can be no sense of right or evil without religion. Man has always known it's a crime against Nature to murder his fellow man, even long before the advent of the Bible or Qu'ran. We have our superegos (conscience), don't we?

A cursory glance at the Nigerian clime would put paid to your irresponsible claims, 'cause what you'll find is a country teeming with churches and mosques, and yet remains rife with corruption, public thievery, and social injustice. Perhaps the dung on the rotten cake is that the executors of these sins are usually of the religious ilk. What happened to religion instilling goodness in people's hearts?

QuietHammer:

My apologies.

I just had to listen to Allegri's Miserere again. Wonderful!

Goodlyhrt:
You've ended up being more foolish than I thought.


Have you asked yourself what is the origin of morality...


That aside your postulation that Humans can co-habit without the fear of a higher power is flawed and yes humans cannot live moralily without the fear or reward or recompense of a higher power



Look up the word ''conscience''

lol!!! As always unbacked ignorant ramblings

You think that something is true yet have no evidence to support your claims and want people to think that way

You can't impose ignorant gibberish on people and expect people to look away

I don't have issues with whatever form of religious delusion you choose to embed yourself in.......My only concern is correcting your "obvious" lies with "objectively verifiable truths"

DarkRebel69:


Indeed, it's a wonderful piece of music. More interesting perhaps is the fascinating history behind it.
When Gregorio Allegri composed the piece and after it was performed by the Vatican's choir during the Tenebrae service on the Holy Week, it was so good that Pope Urban VIII banned it from being performed outside the Sistine Chapel. Whoever dared perform it outside of the Vatican walls was to face excommunication from the Church. Copies of the music were given to only three individuals: the Holy Roman Emperor, the King of Portugal, and a cardinal. Even so, the copies given to them lacked the special ornamentation of the original composed by Allegri.

In fact, we are only able to hear of it today because of the initiative and ingenuity of fourteen-year old Mozart. Mozart went to Rome with his dad, Leopold, heard the Miserere for the first time, then went home and transcribed the entire piece from memory. Impressive, innit? He went back on the second day of the Tenebrae so he could hear it again and make corrections, before sending it to Charles Burney in England, wherefrom it spread far and wide. It was only then, when the Vatican's prized musical secret had been leaked by Mozart that Pope Clement IV lifted the sanction that had been imposed on it. Not only that, Pope Clement IV was very impressed with Mozart's brilliance and feat of memory, so that he bestowed knighthood on him.

That version on my profile is Mozart's version, and not quite what you'll hear from the Vatican choir, although it remains mesmeric in its own rights.
Here, I've posted the original version for your benefit:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8fI72TFFKY

DarkRebel69:


Indeed, it's a wonderful piece of music. More interesting perhaps is the fascinating history behind it.
When Gregorio Allegri composed the piece and after it was performed by the Vatican's choir during the Tenebrae service on the Holy Week, it was so good that Pope Urban VIII banned it from being performed outside the Sistine Chapel. Whoever dared perform it outside of the Vatican walls was to face excommunication from the Church. Copies of the music were given to only three individuals: the Holy Roman Emperor, the King of Portugal, and a cardinal. Even so, the copies given to them lacked the special ornamentation of the original composed by Allegri.

In fact, we are only able to hear of it today because of the initiative and ingenuity of fourteen-year old Mozart. Mozart went to Rome with his dad, Leopold, heard the Miserere for the first time, then went home and transcribed the entire piece from memory. Impressive, innit? He went back on the second day of the Tenebrae so he could hear it again and make corrections, before sending it to Charles Burney in England, wherefrom it spread far and wide. It was only then, when the Vatican's prized musical secret had been leaked by Mozart that Pope Clement IV lifted the sanction that had been imposed on it. Not only that, Pope Clement IV was very impressed with Mozart's brilliance and feat of memory, so that he bestowed knighthood on him.

That version on my profile is Mozart's version, and not quite what you'll hear from the Vatican choir, although it remains mesmeric in its own rights.
Here, I've posted the original version for your benefit:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8fI72TFFKY

100naira:
the one I listened to is the Tallis scholars version. Do you know any other songs that are like this? This type of songs soothes my mind.

DarkRebel69:


Did you listen to the Tallis scholars' version before today?

Sure, here are some you might enjoy, they are all used in Catholic liturgy:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3H5f7oePQE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Glyu7tEWU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2xX8tWaTx4

Goodlyhrt:
Have you asked yourself what is the origin of morality...

Goodlyhrt:
Seeing Explorers topic about the evolution of Bikinis/Beach wears on FP I weep for this world.


Because of this evil beast named atheism the standards for morality have sorely depleted. People dont consider conscience anymore they just go on and do whatever they like so long it pleases them and the law is not in their tails: Stealing is allowed so long you can evade the law (not caught) prostitution and indecency so long you are minding your business and not causing harm to people.


Why should we care about morality since atheism teaches people that there is no God (Al powerful, al knowing holy and uncomproming spotless being), in their ideology the constitution is the supreme power, but since man made the constitution and man can change it then why dont we all strive to be in a position of influencing the constitution to suit us as we wish.


Thereby making all means and vices to get to power blameless because thats all that matters since there isnt any recompence nor reward for evil, makin useless the saying what goes around comes around and the law of karma worthless. Because according to the atheist If the above is not controlled by man then its non-existant.

Think about this

Joeblack01:
Op blame it on we Christians.
We stopped living the Christian life long ago. All what we do now is eye service Christianity.

How pure is you personal life ?

How many of We Christians can claim to be CHRISTIAN ? in all honesty ?

hopefulLandlord:


I see you abandoned your own thread after being whooped but I'm actually very interested in the above

kindly educate us by telling us the origin of morality and provide proof of it, go ahead