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Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by liab: 3:22pm On Aug 08, 2017
Inside Abuja Church Where Tithe, Offering Are Outlawed

There is now a church operating in the heart of Abuja which does not collect tithe nor offering from members, SUNDAY ISUWA reports.

Givers Embassy, aka Home of Consular Generals, was formally established in the heart of Abuja at the conference hall of 3J’s Hotel last Sunday, 30th July, 2017.

What stands the church out is that it neither collects tithe nor offering from members. The church, according to the pastor, is dedicated to the service of humanity especially Nigerians who are mostly poor in the midst of plenty.

Givers Embassy has a football club called, “Givers Shooters FC (1Timothy 4:cool.” The players were selected from local football fields, it was gathered.

During the inauguration service, the church commenced with greetings and after a warm welcome address, an opening prayer ensued.

The first hymn followed thereafter with praise and worship. There were scriptural readings and intercessory prayers for the nation. Thanksgiving and personal prayers were also offered.

After a drama presentation, there was Psalm chant and a presentation called, “project free Nigeria,” a talk show magazine programme on nationhood.

Just after the second scriptural reading was offered, special guests were celebrated with another special hymn and thereafter, the preaching of the word.

There was dedication with a second set of worship songs, benediction, hallelujah chorus and withdrawal hymn which followed with dance.

After the dance, food was offered to members before the second service – business and investment service which commenced at 3pm.

“Givers Embassy exists to raise Consular Generals for God’s kingdom on earth. We give visas to houses, cars and businesses. Above all, we give visas to things that make life meaningful.”

“These consular generals would, through their devotion to God’s word, worship, and worthy living, inspire the much needed spiritual and socio-economic transformation in their lives and that of others,” the pastor of the church, Edward Olutoke said.

The maiden church service had a former presidential adviser, Dr. Sarah Jibrin in attendance where widows were given forms to fill under “Project Father A Child.” (James 1:27).

Widows who filled the forms will start receiving N20, 000 every month starting from August.

“The problem of our society is greed. It’s not Boko Haram, it’s not biafra. If we can solve the problem of greed in Nigeria, we will be better for it,” the pastor of the newly established church, Edward Olutoke said shortly after the first church service.

“In Nigeria, we don’t give back to the society. People who give back, give peanuts. We don’t need to only feed the people who are in poverty, we need to give them life. Instead of giving them fish, we teach them how to catch the fish,” Olutoke said.

Speaking on why his church doesn’t collect tithes and offering, Olutoke said the vision came from God.

“God told me that as the owner of the church, he would build and sustain the church. God asked me not to collect tithes and offering. We are to help the needy. God said any member of the church who wants to touch other people’s lives can do it directly to the needy.”

“The Holy Spirit is leading us and we don’t want people to believe that they must bring offering to church before they are blessed, no. If I give offering in the church while a woman close to me is dying of hunger, what have I done? As a Christian, I should not allow that woman to die. The God who created the woman won’t be happy with me if I packaged an offering to the church while she is suffering,” the pastor said.

He called on Christians to allow the Holy Spirit to lead them adding that, “People set up churches in the villages that don’t even have roads and instead of catering for them, they collect N100, N50 from them and take it to the city to people who are already rich. Something is definitely wrong because that community may not have water, electricity, good roads and other essential things that make life meaningful.”

“So, we are supposed to look at our environment. Let us learn to take care of our environment and that is what we do at Givers Embassy. If you want to be packaging your tithes and offering directly to the poor, we don’t want to know, just do it.”

“This is not our project. It is God’s project. We know that people make a lot of money in Nigeria. Some don’t even know how to help others. We will be reaching out to people who are doing well in Nigeria that can be giving widows N20, 000 every month.”

“I know over 500 people I have helped who are doing very well in businesses. I’ve contacted some of them and on a monthly basis, as God is blessing them, some of them have taken the responsibility of given not less than five women N20, 000 each every month. We have started with the first batch and as more people give, we will be expanding it to every community in Nigeria,” Olutoke said.

The pastor said that apart from the morning services, they will be doing business and investment services in the evening of every Sunday to help in the empowerment of the widows and other Nigerians.

“We have state coordinators that will be training the widows on how to do businesses from the monthly N20, 000 they will be receiving under the project Father A Child.”

“These same children of the widows will turn out wealthy tomorrow and they will build houses for the poor. That is how we want our society to grow,” he added.

Pastor Olutoke sited Deuteronomy 15:7- 11, Luke 6:38 and Proverbs 14: 31.”

Even though the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) could not immediately comment on the newly established church, some Christian leaders and theologians have expressed divergent views over the giving of tithes and offering.

A Christian author, Richard Anthony who wrote about tithe, said the first time “tithe” is mentioned in scripture is in the book of Genesis.

“In Genesis chapter 14, there was a war. Abram was victorious in this war: Proverbs 3:9, says: “Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the first fruits of all thine increase. See also I Peter 5:2, “Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind,” he said.

The National President, Nigeria Christian Graduate Fellowship, Prof. Charles Adisa said “If we are talking about tithes and offerings, we have laid some scriptural background which can be summed up as ‘’Tithing is an ordinance instituted by God in the scriptures, and continued even in the New Testament, never condemned by God, Jesus Christ nor his disciples/followers.”

“It is the basic minimum of 10 percent of our total income and earnings. There is no restriction on giving more than the 10 percent by God, but severe penalties for not practising it. Read Numbers 18:21-24, Mathew 23:23, Luke 11:42; Lev 27:30-32.”

“Truly, I don’t know anything about this church, but reading the statements made by the pastor, I believe that the tithes and offerings are not being discouraged from being brought into the church, however, they are specific about who it goes to and that’s to the widows and the orphans.”

“Tithes and offerings are not meant to enrich pastors and their families. That is one massive sickness plaguing most churches in Nigeria.”

“I pray that God will bless their ministry because honestly I have prayed and fasted for years for a church in Nigeria that will address the ever growing needs and horrible plights of widows and orphans, and I’ve not given up,” said a Christian leader, Mrs Vivian Pam.

Rev Zenald Zidon Love while reacting, said, “Those who are receiving tithes are not ungodly and no one should condemn those doing it. From the time of old, tithe has its use in the house of God so if others are not using tithe for its original purpose does not mean that receiving tithes is evil or wrong,” he said.

Another Christian leader, Jacob Marshal Neyu said there was no any place the Givers Embassy pastor condemned any church that collects tithes and offering.

He said: “Our duty as Christians is to pray, if really it’s God’s vision, it will stand the test of time. That’s my opinion and I stand to be corrected.”

Responding to LEADERSHIP Sunday’s enquiry, another Christian leader, who only gave his name as Rev Dr Shuaibu, said addition or subtraction in the Word of God has its consequences.

“What is the motive behind such an operation if it is not the Gospel we preach? Jesus Christ would teach that give to Caesar what belongs to him and to God what belongs to Him. If Jesus came to fulfil the law, how did he fulfil the area that is championed?”

“Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now here with, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the Lord of hosts. And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the Lord of hosts. Malachi 3:8-12 KJV,” he said.

“Read Hebrews 7:5-6 KJV. Some may say that tithing was only practiced in the Old Testament, but the Bible, being complete also speaks of tithing in the New Testament. In fact, in the New Testament, it is a command for the priest to collect tithes of their members, their brethren,” said Malachi Agwaatyap.

For Joseph Oloyemi Olotu, in Matthew 23:23, the Master Himself didn’t condemn tithe.

“Even offering too. He commended the widow who gave her all. The New Testament is the fulfilment of the old with some amendment by the Master. After all, most of the serious promises we claim are from the Old Testament, why didn’t we say they are New Testament stuff? The scripture is whole, written at different times but inspired by His Spirit. Therefore, though some were written under Judaism, they are still powerful even today.” Olotu said.


Source: http://leadership.ng/2017/08/06/inside-abuja-church-tithe-offering-outlawed/

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by Jostico: 3:27pm On Aug 08, 2017
We all have them here in Nigeria. good o e dey....... bad o e dey. Nigeria is hard to explain

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by Pierocash(m): 3:49pm On Aug 08, 2017
End time church.This is a satanic church

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by sarrki(m): 3:50pm On Aug 08, 2017
Herevi come next sunday
Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by sarrki(m): 3:51pm On Aug 08, 2017
Pierocash:
End time church.This is a satanic church

My people perished coz of lack of knowledge

Malachi 3:10 is old testament

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by sarrki(m): 3:52pm On Aug 08, 2017
Jostico:
We all have them here in Nigeria. good o e dey....... bad o e dey. Nigeria is hard to explain

We are in new testament

Old things have passed away

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by Pierocash(m): 3:57pm On Aug 08, 2017
sarrki:


My people perished coz of lack of knowledge

Malachi 3:10 is old testament
One JW spotted. Evn in the days of christ ppl pay tithe.Any church misleading u to go contrary to the bible is satanic

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by sarrki(m): 4:05pm On Aug 08, 2017
Pierocash:
One JW spotted. Evn in the days of christ ppl pay tithe.Any church misleading u to go contrary to the bible is satanic

You must be a worker or benefitting from the tithe

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by Pinkblue(m): 5:08pm On Aug 08, 2017
sarrki:

You must be a worker or benefitting from the tithe
my thoughts exactly

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by Pierocash(m): 7:28pm On Aug 08, 2017
sarrki:


You must be a worker or benefitting from the tithe
Yes! I am a worker in the House of God and will work for God till i die.On whether i am benefitting from tithe, the answer is emphatic yes, i pay my tithe consistently and have been benefitting frm the blessings of tithing and will continue to benefit the blessing.If u are nt a tither,i advice to tap into such Kingdom principle for financial fortune to be ur portion.No non tither can be blessed.argue it Frm Here till 2mrw,u cannot do anything against the truth bt for the truth

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by Gloria3389(f): 8:27pm On Aug 08, 2017
Generation of False knowledge....hmmm

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by Nobody: 8:46pm On Aug 08, 2017
sarrki:


My people perished coz of lack of knowledge

Malachi 3:10 is old testament
Abraham tithed before the old testament

*Not all parts of the section Old testament represents the Old covenant of Moses. Prior to the law given by God Abraham and Isaac had paid tithe.

Now to address the post. There I a difference between Alms and Tithe. The Alm is what u gi ve to the poor and tithe what you give to church. Never mix it together. You may not understand the full extent to denying the church funds until it happens. If everyone chooses to give their tithe to the poor the Christian order and power would crash.

I was blessed today by TD jakes message and that only happened because some christian somewhere choose to support his ministry with funds which in turn gave him d opportunity to minister to me here in Nigeria. Those Christians may not know me but I am blessed by their sacrifice.

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by paschu: 9:25pm On Aug 08, 2017
Abraham's payment of tithe was recorded once in the entire old testament. This implies that he paid his tithe voluntarily and by God's leading - just like when he sacrificed Isaac. It was not compulsory. Tithe did not become compulsory until the conquest of Canaan and the formal institutionalization of the Levitical Order and Aaronic Priesthood.

This Levitical Order coupled with the Aaronic Priesthood, was put aside by the death and resurrection of Christ. So there is no more need for daily burnt offerings and animal sacrifices. No more need for the PROFESSIONAL priesthood. This is actually why Paul said that he would rather die working with his hands than depend solely on the Church for survival.

Thus I found it curious when you claimed that Tithe is meant for the Church. Can you please prove that assertion scripturally without going out of context?

Please note that I am not in anyway asking anyone to stop paying tithe. But please take this from me, and write it down somewhere. What the Pastor in the OP is doing is the future of the church. That is the ONLY WAY the Church can survive the coming global Anti-Christ movement and large scale uprising against ALL FORMS OF ORGANIZED RELIGION.

The KIND OF PRACTICAL SACRIFICIAL LOVE which this Pastor is proclaiming now is the Church's LONE ticket to survival in the coming years. And you can take that to the Bank.

One more thing: The Pastor made a profound statement when he said that he cannot teach people that they have to bring money to church BEFORE God can bless them.

Friend that's the root of the matter. The idea that you have to STRUGGLE to EARN God's blessings for yourself is the biggest favor the Church is doing the anti-Christ spirit. As times goes on, Science and humanistic advancement in knowledge will make most of these things easily accessible to ALL with little or zero efforts. This commonalization of the so called blessings will make the current teachings of the Organized Church lose its present appeal. In fact this is already happening. And this is what the anti-Christ will capitalize on. The only counter we have is the message of PRACTICAL LOVE (which the OP is proclaiming) and making sure that the Church people start using their minds and embracing real education.

Again, the only thing that will prevent the rich, weak or poor church members from embracing the lure of anti-Christ is a timely eradication of the spirit of Selfishness (which is the root of greed and every other evil) and prompt enthronement of the CULTURE OF PRACTICAL LOVE - just as the first disciples did. This is why Jesus said that the only way the world would know that He is with us is when we love each other the way he had loved us and died for us while we were still sinners.

The Church of the end time will congregate in tiny circles of influences at homes, work/market places and in the streets. It's not going to be at the cathedrals and huge auditoriums as usual.

Professional priesthood is already loosing credibility, soon it will lose influence.


Statsocial:

Abraham tithed before the old testament

*Not all parts of the section Old testament represents the Old covenant of Moses. Prior to the law given by God Abraham and Isaac had paid tithe.

Now to address the post. There I a difference between Alms and Tithe. The Alm is what u gi ve to the poor and tithe what you give to church. Never mix it together. You may not understand the full extent to denying the church funds until it happens. If everyone chooses to give their tithe to the poor the Christian order and power would crash.

I was blessed today by TD jakes message and that only happened because some christian somewhere choose to support his ministry with funds which in turn gave him d opportunity to minister to me here in Nigeria. Those Christians may not know me but I am blessed by their sacrifice.

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by Kondomatic(m): 10:49pm On Aug 08, 2017
Pierocash:
One JW spotted. Evn in the days of christ ppl pay tithe.Any church misleading u to go contrary to the bible is satanic
Show me where people paid tithe in the new testament please

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by Kondomatic(m): 10:50pm On Aug 08, 2017
Pierocash:
Yes! I am a worker in the House of God and will work for God till i die.On whether i am benefitting from tithe, the answer is emphatic yes, i pay my tithe consistently and have been benefitting frm the blessings of tithing and will continue to benefit the blessing.If u are nt a tither,i advice to tap into such Kingdom principle for financial fortune to be ur portion.No non tither can be blessed.argue it Frm Here till 2mrw,u cannot do anything against the truth bt for the truth
No non tither can be blessed? Dangote, Buhari, etc paid tithe to you? Be reasonable please

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by kennydee05(m): 11:14pm On Aug 08, 2017
I still like my Church where payment of Tithe and offering are acceptable.

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by Topgainer: 11:53pm On Aug 08, 2017
Pierocash:
End time church.This is a satanic church
Bishop take it easy, that will not stop this year's Shiloh of CanaanLand. You got followers and a fair share of the Church Market.
Acts 4:32-34; Charity and sharing were the keywords in the early Church. In sane countries Churches are registered as Charity organizations and the financial auditing there is as seen in other such organizations/foundations.

Acts 6:2 The second thing which the Church was known for is sharing words of encouragement from the Bible. A depressed man walks into a church and leaves with both words of encouragement and provisions for his immediate needs. Such immediate needs primarily do not exceed what we call basic needs of food, clothing and shelter. The sharing of the words takes precedence because it is believed that with soul-lifting words some can be inspired to challenge themselves and proffer solutions to their difficult problems.

Today, we have business centers built around a man who says to his sheeples
"bring all the money to me, because I and only I, are authorized to share it to the poor, or rather I will invest it for the poor through building Universities, Estates and Cooperations for the poor, they will be employed there "
"I am your ordained Levite priest, bring the tithe to me because I own no buildings, lands and businesses of my own"
Pastor Edward Olutoke is set to war against the ordained African "Levites" and they will fight to finish to maintain the status quo. They will dig up scriptures to back that the money should be given to the Bishop and the fake Levites who alone know how to share it to the poor.

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by Topgainer: 12:13am On Aug 09, 2017
kennydee05:
I still like my Church where payment of Tithe and offering are acceptable.
Remind me again the passage where payment of tithe (indicating money) is in your Bible. The Jews gave tithe and not payed tithe. The things they were asked to give were for the temple store house and the items were grains and farm produce. Not forgetting other aspects of the tithe laws operated then by the Jews like eating it (food) with one's household and friends.
Offerings (any % the giver decides) will be given in that Church but instead of going to the Bishop it goes to the members who have needs directly. Angels don't descend from heaven to carry them to God. Christianity teaches that the assessment of God is that something is given out and the acceptance is measured by the cheerfulness /selflessness of the giver.

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by MrRhymes101(m): 1:53am On Aug 09, 2017
Cost of running the church nko? Maybe it's just a charity organization.

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by oruma19: 2:19am On Aug 09, 2017
this tithe issue is what will finally cripple the kind of christianity we practice in Nigeria. i have always been against it. tithe payment is the reason we have dissidents, disgruntled elements all over the country in the guise of GOs who go about fleecing their mumu members. their is no fear of God in the land again because people now go to church to "sow" whatever kind of "seed" as they are told and in return expect the returns from whatever means including " ritual killings, drug war, 419, olosho.com, any way is a way, and all sorts of vices. no more righteousness, no more holiness, no more true worship, its all about tithes and offerings. i am still awaiting the so called MOG that will take money from me in the name of tithe. please no one should get it twisted, i love God and give to the work of ministry to grow evangelism but i will never fall to the "tithe doctrine". that one has passed with the resurrection of Christ from the dead and therefore we have a new covenant. tithe collectors never had houses, schools, lands, jets, and all sorts of properties. our present day "priests" need to go back to God and repent.( i wonder if they really believe in the heaven they preach)because if they do, why accumulate so much on earth? are u acculating these wealths for the JW to inherit? lolzz. Quoting the scriptures to favor their pocket will do them no good. in the end all will be vanity and vexation of spirit.... i rest my case

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by Jengem: 3:48am On Aug 09, 2017
Great Initiative

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by Pierocash(m): 5:21am On Aug 09, 2017
Kondomatic:
Show me where people paid tithe in the new testament please
Luke 11:42 (New Living Translation), Mathew 23:23
Study the above scriptures from New Living Translation for better understanding.Any man telling u not to tithe is not wishing u well, that is the Devil at work trying to keep u perpetual
under demonic control.
Bro, u better advice yourself now and stop following satanic agents' destructive advice by making up ur mind today to start tithing consistently, and i promise u that 2 yrs frm now, u wil remember today and thank me for bringing the gospel of prosperity ur way,ur life wil be a wonder evn to ur own self

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by Pierocash(m): 5:35am On Aug 09, 2017
Kondomatic:
No non tither can be blessed? Dangote, Buhari, etc paid tithe to you? Be reasonable please
that is how Devil deceive ppl. Bro there are 2 kingdoms that exist. God's Kingdom, and satanic Kingdom. They both operate on spiritual laws, they are guided by principles either scriptural or demonic principles.
On whether Buhari and Dangote pay tithe?I will tell u Yes! U dont knw the Kingdom these guys belong to,occult men pay their tithe to their kingdoms ,infact they pay higher and burdensome tithe because the devil has no mercy,if u violate his own laws u face the wrath instantly.Bt God is merciful, he keeps showing luv to those that are stil violating the scripture, bt there is a limit to mercy.
I advice u today ,to start tithing frm today cos that is whr ur fortune is tied to.Stop using occult men as ur standard of living because they also pay their dues to their kingdom

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by I888(m): 5:49am On Aug 09, 2017
Statsocial:

Abraham tithed before the old testament

*Not all parts of the section Old testament represents the Old covenant of Moses. Prior to the law given by God Abraham and Isaac had paid tithe.

Now to address the post. There I a difference between Alms and Tithe. The Alm is what u gi ve to the poor and tithe what you give to church. Never mix it together. You may not understand the full extent to denying the church funds until it happens. If everyone chooses to give their tithe to the poor the Christian order and power would crash.

I was blessed today by TD jakes message and that only happened because some christian somewhere choose to support his ministry with funds which in turn gave him d opportunity to minister to me here in Nigeria. Those Christians may not know me but I am blessed by their sacrifice.

How many tithes does Bill Gates pay? How many tithes does Mark Zuckerberg pay, Jack Ma, Richard Brandson, Donald Trump, Elon Musk...Oprah Winfrey, Micheal Jackson...?

I know you people like to equate tithing to success.

Same tithes that is paid to God's work is same tithe pastors will deep their hands into to buy expensive items while giving workers peanuts( work of God).

Why aren't these churches building vocational centers for members to acquire skills for free? Why? Why? Why?

Every program organised are designed to get more out of them...

I have no problem with a pastor being rich but there should a LIMIT. Yes, a LIMIT. Oyedepo's wealth is forking too much... damn too much for man whose wealth is in heaven according to the bible. That money is enough to build research and tech hubs.
Stop being sentimental and call a spade a spade.

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by Pierocash(m): 5:49am On Aug 09, 2017
Bro stop been misled by the devil,Bishop Oyedepo himself pays tithe ,paying tithe in church is not same as paying to ur pastor.Men of God are custodians of God's treasures, what they do with it is no man's business.Are u the one that called them?They are answerable to no man but God so stop asking what they do with tithe, that is left for God to question them if they misuse or embezle them.As long as i agree there are business men on the alter who called themselves to that business of collecting peoples money in the name of tithe and offering, but that does not make u discredit the commandment of tithing.If u have not been tithing b4 now, i encourage u to locate a bible believing church and start paying ur tithe frm today and watch how God wil make u a living wonder
Topgainer:

Bishop take it easy, that will not stop this year's Shiloh of CanaanLand. You got followers and a fair share of the Church Market.
Acts 4:32-34; Charity and sharing were the keywords in the early Church. In sane countries Churches are registered as Charity organizations and the financial auditing there is as seen in other such organizations/foundations.

Acts 6:2 The second thing which the Church was known for is sharing words of encouragement from the Bible. A depressed man walks into a church and leaves with both words of encouragement and provisions for his immediate needs. Such immediate needs primarily do not exceed what we call basic needs of food, clothing and shelter. The sharing of the words takes precedence because it is believed that with soul-lifting words some can be inspired to challenge themselves and proffer solutions to their difficult problems.

Today, we have business centers built around a man who says to his sheeples
"bring all the money to me, because I and only I, are authorized to share it to the poor, or rather I will invest it for the poor through building Universities, Estates and Cooperations for the poor, they will be employed there "
"I am your ordained Levite priest, bring the tithe to me because I own no buildings, lands and businesses of my own"
Pastor Edward Olutoke is set to war against the ordained African "Levites" and they will fight to finish to maintain the status quo. They will dig up scriptures to back that the money should be given to the Bishop and the fake Levites who alone know how to share it to the poor.

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by AgentGoat: 5:56am On Aug 09, 2017
Pierocash:
that is how Devil deceive ppl. Bro there are 2 kingdoms that exist. God's Kingdom, and satanic Kingdom. They both operate on spiritual laws, they are guided by principles either scriptural or demonic principles.
On whether Buhari and Dangote pay tithe?I will tell u Yes! U dont knw the Kingdom these guys belong to,occult men pay their tithe to their kingdoms ,infact they pay higher and burdensome tithe because the devil has no mercy,if u violate his own laws u face the wrath instantly.Bt God is merciful, he keeps showing luv to those that are stil violating the scripture, bt there is a limit to mercy.
I advice u today ,to start tithing frm today cos that is whr ur fortune is tied to.Stop using occult men as ur standard of living because they also pay their dues to their kingdom
its devil that bless dangote and buhari?

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by Raintaker(m): 6:42am On Aug 09, 2017
;DThere is a pastor on this thread that is doing his best to protect the business.

Lol Dangote and Buhari are occultic men?
What won't I see on this forum?

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by babythug(f): 7:19am On Aug 09, 2017
While I agree that some churches have abused the concept of tithes and offerings, i still don't get the logic in a church not accepting it. For one where will the finds to run the church come from? Even the goal of this church which is to help the needy where will the funds be sourced from? There is something odd about the whole thing. I suspect members will be pressured to give in other forms and will end up donating more than tithes and offerings

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by juman(m): 7:33am On Aug 09, 2017
MrRhymes101:
Cost of running the church nko? Maybe it's just a charity organization.

It means tithes and offering are too small.
The members will contribute money even through their noses.

The pastor would get bigger money from that.

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by Nobody: 7:40am On Aug 09, 2017
Tithing is a practice that should naturally have NOTHING to do with christianity as a religion. Why did the Jews REALLY practice it in the first place? Answer: Use the tithes to support the PRIESTS(levites) who were in those times,NOT allowed to have any other means of livelihood asides being full-time priests under the laws guiding priesthood (see Leviticus 10:7). Why it was introduced into christianity remains a huge mystery to me. And if you see my moniker and decide to quote me thinking I am muslim attacking christianity,then you are just a ton of simple things. A simpleton. smiley smiley smiley Yeah,some guys guys are that dvmb.

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by WORLDPEACE(m): 7:51am On Aug 09, 2017
babythug:
While I agree that some churches have abused the concept of tithes and offerings, i still don't get the logic in a church not accepting it. For one where will the finds to run the church come from? Even the goal of this church which is to help the needy where will the funds be sourced from? There is something odd about the whole thing. I suspect members will be pressured to give in other forms and will end up donating more than tithes and offerings
Non profit organizations around the world survive on donations. Nobody mandates Bill Gates or Dangote to give a tenth of their earnings to charities. They choose to give whatever amount they like. That is how churches have been surviving all through history. It is the One- man-Business nature of Pentecostal churches that makes them promote paying of tithe.

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Re: Givers Embassy: Abuja Church Where Tithes And Offerings Are Not Allowed by peeps4u: 8:07am On Aug 09, 2017
For those saying tithe is different from alms and tithe is what is given to the church, can you establish this with biblical references?
Tithe was enacted through levitical and aronical laws, these laws and other practices, like sacrifices with animals, were aborted through the coming and death of Jesus Christ.

Go and read Hebrews, probably from chapter 7, if you have no time to read from the beginning.

Tithes, like using rams for sacrifices, were old time practices which have been terminated by Jesus and shouldn't exist in our churches anymore.

As for the claims that God blesses when you pay tithe, it is all frictitious, God blesses today without your tithes, if he doesn't, why are tithers not the richest? why are muslims and atheists who don't pay tithes blessed? God doesn't need your tithes before he blesses you.

Your tithes go to your pastors and not to God, that is why your pastors are mostly the richest in their respective churches; they collect one-tenths form each member while each member manages with the rest nine-tenths. Most Pastors grow richer than members while the members aren't at par with them, not because God blesses the pastors more but because pastors keep getting their one-tenths every month, this is different from special offerings.

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