AbuUthaymeen:
BUKHARI 714 (no salat for who doesnt recite suratul fathia)

AbuUthaymeen:
Abu Dawood (823) ....no salat for who doesnt read suratul ummu kithab.. suratul fathia . . . . .nt

PrinceGallant:
May Allaah guide us. I once asked this question and I replied from what I read in some books that the recitation of imam is for the people behind him, that they do not need to recite but listen to him if the prayer is jahriyyah.

However, I found the following Hadith later, since then I have changed my opinion and I agreed that the ma'moon must recite Fatiha of their own. The Hadith goes thus:

Abu Dawood (823) narrated that ‘Ubaadah ibn as-Saamit (may Allah be pleased with him) said: We were behind the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) in Fajr prayer. The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) recited, and he found it difficult to recite (due to interference). When he finished praying he said: “Perhaps you were reciting behind your imam?” We said: Yes, O Messenger of Allah. He said: “Do not do that, apart from the Opening of the Book (al-Faatihah), because there is no prayer for the one who does not recite it.”

May Allaah increase us in knowledge.

AbuUthaymeen:
Laughing hysterically. . . a kafir who says an hadith is daif. . . s0me0ne wh0 d0esnt belive in hadith says an hadith is daif? laughing . .this got me cracking . . BESIDES IS THAT HOW TO ANNOUNCE AND PRONOUNCE A HADITH DAIF? NO EXPLANATION ON THE ISNAD, NO NARRATOR, NO OTHER HADITH TO PROVE ITS DAIF and yet you say its daif. . your rate of kafir level is ast0nishing. . confirmed jahl.. dats what u are

AbuUthaymeen:
2ND JAHL DON SHOW FACE. . IF U DID UNDERSTAND AND BELIEVE IN HADITH, U WIL KN0W HOW TO SP0T AND PR0VE A HADITH TO BE WEAK. . REFRENCES KO BIBLOGRAPHY NI

Empiree:
You always say nonesense when you are countered.

Reciting sura Fatihah behind imam is not a must. You can't use solitary hadith as proof. There are countless other ahadith that contradict hadith that supports your argument. In that case, Quran evidence sits injudgement over conflicting ahadith. Q7:204

Besides, it is very uncomfortable when some ppl reciting behind imam. Reciting sura fatihah is ONLY a must when you pray alone whether obligatory salat or not or if you lead others. Simple

AbuUthaymeen:
DO IT THE WAY YOU WANT.. U KUKU DO NOT HAVE SALAT TELE. . KEFERI NI E NA.. SUFI LIKE U N0NI WIL BELIEVE.. BESIDES, U PEOPLE DONT EVEN MAKE SALAT TELE NA.. E KIN KIRUN NA. .

Empiree:
I have said it before. Anytime I refute you, retort to name calling. The evidence is presented before you. I didn't make up the hadith. That's sunni ulama hadith. U can tag all sunni kufar over this. Your choice

And I still have more evidences against solitary hadith you used as a proof. I was expecting you to come up with comprehensive dalil but you have failed to do that.

Empiree:
I have said it before. Anytime I refute you, retort to name calling. The evidence is presented before you. I didn't make up the hadith. That's sunni ulama hadith. U can tag all sunni kufar over this. Your choice

And I still have more evidences against solitary hadith you used as a proof. I was expecting you to come up with comprehensive dalil but you have failed to do that.

AbuUthaymeen:
LAUGHING. .U SAID I CALL U NAMES, ARE U NOT A KAFHIR? THE EVIDENCE U PRESENTED ISNT EVIDENCE..1. bring the isnad 2. who am0ng the isnad make the hadith daif. 3. then bring correct hadith. 4. then bring scholars u announce the weakness of the hadith.. #lobatan# . . i don give u assignment. . run along.. dont be long

Empiree:
the attachment I posted above (Daif) is in reference to albaqir's post. Check it well. Olodo

AbuUthaymeen:
THIS IS AMONG THE REASONS YOU ARE AND AL BAQIR ARE KUFAR."TAKLEED" BLIND FOLLOWING OF SCHOLARS. . so because daif is written there, that is why its daif? laughing. . . the reasons its daif must be stated.. o ya, what are the reasons

Empiree:
and the hadith that supports your argument, who made it sahih?. Is it not albani?. That's why you refused to quote it. Instead you posted reference number only. Matter of fact, I see Sheikh albani daif the same hadith

That's what albaqir posted up there. You are dull

AbuUthaymeen:
LAUGING. . I TIRE FOR YOUR MATTER O..OK. .ALBAANIY DAIF THE HADITH...WHAT IS THE PROOF ALBANNY SAID TO HAVE MAKE THE HADITH DAIF. . E. B . WELL, ITS YOUR PRAOBLJEM. . FACE IT. .

Empiree:
your nonesense defeated

AbuUthaymeen:
ANI ON WHAT PROOF DID AL BAANY DAIF THE HADITH O O O. . MU ERI WA OR SHUT UP

PrinceGallant:
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Empiree:
Goan ask him

I did not quote bcus of albany. I quoted bcus it is simply not valid considering other ahadith it is in conflic with. Besides, albany is your scholar now. Why are u running away from him

AbuUthaymeen:
Even people reading or will read this in future will clearly kn0w and see ur dolal. . keferi oshi

Empiree:
it is painful when you have no counterclaim

AbuUthaymeen:
Laughing

Empiree:
I didn't even use my own argument or dalil . I used your own evidence you provided against you. What if I used other evidences - you would have jumped over the moon.

Sir, your path is dolal