GooseBaba:
Baba Plaetton....I salute ohh...where you dey get this your studies from sef? ...even when I parabulate internet finish I still don't run into articles like this...I hail ohh...

plaetton:



I salute.

malvisguy212:
good to see you again. @op. what about people who experience NDE, "Near death experience" ? are they given this same magic mushrooms ?

malvisguy212:
good to see you again. @op. what about people who experience NDE, "Near death experience" ? are they given this same magic mushrooms ?

plaetton:

Greetings Malvisguy212.

The articles is exploring, and I have argued severally that all these experiences are simply brain frequency modulations caused by chemical reactions in the body or brain, especially during or after trauma.

malvisguy212:
almost all the people experiencing NDE, when they narrate it, its the same story, if it is brain frequency as you say, there story should be different, don't you think ?

plaetton:
This thread needs further discussion.

FOLYKAZE:


This is an interesting thread.

But the subject seems narrowed into nde and related stuff. Spiritual experience is broadened and cannot be discussed within just nde. Been a runner of YTS (Yoruba Traditional spirituality), nde is alien to it system. But there are divine dreams, astra travel, divination, and whole lot of experiences.

While dream can be explained scientifically as a chemical reaction in the brain, divine dream is different. Divine dream is not a result of random thinking, it serves a purpose of expressing issues; causes and possible solutions, and often tell about the future.

Many people accurately foretell what happen in future times even without having anything thing to do with it. Happening occur exactly as they dreamed it. It could be gift of nature, but as it is, such instances cannot be explain off with brain chemistry.

Let us discuss extensively on divine dream. How is it brain chemistry?

plaetton:

Divine dreaming is most likely what we know as lucid dreaming.
Lucid dreaming, like other dreams, shows up distinctly in catscans on sleep subjects . And contrary to what you stated, lucid dreaming can more easily be induced and simulated using mind altering herbs and chemicals.
Now, one is free to give interpretations to dreams, and confirm such after the fact.
What I trying to say is that no two persons can give the same interpretation to the same dream. As such, there is no such accurate interpretation of dreams. The sum of a person's psyche determines how a person interprets a dream, lucid or regular.

plaetton:

Divine dreaming is most likely what we know as lucid dreaming.
Lucid dreaming, like other dreams, shows up distinctly in catscans on sleep subjects . And contrary to what you stated, lucid dreaming can more easily be induced and simulated using mind altering herbs and chemicals.
Now, one is free to give interpretations to dreams, and confirm such after the fact.
What I trying to say is that no two persons can give the same interpretation to the same dream. As such, there is no such accurate interpretation of dreams. The sum of a person's psyche determines how a person interprets a dream, lucid or regular.

plaetton:
Excerpt :
"Moses saw a burning bush. Paul saw Jesus on the road to Damascus. St. Teresa had ecstatic visions.

When psychologist William Richards looks at religion, he sees mystical experiences everywhere. The same sort of experiences, he reasons, that come from mind-altering drugs.

That’s why he’s giving magic mushrooms to religious leaders, for a research project based at Johns Hopkins University and New York University.

“There are — it’s so hard to put this into language — sacred eternal experiences that the human being is capable of having. They seem to be at the origin of most religions,” he said. “What we call the eternal seems incredibly real.”

In the Hopkins and NYU study, two dozen clergy — including priests, pastors and rabbis — are taking controlled doses of psilocybin, the drug found in psychedelic mushrooms, under the watchful eye of scientists."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/07/24/at-johns-hopkins-clergy-try-mind-altering-drugs-for-scientific-research/?utm_term=.8f5b39d9b0db