"How do you preach to someone who is deeply involved in occultism and sorcery? Help please." Axel A. Mendoza

First, you make sure that your theology is biblical—that you know that salvation is of the Lord, that no one can come to the Son unless the Father draws him, and that the Bible says that "none seek after God" (Romans 3:11).

So my advice is to preach the same gospel (using the Law to bring the knowledge of sin) that you preach to everyone else. People who are into the demonic realm (and who isn't nowadays?) don't need "better" or more powerful gospel.

I'm sure you know that, and perhaps your concern is that it may be more difficult for these people to come to Christ. Then think of what happened to the man who was possessed by "Legion." Even a multitude of demons couldn't stop him from coming to the Saviour, falling at His feet, and worshipping Him: "When he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and worshiped Him" (Mark 5:6).

So take the moral Law and apply it to the conscience, then preach the gospel, and leave the rest up to God. He is faithful, and with Him nothing is impossible.

chalantmike:


recently I ran into a Christian, who had occultic knowledge, minimal occultic knowledge especially from a Christians perspective, let's just say his not a sleeping Christian buh his awaken.

he asked me a question relating to the occult, at first, I was just going ignore the question, because by law an occultists are not permitted to share knowledge with uninitiated,

Mathew 7:6
“Don’t give that which is holy to the dogs, neither throw
your pearls before the pigs, lest perhaps they trample
them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

buh then a voice said indulge him, at first I argued then the voice still said the same thing, so decided to indulge him.

when it comes to debate I like to floor Christians especially the clueless ones, the fanatics, and the sheep Christians.

the clueless ones: are those that just call themselves Christians

the fanatics : are those Aimee with knowledge of the bible, well brainwashed buh little to no spirituality, spirituality is like the soul of Christianity, without that one is like a robot, a Christian robot.

then the sheep : this ones pick the part of the bible that favours them, the brand of heavy hypocrites.

I like this three set of Christians because they put up the most resistance, so its easy to break them down. its more easy to break down a wall then to fight the air or water.

buh this particular Christian was different, he was open minded, less resistance so there was nothing to break down or attack, it turned out to be one of those pleasing intellectual conversation, I kept asking myself

" isn't this niggas supposed to convert me or something "

I spent a week asking myself who this person was, why did the universe send him etc, till I found my answers.

my point is he was difficult to tackle or hold down, cause there was open-minded, and spiritually awaken. I ended up doing all the talking.

I left that conversation being impressed to an extend he changed my perception of Christians.

if yhu want to beat an occultist at his game, yhu have to be able to play on the same playing field, the only way to do that is to know what he knows,because I can assure yhu an occultist knows what yhu know. so if yhuve not worn his shoes it will be very difficult to tackle one.

because everything given to yhu as a Christian and occultist is entitled to all of them,name it fruit if the spirit etc, an occultist is entitled to all of the except one.

Salvation, and occultist by the definition of what salvation is in the bible / biblical context is not entitled to salvation.

because Salvation, eternity means a different thing to an occultist, the difference is in the realm of perception and knowledge.

of all religion in the world, Christianity is the only one that offers Assurance Of Salvation.

but truth be told, that is one of the illusion that an occultist has to transcend.

forgive any errors.

malvisguy212:


we turn to the ministry of Paul and learn how he evangelize to the heathen. here in Corinthians:

1 Corinthians 9:19: “ For though I am free from all men, I HAVE MADE MYSELF A SERVANT TO ALL, THAT I MIGHT WIN MORE; 20 and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the law; 21 to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law; 22 to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. 23 Now this I do for the gospel's sake, that I may be partaker of it with you.”


first, he adapted his teaching to their thought and their culture to reach out to them. secondly, he divided the world into the religious, Jews ( with the law) and Gentile ( without the law).he knew how to speak to them because of his former beliefs and life with them (Galatians 4:21). He knew how to put the gospel to them without compromise and without offence. Paul simply meant that he would use their own beliefs and ways to show them the truth. So to a religious Jew he would use the law to speak to them, to a gentile he would use his conscience and culture.

I'm sure you know that, and perhaps your concern is that it may be more difficult for these people to come to Christ. Then think of what happened to the man who was possessed by "Legion." Even a multitude of demons couldn't stop him from coming to the Saviour, falling at His feet, and worshipping Him: "When he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and worshiped Him" (Mark 5:6).

uvalued:


on the legion stuff.. did Jesus use the law to cause the possesed man to submit to Him?

OLAADEGBU:


I remember asking you whether you still use the knowledge you acquired in your elementary school or have you discarded them? You are yet to give me a definite answer.

OLAADEGBU:



Source: https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort 7 September 2014 ·
www.livingwaters.com

chalantmike:
yhu don't, the average occultist can make yhur religious knowledge look very stupid, because they've transcended that realm of knowledge. an occultist, at least a real occultist is a scientist of nature, what that means is he works with knowledge of how the universe is, that include religion, depending on their upbringing, an occultist has very very very God theological knowledge of the bible or the Koran,in most cases both, he knows the Bible to the very skeleton, cause an occultist works with the bible,many occultic ritual were dug out n manufactured from the bible, that is why the real name of Christianity is neopagan religion, it means new age pagan religion.

PAGAN9JA:
I am a person deeply involved in the occult and sorcery. And I have a simple question which is as follows:



If jesus died for our sins, ..then why is he coming back again?

to prepare suya?

he should just die and go to hell.

and why did he even die in the first place? they say he died to cleanse us of our sins. so is that another way of saying... christians, now you are free of sin. Go ahead. rape, pillage and plunder to your hearts content.



Clearly our ancestors were deceived. We must return to the GODS!

PAGAN9JA:
I am a person deeply involved in the occult and sorcery. And I have a simple question which is as follows:



If jesus died for our sins, ..then why is he coming back again?

to prepare suya?

he should just die and go to hell.

and why did he even die in the first place? they say he died to cleanse us of our sins. so is that another way of saying... christians, now you are free of sin. Go ahead. rape, pillage and plunder to your hearts content.



Clearly our ancestors were deceived. We must return to the GODS!

praiseneofingz:
me: bro I want u to accept Jesus as ur lord and saviour

sinner: bros u dey mad? u wan die? thunder faya u der.

Me: bro Jesus loves you repent before it's too late....stop your occultism it might lead you to destruction.

sinner: I swear before I can't 5 if u no commot for my front now, I go design your body.

me: ( bring out gun/knife) oya lie down face ground and confess to Jesus... thunder faya u there